From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eric Abrahamsen X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.155346535920820 (code B ref -1); Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:10:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2019 22:09:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57220 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIr-0005Pj-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIq-0005PX-0z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:16 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIk-0008St-Ur for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIi-0006HO-3O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52877) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIh-0008Ro-AW; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:07 -0400 Received: from lns-bzn-32-82-254-31-120.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.31.120]:54882 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h8BIg-0000IJ-Uh; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 18:09:07 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1AC4F1A606AC; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:09:05 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien Organization: GNU Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:09:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) <=(nil 6) gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) #f(compiled-function () #)() gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) funcall-interactively(gnus nil) call-interactively(gnus record nil) command-execute(gnus record) execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) command-execute(execute-extended-command) Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups of the same name in the group buffer, etc. To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. Thanks for your help, In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2019-03-24 built on guerry Repository revision: 36535caf9621f984f7f95d4def09bdb0ae2f1d2a Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS Recent messages: Checking new news...done Connecting to news... Reading active file...done Connecting to news...done Updating buffer list... Formats have changed, recompiling...done Updating buffer list...done Commands: m, u, t, RET, g, k, S, D, Q; q to quit; h for help Mark saved where search started Mark set Configured features: XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 XDBE XIM THREADS PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Debugger Minor modes in effect: eyebrowse-mode: t guide-key-mode: t pdf-occur-global-minor-mode: t hidden-mode-line-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t pixel-scroll-mode: t display-time-mode: t auto-insert-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t override-global-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t 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Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155347103229627 (code B ref 34983); Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2019 23:43:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8CmO-0007hn-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 19:43:52 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:39272 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8CmM-0007hb-0U for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 19:43:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated 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List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bastien writes: > I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. > > I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see > https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this > error: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) > <=(nil 6) > gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) > gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) > #f(compiled-function () #)() > gnus-1(nil nil nil) > gnus(nil) > funcall-interactively(gnus nil) > call-interactively(gnus record nil) > command-execute(gnus record) > execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") > funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") > call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) > command-execute(execute-extended-command) > > Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups > from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: > after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one > more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups > of the same name in the group buffer, etc. > > To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back > to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at > all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way > Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? > > Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry this is causing you Gnus outage.) First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? Thanks, Eric From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Deus Max Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eric Abrahamsen Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.1553473485843 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 00:24:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57294 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8DPw-0000DX-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:24:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:60225) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8DPv-0000DK-4M for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:24:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553473469; bh=xV8I2JwcK11MGjTiNkkepXeNUs4m8erX1pSh6I2dB7I=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kgrvpg2YT0MeLLkBKgBaP8FhGmDHzUWvFtlGN1Rz/TRzTYjY2kT/sVIeRMzSGwhKR 9flDSOjPNfXzWTxXQbVjaaVZR4+/ih9TzeD3YDOdr0zQE1b7Xqn85DBFrMHden68tl LoLfsmmzza+axmQ9d6U7zDsFZQ1j/eF846+HsBx0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([37.153.151.218]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MCcOw-1hHb4B0Xhq-009OS5; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:24:29 +0100 From: Deus Max References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:24:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 24 Mar 2019 16:43:43 -0700") Message-ID: <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:T5Y2NwjG3FJwkg3cdeLuuhgepycABC3/nPbw2DIck6HWrWdRg6C xsGJCq+dE6mwmOMw6df5IxidDl0gjBGVk1Vpub4RdwQ8w3z792wNv7FhEi+cdylvkViJO4m EdU4tQfj7cgyoXOoK849701vDWQXIwV/sBLKN37e39SoWOR0K+/g1j8IxQmdzVWhHo9CJu8 FR4+Oxl08vbhOCxgIJ3BA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:j0pPfCoL/9Q=:R2AGnqKS2CfwUSydhaq0e5 LUqxIRe/tN/RUR21+HGuoLDjFJKme20D51digLMgE3wi8JP1Yfp7NJObkKKr2O6fG6hvpPQHM hvS+MD+DN0U95uPvewiedlvhhKVNy8sPKkg7lKwpvoZedzgG/dNeY83uwprXTBOBt0GjdLHgj gJXu6k0r/fE3Q9CDLoWWJfm6T+HcmUuaDw63A4CvDv4LIsxADfBOSvNjpBUe12zYFcC+cL1xM kSFFHEQP5K5mSpb9EuOt+oaqrSyO3BTYz18Cx3EoxFUsgXIcNiiAT7Logc63I34LMd2/P80hx Pci990qLL+rGIP2NWKCFRkoGpiGk9W6ZhsauWvoUSJcZsTimk3zjc50UBggiBJbAZ4kP8Ldaa f/6fq3fq8WBBjOTXiVrfnvACl9d7Q2QmLcnL3ClHT+4TzTUGG2rifmj8MA1/2ciKpGmAfImfY jSBXouJiaIJMG1qvYShYHPzFMCxqu2lyq2F5AT1DcZpTHC6sxP8M5dRFoTfnpANdrEYLDof3J Q4hmV8HCSgxkRddSOE5odTqr/7dTda50tFWHyNX357DK1Unej88yEhZd5VbeyZfYK+ydgq338 17cpEb3xllC9qm5FtBZKvT28i8EuPsAe6sfZEVQnZ24K2M5Q/DLeDetqpMydflazgRaS5f2YT jJo4BEU/r/8QsCMupEI6goQ7pAKKBefNJf/Dg/podLsVivsVwewBIzkPSZW5fLYWeASC3pSRv 5yrkvIg6/FYlJTWW1ZnCj2UpDn/91if3qybrs3vBEygyfQUdLgZwTMMQR9AFKOIFb+026KB7r vrmIkzlTUHg6vKgSf6P0sS54EHxOMm9KHeqpF/Yi6GBBCnK6DgINZNEEarqVcc1emqsnrx7D9 +DxnQj1Us9KBxAbXUpkZ8VIWqAL9HgT9zi9QFpGP7QsbjQNrQcteq3KXSSuE9UKmRYli2nYOI O3penuYW5pw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Bastien writes: > >> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >> >> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this >> error: >> >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) >> <=(nil 6) >> gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) >> gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) >> #f(compiled-function () #)() >> gnus-1(nil nil nil) >> gnus(nil) >> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) >> call-interactively(gnus record nil) >> command-execute(gnus record) >> execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") >> funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") >> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) >> command-execute(execute-extended-command) >> >> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups >> from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: >> after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one >> more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups >> of the same name in the group buffer, etc. >> >> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back >> to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at >> all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way >> Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >> >> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. > > This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, > and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus > may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't > think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry > this is causing you Gnus outage.) > > First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? > Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in > .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? > Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in literal byte sequences in them. Here's an example: "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make bootstrap", 3 days ago (and today). From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Deus Max Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15534742291958 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 00:37:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Dbx-0000VW-2G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:37:09 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:39364 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Dbu-0000V1-40 for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 20:37:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43B42FA02A; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:37:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1553474220; bh=UKNd0r+Z1g3aBinBRWNzrq+fODQNL3CrEzsaUdAfzW8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=uhEab8d59LJh+n7+yxKSP8h6pKOSyZJoMNZeZ4DVrQR99EEkqAmROI18rDk9XGeAC gfqTEx0Jr2YCT2rAfr8VvCTc0r8zuYz7QToqQtVLnEUW9m2MhNqyBfqEAvCInI6Pyx zcLoaMP07IwL/cTcXKXwYlcyhdIaG0kA1nPv+8/U= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 17:36:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:24:24 +0200") Message-ID: <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Deus Max writes: > On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >>> >>> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >>> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this >>> error: >>> >>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) >>> <=(nil 6) >>> gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) >>> gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) >>> #f(compiled-function () #)() >>> gnus-1(nil nil nil) >>> gnus(nil) >>> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) >>> call-interactively(gnus record nil) >>> command-execute(gnus record) >>> execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") >>> funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") >>> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) >>> command-execute(execute-extended-command) >>> >>> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups >>> from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: >>> after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one >>> more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups >>> of the same name in the group buffer, etc. >>> >>> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back >>> to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at >>> all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way >>> Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >>> >>> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. >> >> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, >> and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus >> may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't >> think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry >> this is causing you Gnus outage.) >> >> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? >> Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in >> .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? >> > Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in literal > byte sequences in them. Here's an example: > "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" > > Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make bootstrap", 3 > days ago (and today). Actually, I'm fairly sure that that's how Gnus has always done it, and I tried not to disturb that. But obviously I've done something wrong along the way and I think one part of Gnus is using a decoded version of the group name, and another part is using the encoded version. Are you seeing duplicate group names? Would you check (text-properties-at (line-beginning-position)) on both of the duplicated groups, and tell me the value of the 'gnus-group property' for both? Thanks, Eric From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Deus Max Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 05:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15534902952713 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 05:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 05:04:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57394 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Hn5-0000hh-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:04:55 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:38475) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Hn3-0000hT-5f for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 01:04:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553490279; bh=6Xbv1i2gn6EE97OfuyyJXijw7zcQfSW6/a2pPNdZW7s=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Ig2kL8gV3YbI54SPpjEcGsLJ8+RgpC04L6aTYjxClK7nQMA8tQOWeVQMS88LnZ8oM lbAJZlxDN0jmoplGeIFbE0Yp5xzz0EkatAH8aBil+EVpZwVXbLcSWMb/P2DxgllND0 L1QuB35M1xcnBpdu4C/mEKgFc2/fVV3hXtpEEcjo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([37.153.151.218]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mcxtm-1hQMrt1E4Q-00I9YA; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:04:39 +0100 From: Deus Max References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:04:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 24 Mar 2019 17:36:59 -0700") Message-ID: <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YpvjtM9XGVlKmxEJli1PdM5787b/9EjcY1VyYxj30RAO+McfZ9P tK5vHJN3E9vWQLSWI6+mue4rtnbboCL8ImsDp9EVEvi1uVPJVxtxSc/jop26IUmTE4U6RPE WfC1roHHwF8TmFHLeac3kVGaSk7AbSdW0J2YYGJM8pfei7/PWdj7/7iLk9o2YAKgIt1T1g8 JaDyflD9k5rzNz73OBpDw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CXWi2SuTT2I=:1E1PkKmezdpJn8awdDLfHx xo1eVVVunnkapL6mj6nPvxJZs2IPKSreg8kKHlR2VQLB6yLUef5htsA0UaQ0pjeASQP+AW30w u8cPvwCsPO7n4jtzC7UmkPdCO699hineKJhzxNs6QQUVDfQeSJCYtjWpgHS5Lt8xvkCq1dJ/T EGKc+w6BI565YUbdCWCqCxi706mE40no3FwXYooMZXUQ23okSSFZGaVUqvipjW5JVfRZjm3Ip Nsxx/VLgD4lzJAqQcovyPWE8+dYJYhKsS7+yMvm6K7ZemzTKovmJyvHW2nF+70mHI9iQbJ2nZ AdyGK9DjoQk08YLIA2h8HlZ9ejU59j1R33OtrTbslSj9EXf8kM1pGfSELArosrX3Xe8kxzOlg ywEaG20np0b9yETcLjJ7+IRSHQNq0gf7HMquBqJ8XJawY2q0u6YCweQXrJVWMCG5lxjpQxipo 8BXYPRt+OUmxAuDMkLYnHqr8yIUXVIGjJvXiYllU6TB0osEQ/7RfrYfwraGHtG6rOkFjJOz8R VMaJXRhnoLkFAlzCcRGR8JsRPtdZgtDznvHMHLYnpO+9FkvHrerC3oip3/u0Z2lbi3nwud26/ Q67986BJSBO12n7XfAXiVALwjL+7o0xp8VgWE7l+c0Penpww8bBS6bDMC+sLEHDqwxu+Cum4E VkRjS+JCngXRJ5NFFlfWnlkL6xdhWHfMxvOapiwZ1XQJVaO3d5PwUAdlxOZb1/AQVn1Ffw4ff 07TgAl3/QLbH4F5vvUfIbCl/faekn9+QlTPYOOIhccDp2+e1Evgqir6fBvy+INeJ4YQkOB2Kk wCOrtcdsL8elp2q0b/3wcMogJ3t2h1zsixyR/sy3TA5Mhs8/12+rh9Z+5VTVfaTOJYyZqNz3q ME4Mm/Z1U8WCp9xrQbR5JYGwkHRyydT09/VMzfpCaqDpWrrWuR7zIt6AwHTJVjWW1UvYdmVBd zCj60Pg1Aqg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Deus Max writes: > >> On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Bastien writes: >>> >>>> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >>>> >>>> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >>>> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this >>>> error: >>>> >>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) >>>> <=(nil 6) >>>> gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) >>>> gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) >>>> #f(compiled-function () #)() >>>> gnus-1(nil nil nil) >>>> gnus(nil) >>>> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) >>>> call-interactively(gnus record nil) >>>> command-execute(gnus record) >>>> execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>> funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) >>>> command-execute(execute-extended-command) >>>> >>>> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups >>>> from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: >>>> after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one >>>> more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups >>>> of the same name in the group buffer, etc. >>>> >>>> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back >>>> to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at >>>> all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way >>>> Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >>>> >>>> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. >>> >>> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, >>> and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus >>> may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't >>> think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry >>> this is causing you Gnus outage.) >>> >>> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? >>> Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in >>> .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? >>> >> Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in literal >> byte sequences in them. Here's an example: >> "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" >> >> Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make bootstrap", 3 >> days ago (and today). > > Actually, I'm fairly sure that that's how Gnus has always done it, and I > tried not to disturb that. But obviously I've done something wrong along > the way and I think one part of Gnus is using a decoded version of the > group name, and another part is using the encoded version. > > Are you seeing duplicate group names? Would you check > (text-properties-at (line-beginning-position)) on both of the duplicated > groups, and tell me the value of the 'gnus-group property' for both? > > Thanks, > Eric I didn't see any duplicate groups in my .newsrc.eld file. Output on above nnimap group (with literal byte sequences) is: (fontified t) From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start In-Reply-To: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155349579212689 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 06:36:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57444 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8JDj-0003Ia-KU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:36:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8JDi-0003IO-F1 for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:36:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8JDc-00076I-Ll; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:36:24 -0400 Received: from lns-bzn-32-82-254-31-120.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.31.120]:48748 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h8JDb-00006Z-MW; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:36:24 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 06BDF1A606B5; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:36:22 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:36:21 +0100 Message-ID: <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Eric, good luck with fixing this. Eric Abrahamsen writes: > This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, > and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus > may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't > think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry > this is causing you Gnus outage.) > > First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? No. I regularily build Emacs from the master branch but I only use `make' to compile it then. I had no idea I had to `make bootstrap'. Why was it necessary after your commit? > Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in > .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? There is no literal byte sequence in the .newsrc.eld file that I was able to backup, right after I got this Gnus initialization error. Now I recompiled an Emacs from before your commit. Starting with my backup does trigger this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) intern(nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...]) gnus-make-hashtable-from-newsrc-alist() gnus-read-newsrc-el-file("/home/guerry/.newsrc.el") gnus-read-newsrc-file(nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) #f(compiled-function () #)() gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) funcall-interactively(gnus nil) call-interactively(gnus record nil) command-execute(gnus record) execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) command-execute(execute-extended-command) ... so I suspect I did not save my .newsrc.eld in time to properly use it with a stable Emacs (too bad). I hope I will be able to find my group subscriptions and my marks. I'm trying to better understand a few things, can you educate me? What is the Gnus "active" file? Where is it on my computer? What is the .newsrc.eld file? What is the difference between .newsrc.eld and the active file? Thanks, -- Bastien From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Colin Baxter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Deus Max Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155349778815774 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 07:09:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Jjv-00046M-Ph for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 03:09:48 -0400 Received: from forward102o.mail.yandex.net ([37.140.190.182]:43734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Jjr-000463-NN for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 03:09:46 -0400 Received: from mxback5o.mail.yandex.net (mxback5o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::1f]) by forward102o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CF546668108E; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:09:31 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4j.mail.yandex.net (smtp4j.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1619::15:6]) by mxback5o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 9bE5gQ71jT-9VOGjjgf; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:09:31 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1553497771; bh=qA+ObKR5QBlPL1iSbJpT550PcruyeBXxAOHVdp77I8Q=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Cc:Cc:Date:References:Message-ID; b=gDVENwc8pI7nApRuncf6K2b+bb12gzpKl9UImsFsXlQNrW3mPqD9ocWqGfoxabsgY tcFRqs9QXIWZ03YgonvRdtxFiuSs69hFDp5j8v1Th84m/dCrkwIRNXRK2WAbXQ8wbH E4UjE59KwR0VKCvRGl6l83B9c69F/qYV4dMt8BgM= Authentication-Results: mxback5o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Received: by smtp4j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id glHhS9iH6w-9UbKin1o; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:09:30 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) From: Colin Baxter References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:09:29 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:04:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAA8AAAAPCAIAAAC0tAIdAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA HUlEQVQokWP4jxU0NPxnYMBETAykgFHVo6qprxoAukEeACpHxqwAAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> Deus Max writes: > On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Deus Max writes: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>> >>>> Bastien writes: >>>> >>>>> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >>>>> >>>>> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >>>>> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got >>>>> this error: >>>>> >>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument >>>>> number-or-marker-p nil) <=(nil 6) gnus-get-unread-articles(nil >>>>> nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) #f(compiled-function () >>>>> #)() gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) >>>>> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) call-interactively(gnus record >>>>> nil) command-execute(gnus record) execute-extended-command(nil >>>>> "gnus" "gnus") funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command >>>>> nil "gnus" "gnus") call-interactively(execute-extended-command >>>>> nil nil) command-execute(execute-extended-command) >>>>> >>>>> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local >>>>> groups from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another >>>>> weird behavior: after leaving the summary buffer, the group I >>>>> just left is listed one more time; if I enter the group and >>>>> leave it again, I get three groups of the same name in the >>>>> group buffer, etc. >>>>> >>>>> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to >>>>> revert back to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to >>>>> read my .newsrc.eld at all. Is it possible that recent >>>>> changes against Gnus changed the way Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >>>>> >>>>> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus >>>>> recently. >>>> >>>> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the >>>> patch, and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At >>>> worst I think Gnus may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the >>>> wrong encoding, so I don't think you will have lost anything >>>> permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry this is causing you Gnus >>>> outage.) >>>> >>>> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new >>>> version? Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names >>>> are being saved in .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have >>>> literal byte sequences in them? >>>> >>> Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in >>> literal byte sequences in them. Here's an example: >>> "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" >>> >>> Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make >>> bootstrap", 3 days ago (and today). >> >> Actually, I'm fairly sure that that's how Gnus has always done >> it, and I tried not to disturb that. But obviously I've done >> something wrong along the way and I think one part of Gnus is >> using a decoded version of the group name, and another part is >> using the encoded version. >> >> Are you seeing duplicate group names? Would you check >> (text-properties-at (line-beginning-position)) on both of the >> duplicated groups, and tell me the value of the 'gnus-group >> property' for both? >> >> Thanks, Eric > I didn't see any duplicate groups in my .newsrc.eld file. Output > on above nnimap group (with literal byte sequences) is: (fontified > t) Sorry to butt in, but I have a slightly different gnus issue with Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5) of 2019-03-24. Before building, I had deleted all the .elc files in lisp/gnus. When I launch gnus it fetches the gmane news and imap mail satisfactory, but throws a warning on nnrss feeds I've not seen before: Warning: Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:AnnPhys" 2059 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:ProcRSocA" 141 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y I don't get this warning using emacs-26.1. I'm using Debian 3.16.59-1 (2018-10-03) i686 GNU/Linux. Best wishes, Colin. -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start In-Reply-To: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Colin Baxter Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15535112785517 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 10:54:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8NFU-0001Qv-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:54:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8NFS-0001Qg-KJ for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:54:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33435) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8NFM-0003nc-MT; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:54:28 -0400 Received: from [185.24.184.132] (port=60460 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h8NFM-0002lu-87; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:54:28 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E6931A60266; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:54:26 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien Organization: GNU References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:54:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Colin Baxter writes: > Warning: Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:AnnPhys" 2059 1 y; Warning - > invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - invalid active: > "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; > Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:ProcRSocA" 141 1 y; Warning - invalid > active: "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y FWIW, I also had the same kind of warnings with 27.0.50. -- Bastien From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Colin Baxter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155351669821580 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 12:24:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Oeu-0005by-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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>> Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - invalid >> active: "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: >> "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:ProcRSocA" >> 141 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y > FWIW, I also had the same kind of warnings with 27.0.50. > -- Bastien Thanks. Sorry you had earlier mentioned this. Best wishes, Colin. -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:07:46 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:36:21 +0100") Message-ID: <87va07f6fx.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bastien writes: > I'm trying to better understand a few things, can you educate me? > > What is the Gnus "active" file? It is like an index; see (info "(gnus) The Active File"). > Where is it on my computer? I believe it lives on the remote server, and is perhaps/probably cached during operation and depending on your configuration. > What is the .newsrc.eld file? A Gnus startup file; see (info "(gnus) Startup Files"). > What is the difference between .newsrc.eld and the active file? The former locally records personal state, whereas the latter remotely records server state. Disclaimer: this is just my shallow understanding as a user, not an expert. -- Basil From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Colin Baxter Cc: Bastien , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15535252503023 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 14:47:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Qss-0000mg-6t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:47:30 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40708 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Qsq-0000mS-2J for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:47:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48F9DFA02B; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:47:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1553525242; bh=XhBcsG+DgQrHxE+WdrWKKJ4SNQ9cmtPyqA2Kv+PrUFA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RwW5TPPunKSQ1xoNH4VFSNv2HEWiN8f8t2HZlRRLH8IUJIkpT8rZiO2DbA2cbj25G I3BH+i7pd3oHlZ5vu4LG0lyGAicG2RPheMonFVYXtEr5CUqPqPOrr9MSIAnSl8njds fSeqpN0fjCUARq9aRRS6mIfJP9/N4yrdY6zZ4/0w= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:47:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:24:42 +0000") Message-ID: <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 03/25/19 12:24 PM, Colin Baxter wrote: >>>>>> Bastien writes: > > > Hello, Colin Baxter writes: > > >> Warning: Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:AnnPhys" 2059 1 y; > >> Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - invalid > >> active: "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: > >> "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:ProcRSocA" > >> 141 1 y; Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y > > > FWIW, I also had the same kind of warnings with 27.0.50. This part of the bug, thankfully, is fairly simple, and I think the attached patch will fix it. Will one or more of you apply this and give it a shot? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnus-active-fix.patch diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el index f1202e176e..8c2411f4d9 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el @@ -4029,7 +4029,7 @@ gnus-group-list-active (insert " *: " (gnus-group-decoded-name group) "\n")) - (list 'gnus-group (gethash group gnus-active-hashtb) + (list 'gnus-group group 'gnus-unread t 'gnus-level (inline (gnus-group-level group))))) (goto-char (point-min)))) diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el index 82141e0221..5a78df9fe4 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el @@ -2145,9 +2145,12 @@ gnus-active-to-gnus-format (condition-case () (if (and (stringp (progn (setq group (read cur) - group (if (numberp group) - (number-to-string group) - (symbol-name group))))) + group (cond ((numberp group) + (number-to-string group)) + ((symbolp group) + (symbol-name group)) + ((stringp group) + group))))) (numberp (setq max (read cur))) (numberp (setq min (read cur))) (null (progn --=-=-=-- From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15535259384029 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 14:58:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8R3y-00012u-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:58:58 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40722 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8R3w-00012h-DH for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:58:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D69FFA02B; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:58:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1553525931; bh=zSatA4HmLf4DZ6LJRDYE0CwsffpsuQxMBnpZKUfqucs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=UOyc4KlUw4ZekikJR8xhMkHUAorW6LKC8GOBMVROwxkPQtuT5NpkEPCVUP5ztfDSD Hphn3wqORDxUo05cWaMMwiYZxfblE4Kjox7wE8qRkkIvOKcuQM3BxJMhiSYzR5jTNg gdtmZ8jAuCPLW/unWTdUGXVwsEsZ6RqiN53xkMvE= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:58:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:36:21 +0100") Message-ID: <87k1gnhufq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 03/25/19 07:36 AM, Bastien wrote: > Hi Eric, > > good luck with fixing this. > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, >> and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus >> may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't >> think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry >> this is causing you Gnus outage.) >> >> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? > > No. I regularily build Emacs from the master branch but I only use > `make' to compile it then. I had no idea I had to `make bootstrap'. > Why was it necessary after your commit? My commit changed the definition of some macros, and some *elc files with the older definitions are still hanging around. This does happen from time to time when you're running master, though in this case it coincides with a real bug. You can also just delete all the *elc files in lisp/gnus and run regular "make". This will fix some of the problems you're seeing, though from the backtrace below and your previous report it looks like you've also maybe got a literal "nil" as a group name in your newsrc.eld. >> Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in >> .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? > > There is no literal byte sequence in the .newsrc.eld file that I was > able to backup, right after I got this Gnus initialization error. But there are group names with properly-encoded non-ascii names? There shouldn't be, which is why I'm curious. > Now I recompiled an Emacs from before your commit. Starting with my > backup does trigger this error: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > intern(nil [0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...]) > gnus-make-hashtable-from-newsrc-alist() > gnus-read-newsrc-el-file("/home/guerry/.newsrc.el") > gnus-read-newsrc-file(nil) > gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) > #f(compiled-function () #)() > gnus-1(nil nil nil) > gnus(nil) > funcall-interactively(gnus nil) > call-interactively(gnus record nil) > command-execute(gnus record) > execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") > funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") > call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) > command-execute(execute-extended-command) > > ... so I suspect I did not save my .newsrc.eld in time to properly use > it with a stable Emacs (too bad). > > I hope I will be able to find my group subscriptions and my marks. I don't think you will have lost any data! There's probably just a bogus group name or two in your newsrc.eld file which is preventing Gnus from starting up. If you feel comfortable doing this, would you send me your .newsrc.eld file off list? Sorry for this train wreck... > I'm trying to better understand a few things, can you educate me? > > What is the Gnus "active" file? > Where is it on my computer? > What is the .newsrc.eld file? > What is the difference between .newsrc.eld and the active file? Basil's explanations are correct, I'll just add that you've only got one.newsrc.eld file, recording marks for all the groups you're subscribed to, but each of your backends produces its own active file, saying what groups it contains, and what the newest messages are. For nntp you request it from the server. For nnml it lives on your computer (I think it goes under (concat gnus-home-directory "News/")). For nnimap, the server sends Gnus a list of groups and Gnus munges the list into something that *looks* like an active file. Gnus knows if you have new mail by comparing the active file information with your.newsrc.eld information. Eric From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Deus Max Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15535260954371 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 15:01:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8R6U-00018Q-Vz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:01:35 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:40728 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8R6T-00018E-UT for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:01:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B8BBFA02B; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:01:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1553526088; bh=sZnfPrdYRwfRIRVbbzCPggf4MKuKb8sILFZ8j2eDrcQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZZNOUxbzj2uVqNEHuQvge+KJt+lZs5y8TMPOJycuSbERdY6JYvVLtqnkey1Lo/5ad 3aaB6bizY5Yi/RPAEbpHvIgf0QKz7R/7+SJfQewvbOsujoyZ8Nir0+h0I56tfpUHb6 Zg+6Nct45mcBt2qlQqARm5CTcLRABElQA6BiLpes= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:01:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:04:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftrbhubd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 03/25/19 07:04 AM, Deus Max wrote: > On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> Deus Max writes: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>> >>>> Bastien writes: >>>> >>>>> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >>>>> >>>>> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >>>>> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this >>>>> error: >>>>> >>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) >>>>> <=(nil 6) >>>>> gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) >>>>> gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) >>>>> #f(compiled-function () #)() >>>>> gnus-1(nil nil nil) >>>>> gnus(nil) >>>>> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) >>>>> call-interactively(gnus record nil) >>>>> command-execute(gnus record) >>>>> execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>>> funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>>> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) >>>>> command-execute(execute-extended-command) >>>>> >>>>> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups >>>>> from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: >>>>> after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one >>>>> more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups >>>>> of the same name in the group buffer, etc. >>>>> >>>>> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back >>>>> to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at >>>>> all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way >>>>> Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >>>>> >>>>> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. >>>> >>>> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, >>>> and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus >>>> may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't >>>> think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry >>>> this is causing you Gnus outage.) >>>> >>>> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? >>>> Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in >>>> .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? >>>> >>> Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in literal >>> byte sequences in them. Here's an example: >>> "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" >>> >>> Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make bootstrap", 3 >>> days ago (and today). >> >> Actually, I'm fairly sure that that's how Gnus has always done it, and I >> tried not to disturb that. But obviously I've done something wrong along >> the way and I think one part of Gnus is using a decoded version of the >> group name, and another part is using the encoded version. >> >> Are you seeing duplicate group names? Would you check >> (text-properties-at (line-beginning-position)) on both of the duplicated >> groups, and tell me the value of the 'gnus-group property' for both? >> >> Thanks, >> Eric > > I didn't see any duplicate groups in my .newsrc.eld file. > Output on above nnimap group (with literal byte sequences) is: > (fontified t) Sorry, I meant duplicate groups appearing in your *Group* buffer, not your.newsrc.eld file. From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Colin Baxter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Bastien , , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.15535274286372 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 15:23:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8RS0-0001eh-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:23:48 -0400 Received: from forward106p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.109]:43111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8RRx-0001eU-Qo for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:23:47 -0400 Received: from mxback12j.mail.yandex.net (mxback12j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::87]) by forward106p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DA1441C81650; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:23:38 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (smtp1p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:6]) by mxback12j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id ctPIn83OOC-NcF8dNGd; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:23:38 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1553527418; bh=2TY3JtHS/Ky5DlKurhjgQyt1D8jI6TZcaLxlGWlP+CU=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Cc:Cc:Date:References:Message-ID; b=Kpy0c3CveoMYrs5WF5ys7WAr/tktfXdUKm3tEALt/CPnt0JOGiK+stdwLGniUd8FP QX12vZ1y8U+545Vdv1XLklJBY2mxi6On+A2XMIOe5eap6ahcNZ/ilcEYNm5x59dwD8 G1foZZ15vWKzEkN97DyVK9JsaAa/gzG9y7iR48no= Authentication-Results: mxback12j.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Received: by smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id hovZh8XYaV-NaTi98EL; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:23:36 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) From: Colin Baxter References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:23:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:47:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADwAAAAQCAIAAADF8ItoAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAB IElEQVRIie1VIU4EQRCs6ptFHYI/YAgGBBKBw+LAoXgCgoCC8IhTOHBYHAKJAEMw/IJTJNuNWGbn xHSfgFzY5ErtTlVtVTqzM8TaKQAAq+OVl8djAOs7Ezg4PNi4Otv12Ieji/Hba5Wabm7t3156xvPr p7v7d4/9eD4BsL138zn96lbEk/5nLEsvCmn2xczm6S3QGAyosxYaPZfXKoF52JSmaboHzy+SfjQ1 jCgj0qMCo0gKQkurrElAHyMi3Wo9GADIrKllk+J4JTSCDEKzUXrNIPf0svSikFD+TW3bFgCC88Gy pgY1U8erZoHRTIPQbCyaBGi2aqG9r+uc0h43p7RqEJpHWTQD3R4zGMrlMtRJ96c6f3m5kKTj5R9c LkXzDYbegcyCYrhCAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: > On 03/25/19 12:24 PM, Colin Baxter wrote: >>>>>>> Bastien writes: >> >> > Hello, Colin Baxter writes: >> >> >> Warning: Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:AnnPhys" 2059 1 y; >> >> Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - >> invalid >> active: "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: >> >> "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; Warning - invalid active: >> "nnrss:ProcRSocA" >> 141 1 y; Warning - invalid active: >> "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y >> >> > FWIW, I also had the same kind of warnings with 27.0.50. > This part of the bug, thankfully, is fairly simple, and I think > the attached patch will fix it. Will one or more of you apply this > and give it a shot? Ok, I've applied the patch to emacs-27.0.50 and gnus opens the nnrss feeds satisfactorily - as it does with my other newsgroups and the imap emails. There are no errors or warnings at all. I did `make clean' and deleted lisp/gnus/*.elc files before the final `make', so I may have gone overboard in the build. Best wishes, Colin. -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Colin Baxter Cc: Bastien , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155353397718474 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:12:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58606 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8T9d-0004nu-BP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:12:57 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:41042 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8T9c-0004ni-0k for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:12:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-113-60-14.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.60.14]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A130FA02A; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:12:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1553533970; bh=Oi5IOqqag5KHNsaL9D1bNk2msOnKXZ7/tAJncREIzmA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PWQbRhT52d2gSM7UoTriT23mnpNCY54ExtLpmYWGXJBB8KdIfJXawEiJYlj6vmZgf MZeHWTIunpHSUySGSWT/uHXcxvLtatlD3yigLuatljiQ/tQFqIX5KkQfQEXqgKLtF/ D3Qn9T+psDAxTQIarIV1k7BYKkAiX3j+rDDLUrPQ= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:12:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:23:35 +0000") Message-ID: <874l7qj2sv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > > On 03/25/19 12:24 PM, Colin Baxter wrote: > >>>>>>> Bastien writes: > >> > >> > Hello, Colin Baxter writes: > >> > >> >> Warning: Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:AnnPhys" 2059 1 y; > >> >> Warning - invalid active: "nnrss:JMO" 284 1 y; Warning - > >> invalid >> active: "nnrss:PRA" 307 1 y; Warning - invalid active: > >> >> "nnrss:PRL" 852 1 y; Warning - invalid active: > >> "nnrss:ProcRSocA" >> 141 1 y; Warning - invalid active: > >> "nnrss:JPhysA" 133 1 y > >> > >> > FWIW, I also had the same kind of warnings with 27.0.50. > > > This part of the bug, thankfully, is fairly simple, and I think > > the attached patch will fix it. Will one or more of you apply this > > and give it a shot? > > Ok, I've applied the patch to emacs-27.0.50 and gnus opens the nnrss feeds > satisfactorily - as it does with my other newsgroups and the imap > emails. There are no errors or warnings at all. I did `make clean' and > deleted lisp/gnus/*.elc files before the final `make', so I may have > gone overboard in the build. There's no such thing as overboard when you're cleaning out dead files! From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Deus Max Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155353595921762 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:45:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Tfb-0005ev-36 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:45:59 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:41119) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TfZ-0005ej-CJ for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:45:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553535943; bh=TcY6y++l8dogq3F26iJuQIP72y5yNOkfJCwMC5/Xkjk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lE4teLXos6Pzu9w4iW9tkgYJ7KemtOqSGixLE9t8KN1hZU8Hxj7cNLKKA2FpsRd13 hY7YTQhcaOn6DcJsENt/ss+iQ9sjaAtpkcH+Lb7nibUBWJB5ErmOOxspZcJWbMwPIf eECf97kFLv5HFFZW1itjYFZjqNi6l3ydsX9uioAE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([37.153.151.218]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lz3rc-1gvV8J1QZM-01493O; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:45:43 +0100 From: Deus Max References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87ftrbhubd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:45:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ftrbhubd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:01:26 -0700") Message-ID: <87va06sv98.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rmQLSbQJk0ulY19yMOSVf8Ig2ZYyD8jxbzQRHsRHg+G+zJhcJ0g c8uYLaJhvPuMm30N5midE6kZ0NoucXiQwLBsVVrc82cATxBtLxETeIjl2JOwWJShl06A/XL VXT1Sm0nvMWgykDDX9qQJ25yZFnBkpxtoDNBuT54cGLBbKBdh2NISnfdjteiz2J3QtqI1GG vMcH9E0lHnQ2wqp+lPG8w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:yt2Z0r6eDx4=:Dxma+6g8DLeNP12UW6fTuJ oAiTwEt+VqgdBGk2dFL34WHVrQUDz7Te82IYmZV+MgpnX4OHfUL8uxJQiBFHBJr8vs54fTMw+ 9OdBK0AwD11LLSIDv4/4g1fTDrr4VTGbgbilSS3XaoaqL5BMVhX8d3a0KHZ99WhRJue1hcHHf 3Z2ZJBfR8Bbmq2fNfXNapAlxsOpcykTVJ0bYtiksqKfPwwujwPh0Z4avsA/UX8MXtnPSdi0Mo 88uSJP+8woW1RAf3NxBlFYSh3uUW1J228R4gpgzD/0BW9IxN6JyXxrIRLmipJqSIYBXc+I/Fj SE4bMcjU4VvU8eXGmm5VxuV3Jm6IBZyf3oLW462m2DeD2W9zvg+QPSHkpzoeSejUI9JJqN9Bf gLaiPqdCzycJPsVGijx6mzgMgHMgJDMTRCVL+6hcPuDvPZ5HeeqUom/xW84R7KjwDec/pzUwB TUY3Q5zeiFUa9pVsTRYpRFVSnhpLJRLXqSuUaUz6/ELSwHaAU2OxHZV4p0ZmVatF93UlIZB3l 4uiWVOJMpjW8bEy/rpJjNoyicUf2qyMAx26u4NZA29cZqkJhv/w85fZHD6+MPgU6JiXE+ecYm HVvdslx4dLCV/KhPj5/dr9xg05wUGa7d65PESzecTpDf0TEOkxpcIMd5L6+GE/FqcH1DrQAER YG2HxNoy7zJAuc32PZVz9CEe7ofFfWOqcCt9pNeClt82ndRaA1RIQHMm0liAxsn2dlbbPmRpg yj65GS/tlfj4zwCvrZKkL/rKIo9nlgDP9w88tZchJlvRm88WMKs+X6mYfrA9RCLA0ZNjLBk0s CbMS8EHwsOa8/3XZpij3QMmv6VuMVENYGyY/YKOsuF0O1MTWeSGLyQS2CgmuJy3lMKwWn4sSk 45KB18W8qWAAxEEvHubhz6GdDwkdeczr5yZfERi9CJlvs4nK6lisMOqRC5xKwzTRep0syi2WA y+k87bBh6Pg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Mon, Mar 25 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > On 03/25/19 07:04 AM, Deus Max wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Deus Max writes: >>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 24 2019, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bastien writes: >>>>> >>>>>> I checked out and buil Emacs from master today 24-03-2019. >>>>>> >>>>>> I started Gnus using my usual configuration (see >>>>>> https://github.com/bzg/dotemacs/blob/master/emacs.el) and got this >>>>>> error: >>>>>> >>>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) >>>>>> <=(nil 6) >>>>>> gnus-get-unread-articles(nil nil) >>>>>> gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) >>>>>> #f(compiled-function () #)() >>>>>> gnus-1(nil nil nil) >>>>>> gnus(nil) >>>>>> funcall-interactively(gnus nil) >>>>>> call-interactively(gnus record nil) >>>>>> command-execute(gnus record) >>>>>> execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>>>> funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnus") >>>>>> call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) >>>>>> command-execute(execute-extended-command) >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting Gnus *without* a .newsrc.eld file, I can list local groups >>>>>> from my dovecot local IMAP server, but I get another weird behavior: >>>>>> after leaving the summary buffer, the group I just left is listed one >>>>>> more time; if I enter the group and leave it again, I get three groups >>>>>> of the same name in the group buffer, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> To read Gnus using my .newsrc.eld file again, I tried to revert back >>>>>> to Emacs 26.0.92 but now Emacs seems unable to read my .newsrc.eld at >>>>>> all. Is it possible that recent changes against Gnus changed the way >>>>>> Gnus parses .newsrc.eld? >>>>>> >>>>>> Copying Eric, as he seems to have been active on Gnus recently. >>>>> >>>>> This is frustrating -- this was the most important part of the patch, >>>>> and the part I thought I'd tested most thoroughly. At worst I think Gnus >>>>> may be trying to read .newsrc.eld using the wrong encoding, so I don't >>>>> think you will have lost anything permanently. (Still, I'm very sorry >>>>> this is causing you Gnus outage.) >>>>> >>>>> First -- did you run "make bootstrap" before running this new version? >>>>> Second, can you tell me if your non-ascii group names are being saved in >>>>> .newsrc.eld in utf-8, or if they have literal byte sequences in them? >>>>> >>>> Confirm for me, non-ascii group names are now being saved in literal >>>> byte sequences in them. Here's an example: >>>> "nnimap+AIA:Union/\316\224\316\243-\316\243\317\211\316\274\316\261\317\204\316\265\316\257\316\277\317\205" >>>> >>>> Didn't have any such issues before. Compiled using "make bootstrap", 3 >>>> days ago (and today). >>> >>> Actually, I'm fairly sure that that's how Gnus has always done it, and I >>> tried not to disturb that. But obviously I've done something wrong along >>> the way and I think one part of Gnus is using a decoded version of the >>> group name, and another part is using the encoded version. >>> >>> Are you seeing duplicate group names? Would you check >>> (text-properties-at (line-beginning-position)) on both of the duplicated >>> groups, and tell me the value of the 'gnus-group property' for both? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >> >> I didn't see any duplicate groups in my .newsrc.eld file. >> Output on above nnimap group (with literal byte sequences) is: >> (fontified t) > > Sorry, I meant duplicate groups appearing in your *Group* buffer, not > your.newsrc.eld file. Yes, I have this weirdness under "Deleted Items". On my web interface there is only the top-most group, with no subgroups as "Greek Holidays". As for the subgroup name with the long hash attached, I would never have created such a group name. it is an artefact. From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Deus Max Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155353659022826 (code B ref 34983); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:56:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Tpm-0005w5-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:56:30 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:37891) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Tpl-0005vr-Hx for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:56:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553536575; bh=s5V8Jk1WCVYn7lhSAFofOkCBeu++Z6luOBimdC0YiQg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=iV5mhHpvl6zGfI+giojXP0cnmQQCrx6PjxzGcAxgTlyq0i22rafAdVfWUx1R77vEV uJuaFzxEhAZQLFqv4WEYazqnNvaxQwv5taNg+AEDL8nVfA1sHFH3h92Pp5tiywQaJh tjr9E4rgCSW5oII3Fo9wDrCm0bpGON1NQ5vJxFec= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from dellcorei5dias ([37.153.151.218]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfC4q-1gbe6R0LMG-00opP8; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:56:15 +0100 From: Deus Max References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87ftrbhubd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87va06sv98.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:56:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87va06sv98.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> (Deus Max's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:45:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87o95ysuro.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fsI8XmAEwcKvLRxO/IAxRasVQ5AdHql7AkaA6qSAJFPATUn4q6C 20qP7HJlFTS4WP1RJx8c0uUWQG0kgyTvDr0W21BeHd4BpWJQw8AMkam5aelnhsyj4aV2pxw 1ViQNoTbKq+ixF81SRxM0zHlLTZ9XPZZsLUEQ/C55FYYlITKABYaXWs2wBYZUrxTc3UMZ8R CYXHVe0a2ICoq3eSW2fmA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:HothoeKWp9Y=:QZS5QbJkuQVCtt8NvGcN8r L1SvAb6jx3T6P+FGC7XP+L/ofJzJSRKPCMZoH8okWpNi5rcLi/udTYQoTmtB+0M68DMGOsqrM HL1rBmKXZt7pi9lNZF6XT45oi1ki+BCwRrb9q3uEqSSselk508W7wQWJ6sPVGazAubcYSlTHh GSPZu9G4bzRkF74f4Ob6OLXfIkckHT1fi2YjVeWEW/qmG3oaEd9HOLkHC/zVnC9GXMRnIMIX7 IJl/4ALI8r/QU900JlFatWeT3qGBM8nHA5D+JTxZ0N0ROofz/i9xAX/NE6T+4RhPbVQc/n5Yq nhCP5Z+/1ijxWooLk2qqxAAOjDpz7mwxFTF0JpNd5w00CjXqwe5DLT7KFFFVLrjuF4u7S4xXp 1jtK43/jCcI4MZgDS2xB9u34rfYn5GBYKowRd3ZnS8ip/D1BuU0+DFy84CSyagilVDs9IY3m9 wrQN8P2wBxforYmktPhq/eFUHWpRLfAsVMoe92a5Tv1orBFZG4X1V/ki7qMrnJ7f8nyDub+rm 540xbN9a2xtulfG8wBVZKVFNm0RHqSq6xs2otWsiMbboln8yLUtxWoGex+SOpP+5D5QqI/CDy P4/Hr3i4JyA6C7lOxvONTwTieYUyqp/c1dOVMHduEbwPwuXypsZdeCzcvSnfonnFlZ88DRO5c zemRvS4SgbdSTyJ8c8Ix7khte+ijLzSI6kVVQeJGfNF8hJXXmQN99HrOzlCCDZISiVD5zTFo9 QarZC0EqrYi9XvcWTAzFhbZJkTORy5DcU9qSieNXY4Jh9MC2NpPJYwOUC6Y+N6k4pRz3D/zNs IV82ipvdGCV0HMUjP6aSdZIkSru2jFIavbD7eM36WULXrWZR2/uUfy6vKUCqURjoWYuNq7RDP 6TI8i9O14zM15PRKmCZFXQxcl1q/aODXfpHIOHC3gDxGUXhW/jr5fqr9zr/wT9 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Mon, Mar 25 2019, Deus Max wrote: >>> >>> I didn't see any duplicate groups in my .newsrc.eld file. >>> Output on above nnimap group (with literal byte sequences) is: >>> (fontified t) >> >> Sorry, I meant duplicate groups appearing in your *Group* buffer, not >> your.newsrc.eld file. > > Yes, I have this weirdness under "Deleted Items". > On my web interface there is only the top-most group, with no subgroups > as "Greek Holidays". As for the subgroup name with the long hash > attached, I would never have created such a group name. it is an > artefact. 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emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155418333213667 (code B ref 34983); Tue, 02 Apr 2019 05:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2019 05:35:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBC55-0003YH-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:35:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44134) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBC53-0003Xk-5A for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:35:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBC4w-0005nS-Tr; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:35:23 -0400 Received: from lns-bzn-32-82-254-31-120.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.31.120]:45674 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa 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"Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Basil and Eric, thanks a lot for these explanations. I will see if I can make suggestions against the Gnus manual to help people understand this more easily. Best, -- Bastien From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> <87k1gnhufq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9zxj7fq.fsf@bzg.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 11:55:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v9zxj7fq.fsf@bzg.fr> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 2 Apr 2019 07:35:21 +0200") Message-ID: <87y34s7k38.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bastien writes: > Hi Basil and Eric, > > thanks a lot for these explanations. I will see if I can make > suggestions against the Gnus manual to help people understand this > more easily. TIA. :) -- Basil From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 00:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Cc: Bastien , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.155425118816536 (code B ref 34983); Wed, 03 Apr 2019 00:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2019 00:26:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBTjX-0004Id-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 20:26:28 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:59798 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBTjU-0004IP-V9 for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2019 20:26:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-126-91-70.tukw.qwest.net [97.126.91.70]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 425A7FA17C; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 00:26:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1554251179; bh=ZNvH1fPxehIbOJgnGk8/pfreGaySn8oyxBBAF9fo0g4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DwLkX/lzrpD7vr00re7PiyxG800zdw2qKvMRmiN2aygGzGIxjrbyD9eS0WRtPr8/u 3KQQgFoKRnjkbg3jNIXsVUzBXg+N0obOZqurfjHQEOwthUCfVpBA0L7jIiZw/N7s3O YOYc4e7clB4DViCd0b4CU5bc+EjPY0mRkCIkAmz4= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ftrbpije.fsf@bzg.fr> <87k1gnhufq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9zxj7fq.fsf@bzg.fr> <87y34s7k38.fsf@tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:26:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87y34s7k38.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Tue, 02 Apr 2019 11:55:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87imvw7x3p.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Hi Basil and Eric, >> >> thanks a lot for these explanations. I will see if I can make >> suggestions against the Gnus manual to help people understand this >> more easily. > > TIA. :) Yup, that would be great. From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 12:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Colin Baxter Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Bastien , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.156120770213785 (code B ref 34983); Sat, 22 Jun 2019 12:49:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2019 12:48:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRO-0003aH-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 08:48:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:39528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRL-0003a8-Qn for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 08:48:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRH-0005xh-FK; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:48:17 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:48:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:23:35 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Colin Baxter writes: > Ok, I've applied the patch to emacs-27.0.50 and gnus opens the nnrss feeds > satisfactorily - as it does with my other newsgroups and the imap > emails. There are no errors or warnings at all. I did [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Colin Baxter writes: > Ok, I've applied the patch to emacs-27.0.50 and gnus opens the nnrss feeds > satisfactorily - as it does with my other newsgroups and the imap > emails. There are no errors or warnings at all. I did `make clean' and > deleted lisp/gnus/*.elc files before the final `make', so I may have > gone overboard in the build. OK, sounds like the problems reported here were fixed at the time, so I'm closing this bug report. If that's a mistake, please reopen. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 22 08:48:28 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2019 12:48:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRU-0003ae-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 08:48:28 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:39546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRT-0003aW-0V for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 08:48:27 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hefRQ-0005xr-7q for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:48:26 +0200 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:48:24 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #34983 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 34983 fixed close 34983 27.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 34983 fixed close 34983 27.1 quit From unknown Fri Jun 20 20:08:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34983: 27.0.50; Gnus cannot start Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34983 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Bastien , Colin Baxter , 34983@debbugs.gnu.org, Deus Max Received: via spool by 34983-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34983.156121891018824 (code B ref 34983); Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 34983) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2019 15:55:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heiMA-0004tY-6L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:55:10 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:36944 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1heiM7-0004t8-L1 for 34983@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:55:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [172.92.212.120]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A010FA648; Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:55:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <87k1gn53i6.fsf@bzg.fr> <87woknkfdc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sgvbu7gn.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <875zs7kcwk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muljtuho.fsf@aia00054aia.gr> <87tvfrph06.fsf@yandex.com> <87imw75in2.fsf@bzg.fr> <871s2vta45.fsf@yandex.com> <87o95zhuyu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87woknrn9k.fsf@yandex.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 08:54:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:48:15 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhm9y5rl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Colin Baxter writes: > >> Ok, I've applied the patch to emacs-27.0.50 and gnus opens the nnrss feeds >> satisfactorily - as it does with my other newsgroups and the imap >> emails. There are no errors or warnings at all. I did `make clean' and >> deleted lisp/gnus/*.elc files before the final `make', so I may have >> gone overboard in the build. > > OK, sounds like the problems reported here were fixed at the time, so > I'm closing this bug report. If that's a mistake, please reopen. Yes, these patches (and those for #35130) have all gone into master.