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Contovounesios" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 15:32:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::542 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Michael Albinus , Noam Postavsky When I use Gnus as my MUA, I leave the user options gnus-suppress-duplicates and gnus-save-duplicate-list at their default value of nil, as I have not yet run into any issues with duplicate messages. After using debbugs.el, however, I noticed that the value of these two user options had been changed, and a file called 'suppression' had appeared under my gnus-directory. I think this was caused by a change to debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus[1]. [1]: Save list of read articles 2015-12-26 01:17:29 +0100 https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?id=f43413e5ad2817fb0ee055e358178924a6affe8b I don't know what sort of issues gave rise to this change, but it would be nice if debbugs.el could do its job without permanently changing the value of user options from other packages. Thanks, -- Basil In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2019-03-24 built on thunk Repository revision: dbd6490ad49b0f088d56cdd5f04178bdd62c806a Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12003000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios's message of "Sun, 24 Mar 2019 15:32:23 +0000") Message-ID: <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Ep3gxV0nrIeUl3BYc/kdejzHC/A8HYkDCvuTDFCoOveFn5HGE2U bnY6188ghelR+wrLYaFv0zdsuMOYz6K6RQIXxCq7oEwkKPTRv/rcO8dKKfPgZ7NuqfIifn9 f/rS49rq8vcz6g+IEWND6fz3SpdD7Ih5CRK0nVGS0yVanLkSfpBwqRK5goKM6isc9pdP8Ql ByZM0EBb70GrO7MTUO8Mw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Xlgp59OwkHE=:PqAE5r1PtaAH9RW+5s9qui 8u78i3hfCVYu47maOjg3TwQZnPNvc9zpOh8L9llk5te6vxtN8Y6v1t+AvSShevvO0btjPOPLl +1c/dGcQVDwDfgTN08s8hAUdQzwrcERYN7xZudTqSYleAuOViXRUw/DhOx7chzPcBn0AdA4qT 0vzf8WHmeGBAvdAWbL8jYVkkeBkULZz6ESZ08XhaqKw4WCvnCK+9v0hY6KNeL2uXa0CszxrZ/ AXLRljttEU2VrrY1Rns8Jb0OSMO8BqJoj63y+qpyo3PzJI+a1Wanlh9LIUKG0k83rfwDBzBJM sEVn+XByZaJXbl89BapcJx73NPkKM4Q67lAV6eNVusE4HX8NFZpptMKP72SwA6/j0F0dzoU58 AUXJ2cxb7Ce87ISwwLX2XNsy4c+5pxZ8CD1MPJk72Btd1s5oCwTqNJSdo9LCzbJavgZJ5GTQA sroORdrzwIJulX7K/7112aAx+aHtIJbk2+THuxY43inN+AzuZE5I6qlOqmpgZ1piuyZ9R0DNZ Z5yOGN0yG8JWTkPs/FQwtZRvtG09+eIQ8S0QVnAmWDb+TMCS13u+stCAj1KsU6OP8T5iIWcrF Ja1ZfijHAFQy48B6VOdDHM65fIUF2OOjnaL8OuhhsqSLAzgkOwe85vwKHM32TkCc7W6Rrfz4B RsV1dWhWFsPkc/Wvh4286ECg5+6JsZrwU/I9f78Ots8mHeR6UCxRn1VRdoHkJjc6G2atKl6Eb hnfkTkItsYUiCxUmWe7k5SWsobk98euwC2E0lUtKl4fZQXM7zloUL8LYEsZW+LZ7Desw06jHq plbBUe+cZuffJjpJoNFSUdiNTl4605reHjypN2Y3ASWgJVULx379mFGc27f8SR8YdvvvbsSiv CJOhfNr4ljCUtI+gIVgvpageFmYmn4wSs6PqJ4yG9ETupC4J1NkZNd3XMSshho1Mnnqir56Ex BRdUKKwtvjA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: > When I use Gnus as my MUA, I leave the user options > gnus-suppress-duplicates and gnus-save-duplicate-list at their default > value of nil, as I have not yet run into any issues with duplicate > messages. > > After using debbugs.el, however, I noticed that the value of these two > user options had been changed, and a file called 'suppression' had > appeared under my gnus-directory. I think this was caused by a change > to debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus[1]. > > [1]: Save list of read articles > 2015-12-26 01:17:29 +0100 > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?id=f43413e5ad2817fb0ee055e358178924a6affe8b > > I don't know what sort of issues gave rise to this change, but it would > be nice if debbugs.el could do its job without permanently changing the > value of user options from other packages. Looks like this is a preference Lars needs for his workflow. Lars, do you still need this? Or shall we convert this setting into a user option you would set, in order not to annoy other people? > Thanks, Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34976.155353564921259 (code B ref 34976); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 34976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:40:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8Tab-0005Wo-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:40:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:41208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TaZ-0005Wd-33 for 34976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:40:47 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TaT-0004gl-9f; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:40:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEVhTl/Gy9Oho6vBxM3P 1d3XTdH2AAACSklEQVQ4jWVUgZWrMAxzAwPUTQYIDgMQ3AEayP4znRTov/ff5a4ULCw7slKRNapW 7amn1HFtXWPHVV5TjO7aNV0Ago0fCUdUB1JdE/5GVJmRZ/ddxLIEMwvCSzZVWSQqgP9WNmTIpzXP VyB8kQBgm1uL2xX8BTzJDCrfvhz/ABU5iv4pEqrKZzqaqpmbZRsLeaV3mfOcVDviLyuMHyXaG4C8 5wpJFvczxlrH3nvXLofgy1Y+3ZLcwPScWjTbbYeSPUEOLkqylqbkhoz9u3AnLi93AlA/dUWGDh0l fKYr432zkAeL6gLYi2NcaQTHC03eohGAAQBXulpiRviEVq8tYwr6S7XN2zJqWGUSB3sBq6TaGXcv tMRpdgFyhKsrNKAt9d3kAp6DisKysfSE6HEAs6xLvQFXhxvEqQGopOrNhBoAQmTTGNSzch/8B2AE bqqFAyxVnbKD9M6QKBBxZHDvo0aFIeUTDtYoVhtqJngy+JvzmPMEFq94TfWEs0Jo9Lxg6yP2Ymd5 uM7yCmCXA2aHf4dFwERfEQjbVCoBmD7slodNH2NQUmrddYdINs4AgAlAEV/qFmCUYGGUYQNjUAKR thDwfFfBvZIqF687D9O006RsbGkc1BvFnYHid8thiTwGwnaR4MNfjuMFIHHmE0Os9AV4D6oVXxFP dgPse5woOZ1PNvKsRvjMI+wzbcEpIn8GdvwQxHTyJMmDKp4DuhYA+kug4ktOpREIxarMIFXYQg4H 3IZYzI+jwtV6qjzyJBPowuI1ZXoB7+RVfgD6+5dsbR3iZgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:40:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:45:26 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: > Looks like this is a preference Lars needs for his workflow. Lars, do > you still need this? Or shall we convert this setting into a user option > you would set, in order not to annoy other people? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Looks like this is a preference Lars needs for his workflow. Lars, do > you still need this? Or shall we convert this setting into a user option > you would set, in order not to annoy other people? I'm not quite sure I understand the last sentence there, but debbugs-gnu shouldn't be setting those variables globally. Perhaps buffer-local or something? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34976.155353601821882 (code B ref 34976); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 34976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:46:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TgU-0005go-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:46:58 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:44387) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TgP-0005gV-N1 for 34976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:46:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553536000; bh=kL3cyn+aLm+7D0Kx/mXgOLgiyYp8R93Xb1yjE/hil3w=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=DymtJhawNYNZISOjdziSmFSy9MWC95GIImZYohhshB5wvydJ06kr/bdR9ufL03DfU 8yMnQF+S02HADTruDVBIGEbutO7neF6+oy5Ir2/TMn6oPPMjesGWFuYoKjZwyVQcqW JTX/Kmy+F5t3myJ5iw1VavxlZ++bCttEzAhzRC0I= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.37.206]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MYg42-1hV7BK2rZq-00VTf5; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:46:40 +0100 From: Michael Albinus References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:46:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:40:40 +0100") Message-ID: <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:7UioTXL773m8JpWwbfn2W8oRsAgF7Tbw+iuuuvQDaZHUF+1cSPd Kmozqj8OsshqsP1i4y7FjJK6Ef9FvtEceDDxUtufc472VYG55eFjrQzuZiarCMs7WJuPcEi 93xbO1NnONnOCZck9PkCS6nEypeZ9Llm6+Qwm+HDZW/MIMyTtVdbeVFlcsrzMb7WlfNM6h2 wvg1hfOsSO2RONPeT3yaw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:MeZp9y2DlY0=:YARnsJSSFcilaigoTJCGsc 2xFazsMeFcQ/eTKrbxSWu5b2xgIkP186krxmCbFcqsF2K5k0atYpwONKVg0uurTQcw4/qxW2K xlTxlhQ7o3nGbEb/FYSci7kUndYQERI2ChMsk2OqtBUsfPZPbLf35s8W2XI8QkTK9L9EKg2zb dyKlaEL4MAT2IzeLj20OWtaa4x/b9UTobabhqhcO1bN6KFoFTModTbl7IutVbplSjYaQ5CJq4 tRK+Icdk790sPpZpXrd/wBhAZrAGo4QOZDqNphx47v1QkPRMDIngMuzyCMSsqfC/msQb325Ee mL8YUJquUhYNlJ07O2eHsACnCJCFFTMgGHvlJBXZqUwbd7VKp+t06dv3nyiieLOuNDQUbZm4T 2zY05WqHAlkjHyXO+nqR3zESpBLW/Iya1MsgUAVFFtbiSnHJQf0JGpZFawB/E2EMkj7BioeEC 5S9PXlBGCDeIcZDvcpVAEeujUx3/NUwZkIeBw2NJDTMCFT+24M66AmVD1jVymaRWomKmVKH5x gE1j6RA0Nt4uHn81UD9ecM7vTP4aXNjX1fOM5swdFxIXogOlsYW+QNQH2c4f0tWUtLC/eD9AG Gq7AM3HAQYWadp6l8NtyfcqygGCOu83mXBIZdmo9L1bI0lI6KnKvzBXvtc8u6mvU3DMgvftVV FiY4VFj++KKValqEKeSC5o/Poo98RBrooIW92djIp8SebRksn15scu2eL4AqlWTwopqGM17B3 4jGS5Vp372WYbC1y4MT7Wnp6SZQumf/Ep6X+hmW/2YIDwoGHJQB91Di2EfNfuIL4Myv4gCzrG 2tCQcks/nvkyIs9aHK4e5OCOQZPb5f/Fg2nZpsaHbQ1sGtL1RrOg4vE/cUzvyP0Ee6yZwp2/4 /V6CF6y8+FfwNdm93tbf6sWqb5uu2EN2fTB+oQAAO//DBs5InDpqEWD2lZGmt1ieyuQDUn4pP 3PBKEmdkv2A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I'm not quite sure I understand the last sentence there, but debbugs-gnu > shouldn't be setting those variables globally. Perhaps buffer-local or > something? Well, that's OK for gnus-suppress-duplicates. But gnus-save-duplicate-list seems to be taken into account only when you leave Gnus. So I don't know how to set it locally (but this might be simply because I don't know Gnus in detail). That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34976.155353612622081 (code B ref 34976); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 34976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 17:48:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58636 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TiH-0005k4-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:48:46 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:41282) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TiF-0005jw-Ql for 34976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:48:44 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h8TiC-0004kH-Fx; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:48:42 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEVhTl/Gy9Oho6vBxM3P 1d3XTdH2AAACSklEQVQ4jWVUgZWrMAxzAwPUTQYIDgMQ3AEayP4znRTov/ff5a4ULCw7slKRNapW 7amn1HFtXWPHVV5TjO7aNV0Ago0fCUdUB1JdE/5GVJmRZ/ddxLIEMwvCSzZVWSQqgP9WNmTIpzXP VyB8kQBgm1uL2xX8BTzJDCrfvhz/ABU5iv4pEqrKZzqaqpmbZRsLeaV3mfOcVDviLyuMHyXaG4C8 5wpJFvczxlrH3nvXLofgy1Y+3ZLcwPScWjTbbYeSPUEOLkqylqbkhoz9u3AnLi93AlA/dUWGDh0l fKYr432zkAeL6gLYi2NcaQTHC03eohGAAQBXulpiRviEVq8tYwr6S7XN2zJqWGUSB3sBq6TaGXcv tMRpdgFyhKsrNKAt9d3kAp6DisKysfSE6HEAs6xLvQFXhxvEqQGopOrNhBoAQmTTGNSzch/8B2AE bqqFAyxVnbKD9M6QKBBxZHDvo0aFIeUTDtYoVhtqJngy+JvzmPMEFq94TfWEs0Jo9Lxg6yP2Ymd5 uM7yCmCXA2aHf4dFwERfEQjbVCoBmD7slodNH2NQUmrddYdINs4AgAlAEV/qFmCUYGGUYQNjUAKR thDwfFfBvZIqF687D9O006RsbGkc1BvFnYHid8thiTwGwnaR4MNfjuMFIHHmE0Os9AV4D6oVXxFP dgPse5woOZ1PNvKsRvjMI+wzbcEpIn8GdvwQxHTyJMmDKp4DuhYA+kug4ktOpREIxarMIFXYQg4H 3IZYzI+jwtV6qjzyJBPowuI1ZXoB7+RVfgD6+5dsbR3iZgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:48:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:46:38 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: > That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or > alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. :-) Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or > alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. :-) Sounds good. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:14:55 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:48:40 +0100") Message-ID: <8736narfc0.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Albinus writes: > >> That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or >> alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. > > :-) > > Sounds good. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but how would setting this new debbugs user option be different from setting the existing Gnus user options? In other words, why can't users who want a Lars-esque workflow (Larsflow?) just set the gnus-* user options themselves? Wouldn't the proposed debbugs user option be redundant? Thanks, -- Basil From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , noam postavsky , 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34976.155353837025851 (code B ref 34976); Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 34976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2019 18:26:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58666 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8UIT-0006it-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:26:09 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:43397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8UIN-0006iC-T7 for 34976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:26:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553538355; bh=MPHGLY7uQqw7O654Q6YkrnXKJaoPtVHlzJO8xPNtiSo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=QMiUztH8+sukRhoHPUCPGGxpwW5HfSNqz3KKB+IiD5twEua2MINOV0PvdmBfFe+Id UkZmn15Bj1rb/AIMgmoHDALmo/ttAmK4lANqsjiW2x9sXMdHAbjIC3a6s9BnoCpQ5+ LHL1W0FdRmNQGGNr/rFOT4+WK0gBKA3HiRh+9sKo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.37.206]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKqOW-1h8UIF1htA-0000hO; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:25:55 +0100 From: Michael Albinus References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> <8736narfc0.fsf@tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:25:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8736narfc0.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. 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Contovounesios" writes: Hi Basil, > Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but how would setting this new > debbugs user option be different from setting the existing Gnus user > options? In other words, why can't users who want a Lars-esque workflow > (Larsflow?) just set the gnus-* user options themselves? Wouldn't the > proposed debbugs user option be redundant? IIUC, Lars doesn't set these variables in his .emacs permanently. He needs them *only* in case of debbug-gnu, when a gnus-ephemeral group is created. The proposed variable does this for him. Otherwise, he would need to wrap the debbugs-gnu commands by own ones. > Thanks, Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> <8736narfc0.fsf@tcd.ie> <87ef6uq099.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:41:31 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87ef6uq099.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:25:54 +0100") Message-ID: <87h8bqpzj8.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: > >> Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but how would setting this new >> debbugs user option be different from setting the existing Gnus user >> options? In other words, why can't users who want a Lars-esque workflow >> (Larsflow?) just set the gnus-* user options themselves? Wouldn't the >> proposed debbugs user option be redundant? > > IIUC, Lars doesn't set these variables in his .emacs permanently. He > needs them *only* in case of debbug-gnu, when a gnus-ephemeral group is > created. The proposed variable does this for him. > > Otherwise, he would need to wrap the debbugs-gnu commands by own ones. Thank you for clarifying. I still don't see how the proposed user option would save Lars in that case. When Debbugs sets the gnus-* variables, these changes are not isolated to Debbugs ephemeral groups, but affect Gnus globally. One would have to use different Emacs instances for each of Debbugs and Gnus in order for these settings to not interfere with one another. Right? So, if one wants to suppress and persist duplicates in Debbugs but not in Gnus, then either Gnus duplicate suppression has to become more granular, or Debbugs has to implement its own duplicate suppression. Or am I missing something? -- Basil From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" writes: Hi Basil, > I still don't see how the proposed user option would save Lars in that > case. When Debbugs sets the gnus-* variables, these changes are not > isolated to Debbugs ephemeral groups, but affect Gnus globally. One > would have to use different Emacs instances for each of Debbugs and Gnus > in order for these settings to not interfere with one another. Right? For gnus-suppress-duplicates you are right. I would change the global setting into a local let-bind. gnus-save-duplicate-list has effect only when Gnus is exited. I understand it such a way, that Lars wants to save the list of such duplicate entries from the gnus-ephemeral group created by debbugs. Using Gnus outside debbugs doesn't need this setting. So it makes sense to set gnus-save-duplicate-list globally, for Lars. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Subject: bug#34976: closed (Re: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options) Message-ID: References: <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 34976 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:58:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1553615882-27404-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1553615882-27404-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 34976@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 34976: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D34976 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1553615882-27404-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 34976-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2019 15:57:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8oRn-00076r-9X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:57:10 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:59763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8oRg-00076I-Ui for 34976-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:57:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553615812; bh=flYh1z1ViOrqqfZRnnzXzakehGAsrU7J/v66BIrE6ZM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=gOqlLRxZ0Z03Sq4dg0RDFhBbv/ufcp0VV1GAWxQ3z/A2M13dPgjhjXZsYzr1TxLOA dhCvXK1nAi/TwNkhnTVQSggrf1H9ca+90D3JwgJvZpADg9S3/mT7ObwlXCljrrhmmH EAdgAqcn5SJ3n7jHKY4aJDEOp56Y/lp0hfuQmQQU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.37.206]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mb7lL-1hNr7n2KbL-00KgMW; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:56:52 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:56:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:48:40 +0100") Message-ID: <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+zqXatMXkkiuP/33i8x1E2vE0nKJEHJ0bGxhQhSCilT6jVLHND4 Kfl6UR8qGK7/kW2kfceUdieMGvKkGns2UlUDI3d5lBlor9KqpUF+T5018gOuY4dlxGb6TS8 9LuXycrkyZALSRcwDU2XsGzc8nHd4U1fqpDDGAkawGqnTloA4+JP02l/QHKWJd8lsDRR6Nv XlcKWEX/TP/5dUnXpW32w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:4uLDCFOZ5Hw=:tPc/Vu/8oXVq+tpMUIKhWD XZRoejJgpxuJJ5b++465m5DrlBiWmIAp6VIcqMP68ckWo9zCHkWqyDAE4kaiSlyITB9NWQ9Py FbovA04NYqJZNvVrjrIC7UFxtpwvhXUHVHc0JbVJxWGlhtmMck4PQuvhRPNCU0LAbRsVzu1SV rXLTPeWz7PjkzTaB0HuJNuYZNlw7xFzqu81xbgpR5QY6VVSdV+QVhGVEI4l8AbXsUgLJ3rLNv P92j8mNSp81t9mWgg7Vc9Lpefy+yXW0+B1MtLIhk4SYa9v7a8bKSbdSir/oZkpg6cqhCqfgN5 YMFQ68FhTvlktgM7cxRnmKJ1Rik0O3cqn/bAhy+r7Qhk2SIM0pcHbSrcfyabwFgFN+WqNFfEc 8jSRiklXXrTVJy3Gng2GlO7pORngoT4+2Zxych7gqh075vxqymEHTt+i3SUpf8mXf5/ne9kVI vYu67pdriXjuGx61pcuERZ5GpzNx8h/jCgDPVJZHvDQ7D8xdxeQY8R6M2c1PkXhrfVFg0ngl9 V5jVMMQlKLtDm9WS7BoB4Li5wRyNg+5AZPyF+gGltmBI7zLufmhH/WUUQo9qjuTt3KRJkGgIQ TwYygkGKtRUAt+uaHgag7TUcw4hEVxjCStMN4xCbNs7WAxR9FAzeZJ0fdbmxiHM6XayLgU2DI ZczwiVmLxViNX48D15uX6ENnkRvLqVtgPhx/6I1bT8HT0mzesZ0Mmn5An9vVLDKo1Aup6dCRs J3lQSMnnyw7CpIJWPvIDl5K5gaQvpT9S+dXfMR3UP6oOBp7rI7eZywW1tqV8vP6c0LCHvS16B mLhSqULyr9BwtHbQAW+kE11iRzd2gha0yqb5ELuhyi8GqG4tyOah32IAf25SDoarD+VHhPw7a yn10NMX3vToM9tBgmj3ILKfZYBZvOPXImM7jxDYpNyzrHWIcb2th3Pg34TapiGZE8a2gMgjDF STLaZDdpDFA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34976-done Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Albinus writes: > >> That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or >> alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. > > :-) > > Sounds good. I've fixed it this way. Lars, you shall set debbugs-gnu-lars-workflow to a non-nil value. Closing the bug. 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Contovounesios" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 15:32:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::542 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Michael Albinus , Noam Postavsky When I use Gnus as my MUA, I leave the user options gnus-suppress-duplicates and gnus-save-duplicate-list at their default value of nil, as I have not yet run into any issues with duplicate messages. After using debbugs.el, however, I noticed that the value of these two user options had been changed, and a file called 'suppression' had appeared under my gnus-directory. I think this was caused by a change to debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus[1]. [1]: Save list of read articles 2015-12-26 01:17:29 +0100 https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?id=f43413e5ad2817fb0ee055e358178924a6affe8b I don't know what sort of issues gave rise to this change, but it would be nice if debbugs.el could do its job without permanently changing the value of user options from other packages. Thanks, -- Basil In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2019-03-24 built on thunk Repository revision: dbd6490ad49b0f088d56cdd5f04178bdd62c806a Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12003000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid ------------=_1553615882-27404-1-- From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D34976.155361699929248 (code D ref 34976); Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 34976-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2019 16:16:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60456 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8okg-0007bf-WA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:16:39 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:59292) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8okc-0007bT-Gr for 34976-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:16:37 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h8okX-000079-6J; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:16:31 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEX///r+//n///0kIjD7 9+v+//r///6HhYv+//X+/fX+//v///8GBQrUy2KAAAACUUlEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8GfRpZ10oaXt dn2YA1ejAlm0NDVJBZ3yDXKYg3JLGhcMpUO1JaMh0Bgy9RPUhgjaG1Xwch+q792dZHvoDTbWz++f 0BNMp/WKzk0jRqMchIBcAED2BKb3zauGfma4O9ahJBAjyCQeXHebN1A3OeDBUcY6w3AUf1MuGT6V sk4xxOyQvgiVtXpCAPG6pAA5CnmVNQwUn6EM9SVEcPZTSJVlUgLn5wkCuN9Q5/x3uiIRCAQPZF2x hlpwBXi5SOcdAEdQqpwyg3jw6XymggTULo0B+TOGrmKAUOOSgbLnBN1iUUWwCbgGwXZezjkVYhEg D/0TLMoAiJpgDR94okw++G5ensxDKk2pHiMgEpTlSen9FYRUHKF30AWg286AKcL7qqSGrxCdY6gH 6MpuB1Qj62v89QEylYr3sP1Sdb7y12FwrjHAedWV/4NugMtdV9tznyKK2NUuwpf7MKQ6ft+DGrqi 2T/64289mARKB6DbEcHEAWsCZPA9uH7yATqGrz3UmVHtZgfXhXKpKyqF+KN/fE6LEPGHI5wrNsbE FcAipvoFNVi3cbblS3w2YT5+GIA3y5l+a4qYas2Pj1XGzcwYZzi+mJwVNkUcKVu0DHr2c3w6OVOh K9qP78q02poWTaHpJhhF1du0OBppFto9o7RBnkMjwTLeXkOtKu6XdrNF5BdAntNCSb23zhqz1zCt l6sbIYQUtHAUfMEJ3gLBdLW6vSVrcjF6we8R4F18SkBvmfqOXzTN/XLZUDBrgHRW/WF8vgcHfPcP kxSCimfELU8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:16:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:56:50 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: > I've fixed it this way. Lars, you shall set debbugs-gnu-lars-workflow to > a non-nil value. Perhaps change the name to something a bit more generic? :-) Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > I've fixed it this way. Lars, you shall set debbugs-gnu-lars-workflow to > a non-nil value. Perhaps change the name to something a bit more generic? :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , noam postavsky , 34976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34976.155361733529759 (code B ref 34976); Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 34976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2019 16:22:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60460 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8oq3-0007jr-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:22:15 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:59973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8opy-0007jI-4z for 34976@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:22:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1553617316; bh=qkNpqjmku86+ogml4rXilcjC8B7oL4ytdBp+nCAIWnE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lYENsk/UM3D0+FfBL52EEiCNaLR3ORsleRURhJtWhher4JL0RmV+RPLxVJivZSUTI 0LXeo6PLrLgGUUMpWCnQaewxaGnMzkyvGn1Y4gn5/Xfek8FcfwjFcqYhi1oZkkCUUK eiGb/B580KVy+3LtWPEiPNHZ2kF3JL1xotFD515A= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.37.206]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKbZD-1h9eJX0s91-001zm6; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:21:56 +0100 From: Michael Albinus References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:21:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:16:29 +0100") Message-ID: <87bm1xip26.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:FBfvoaYUCeYCD2YQ/+BWyF19H/WPjgw0USD3yY/DrShAeMCp0nt 7fsh0U6bjVzTHbXCspBefiShigqcaFAHdAVySp49spefQHQT/BOd7nanWUv96eVlLddC5Pr kL1+VkDx6Ond4xnodZaWKvUYfXWyjdjrro4NLfxZ7Xd+I5MTO8snNCRMuM/SrliG38iveXE J/oTOVxZJQH4MNuMqe1dA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Qfswh4fxRS4=:9AQ0k7xoNIgNrgDe4DcrQR tyjjTV47PYPIQQ6PBT0pZr3kHgm+tpTHCmpfwPWnbqIqcnnOAjodo4twcBXNpxjfMWUECHipi pf/NTo1cVcqq92o0w+RWTQ9fdOEmoDhLj0kLv6qr6Dyz2GAijOwUw5kwdrJ4F1A2ds+8CSlRi 8Sy48B+olQnuzL3cddA5xxe9qTGlJpcgHHl0Ycxila+AL0X+e9/gDFqAtQEKTyaHCjO0roAgg GRjF268wF4YDwqVA2kWknR5qxOap8+2cB0BsVkpkhAW+8yYOdQRFlB/2Unusuy1f8nrLPkvB+ gY95OoqrOlysnOt2Sm+EhapKxeseXcgvktL38vDzMtaEYbmmuR/6u0krszAt9IbMCOGKa9sY/ 69wZAkIdgd1dEjidTYLm6OmL/apPkAzgkqpHNwKbLc1ewnCeCjPHxeJTW7w+Q+Or1056L/ZTT bCiseTdKy6C9UGkvTCH+9Hp5iKO9Au91SEU4WHJwuX4jCJzqvwKTW/O9I1OmMZW5rbkOwhth3 w77Z1C3kHaVE8D1gtEL56q8FL9C8Lgoy6edUijq4XB225o1ytTnZ5ZLJvV62g1LMy+0j11jqb SC9LGiqcNl8su6LJ3YjlhVXmjTgRXL/Rj215KjWB/QA2PsPOEAlQRmSqtfw4C84qwpl0/uAV2 pZRiGt8ScC/rQL35GgB7ZVaEbjkvjHrOJ3Fuh/TCByxek9asHgVxuA6MLi07TdZ6ZPMWzHRBg a1o8qpOSxvgyKwIAs3Bs3Jm+xOlzb0zq4BuPHw288IhYiWZOrG0hmfGWrthYx8/sXrRXHrUy/ xbm4eM4ByFK6l9l8L0rGouc+rCy35Gs7ukDWFqZTMoUh8okU6kbV1cMdgMtc4bdjq7F0dTO/V Wjzi3VLYe04U4xyIXo3rkOYSaFJZ8WjYGzzhDekn2fcZuXMKsEJ9tu0JFmftmfmaVR19zORuP whcjfZwspTw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> I've fixed it this way. Lars, you shall set debbugs-gnu-lars-workflow to >> a non-nil value. > > Perhaps change the name to something a bit more generic? :-) I've thought about, but I'm bad in finding names. So I let it to you. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sun Sep 07 16:50:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34976: [debbugs.el] debbugs-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus sets user options In-Reply-To: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> Resent-From: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" References: <87pnqg1e60.fsf@tcd.ie> <87wokmq4wp.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvaq22p.fsf@gmx.de> <87ftr9iq7x.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 03:56:32 +0000 Message-ID: <87tvfpug0f.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Michael Albinus writes: >> >>> That's why I thought we could add a user option debbugs-lars-workflow or >>> alike :-) If non-nil, the gnus-* variables would be set as of today. >> >> :-) >> >> Sounds good. > > I've fixed it this way. Lars, you shall set debbugs-gnu-lars-workflow to > a non-nil value. > > Closing the bug. Thanks! -- Basil