From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:16:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#35764: Proposal: gnus-summary-describe-article Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 35764 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 35764@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.155802853027281 (code B ref -1); Thu, 16 May 2019 17:43:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2019 17:42:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRKOQ-00075x-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 13:42:10 -0400 Received: from quail.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.151]:6053) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRKOO-00075l-Fv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 13:42:09 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3A33E2898 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 17:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.20.60]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 538C73E395F for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 17:42:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Thu, 16 May 2019 17:42:06 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Average-Chief: 7379610d1e052dac_1558028526445_2804439172 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1558028526445:3354523460 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1558028526444 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1824382B6B for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=Ay1LK9wVudHT5UdVclot+F3F6J0=; b=SQxRsqZ6CREH5q8G tDaDai7pbixEaLxlj+JM7i8M0ZDylb9lpTWbhkiD83wr6CxABHYnd17QWWrRbcDV VWm9th69Rc4CEEk4WZcPf07tuA53nSKMNhsig2I43REX3ryqUjS/ORcDq3Z4FEvO Nk27/6JjDPAhZOHJYwpMhrg4Qrk= Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-3-32.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.3.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 86FA482B74 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a47 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 00:41:38 +0800 Message-ID: <87sgte2vy5.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddruddttddguddufecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppedvvddtrddugedtrdefrdefvdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedvvddtrddugedtrdefrdefvddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopehsuhgsmhhithesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Just like M-x describe-char gives tons of details about a character, a future gnus-summary-describe-article function could show all the items in the C-h v gnus-summary-line-format docstring, one per line, whithout the user needing to change his gnus-summary-line-format just to see what they all are for one article. Output would have % escapes helpfully mentioned. So it would list: %N Article number, left padded with spaces (string) %S Subject (string) %s Subject if it is at the root of a thread, and "" otherwise (string) %n Name of the poster (string) %a Extracted name of the poster (string) ... Like this: Article number %N: 1234 Subject %S: Larry wants a waffle Poster %n: Bill Prfowitz ... And mention this new function on (info "(gnus) Back End Interface") And maybe with a prefix argument just have it analyze the user's current gnus-summary-line-format, in the order that the %'s appear in it. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:16:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#35764: Proposal: gnus-summary-describe-article Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35764 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 35764@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 35764-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35764.15612045808150 (code B ref 35764); Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 35764) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2019 11:56:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51043 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heed1-00027O-Ns for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:56:20 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:38710) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heecz-00027D-Br for 35764@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:56:17 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heecv-0005WL-HK; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:56:15 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87sgte2vy5.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:56:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87sgte2vy5.5.fsf@jidanni.org> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Fri, 17 May 2019 00:41:38 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson writes: > Just like M-x describe-char gives tons of details about a character, a > future gnus-summary-describe-article function could > show all the items in the C-h v gnus-summary-line-format docstring, > o [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Just like M-x describe-char gives tons of details about a character, a > future gnus-summary-describe-article function could > show all the items in the C-h v gnus-summary-line-format docstring, > one per line, whithout the user needing to change his > gnus-summary-line-format just to see what they all are for one article. > Output would have % escapes helpfully mentioned. > > So it would list: > > %N Article number, left padded with spaces (string) > %S Subject (string) > %s Subject if it is at the root of a thread, and "" otherwise (s= tring) > %n Name of the poster (string) > %a Extracted name of the poster (string) > ... > > Like this: > > Article number %N: 1234 > Subject %S: Larry wants a waffle > Poster %n: Bill Prfowitz Sorry, I don't really see the use case here -- all the data is available in the Article buffer, and the users already know how to use that. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 22 07:56:24 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2019 11:56:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heed6-00027g-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:56:24 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:38724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heed4-00027X-9h for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:56:22 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heed1-0005WR-Mk for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:56:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:56:19 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #35764 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 35764 wontfix close 35764 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 35764 wontfix close 35764 quit