From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:52:05 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#35157 <35157@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#35157 <35157@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.1; MacOSX Fixed Width Osaka Regular-Mono is variable width Reply-To: bug#35157 <35157@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 04:52:05 +0000 retitle 35157 26.1; MacOSX Fixed Width Osaka Regular-Mono is variable width reassign 35157 emacs submitter 35157 Devon Sean McCullough severity 35157 minor tag 35157 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 05 08:32:47 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2019 12:32:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1X-0002Dm-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53593) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1U-0002DY-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:45 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1N-0003cR-8t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1L-0005IB-3l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1H-0003BP-JE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:33 -0400 Received: from gateway31.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.143.36]:29237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO1F-0002gD-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:32:30 -0400 Received: from cm11.websitewelcome.com (cm11.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.5]) by gateway31.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7793AB for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 07:32:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leaf.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.82.99]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id CO13h87tsdnCeCO13hxAUG; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 07:32:17 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 Received: from pool-108-48-20-73.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([108.48.20.73]:55945 helo=devons-air.fios-router.home) by leaf.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hCO12-000t15-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 07:32:16 -0500 From: Devon Sean McCullough Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 26.1; MacOSX Fixed Width Osaka Regular-Mono is variable width Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 08:32:13 -0400 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - leaf.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jovi.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 108.48.20.73 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1hCO12-000t15-My X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-108-48-20-73.washdc.fios.verizon.net (devons-air.fios-router.home) [108.48.20.73]:55945 X-Source-Auth: devon2011@jovi.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: am92aW5ldDtkZXZvbjtsZWFmLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 192.185.143.36 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) In MacOSX Emacs: Options > Set Default Font... > Fixed Width > Osaka The "Osaka" font is misplaced in the "Fixed Width" collection: spaces are narrower than letters and -> <- tab is three numerals wide. 0123456789 Variable Width fonts shouldn=E2=80=99t be advertised as Fixed Width. Peace --Devon P.S. Emacs shows characters like (insert ?\N{THUMBS UP SIGN}) =F0=9F=91=8D= as blank space - surely some sort of visible glyph, fallback font or highlight in the fashion of makefile-space would be better? 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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:937:7b3e:2:f580]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y17sm29638130wrh.60.2019.04.06.08.41.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Apr 2019 08:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 16:41:28 +0100 From: Alan Third To: Devon Sean McCullough Subject: Re: bug#35157: 26.1; MacOSX Fixed Width Osaka Regular-Mono is variable width Message-ID: <20190406154128.GA1786@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.3 (2019-02-01) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 35157 Cc: control@debbugs.gnu.org, 35157@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 35157 notabug close 35157 quit On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 08:32:13AM -0400, Devon Sean McCullough wrote: > In MacOSX Emacs: Options > Set Default Font... > Fixed Width > Osaka > > The "Osaka" font is misplaced in the "Fixed Width" collection: > spaces are narrower than letters and -> > <- tab is three numerals wide. > 0123456789 > Variable Width fonts shouldn’t be advertised as Fixed Width. Unfortunately that font selection dialogue is a macOS feature, not an Emacs one, so we’re not able to modify its behaviour. I can only assume that the font incorrectly identifies itself as fixed width. > P.S. Emacs shows characters like (insert ?\N{THUMBS UP SIGN}) 👍 as > blank space - surely some sort of visible glyph, fallback font or > highlight in the fashion of makefile-space would be better? If you install Symbola (http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/) then it should act as a fall‐back. -- Alan Third From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:52:05 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 05 May 2019 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator