GNU bug report logs - #36083
26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message "<noname> is undefined"

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Rick McCarty <rjmccarty <at> live.com>

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:24:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 26.2

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: Rick McCarty <rjmccarty <at> live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: "36083 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <36083 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message "<noname> is
 undefined"
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 05:28:35 +0000
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Hi Eli,

Thanks! You were correct. I found I also had to disable the modifier key combinations as well, so I did:

    (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore)
    (define-key global-map [C-noname] 'ignore)
    (define-key global-map [M-noname] 'ignore)

Your input that I should have reported this earlier is well taken - then perhaps Emacs could have been updated long ago to simply ignore these nonname pseudo keys by default or a workaround documented.

Again, thanks for reaching back out to me on this!

Best regards,

Rick

Rick McCarty
rjmccarty <at> live.com
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:13 AM
To: Rick McCarty
Cc: 36083 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message "<noname> is undefined"

> From: Rick McCarty <rjmccarty <at> live.com>
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000
>
> In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs, and the message "<noname> is
> undefined" is printed. It only happens when focus is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely
> unusable.

This is produced if Emacs receives the 'noname' (VK_NONAME) pseudo-key
key-press event from Windows.  It sounds like DishAnywhere and
SlingPlayer are sending these pseudo-keys to make sure the system
doesn't go to sleep when these applications are active.

Does typing the below inside Emacs make the problem go away?

  M-: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) RET

> This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and another Windows 10 system. I've never
> been able to figure out what is going on - instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that.

If you see this since Vista, it would mean you are aware of the
problem for at least 10 years, maybe longer.  I can only say it's a
pity you didn't report this earlier.  Please in the future try to
report problems with smaller delays, thanks in advance.
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