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Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:06:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=sUqEPVzokC7HDPek22U/w51RHk0=; b=J4sTApmie+eR7Nk1 wSAJcIvNrNR5rfVKBBuUOTr6N+gtu9EoAoOiti7RsK97hLU1Bqi0qaXZ1L2OusW+ gIg5Uhc1YGN9VzhzfS4+5b4DQ0DWoyG7itIrjAVX8z2iHLSJbIBvtJqhTqL1Czpv 3uHIZZsfkzYvOIz2IMB60myuhq4= Received: from jidanni.org (111-246-96-69.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [111.246.96.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7216080960 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:06:02 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a37 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: mv: check before asking users useless questions Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:05:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87imw7lc8o.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrjeejgdehjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddurddvgeeirdeliedrieelnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepudduuddrvdegiedrleeirdeiledprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopegsuhhgqdgtohhrvghuthhilhhssehgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 23.83.214.38 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) $ mv a b mv: overwrite 'b'? y mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me? Full story: $ mkdir a $ touch b mv: overwrite 'b'? y mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' $ \mv a b mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' $ alias alias mv='mv -i' So even if -i is in effect, please do the check before asking users useless questions. 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Regards=20 =C2=A0Leslie Leslie Satenstein Montr=C3=A9al Qu=C3=A9bec, Canada =20 On Monday, March 25, 2019, 2:07:25 a.m. EDT, =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0= =BC Dan Jacobson wrote: =20 =20 $ mv a b mv: overwrite 'b'? y mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me? Full story: $ mkdir a $ touch b mv: overwrite 'b'? y mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' $ \mv a b mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' $ alias alias mv=3D'mv -i' So even if -i is in effect, please do the check before asking users useless questions. =20 ------=_Part_10946157_846342849.1553523032832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did you consider that more than one terminal can be open, and = at the second terminal, "b" could be renamed before replying to the mv comm= and?

=
Regards

 Leslie
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Montr=C3=A9al Qu=C3=A9bec, Canada

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On Monday, March 25, 2019, 2:07:25 a.m. EDT, =E7=A9=8D= =E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> wrote:


$ mv a b
mv= : overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwrite non-direc= tory 'b' with directory 'a'

User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me?
=

Full story:
$ mkdir a
$ touch b
mv: overwrite 'b'? y
mv: cannot overwri= te non-directory 'b' with directory 'a'
$ \mv a b=
mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with dire= ctory 'a'
$ alias
alias= mv=3D'mv -i'

So even = if -i is in effect, please do the check before asking users
useless questions.



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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87imw7lc8o.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34988 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 3/24/19 11:05 PM, =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson wrote: > $ mv a b > mv: overwrite 'b'? y > mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' > > User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me? POSIX requires the useless question. That being said, the question could be omitted in the case you describe, if POSIXLY_CORRECT is not specified. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 26 00:44:40 2019 Received: (at 34988) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2019 04:44:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8dx2-0006qT-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 00:44:40 -0400 Received: from goldenrod.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.74]:63284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8dwz-0006qF-5B for 34988@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 00:44:39 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC69D3E2435; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.39.118]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 883543E165E; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:44:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:44:35 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Spill-Dime: 2c7484407fdf28e1_1553575475719_980994003 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1553575475719:1846343538 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1553575475718 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D3F804D0; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=pTP2qrIbGnQUEzd5IT4x5T2oq2o=; b=Jt5IilpNzb7l+ 8T1UsGt1mTySFiDdmnH+CFiq3A3SNdKB83pWOX7IABOJYnR5IYvb4i1y5mwJ3NTN w3W3kYYNF2i03GfsqblUC5rAByYhj3w5hwW9zV5PLAznRSpRabv8pr6gPnMU44Y1 LedAVLLxZkjzwi92978bovBlYsTAAk= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-83-109.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.83.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a57.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16819804CD; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a57 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Leslie S Satenstein Subject: Re: bug#34988: mv: check before asking users useless questions References: <87imw7lc8o.fsf@jidanni.org> <6543334.10946158.1553523032834@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:44:30 +0800 Message-ID: <87pnqemehd.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrjeelgdejgecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppedurddujedtrdekfedruddtleenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedurddujedtrdekfedruddtledprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeefgeelkeekseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34988 Cc: 34988@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) >>>>> "LSS" == Leslie S Satenstein writes: LSS> Did you consider that more than one terminal can be open, and at the LSS> second terminal, "b" could be renamed before replying to the mv LSS> command? I don't know about all that. Let's hope the designers consider all aspects. 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[184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m25sm21618258pfa.175.2019.03.28.11.00.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2019 11:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#34988: mv: check before asking users useless questions To: Paul Eggert , =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNv?= =?UTF-8?Q?n?= , 34988@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87imw7lc8o.fsf@jidanni.org> <0b41ac38-532f-c6ff-2580-fb2eb2f42f1a@cs.ucla.edu> From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: <67b0167e-a789-290f-c8d8-16181fffe3d7@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:00:05 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0b41ac38-532f-c6ff-2580-fb2eb2f42f1a@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34988 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 34988 notabug severity 34988 wishlist retitle 34988 mv: omit useless 'overwrite?' question stop On 2019-03-25 4:47 p.m., Paul Eggert wrote: > On 3/24/19 11:05 PM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: >> $ mv a b >> mv: overwrite 'b'? y >> mv: cannot overwrite non-directory 'b' with directory 'a' >> >> User thinks well why didn't you check before uselessly asking me? > > POSIX requires the useless question. 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