GNU bug report logs - #35887
26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying

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Message #50 received at 35887 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, 35887 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 npostavs <at> gmail.com, Bob Proulx <bob <at> proulx.com>
Subject: Re: bug#35887: 26.1;
 global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 00:06:22 +0300

>> Would you consider an application like Firefox operational if
>> you launch it for the first time in your live, spin your mouse-wheel
>> to find out whether there's something below the part you see on your
>> screen and get a bell ringing and the information that you are at the
>> end of a thing called "buffer"?  Or that after selecting some text
>> with the mouse you just have "Mark set"?
>
> It almost feels like the general approach for a long time has been to
> compensate the general "clunkiness" (or at least peculiarity) of some UI
> corners with extra verbosity.
>
> It's like the program is saying "it's okay if we're doing unusual things,
> but we'll tell you everything we're doing along the way".
>
> I don't find it jarring myself, but we could probably do better.

Sometimes such verbosity is justified.  For example, when on exiting
Isearch displays a reminder "Mark saved where search started".

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