In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Ema= cs, and the message "<noname> is undefined" is printed. It = only happens when focus is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely= unusable.

This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and a= nother Windows 10 system. I've never been able to figure out what is going = on - instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that.

However, I just built a new system and figured I'd give it another try= - the problem is still there. The only other reference to this problem tha= t I could find is at:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47069309/on-launch-emacs-makes-di= ng-sound-and-displays-noname-is-undefined-message

That posting seems to associate this issue with DishAnywhere.

Well, I'm not using DishAnywhere, but I am using the SlingPlayer app, = which is an ancestor of the DishAnywhere app. It just so happens that I had= SlingPlayer running at the time I brought Emacs up (I run SlingPlayer pretty much all the time on my system.). When = it is running, and I have focus on the Emacs window, the problem occurs.&nb= sp;

As far as I can tell, I see no problems when running SlingPlayer with = any other applications, including XEmacs. Only Gnu Emacs. There appears to = be some resource that both are using which causes this. I was thinking - is= it possible this has something to do with the emacs server/client stuff? If so, is there a potential work= around I could try? I really don't know how to chase this down more...

Thanks for taking a look at this.

Best regards,

Rick McCarty

rjmccarty@live.com

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--_000_SN6PR05MB47849681806BAF8EAC779886C8140SN6PR05MB4784namp_-- From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:14:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Rick McCarty Cc: 36083@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 36083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36083.15596576554533 (code B ref 36083); Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 36083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2019 14:14:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACc-0001B3-MT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACa-0001Am-5D for 36083@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACU-0001zA-TU; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:06 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1546 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hYACT-0007l3-Qf; Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:14:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2019 17:13:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83d0jttp3u.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Rick McCarty on Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rick McCarty > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000 > > In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs, and the message " is > undefined" is printed. It only happens when focus is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely > unusable. This is produced if Emacs receives the 'noname' (VK_NONAME) pseudo-key key-press event from Windows. It sounds like DishAnywhere and SlingPlayer are sending these pseudo-keys to make sure the system doesn't go to sleep when these applications are active. Does typing the below inside Emacs make the problem go away? M-: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) RET > This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and another Windows 10 system. I've never > been able to figure out what is going on - instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that. If you see this since Vista, it would mean you are aware of the problem for at least 10 years, maybe longer. I can only say it's a pity you didn't report this earlier. Please in the future try to report problems with smaller delays, thanks in advance. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Eli, Thanks! You were correct. I found I also had to disable the modifier key combinations as well, so I did: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) (define-key global-map [C-noname] 'ignore) (define-key global-map [M-noname] 'ignore) Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: live.com] 0.6 HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM Envelope sender username looks random 1.0 HK_RANDOM_FROM From username looks random -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [40.92.7.73 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rjmccarty[at]live.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) --_000_SN6PR05MB4784DAE9BBF94855459261F9C8170SN6PR05MB4784namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eli, Thanks! You were correct. I found I also had to disable the modifier key co= mbinations as well, so I did: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) (define-key global-map [C-noname] 'ignore) (define-key global-map [M-noname] 'ignore) Your input that I should have reported this earlier is well taken - then pe= rhaps Emacs could have been updated long ago to simply ignore these nonname= pseudo keys by default or a workaround documented. Again, thanks for reaching back out to me on this! Best regards, Rick Rick McCarty rjmccarty@live.com ________________________________ From: Eli Zaretskii Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:13 AM To: Rick McCarty Cc: 36083@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " = is undefined" > From: Rick McCarty > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000 > > In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs,= and the message " is > undefined" is printed. It only happens when focus is on the Emacs window.= This makes Emacs completely > unusable. This is produced if Emacs receives the 'noname' (VK_NONAME) pseudo-key key-press event from Windows. It sounds like DishAnywhere and SlingPlayer are sending these pseudo-keys to make sure the system doesn't go to sleep when these applications are active. Does typing the below inside Emacs make the problem go away? M-: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) RET > This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and anot= her Windows 10 system. I've never > been able to figure out what is going on - instead I've just installed XE= macs and used that. If you see this since Vista, it would mean you are aware of the problem for at least 10 years, maybe longer. I can only say it's a pity you didn't report this earlier. Please in the future try to report problems with smaller delays, thanks in advance. --_000_SN6PR05MB4784DAE9BBF94855459261F9C8170SN6PR05MB4784namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Eli,

Thanks! You were correct. I found I also had to disable the modifier key co= mbinations as well, so I did:

(define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore)

(define-key global-map [= C-noname] 'ignore)

(define-key global-map [= M-noname] 'ignore)

Your input that I sho= uld have reported this earlier is well taken - then perhaps Emacs could hav= e been updated long ago to simply ignore these nonname pseudo keys by defau= lt or a workaround documented.

Again, thanks for reaching back out to me on this!<= /span>

Best regards,<= /div>

Rick

Rick McCarty

rjmccarty@live.com

From: Eli Zaretskii <eli= z@gnu.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:13 AM
To: Rick McCarty
Cc: 36083@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message &qu= ot;<noname> is undefined"

> From: Rick McCarty <rjmccarty@live.com>=
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000
>
> In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Ema= cs, and the message "<noname> is
> undefined" is printed. It only happens when focus is on the Emacs= window. This makes Emacs completely
> unusable.

This is produced if Emacs receives the 'noname' (VK_NONAME) pseudo-key
key-press event from Windows. It sounds like DishAnywhere and
SlingPlayer are sending these pseudo-keys to make sure the system
doesn't go to sleep when these applications are active.

Does typing the below inside Emacs make the problem go away?

M-: (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) RET

> This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and a= nother Windows 10 system. I've never
> been able to figure out what is going on - instead I've just installed= XEmacs and used that.

If you see this since Vista, it would mean you are aware of the
problem for at least 10 years, maybe longer. I can only say it's a pity you didn't report this earlier. Please in the future try to
report problems with smaller delays, thanks in advance.

--_000_SN6PR05MB4784DAE9BBF94855459261F9C8170SN6PR05MB4784namp_-- From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:14:58 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Rick McCarty Subject: bug#36083: closed (Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined") Message-ID: References: <835zpisuwf.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 36083 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 36083@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 13:32:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1559827923-2019-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1559827923-2019-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 36083@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 36083: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D36083 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1559827923-2019-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 36083-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2019 13:31:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYsU9-0000Vb-Ij for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:31:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hYsU8-0000VP-7l for 36083-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:31:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYsU2-0007Do-QU; Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:31:10 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1785 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hYsTz-0005rG-TO; Thu, 06 Jun 2019 09:31:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 16:30:56 +0300 Message-Id: <835zpisuwf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rick McCarty In-reply-to: (message from Rick McCarty on Thu, 6 Jun 2019 05:28:35 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#36083: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" References: , <83d0jttp3u.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 36083-done Cc: 36083-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rick McCarty > CC: "36083@debbugs.gnu.org" <36083@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 05:28:35 +0000 > Thanks! You were correct. I found I also had to disable the modifier key combinations as well, so I did: > > (define-key global-map [noname] 'ignore) > (define-key global-map [C-noname] 'ignore) > (define-key global-map [M-noname] 'ignore) Thanks, I added these bindings to Emacs, and this problem will be solved starting from the next release 26.3 of Emacs. > Your input that I should have reported this earlier is well taken - then perhaps Emacs could have been updated > long ago to simply ignore these nonname pseudo keys by default or a workaround documented. Indeed. Well, better late than never. 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Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000 From: Rick McCarty To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Subject: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" Thread-Topic: 26.2; Bell every 10 seconds with message " is undefined" Thread-Index: AQHVGmYC/4bI5USmyU+83DlBE0GjOw== Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:18:28 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:473CA82CFC426D38D24E540764268EAF4CC4B3C52E72BA65D9F53249BB32CF8E; UpperCasedChecksum:AD661120B426AB44B816A9EB8F63E36978C63B9A0E45988B515917AA28349DB0; SizeAsReceived:6562; Count:40 x-tmn: [6QrDXA+F+RaZ0p1EMlpzvDhKaYVkpnDj] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-incomingheadercount: 40 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(2390118)(5050001)(7020095)(20181119110)(201702061078)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031323274)(2017031324274)(2017031322404)(1601125500)(1603101475)(1701031045); SRVR:BN3NAM04HT073; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BN3NAM04HT073: x-ms-exchange-purlcount: 1 x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: Gi1qXtGAjy5yzn2CitujmJ2T+OXdJPu7E0uRzaPB61uEbsMZrzPX3A9A7tI1CPWnuUrl5sAq5setXW2L0Sy/tAI/JTHOEjf72fc8g5JBcSZFLUXt9zUEUA6Gb/02cqzN2tAQCIJf+dTGOQHbrDFheboqxIc6Ptd2QAIeYwWsZiNNHmY2P1dG1dX2+fiu7tnB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a new install of Windows 10, every 10 seconds the bell rings in Emacs, a= nd the message " is undefined" is printed. It only happens when foc= us is on the Emacs window. This makes Emacs completely unusable. This is not a new thing - I have seen it before on Vista, Win 7, and anothe= r Windows 10 system. I've never been able to figure out what is going on - = instead I've just installed XEmacs and used that. However, I just built a new system and figured I'd give it another try - th= e problem is still there. The only other reference to this problem that I c= ould find is at: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47069309/on-launch-emacs-makes-ding-sou= nd-and-displays-noname-is-undefined-message That posting seems to associate this issue with DishAnywhere. Well, I'm not using DishAnywhere, but I am using the SlingPlayer app, which= is an ancestor of the DishAnywhere app. It just so happens that I had Slin= gPlayer running at the time I brought Emacs up (I run SlingPlayer pretty mu= ch all the time on my system.). When it is running, and I have focus on the= Emacs window, the problem occurs. As far as I can tell, I see no problems when running SlingPlayer with any o= ther applications, including XEmacs. Only Gnu Emacs. There appears to be so= me resource that both are using which causes this. I was thinking - is it p= ossible this has something to do with the emacs server/client stuff? If so,= is there a potential workaround I could try? I really don't know how to ch= ase this down more... Thanks for taking a look at this. Best regards, Rick McCarty rjmccarty@live.com In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 built on CIRROCUMULUS Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. is undefined [20 times] Configured using: 'configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS THREADS LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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