From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:54:56 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#35435 <35435@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#35435 <35435@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in emacs Reply-To: bug#35435 <35435@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 01:54:56 +0000 retitle 35435 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in ema= cs reassign 35435 emacs submitter 35435 Eric Danan severity 35435 important thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 26 07:05:55 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2019 11:05:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60171 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfz-0004wC-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34885) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfw-0004vu-DZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:53 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfr-0003MY-B1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49265) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfp-0000IJ-Sk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:47 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfo-0003Hb-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:45 -0400 Received: from smtp-sh2.infomaniak.ch ([128.65.195.6]:54208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJyfn-00037t-Qk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 07:05:44 -0400 Received: from smtp6.infomaniak.ch (smtp6.infomaniak.ch [83.166.132.19]) by smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x3QB5cGO032592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:05:38 +0200 Received: from [10.20.17.114] ([194.167.235.219]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp6.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x3QB5bcW032266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:05:38 +0200 From: Eric Danan Subject: 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in emacs To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <77a6ac4f-aa3c-74ee-764b-e9df21692d36@u-cergy.fr> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:05:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr-classic X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8 X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch id x3QB5cGO032592 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 128.65.195.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello, Due to a visual impairment I constantly work with a screen magnifier=20 turned on (in full screen mode), and I need it to track the cursor/caret=20 to follow what I am typing. So far I am using emacs 26.1 on cygwin on windows 10, and the windows 10=20 magnifier does the job of tracking the cursor. I am considering switching to gnome on linux and therefore installed the=20 fedora (version 29) distribution to try it out. The gnome (3.30) shell=20 magnifier supports cursor tracking and it works in other applications=20 but not emacs (26.1). I previously sent this message to the gnome accessibility list (that was=20 a long time ago in 2015, so with earlier versions of emacs and gnome)=20 and got a reply from Alex Arnaud stating: > I've tried to test Emacs with Accercicer (a accessibility debug tool)=20 and my conclusion are Emacs doesn't connect it to AT-SPI (accessibility=20 stack). I then wrote to the emacs-devel mailing list 2 months ago and Stefan=20 Monnier suggested that I open a bug. A simple recipe to reproduce the issue is: - Turn on gnome magnifier from Settings > Universal access, - Launch emacs - Start typing in the scratch buffer As you type, the magnified area would be expected to move to follow the=20 cursor, but it does not and at some point the cursor leaves the=20 magnified area so you do not see what you are typing anymore. Please let me know if any further information is needed. Best regards, Eric In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.23.2) of 2018-08-13 built on buildvm-13.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.12001000 Recent messages: Loading=20 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/desktop-entry-mode-init.el=20 (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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The gnome (3.30) shell > magnifier supports cursor tracking and it works in other applications > but not emacs (26.1). > > I previously sent this message to the gnome accessibility list (that was > a long time ago in 2015, so with earlier versions of emacs and gnome) > and got a reply from Alex Arnaud stating: > > > I've tried to test Emacs with Accercicer (a accessibility debug tool) > and my conclusion are Emacs doesn't connect it to AT-SPI (accessibility > stack). The Windows port of Emacs has special code to move the system caret in sync with the cursor. I guess the X build should have something similar, patches are welcome to implement that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 26 17:26:34 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2019 21:26:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33725 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hK8Mc-0003Nz-AW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:26:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48326) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hK8MZ-0003Ni-Tx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:26:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hK8MU-0008T2-NS for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:26:26 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hK8MN-0005BL-Qf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:26:21 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 35435 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:26:19 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) severity 35435 important From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 02 04:17:42 2019 Received: (at 35435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2019 08:17:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hM6uU-0000Jd-1s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2019 04:17:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch ([128.65.195.4]:43019) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hM6uR-0000JU-RX for 35435@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2019 04:17:41 -0400 Received: from smtp7.infomaniak.ch (smtp7.infomaniak.ch [83.166.132.30]) by smtp-sh.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x428HUGR023458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 2 May 2019 10:17:30 +0200 Received: from [10.20.17.114] ([194.167.235.219]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp7.infomaniak.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x428HT9P127679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 May 2019 10:17:29 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#35435: 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in emacs To: Eli Zaretskii References: <77a6ac4f-aa3c-74ee-764b-e9df21692d36@u-cergy.fr> <83zhodvx08.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eric Danan Message-ID: <98092a61-4443-8415-17a1-370e270ee060@u-cergy.fr> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:17:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83zhodvx08.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr-classic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8 X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35435 Cc: Alex ARNAUD , 35435@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Thanks for your reply. I don't have the knowledge (neither on the emacs code nor on X) to prepare such a patch, and I of course understand if no one else can do it, but I an otherwise happy to test things if that can help. (Also cc'ing Alex Arnaud, which I forgot to do the first time.) On 2019-04-26 13:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Eric Danan >> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:05:41 +0200 >> >> Due to a visual impairment I constantly work with a screen magnifier >> turned on (in full screen mode), and I need it to track the cursor/caret >> to follow what I am typing. >> >> So far I am using emacs 26.1 on cygwin on windows 10, and the windows 10 >> magnifier does the job of tracking the cursor. >> >> I am considering switching to gnome on linux and therefore installed the >> fedora (version 29) distribution to try it out. The gnome (3.30) shell >> magnifier supports cursor tracking and it works in other applications >> but not emacs (26.1). >> >> I previously sent this message to the gnome accessibility list (that was >> a long time ago in 2015, so with earlier versions of emacs and gnome) >> and got a reply from Alex Arnaud stating: >> >> > I've tried to test Emacs with Accercicer (a accessibility debug tool) >> and my conclusion are Emacs doesn't connect it to AT-SPI (accessibility >> stack). > > The Windows port of Emacs has special code to move the system caret in > sync with the cursor. I guess the X build should have something > similar, patches are welcome to implement that. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 03 05:49:31 2020 Received: (at 35435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2020 10:49:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iyZIJ-0007W6-Fn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 05:49:31 -0500 Received: from smtp-sh2.infomaniak.ch ([128.65.195.6]:36153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iyZIG-0007Vs-KH for 35435@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 05:49:29 -0500 Received: from smtp-2-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch (smtp-2-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch [10.5.36.108]) by smtp-sh2.infomaniak.ch (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id 013AnQ5N142128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:49:26 +0100 Received: from [172.31.188.190] (unknown [137.205.238.21]) by smtp-2-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 86E8410061CC8; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 11:49:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: bug#35435: 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in emacs From: Eric Danan To: Eli Zaretskii References: <77a6ac4f-aa3c-74ee-764b-e9df21692d36@u-cergy.fr> <83zhodvx08.fsf@gnu.org> <98092a61-4443-8415-17a1-370e270ee060@u-cergy.fr> Message-ID: <31fa8bcf-09e6-97c4-9e44-bd60f941ea21@u-cergy.fr> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 10:49:15 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <98092a61-4443-8415-17a1-370e270ee060@u-cergy.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8 X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35435 Cc: Alex ARNAUD , 35435@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Hello, For the record, it seems that cursor tracking does not work with the Mac OS magnifier ("zoom") either when typing in Emacs. I tested this with a Mac OS 10.15 virtual machine and installing Emacs from the following sources: * emacsformacosx.com * Homebrew: ** brew cask install emacs: I was not able to complete the installation for some reason but it is the same as emacsformacosx.com if I understand correctly ** brew install emacs-plus ** brew install emacs-mac * Mac Ports ** sudo port install emacs-app ** sudo port install emacs-app-devel ** sudo port install emacs-mac-app On the other hand, cursor tracking worked correctly in e.g. the Safari browser. So I guess the Mac port of Emacs does not have the "special code to move the system caret in sync with the cursor" that the Windows port has. Eric On 2019-05-02 09:17, Eric Danan wrote: > Thanks for your reply. I don't have the knowledge (neither on the emacs > code nor on X) to prepare such a patch, and I of course understand if no > one else can do it, but I an otherwise happy to test things if that can > help. > > (Also cc'ing Alex Arnaud, which I forgot to do the first time.) > > On 2019-04-26 13:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> From: Eric Danan >>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:05:41 +0200 >>> >>> Due to a visual impairment I constantly work with a screen magnifier >>> turned on (in full screen mode), and I need it to track the cursor/caret >>> to follow what I am typing. >>> >>> So far I am using emacs 26.1 on cygwin on windows 10, and the windows 10 >>> magnifier does the job of tracking the cursor. >>> >>> I am considering switching to gnome on linux and therefore installed the >>> fedora (version 29) distribution to try it out. The gnome (3.30) shell >>> magnifier supports cursor tracking and it works in other applications >>> but not emacs (26.1). >>> >>> I previously sent this message to the gnome accessibility list (that was >>> a long time ago in 2015, so with earlier versions of emacs and gnome) >>> and got a reply from Alex Arnaud stating: >>> >>>   > I've tried to test Emacs with Accercicer (a accessibility debug >>> tool) >>> and my conclusion are Emacs doesn't connect it to AT-SPI (accessibility >>> stack). >> >> The Windows port of Emacs has special code to move the system caret in >> sync with the cursor.  I guess the X build should have something >> similar, patches are welcome to implement that. >> From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 03 19:51:34 2020 Received: (at 35435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2020 00:51:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42335 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iymRC-0006gu-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:51:34 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:57834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iymRA-0006gh-Ne for 35435@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:51:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7roixjouGezUHp+MAlzA6PNwWhBjPFfiYh/AVIYE3NQ=; b=Yf8IbeWhOx2wetQAV/LD2wc5CK c1YPI0ptLCms0kDNluzZseAUvvJC7TpxsH35coCrO3e8IKMqfAwRP7YpEjV0Ql1wKowQgWW6g/KH2 3qkie83D0OQ20uTgZ4z7Ab+QsEmpRq4QTNgXkxsaE5IzOyFQgOZ5N35U3kCvUU+Ya8Hhez6Osvc2e 0PDSYTRcGesH+8J9csX6R1oUYJW+wXSDX4BIGh9nkNW0+0gLYapcGRqmFs+Pwdnjv/oLvHuPjaZf1 fEZqh/Wy0YKaQ0U0H0veOLdGa/B5g3tkqBpwDQmbJbCdjjmhQlAzUbTm57ZJEQ7iYqdMUwRum06oa SPMS6n7w==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:42072 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iymR2-0017VG-Qj; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:51:25 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eric Danan Subject: Re: bug#35435: 26.1; Gnome magnifier not following cursor when typing in emacs In-Reply-To: <31fa8bcf-09e6-97c4-9e44-bd60f941ea21@u-cergy.fr> (Eric Danan's message of "Mon, 3 Feb 2020 10:49:15 +0000") References: <77a6ac4f-aa3c-74ee-764b-e9df21692d36@u-cergy.fr> <83zhodvx08.fsf@gnu.org> <98092a61-4443-8415-17a1-370e270ee060@u-cergy.fr> <31fa8bcf-09e6-97c4-9e44-bd60f941ea21@u-cergy.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2020 01:51:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9on6uph.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eric Danan writes: > For the record, it seems that cursor tracking does not work with the Mac OS > magnifier ("zoom") either when typing in Emacs. I tested this with a Mac OS > 10.15 virtual machine and installing Emacs [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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I would therefore suggest that you file a new bug report to track this issue. Best regards, Stefan Kangas