From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:55:13 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#35212 <35212@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#35212 <35212@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: problem docs vs. implementation Reply-To: bug#35212 <35212@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 04:55:13 +0000 retitle 35212 problem docs vs. implementation reassign 35212 coreutils submitter 35212 L A Walsh severity 35212 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 09 20:32:05 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2019 00:32:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52208 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19p-0003Nu-0w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:32:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19m-0003HR-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:32:03 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19h-0003xY-7v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:31:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36049) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19e-00062L-UQ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:31:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19e-0003tW-6f for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:31:54 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:49898 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hE19d-0003oy-Qu for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:31:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id x3A0Vm3e070421 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2019 17:31:51 -0700 Message-ID: <5CAD3970.3080500@tlinx.org> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:31:44 -0700 From: L A Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Coreutils Subject: problem docs vs. implementation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 173.164.175.65 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) My console becomes 121 characters wide when I turn on unicode, but stty says it is 132 characters. Looking at the stty manpage, I see: Special settings: ... * cols N tell the kernel that the terminal has N columns * columns N same as cols N --- I thought 'cool', I'll tell the kernel its only 121 characters. I end up with : > echo $TTY > /dev/tty1 > stty cols 121 stty: 'standard input': Invalid argument So .. why can't I tell the kernel how many columns my tty is?