From unknown Fri Sep 12 06:30:26 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#35793 <35793@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#35793 <35793@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual Reply-To: bug#35793 <35793@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:30:26 +0000 retitle 35793 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual reassign 35793 emacs submitter 35793 Mauro Aranda severity 35793 minor tag 35793 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 18 16:57:31 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2019 20:57:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33059 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OZ-0000Tq-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OY-0000TZ-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:30 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OT-0006Nk-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OS-0007IP-7f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:25 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OR-0006Mw-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:24 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::235]:45368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hS6OR-0006M5-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:57:23 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-x235.google.com with SMTP id r76so9115745lja.12 for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c/NCWxJKD3oh9a2t84sPa/MEtSjXthgh9SNFjGzu55M=; b=IOy7M5Ko0xotZtPEyq2stwPivNMZEfRdPqOLt+J2S0eKwBNBxNhOWZX+ifgKc8QFAG vCOXfJs+kh+bMe3lW9lv6YYku0u16IFvK/CXAFISO00mlSMJ9UkBYGy1/ZZxThySYNlz wN0ESM8OCIkMWaAZICtkV6cJyD3rcVDIs2nKLp2IoMc7MooE5hO6Xc9BB8PR6h5rlAdJ 89xV32H7L88jhB1Fq14l8BrvJYg0KFv56WzAEYIj6zTLwxWeoHIrTa7eFq93knzQHuOr otsipDkSePZKaQSbYRRMDBWb9q/IZ+Ys+LnLC6hA7FUvG4/oWsM2WYJ4OKVW+3W6B10e ckuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c/NCWxJKD3oh9a2t84sPa/MEtSjXthgh9SNFjGzu55M=; b=loX2Bmn24HBkbX/NLxVqROn6bYWQ8lyH772aMhqN1XnDlIsETBGK5oiDOdggjmHkrl E/YZ441+YnGCfY8WYf0NWPDSLInM+Ks6UiMvgMR4o05ok2uSmuRWYWvpCvHc9EBm9Kpy 3uP3vQg9asXH/pgQDzGfN/LKeatZf+51QLPLZDEUMRi+iDvZz0X60v/u3hOuKARiRQSz viZFn3oPkMehLmzW4WyzfJ2m0qHkF/fAlD4oDjt8r5fVlrooV+gIkiCPvL7L17+gLIfm LdEdAh3x3zdIrVdjnTyosC0Rm3L5I+gLxe6tONnArb4N07BCajoSPRW9POLSwVc77+aD W1/w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVg2aI6aJrY4GJB9Vi222c/DIFoqHhhYY2P2fjlVUrfVmi0dIgy U/1zhSdzQFcCP3B9DBJFgzklSLOKeQN5B24cXDzWmdoi X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwY7vRLMPi3AsMaNTk9y0dHlBnaW6thfhyJUEo1jyBU8em5IXY2t3Fk8WxKu9QDwYyEWUEEMSCNgsyX7BOmxmE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8347:: with SMTP id l7mr10775148ljh.17.1558213040748; Sat, 18 May 2019 13:57:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:57:08 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual To: bug-gnu-emacs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c73dfc05892fbeb5" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::235 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --000000000000c73dfc05892fbeb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello. In the HTML format of the GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, navigate to the node Skipping Characters, under the node Motion. There, look for the cross references to Regular Expressions and to Char Classes, and note the redundant "See". Patch to come, once assigned a bug number. Best regards, Mauro. --000000000000c73dfc05892fbeb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello.

In the HTML format of the GNU Emacs Lisp Ref= erence Manual, navigate to
the node Skipping Characters, under the node = Motion.=C2=A0 There, look for
the cross references to Regular Expression= s and to Char Classes, and
note the redundant "See".

Pa= tch to come, once assigned a bug number.

Best regards,
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Patch attached.
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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x11sm4652229ioj.49.2019.05.19.05.14.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 19 May 2019 05:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual References: Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 08:14:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 18 May 2019 17:57:08 -0300") Message-ID: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > In the HTML format of the GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, navigate to > the node Skipping Characters, under the node Motion. There, look for > the cross references to Regular Expressions and to Char Classes, and > note the redundant "See". Hmm, the HTML output has a redundant "See", but the .info doesn't. But I see the texinfo manual examples don't put "see" in front of @xref, so I guess it's just coincidence that it produces okay results for .info. > * doc/lispref/positions.texi (Skipping Characters): Remove redundant > "See" before cross references. Change @xref to @pxref, which is > more suitable when at the end of a sentence. (Bug#35793) M-x rgrep RET [Ss]ee @.\?xref RET *.texi RET doc/ RET finds a few more hits in other manuals, could you fix those too please? ./lispref/positions.texi:843:the first letter. See @xref{Regular Expressions}. Character classes ./lispref/positions.texi:844:can also be used, e.g., @code{"[:alnum:]"}. See @pxref{Char Classes}. ./lispref/modes.texi:3017:For details, see @xref{Multiline Font Lock}. ./lispref/control.texi:1454:iterators. See @xref{Loop Facility,,,cl,Common Lisp Extensions}. ./lispref/functions.texi:2377:explicitly risky (see @pxref{File Local Variables}). ./misc/dired-x.texi:899:done. See @xref{Optional Installation File At Point}. ./misc/dired-x.texi:907:@code{find-file-other-window}. See @xref{Optional Installation File At Point}. ./misc/gnus-faq.texi:710:POP3 mail source. See @pxref{Mail Source Specifiers} for VALUE. ./misc/gnus.texi:3097:See @pxref{Sieve Commands} for commands and variables that might be of ./misc/gnus.texi:3115:See @pxref{Group Mail Splitting} to automatically split on group ./misc/gnus.texi:12859:the corresponding parenthetical matches (see @xref{Replacing Match,, ./misc/gnus.texi:24245:events. See @xref{Extending the Spam package}. ./misc/eudc.texi:609:This variable has protocol-local definitions (see @pxref{Server/Protocol ./misc/eudc.texi:717:or server local fashion (see @pxref{Server/Protocol Locals}). ./misc/dbus.texi:1931:Incoming D-Bus messages are handled as Emacs events, see @pxref{Misc ./misc/dbus.texi:1955:this message (see @pxref{Signals}). When a @code{dbus-event} event ./misc/org.texi:10293:export}) or transcode the math into images (see @pxref{Previewing @LaTeX{} ./misc/org.texi:10359:used for inclusion while exporting to HTML (see @pxref{@LaTeX{} fragments}), ./misc/reftex.texi:3700:menu. See @xref{Key Bindings}. ./misc/cc-mode.texi:1063:where Emacs does auto-filling (see @pxref{Custom Filling and ./misc/cc-mode.texi:1481:inserted (see @pxref{Custom Auto-newlines}). Typically, the style ./misc/cc-mode.texi:6856:see @xref{Macros with ;}. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 19 09:49:44 2019 Received: (at 35793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2019 13:49:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSMC7-0004n8-6a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:49:43 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com ([209.85.208.177]:38256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSMC4-0004mu-ET for 35793@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 09:49:41 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 14so10079876ljj.5 for <35793@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 19 May 2019 06:49:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aFD6ElTDCSTiGtG2mas3ZdW1aCUS5YBEnv6ZLZtUtj4=; b=t+mNjcEWHpjzV6HryyDKFSPJraNu3k8k0PXS4d2iVA8YtcLyQxXSRzIywuJG7MN2x5 YSRhqi5BEYGdu5fiZbS0KD7hdwBsE3duZIatZMXBbxlLAevd4tWjf6OI37B/nk2onL1W WCRxI6/40UyZGkrsKwo+fR1zEYc2uYbUOK3M5xxV0IMb1ka1m3eOn5qF7lgDv04AkOvy Xcu2FnWHOG9TCa9FeIfYboPlEo7sO8KaFaHXQcHiAFgsQpzlliZzNlJiympHyZsq11pz k72YlQnbh1sncveAEYOElsNwCocojaMS3J9F15gY/levGrhnHPKh89MWGpDofneBfyey YgcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aFD6ElTDCSTiGtG2mas3ZdW1aCUS5YBEnv6ZLZtUtj4=; b=ntmlDe228XKab2Z0Ip8DlYvhBIHCR40ep76Ce08/gqpASCJsJiFj392RQVTuYvvWaF 0hxIoL+0NcLuIrbXxf8aiAdFMdwg02zCgTM4h1rteHqIHssaaNLve83HAhGbo6cNSHwe Kvrs8hJq5Sbs+Bt5Elx8jZl09PBclEpHWDt+ZAbOOwQRiTPCNIAl8OGmIfiv7xFRS3Vr eu6k52xPybP/KC0tLaxnx/85l64HBeGYOrklAf2Upyh8PZAdEcomThL3L1epGJCmrH8y M/4NMrEwCilVO4Rc08OgytuRvh4ZtHTj7Q1x3x0q/CdygN59/fR6V9SJX068LxW0MrCc vhIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVD8E93gnrZaYloomuTx8+9M6w3kyW99yCKUd4DwrTko4dcPUq6 D3+wk8htezH4qhhN+frYnuC+X3EeRK1igPxF3p0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxiOBBZ/B3twQV5qRdzo2408iasCCd9QDgkkHbbW9XnhmEZSn8vIaM5eG9uWHKeaWJqlGJHnEbeyyv7mkKqw9A= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8347:: with SMTP id l7mr12487073ljh.17.1558273774140; Sun, 19 May 2019 06:49:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 10:49:21 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual To: Noam Postavsky Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000c76ac905893de2d7" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000c76ac905893de2d7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c76ac605893de2d5" --000000000000c76ac605893de2d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Noam Postavsky writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> In the HTML format of the GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, navigate to >> the node Skipping Characters, under the node Motion. There, look for >> the cross references to Regular Expressions and to Char Classes, and >> note the redundant "See". > > Hmm, the HTML output has a redundant "See", but the .info doesn't. But > I see the texinfo manual examples don't put "see" in front of @xref, so > I guess it's just coincidence that it produces okay results for .info. Yes. Initially, I spotted the redundant "See" in HTML, and when I went to my computer to fix them, I thought they were already fixed because I couldn't see them in .info. I don't know why .info doesn't show the redundant "See". >> * doc/lispref/positions.texi (Skipping Characters): Remove redundant >> "See" before cross references. Change @xref to @pxref, which is >> more suitable when at the end of a sentence. (Bug#35793) > > M-x rgrep RET [Ss]ee @.\?xref RET *.texi RET doc/ RET finds a few more > hits in other manuals, could you fix those too please? Of course Noam, but you should get credit for finding them. The attached patch should cover them. Best regards, Mauro. --000000000000c76ac605893de2d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Noam Postavsky <n= postavs@gmail.com> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>= ;
>> In the HTML format of the GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, na= vigate to
>> the node Skipping Characters, under the node Motion.= =C2=A0 There, look for
>> the cross references to Regular Expressi= ons and to Char Classes, and
>> note the redundant "See"= .
>
> Hmm, the HTML output has a redundant "See", but= the .info doesn't.=C2=A0 But
> I see the texinfo manual examples= don't put "see" in front of @xref, so
> I guess it'= ;s just coincidence that it produces okay results for .info.

Yes.=C2= =A0 Initially, I spotted the redundant "See" in HTML, and when I = went
to my computer to fix them, I thought they were already fixed becau= se I
couldn't see them in .info.=C2=A0 I don't know why .info do= esn't show the
redundant "See".

>> * doc/lisp= ref/positions.texi (Skipping Characters): Remove redundant
>> =C2= =A0 "See" before cross references.=C2=A0 Change @xref to @pxref, = which is
>> =C2=A0 more suitable when at the end of a sentence. = =C2=A0(Bug#35793)
>
> M-x rgrep RET [Ss]ee @.\?xref RET *.texi = RET doc/ RET finds a few more
> hits in other manuals, could you fix = those too please?

Of course Noam, but you should get credit for find= ing them.=C2=A0 The
attached patch should cover them.

Best regard= s,
Mauro.
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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v1sm4914005iob.56.2019.05.19.10.13.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 19 May 2019 10:13:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 13:13:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sun, 19 May 2019 10:49:21 -0300") Message-ID: <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > The attached patch should cover them. I'm getting these warnings on compilation: ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 19 14:21:50 2019 Received: (at 35793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2019 18:21:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSQRR-0002Nj-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 14:21:49 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f170.google.com ([209.85.208.170]:35370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSQRO-0002NV-Ge for 35793@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 May 2019 14:21:47 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f170.google.com with SMTP id h11so9056934ljb.2 for <35793@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 19 May 2019 11:21:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nO9o1W5K0F2s1GL4TsGqsOvxKsLXLAqErLPmzPVWQaU=; b=En8crlXmL64WMD/cMce6o9nq2rnNzYgMeEa0nNeULhzTLzYDlTs3N5RrnBBbKFTi9D DcntwuPpJiNFYT4W4HHUt1vXsZL3+KHT41eppnqo8nHaLH7bEJGqppaR4vVtUEAYxlFW +KLGrk/U/uosYGtImp9WHxoT/uItW+Gj6yy5g9F6+6jtLJApG9S40jeqBThwykGUf3I+ TunuGkcoMaQkeI4+2ml3lfyIUCfHPSqHwiUmhVuPA6iF3LXuTkv8xl8SstVqognBPUPB Wi/fVpzd8COVeG/PG0k7Gt6PQ+w+L3XtGZwkigYqIwc87QefVZnz/cac+UPgYJlL8Ykh UPNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nO9o1W5K0F2s1GL4TsGqsOvxKsLXLAqErLPmzPVWQaU=; b=chUOJywuiFh9yZNhFzoBCHMZlUHI353ZgKjWviclWPMYio+/GSGACNGqPZdFkk5FRW qQyAkeYrJVYOoUIN9x3z2iRN/oDfhpfqSuIxWWq1iyKO73z1nePQoZ1HUGihIblbTO4o tm9I84/EErHnBjM+IW4kE47FYStwI2Yef/09Q6va224IqwUT+n7i7RWxnvVb56Gcsx3I tQXoQVezgn/+hptaWK57Ta3g9I8ZX7JlBJQrLVPyWN8iiAM1PkIUVF3DRLSqT9q/2Zox mB7P94lbr9j42TP3NODtYOr4TCJDVBYu0rSNP8XFcW9x16eth6BWMqwKEf0PtPy9aZGp eAPw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWyADLT8mradNwRX96ecF3D0dz8r6ChYrxME/YFmyEPxQK3iAjO NpLx97gONRxQ1oOIQ79wARI+46dCGwG2RTN6v38= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx5nTa4RGRayyquH3epnfF7efnSbX6EU5piugADapOUPwrbUuS2nm4vJwW8mrHxDU36RPHg1oerSRFz/3vcKZM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:1b8a:: with SMTP id c10mr34770126ljf.139.1558290100297; Sun, 19 May 2019 11:21:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 15:21:27 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual To: Noam Postavsky Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000e2bda7058941afb7" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000e2bda7058941afb7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e2bda5058941afb5" --000000000000e2bda5058941afb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Noam Postavsky writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> The attached patch should cover them. > > I'm getting these warnings on compilation: > > ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. > ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. Right. My version of makeinfo (6.1) doesn't warn about that. I added commas in both places. I think both sentences read fine, but I can change them if you feel that they do not. --000000000000e2bda5058941afb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Noam Postavsky <n= postavs@gmail.com> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>= ;
>> The attached patch should cover them.
>
> I'm= getting these warnings on compilation:
>
> ../../../doc/misc/g= nus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'.<= br>> ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' m= ust follow @xref, not `f'.

Right.=C2=A0 My version of makeinfo (= 6.1) doesn't warn about that.

I added commas in both places.=C2= =A0 I think both sentences read fine, but I
can change them if you feel = that they do not.

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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c4sm1188234itd.12.2019.05.19.12.06.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 19 May 2019 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 15:06:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sun, 19 May 2019 15:21:27 -0300") Message-ID: <87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: >> ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. >> ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. > > Right. My version of makeinfo (6.1) doesn't warn about that. Hmm, I'm using version 4.13 (because it's faster); if newer versions don't warn about this, maybe we should ignore these warnings. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 20 16:56:11 2019 Received: (at 35793) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2019 20:56:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38134 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSpKL-0001Hr-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 16:56:10 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com ([209.85.208.177]:39023) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hSpKI-0001HJ-Uc for 35793@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 16:56:08 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id a10so13819919ljf.6 for <35793@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 20 May 2019 13:56:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Uqpx75l449dD5O3jQ76kEzKuoTUPe/iVf/5AobmEmLM=; b=RCVEIDc4Gg7Z8hWMZGuPJ1T6Goo3LNb6RN5iRTZ/ghofM5ur9yhUPjoJfjrPBOcphp fr/KhtajbanYe2zJrS7tD2uTNetyI5kTB+AuYGvV59BbKwwyXAOFNog+ACCOc3xgwayh poIZ0u327gSSuL4Rglwmg2KzKWobQRE1yBCQ9Ow0rgMVcIrSYgjoJtIGUxV/lmrYH5RZ WYjc73aD6/iXzUUTJLAGWIGyl6zAoAdyZCl0iQJdfAQbZb8BU9sp/1XF46mZvVOT6qcZ ySCQReAXVQw2x2Uhbn3iulHqNomNTjZwO04CeEnZv05V4vJTXmCtIwdgRSeicbJTrZ46 z68A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Uqpx75l449dD5O3jQ76kEzKuoTUPe/iVf/5AobmEmLM=; b=AXEUrBlgRWEwhcQpHXG28JS5htVvuVoEsi0P7oio9iyOLOdCm0mjAGOWqmIargRBFp S5D9qzG3s+Y9nNpG2mA+IcLP6cXGKkXMkkz1KQ9bpUUm/ELFJFrKVrSqbxwBSBVV+gdQ a4dXUouXWk//YdAldDrOY0oUZwdRVMLy90Dx1wojxs2R27dGxCEmH+Ql0y5O4YRB5AW+ QETueb++w+hsXHVyFPVcixjy9heIwfjkR5k+RN/zq7uMs8bEK3MOkB0RYAX+x5/G5uzH +pIg3LtG09NDX1ZU+Ag5IhaAPwNAIxNd6G5DIDsi7rGmDAwRP0JpAjKNHrnwS7EAMFvm /QFg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXXHdGg7hZrlYBu/5DIBlyCGdIKEleRsahYl7aJsX0YGCOXWbHw GmzgEkezl9FEko5CZBlRaQwKyQeFEceN2zCHi+4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyJG1jzEo7MssFQ4qDuBmVLcT/RgFE9FGLEFjwP/hSjQs2BfUD1fuD1xYYRL/3Iy2HYOfugGOZl7Oxicu815gE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8347:: with SMTP id l7mr17145507ljh.17.1558385760604; Mon, 20 May 2019 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> <87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 17:55:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual To: Noam Postavsky Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000af30f3058957f5b0" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000af30f3058957f5b0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000af30f0058957f5ae" --000000000000af30f0058957f5ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Noam Postavsky writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >>> ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. >>> ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. >> >> Right. My version of makeinfo (6.1) doesn't warn about that. > > Hmm, I'm using version 4.13 (because it's faster); if newer versions > don't warn about this, maybe we should ignore these warnings. IMO, it's fairly easy to avoid these warnings, so I wouldn't suggest modifications that introduce them. BTW, one of the hits you reported, namely: ./misc/gnus.texi:3115:See @pxref{Group Mail Splitting} to automatically split on group looks like is from the master branch and would produce the same warning with the previous patch. So I attach a new patch, that covers all the hits of redundant "See"s found, and don't produce warnings, AFAICS. Best regards, Mauro. --000000000000af30f0058957f5ae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Noam Postavsky <n= postavs@gmail.com> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>= ;
>>> ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,&= #39; must follow @xref, not `f'.
>>> ../../../doc/misc//gnu= s-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'.=
>>
>> Right.=C2=A0 My version of makeinfo (6.1) doesn= 9;t warn about that.
>
> Hmm, I'm using version 4.13 (becau= se it's faster); if newer versions
> don't warn about this, m= aybe we should ignore these warnings.

IMO, it's fairly easy to a= void these warnings, so I wouldn't suggest
modifications that introd= uce them.

BTW, one of the hits you reported, namely:
./misc/= gnus.texi:3115:See @pxref{Group Mail Splitting} to automatically split on g= roup

looks like is from the master branch and would produce the sa= me warning
with the previous patch.

So I attach a new patch, that= covers all the hits of redundant "See"s
found, and don't = produce warnings, AFAICS.

Best regards,
Mauro.
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<87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sun, 19 May 2019 15:06:57 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> <87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org, maurooaranda@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 15:06:57 -0400 > Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org > > Mauro Aranda writes: > > >> ../../../doc/misc/gnus.texi:3099: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. > >> ../../../doc/misc//gnus-faq.texi:710: warning: `.' or `,' must follow @xref, not `f'. > > > > Right. My version of makeinfo (6.1) doesn't warn about that. > > Hmm, I'm using version 4.13 (because it's faster); if newer versions > don't warn about this, maybe we should ignore these warnings. I'd like to keep compatibility with old Makeinfo versions, so let's keep the commas. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 132sm2919618ity.9.2019.05.25.10.14.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 25 May 2019 10:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#35793: 27.0.50; Redundant "See" in the ELisp manual References: <87a7fid4jz.fsf@gmail.com> <87sgtabc4o.fsf@gmail.com> <87ef4ub6we.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:14:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Mon, 20 May 2019 17:55:46 -0300") Message-ID: <87pno68nhq.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35793 Cc: 35793@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 35793 fixed close 35793 26.3 quit Mauro Aranda writes: > > BTW, one of the hits you reported, namely: > ./misc/gnus.texi:3115:See @pxref{Group Mail Splitting} to automatically > split on group > > looks like is from the master branch and would produce the same warning > with the previous patch. > > So I attach a new patch, that covers all the hits of redundant "See"s > found, and don't produce warnings, AFAICS. Thanks, pushed to emacs-26, except the Mail Splitting hunk, which I pushed to master. 7681a57b88 2019-05-25T13:02:05-04:00 "Remove redundants "See" before @xref or @pxref (Bug#35793)" https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=7681a57b88a91bf9eedc890b974df9728d5eb50d cd7a0bd008 2019-05-25T13:08:05-04:00 "Remove redundants "See" before @xref or @pxref (Bug#35793)" https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=cd7a0bd00802b9331229dfe4a70ea9690d2d70fc From unknown Fri Sep 12 06:30:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator