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After entering the regexp there is no feedback telling you that Emacs has started searching. Nada. If you happen to have a search that takes more than a few seconds you can really begin to wonder what, if anything, is going on. Emacs convention is to say SOMETHING - typically something like "Searching..." - and then to follow that up with an indication when the activity is done - e.g. "Searching...done". 2. There doesn't seem to be any key binding that opens a search hit in a new window or frame. I don't want Emacs to replace the source Dired buffer in its window. In my case buffer `*xref*' is in its own dedicated window, in its own frame (the buffer is a special-display buffer, based on its name. Perhaps such a use case wasn't tested? Typically Emacs provides _some_ key to open things in another window or frame. Sure, users can fiddle to create their own bindings, but I'm surprised the default behavior, let alone the only provided behavior, would replace the Dired buffer in its window. Hard to believe anyone would want that behavior, but I suppose someone must. In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17134 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 28 16:47:35 2019 Received: (at 35352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2019 20:47:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57324 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hVj0Q-0006Hh-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2019 16:47:35 -0400 Received: from ladybird.maple.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.214.98]:20306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hVj0J-0006HQ-Py for 35352@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2019 16:47:28 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C159C2C3140; Tue, 28 May 2019 20:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-88-48.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.88.48]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3FE262C30AE; Tue, 28 May 2019 20:47:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a6.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Tue, 28 May 2019 20:47:26 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Imminent-Hook: 645bf5b04c28ba2f_1559076446603_3473487695 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1559076446603:2523460833 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1559076446602 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BAE8019B; Tue, 28 May 2019 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=m0Q+WisdLf9nBVz/ZCVS64vjMFs=; b= eGU50V9zNh3Hc7ClBE002jx/3fRkqx/66H/9j5TNB2hcpxrgBL/K1K1u3LOiGcfO GkJhKiVVMPaqmKyNb6p435AT4TtamdIZCkWecXn0yL8Qyo+zmfNwnX5HD50hy4zU Bo3gO50X8QWYGLtjUB0DnUgCFs/I6MhAi5anuCHrxzo= Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-96-73.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.96.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91FD48019D; Tue, 28 May 2019 13:47:19 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a6 From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#35352: 26.2; Xref: (1) no activity indication, (2) no other-window opening Organization: LINKOV.NET References: Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 23:43:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:05:21 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87imtue37q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddruddvhedgudehfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffuohhfffgjkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeeluddruddvledrleeirdejfeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepmhgrihhlrdhjuhhrthgrrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepledurdduvdelrdeliedrjeefpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvthdpnhhrtghpthhtohepughrvgifrdgruggrmhhssehorhgrtghlvgdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpeef X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: 35352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > `dired-do-find-regexp': > > 1. After entering the regexp there is no feedback telling you that Emacs > has started searching. Nada. If you happen to have a search that > takes more than a few seconds you can really begin to wonder what, if > anything, is going on. Emacs convention is to say SOMETHING - > typically something like "Searching..." - and then to follow that up > with an indication when the activity is done - > e.g. "Searching...done". > > 2. There doesn't seem to be any key binding that opens a search hit in a > new window or frame. I don't want Emacs to replace the source Dired > buffer in its window. I tried to reproduce these problems, but after running in `emacs -Q' `dired-do-find-regexp' failed with this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function xref--show-xrefs) xref--show-xrefs(#f(compiled-function () #) nil) dired-do-find-regexp("dired-do-find-regexp") funcall-interactively(dired-do-find-regexp "dired-do-find-regexp") call-interactively(dired-do-find-regexp record nil) command-execute(dired-do-find-regexp record) execute-extended-command(nil "dired-do-find-regexp" nil) funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "dired-do-find-regexp" nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) command-execute(execute-extended-command) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 30 13:29:52 2019 Received: (at 35352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2019 17:29:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOsC-0003lD-Ew for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:29:52 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f50.google.com ([209.85.128.50]:56041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hWOsA-0003ku-Cn for 35352@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2019 13:29:50 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f50.google.com with SMTP id 16so22656wmg.5 for <35352@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 30 May 2019 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tVH/yoNWOxtBlOnKXSH0/i5FtjEi2FZuW8ax/ojqC0A=; b=UHF5FHyOAro5uRiQHU9i7+MN+wmdEdqez/UBDPVp7ptGR/IsohNT8SrXTLrw/50Ptf jsx06c5Bw6MZqy3YLYK7zggHtL+Va0lGMM97UtFc6nqPVX6SZ08Q2AZMFztCcFqI0bNr vawQXn/U2Ncwr7JMu/lhEpK/epJBVUiUY9wDueOqLHvvfJDCu3Vitin04TPIsRWXLyCi opAI8QMOqNJ94Zi2B69Pp8VW91wIoscQQWAqF6j45BvmcHBjYBJNeDNMPQiVVbHYlTfh /FVquCHUa/z21pdkx2GibAM0YExZxbL0QFUq7SnXOtWJzEPQpo4otRP8hJWmC0sWJYek vDcw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tVH/yoNWOxtBlOnKXSH0/i5FtjEi2FZuW8ax/ojqC0A=; b=cFo8uq0xMRK93wKxMWpiyylGXlfB8L5JHbwDzNF3oj46Gy8XK74bwt1fQ6AufOCarR pAw7gBfuq4sqU9Gk8n3PDrg+d7U71xUrNQRivZBQsmwYRjIylbsps/UKtwB+J9EIYNK2 /4uEKUBjlUZirztDNT7LSDgzuL/ljNNzQ/1Gj5juln9/907SIm5Fr3a+sygEeNWtVq90 ntpaeO5jLs7MBV2kBxW9WOL6QWVYndKg5HPW5iU7MDfgWLwm+xNjjPY5LMz80oxY0hNS eXSDCmD2h/jo5ermprmp7LAfGS4B531LLXQYsZVd/SIgZCQqtC9UUEPKhP8V4qga0HSX 0Ayw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVs8Z8o0VvlE7NHow+9MoNCS6Y9MgL4N2k6WYehm7TpVJtDEqcw L38znGkpR2n8Gc/CDVJCApWf0tHw X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxTjeih4lbczVg0SxuPiJ6e7ZfytpKk3n9F2n0X79TdbxEqFriUiW960bKYPuibScME0nWt4A== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cb81:: with SMTP id b123mr2909295wmg.107.1559237383760; Thu, 30 May 2019 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.81.28] ([82.116.203.99]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s11sm2721998wro.17.2019.05.30.10.29.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2019 10:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#35352: 26.2; Xref: (1) no activity indication, (2) no other-window opening To: Juri Linkov , Drew Adams References: <87imtue37q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 20:29:41 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87imtue37q.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: 35352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On 28.05.2019 23:43, Juri Linkov wrote: > I tried to reproduce these problems, but after running in `emacs -Q' > `dired-do-find-regexp' failed with this error: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function xref--show-xrefs) > xref--show-xrefs(#f(compiled-function () #) nil) Ouch. Should be fixed now, thank you. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > `dired-do-find-regexp': > > 1. After entering the regexp there is no feedback telling you that Emacs > has started searching. Nada. If you happen to have a search that > takes more than a few second [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: 35352@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > `dired-do-find-regexp': > > 1. After entering the regexp there is no feedback telling you that Emacs > has started searching. Nada. If you happen to have a search that > takes more than a few seconds you can really begin to wonder what, if > anything, is going on. Emacs convention is to say SOMETHING - > typically something like "Searching..." - and then to follow that up > with an indication when the activity is done - > e.g. "Searching...done". Makes sense. I've now made this change in Emacs 28. > 2. There doesn't seem to be any key binding that opens a search hit in a > new window or frame. I don't want Emacs to replace the source Dired > buffer in its window. > > In my case buffer `*xref*' is in its own dedicated window, in its own > frame (the buffer is a special-display buffer, based on its name. > Perhaps such a use case wasn't tested? Typically Emacs provides > _some_ key to open things in another window or frame. Well, it depends on the mode. For instance, I don't think `M-x grep' has any command to open in a new window/frame, and I don't think we want to add all those commands to all these modes because users want so many different combinations here that it's best left to the general buffer/window selection machinery. But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and keystrokes) for these "follow this 'link'" modes would be nice? 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Anybody > got an opinion here? https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/other-frame-window.html ? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 22.06.2021 18:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and >> keystrokes) for these "follow this 'link'" modes would be nice? Anybody >> got a [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: 35352@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 22.06.2021 18:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and >> keystrokes) for these "follow this 'link'" modes would be nice? Anybody >> got an opinion here? > > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/other-frame-window.html ? Ah, nice. There's still the question of whether Emacs should have (something like) this built-in, but I'm leaning towards "no"... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 22 10:21:44 2021 Received: (at 35352) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2021 14:21:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Za4-0004WJ-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:21:44 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m6Za1-0004W0-SQ for 35352@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:21:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=JxBGHoQBugRvqIGXHraZ6/Knl6CkU/lnHXlmwFJhK9Q=; b=FNhR6u7rJFmjNfWKtVDQI6o5W+ 3oDt8voFY4fhMl9ZRR5zxFxebOZoOk9jCt4gSJtpTbZ7RUFlncQhhenqAxNMSfd8cxA+8kkvZHxLk QQ/BCZeOhBN3wvyzz9sN7qjapW9HPrg83b+iSW0Sb0u/dzzp2RlNcUekeXrgg9gl5w8U=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6ZZt-0003QK-4F; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:21:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#35352: 26.2; Xref: (1) no activity indication, (2) no other-window opening References: <87h7hqnd5e.fsf@gnus.org> <4da3ec4d-862f-091a-a387-8014bf58b8bc@yandex.ru> <87eecsn3gc.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Nazar's _Guerrilla_: "Diverted" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:21:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eecsn3gc.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:57:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0liig43.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> On 22.06.2021 18:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and >>> keystrokes) for these "follow thi [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: 35352@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> On 22.06.2021 18:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and >>> keystrokes) for these "follow this 'link'" modes would be nice? Anybody >>> got an opinion here? >> >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/other-frame-window.html ? > > Ah, nice. There's still the question of whether Emacs should have > (something like) this built-in, but I'm leaning towards "no"... 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: fd8b85c8-e587-48fa-3cdd-08d94d23491b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 22 Jul 2021 15:13:39.3957 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: +Xw2kVREp4IJR1LYVDr/xQ4xU3quvxnbmyEQ/08mleRFkeUzs23EDy9rN9tASMIGJrcNVRTrNCq6hOAp8HSe6w== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SJ0PR10MB4605 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=10053 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2107220102 X-Proofpoint-GUID: n9SkktU2PylMD6HHIm1xJHrj4wsEdePg X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: n9SkktU2PylMD6HHIm1xJHrj4wsEdePg X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35352 Cc: "35352@debbugs.gnu.org" <35352@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > >>> But... on the other hand, perhaps a standard set of commands (and > >>> keystrokes) for these "follow this 'link'" modes would be nice? Anyb= ody > >>> got an opinion here? > >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/other-frame- > window.html__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!ZlCeUkIklYNOveRY6ugZ4ggHQ5GxNlrOzfhQlkK0u= 4FNb > Goamg7I5Np4twlAb__9$ ? > > > > Ah, nice. There's still the question of whether Emacs should have > > (something like) this built-in, but I'm leaning towards "no"... Whether nice or not, that's irrelevant to this bug report, IMO. Sure, it talks about using another window - that's all. > And nobody had an opinion here in a month, so=20 > I'm closing this bug report. Opinion about `other-frame-window'? Not related. Was the case of a dedicated window for the *xref* buffer tested? That's a case I reported about. > Well, it depends on the mode. For instance, I don't > think `M-x grep' has any command to open in a new > window/frame, and I don't think we want to add all > those commands to all these modes because users want > so many different combinations here that it's best > left to the general buffer/window selection machinery. You mentioned *grep* as being the _same_ as *xref*. I wish *xref* _did_ behave like *grep. The problem is that it doesn't. As I said in my report, I use dedicated windows for buffers whose names start and end with `*'. E.g., (setq special-display-regexps '("[ ]?[*][^*]+[*]")) *xref* should be the same case as *grep*, but it's not. The bug was reported for *xref*. With grep, `RET' or `mouse-2' on a search hit invokes `compile-goto-error', which does `next-error-internal', which DTRT - it opens the search-hit buffer in a window other than that of the Dired buffer. That's the point of the bug report - a request to make *xref* behave properly, like *grep* does, when choosing a search hit. If this was fixed, great; thanks. If not, then I guess this is just another "won't fix". From unknown Sat Jun 14 03:55:02 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator