From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 3582@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:35:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 3582 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124509075018482 (code B ref -1); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:35:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jun 2009 18:32:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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You cannot do `M-x text-scale-mode' in virgin session. In GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-05-24 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 3582@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:15:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3582 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 3582-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3582.124510008014016 (code B ref 3582); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:15:04 +0000 Received: (at 3582) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jun 2009 21:08:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from smtp-02.vtx.ch (smtp-02.vtx.ch [212.147.0.114]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5FL7t25014010 for <3582@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:07:57 -0700 Received: from alfajor.home (dyn.144-85-131-252.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.131.252]) by smtp-02.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id BAB765FDF7; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:07:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6C23B64339; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Drew Adams Cc: 3582@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: References: <2D37EA85CBAE47BC8524350F146FD29E@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:07:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2D37EA85CBAE47BC8524350F146FD29E@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:32:22 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Subject line says it all. You cannot do `M-x text-scale-mode' in > virgin session. I can't think of any reason why you'd want to do that, so I presume you bumped into this problem while doing something slightly different. Could you explain what you were trying to do, so we can put a better comment explaining the reason for the autoload cookie? Stefan From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 3582@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:40:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3582 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 3582-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3582.124510161017981 (code B ref 3582); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:40:06 +0000 Received: (at 3582) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jun 2009 21:33:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from rgminet12.oracle.com (rcsinet12.oracle.com [148.87.113.124]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5FLXO5j017972 for <3582@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:33:26 -0700 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5FLX3H7023553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:33:05 GMT Received: from abhmt007.oracle.com (abhmt007.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n5FLYX0Q012703; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:34:33 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:33:16 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: <3582@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <2D37EA85CBAE47BC8524350F146FD29E@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acnt/WfBbVOlU62+QMavSvGJCA2ygAAAQadA X-Source-IP: abhmt007.oracle.com [141.146.116.16] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4A36BE1D.008F:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 > > You cannot do `M-x text-scale-mode' in virgin session. > > I can't think of any reason why you'd want to do that, so I > presume you > bumped into this problem while doing something slightly different. > Could you explain what you were trying to do, so we can put a better > comment explaining the reason for the autoload cookie? No special reason. Just testing some other code. Wanted to check the mode var (used by that code), which was undefined, so I tried to turn on the mode (without changing text-scale-mode-amount). Yes, I could have done that in other ways, but why not let someone turn on the mode using `M-x'? No, it's not a _need_ - users will typically use `text-scale-adjust' or `text-scale-(in|de)crease' to turn on/off the mode. It's OK with me if you decide not to do this. (I don't have a feeling for the cost of an extra autoload.) From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:47 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: "Drew Adams" Subject: bug#3582 closed by Stefan Monnier (Re: bug#3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode) Message-ID: References: <2D37EA85CBAE47BC8524350F146FD29E@us.oracle.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 3582 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 3582@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:20:11 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1245187211-9676-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1245187211-9676-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode It has been closed by Stefan Monnier . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Stefan Monnier by replying to this email. --=20 3582: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D3582 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1245187211-9676-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 3582-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Jun 2009 21:12:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from smtp-01.vtx.ch (smtp-01.vtx.ch [212.147.0.84]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5GLCVWo008517 for <3582-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:12:32 -0700 Received: from alfajor.home (dyn.83-228-202-237.dsl.vtx.ch [83.228.202.237]) by smtp-01.vtx.ch (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id 3A6592807D; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:12:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 026B26433A; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:12:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Cc: <3582-done@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#3582: 23.0.94; Please autoload command text-scale-mode Message-ID: References: <2D37EA85CBAE47BC8524350F146FD29E@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:12:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:33:25 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > No special reason. Just testing some other code. Wanted to check the mode var > (used by that code), which was undefined, so I tried to turn on the mode > (without changing text-scale-mode-amount). > Yes, I could have done that in other ways, but why not let someone > turn on the mode using `M-x'? No, it's not a _need_ - users will > typically use `text-scale-adjust' or `text-scale-(in|de)crease' to > turn on/off the mode. I see, then I think I'd rather leave it non-autoloaded for now: it's just an internal major mode, really. Stefan ------------=_1245187211-9676-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jun 2009 18:32:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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You cannot do `M-x text-scale-mode' in virgin session. In GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-05-24 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' ------------=_1245187211-9676-1--