From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:20:53 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#3619 <3619@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#3619 <3619@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore Reply-To: bug#3619 <3619@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:20:53 +0000 retitle 3619 Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore reassign 3619 emacs submitter 3619 "w.goesgens" severity 3619 normal tag 3619 notabug wontfix thanks From w.goesgens@outgesourced.org Fri Jun 19 07:20:32 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Jun 2009 14:20:32 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5JEKLX3012957 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:20:23 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MHex3-0008MX-66 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:20:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MHewy-0008LV-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:20:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60696 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MHewy-0008LN-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:20:16 -0400 Received: from mail.outgesourced.org ([85.88.5.80]:39349) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MHewx-00080G-RZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:20:16 -0400 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:20:08 +0200 Subject: Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore Message-ID: <0000134495@mail.outgesourced.org> From: "w.goesgens" Received: from outgesourced.org (R1-O3SIS.o3sis.com [62.153.93.226]) by mail.outgesourced.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:20:08 +0200 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) till emacs V21 one could use C-x r t to flush a rectangle, since there was no sugestion of the last parameters to this action. sinve emacs V22 theres String rectangle (default foobar): Now one can override foobar by a new text, but theres no way to get it do the same as C-x r k does, which is actualy convenient because one doesn't have to remember two commands. In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-11-09 on raven, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--build=i486-linux-gnu' '--host=i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs22:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.2/leim' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: SQL[ansi] Minor modes in effect: delete-selection-mode: t pc-selection-mode: t which-function-mode: t tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x C-s C-x C-s C-SPC C-x r t C-x C-SPC C-x r t C-x r k M-x b u g r e p o r Recent messages: Wrote /home/willi/wdev_update.txt [2 times] Mark set [3 times] Wrote /home/willi/wdev_update.txt [2 times] line-move-1: Beginning of buffer [3 times] Mark set Quit Mark activated Quit Making completion list... [2 times] Loading emacsbug...done From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Fri Jun 26 18:18:31 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Jun 2009 01:18:32 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5R1ISbd012588 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:18:29 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MKMYl-0006pT-Oy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:18:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MKMYi-0006oo-0z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:18:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54713 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MKMYh-0006of-3k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:18:23 -0400 Received: from smtp-02.vtx.ch ([212.147.0.114]:39742) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MKMYg-0001bD-Ik for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:18:22 -0400 Received: from alfajor.home (dyn.83-228-218-202.dsl.vtx.ch [83.228.218.202]) by smtp-02.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id D1B6E5FD50; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9251A64343; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:18:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "w.goesgens" Cc: 3619@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3619: Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore Message-ID: References: <0000134495@mail.outgesourced.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:18:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <0000134495@mail.outgesourced.org> (w. goesgens's message of "Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:20:08 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) > sinve emacs V22 theres > String rectangle (default foobar): > Now one can override foobar by a new text, but theres no way to get it > do the same as C-x r k does, which is actualy convenient because one > doesn't have to remember two commands. Actually, C-x r d is the equivalent (since C-x r k additionally stores the killed text on the kill ring). And yes, this was a known tradeoff when introducing the new behavior in Emacs-22. Stefan From rgm@gnu.org Sun Jun 28 10:56:20 2009 Received: (at 3619) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Jun 2009 17:56:20 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5SHuG00014140 for <3619@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:56:17 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MKybu-0008Vu-CC; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:56:14 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 3619@debbugs.gnu.org, "w.goesgens" Subject: Re: bug#3619: Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore References: <0000134495@mail.outgesourced.org> X-Spook: Arnett Forte Agfa SSL spy Kosovo radar Watergate X-Ran: "5G,+{UuRv$Cb^5Q^-OoHwWkWa5f2^h]vM$!+JflyxT((.u8U4$&-pf3.olI]dBAbRhs(i X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:56:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:18:21 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stefan Monnier wrote: > Actually, C-x r d is the equivalent (since C-x r k additionally stores > the killed text on the kill ring). And yes, this was a known tradeoff > when introducing the new behavior in Emacs-22. I looked briefly at this, and found it surprising that `read-string' offers no way to reject the default value in favour of an empty string. `read-from-minibuffer', on the other hand, does. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Sun Jun 28 13:09:59 2009 Received: (at 3619) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Jun 2009 20:09:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from smtp-04.vtx.ch (smtp-04.vtx.ch [212.147.0.65]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5SK9s8S004003 for <3619@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:09:56 -0700 Received: from alfajor.home (dyn.144-85-222-231.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.222.231]) by smtp-04.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id D1FC129AE55; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:09:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A02666433F; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:09:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Cc: 3619@debbugs.gnu.org, "w.goesgens" Subject: Re: bug#3619: Replace Rectangle can't do empty after first replace anymore Message-ID: References: <0000134495@mail.outgesourced.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:09:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:56:14 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Actually, C-x r d is the equivalent (since C-x r k additionally stores >> the killed text on the kill ring). And yes, this was a known tradeoff >> when introducing the new behavior in Emacs-22. > I looked briefly at this, and found it surprising that `read-string' > offers no way to reject the default value in favour of an empty > string. `read-from-minibuffer', on the other hand, does. I don't know what you're referring to: in which way does read-from-minibuffer let you distinguish between "the user wanted the empty string" and "the user wanted the default value"? Stefan From cyd@stupidchicken.com Fri Oct 23 09:11:57 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Oct 2009 16:11:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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And yes, this was a known tradeoff > when introducing the new behavior in Emacs-22. So this is a feature, not a bug, so I'm closing the report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:20:53 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator