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Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:42:14 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x3I0eSIp018140 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:42:13 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2rubq780hf-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:42:13 +0000 Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x3I0gDrb013217 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:42:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <775fb6e5-a40a-46c4-b230-7cfc3b421f3b@default> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4834.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9230 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1904180001 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9230 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1904180001 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.79 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Please consider adding to each of these doc strings a mention to see also the other. The behaviors controlled by these two options are very similar/related. (In fact, it might have been better to have a single option with multiple values. Users should be able to configure the behavior in a single place, and they should be able to apply the same kind of wait behavior for the `M-x ' display as for a key binding display.) In GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-04-13 Repository revision: fd1b34bfba8f3f6298df47c8e10b61530426f749 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17134 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From unknown Wed Sep 10 12:14:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#35309: 26.2; Doc strings of `extended-command-suggest-shorter' and `suggest-key-bindings' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 35309@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 35309-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35309.15626834454012 (code B ref 35309); Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 35309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2019 14:44:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33697 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLh-00012e-4N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:44:05 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:47254) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLe-00012E-T8 for 35309@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:44:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLZ-0006GD-Na; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:44:00 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <775fb6e5-a40a-46c4-b230-7cfc3b421f3b@default> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:43:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <775fb6e5-a40a-46c4-b230-7cfc3b421f3b@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:42:12 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87muhntgia.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > Please consider adding to each of these doc strings a mention to see > also the other. The behaviors controlled by these two options are > very similar/related. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > Please consider adding to each of these doc strings a mention to see > also the other. The behaviors controlled by these two options are > very similar/related. Makes sense; done. > (In fact, it might have been better to have a single option with > multiple values. Users should be able to configure the behavior in a > single place, and they should be able to apply the same kind of wait > behavior for the `M-x ' display as for a key binding > display.) They are for different things -- one is for commands with bindings and one without, so having them separate is fine. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 10:44:08 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2019 14:44:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLk-00012u-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:44:08 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:47272) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLi-00012m-Ds for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:44:06 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hkrLf-0006GN-Rv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:44:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:44:03 +0200 Message-Id: <87lfx7tgi4.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #35309 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 35309 fixed close 35309 27.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 35309 fixed close 35309 27.1 quit