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Sat, 16 Mar 2019 03:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Oleg Pykhalov To: Brian Leung Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 13:56:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Brian Leung's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2019 01:24:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: 34865@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Brian, Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 record = to pull a source. Please, don't forget to add a changelog entry to commit message: * gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm (emacs-zones): New variable. If you use Magit you could type =E2=80=98add=E2=80=99 to paste a yasnippet = from =E2=80=98etc/snippets/=E2=80=99 Guix Git repository. Add this directory to =E2=80=98yas-snippet-dirs=E2=80=99, see https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/The-Perfect-Setup.html Thanks, Oleg. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcjhxI46s62NFSFhXFn+OpQAa+pwFAlyM1lEACgkQFn+OpQAa +pwdMg/7BtDrpp/me2QGZ+AxlS2rlFiFmQ96zsCx6iAmUJU2JUK9ydk3TwZk/y06 WDIIy3NiezsN+pxjAplfBxKmF+GrOzBGkeDIPZax/tjc88TN3vWQ4WhV8FEdiOYP tEVphJ/TavId8udu3bdJPiVBFP6fk312hr6g1R3EL6PxYsbairCBQMJj+vk+Og9K cr7jLj9YlauYeu5wZniQkJlxtDb6C5iWfDEZrERMkbD4BgEX8GsaFX8PCUVOhtjB twysA22KUxxCAPFU0afvKGrVwFnoeYIFxoRYCLQrpjL1ZiXGmEXcjF4aYX16tU3V QNcDaaEBQoQGPuGBipOfj2T1QsZEAfos1UqhWjs8c48bIQ6fc6kzqFBYhndOXmGS L/sh1kOlPKGt5X46H0SKiontUR0Z4UuCEZ4UbJfFCbDBOpvnbPtU9mzl9s9luKNb YdEMddROfcnqs3zOXwKJYWtYoiQE0Y4jkgpUFl0aBUepdP2axaGzIjNOvauHmI+t 4O60rZH0cm4hiLi7WDel1DGTCLgwUCo11g8kdHbFnwWAU8zm52Z0tJOyhfgVrptU g/OE9DQakkN4n5dgojzsXBx04RrONAnq8Vnkgwb6+V1zo8dE3k8e5iUGcQ1/Ur1w 9y/9Po9Ai22uvIAdtbPnfynCKk61Wl9aPa7La80soTOoMw/0jog= =iqf+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 22 17:37:42 2019 Received: (at 34865) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2019 21:37:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54782 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h7RrC-00019d-8F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:37:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h7RrB-00019P-Ag for 34865@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:37:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([209.51.188.10]:38401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h7Rr0-0001Db-8e; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:37:31 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=51484 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h7Rqx-0006B5-OB; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:37:28 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Oleg Pykhalov Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:37:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleg Pykhalov's message of "Sat, 16 Mar 2019 13:56:17 +0300") Message-ID: <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: Brian Leung , 34865@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Oleg, Oleg Pykhalov skribis: > Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa > emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 recor= d to pull a source. My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring directly to the upstream repo. Or am I confusing things? Ludo=E2=80=99. 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[91.122.122.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m10sm2584277lfp.10.2019.03.24.13.01.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Oleg Pykhalov To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:01:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:37:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87ftrct529.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: Brian Leung , 34865@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [=E2=80=A6] >> Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa >> emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 reco= rd to pull a source. > > My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily > persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring > directly to the upstream repo. Ouch, I thought ELPA is persistent. That's a significant argument to not use ELPA for our purposes :-( . > Or am I confusing things? We preferred ELPA over GitHub's Git repositories in emacs-xys.scm (emacs.scm in past), didn't we? Oleg. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcjhxI46s62NFSFhXFn+OpQAa+pwFAlyX4h4ACgkQFn+OpQAa +pw2VRAAj2me2WRUj54sh1u+frVm7XS5/+qTRImJC/dkVRDa6UJnApnjH89Tb0yV zJuejabIMrwre5Q4NpcTif7hxCEvck23Tr9rGgIuhn5aIWxmr9K/nAo+FU6O4zc6 pfqTFkzUd5ZnkYBJREElvFVytRjErVpn25EWOC18j7AdSDEVCttcr0q3eyMdb8lC cxwJaN1yD7K1rmppD+oZQZ6yZlaiuM3ZQZpCQ06Aty5x23OejBP2in12Eg6mdeTV HJQ+fIhsgVjCl4iK7QPcyMGZfDVGF4PMX+s5BZ8JBacyvuyXIAelA1YFDXTfOEtc vZP11Rkuezu4/VZ9gitb8ikdLmWQiZohlnlz7wPcIvOql0W1sjhpL51YuquQqCvF rFZS1HUvFYe4Ly+TFq42bJZgR3ClzHeX/nErO7CuJ58/eNnh1xigjEAQXSOzylcZ STDawKJYTqCmzfVXl+BU/RWz4sqk4K1pOociEewXD8tbLOpBYReezIEe3iqaGAhj sKjRX88oxdhcHTHLsYVExBdrdchbgV5ANpzW+op1ZfM4TPCrCY4le8ujRqUeniZf XYi1hDqUatA3Eod8tm/4Mevi++JoStsjefYB9KcxdZF+RV0nsPCG4no5VkNssVWD Ql9AZxZ+1NwV9UgznjJNfR+oTc2o86PYMZhk5TvrkpwnWT68QGE= =dPy5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 26 05:39:39 2019 Received: (at 34865) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2019 09:39:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8iYU-00089G-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:39:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60252) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h8iYT-000890-Rv for 34865@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:39:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h8iYO-0006cF-8E; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:39:32 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=45768 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h8iYM-0008JM-WC; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:39:31 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Oleg Pykhalov Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftrct529.fsf@gmail.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 6 Germinal an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:39:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ftrct529.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleg Pykhalov's message of "Sun, 24 Mar 2019 23:01:34 +0300") Message-ID: <87va06ht4f.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: Ricardo Wurmus , Brian Leung , 34865@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Oleg, Oleg Pykhalov skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > > [=E2=80=A6] > >>> Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See >>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa >>> emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 rec= ord to pull a source. >> >> My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily >> persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring >> directly to the upstream repo. > > Ouch, I thought ELPA is persistent. That's a significant argument to > not use ELPA for our purposes :-( . > >> Or am I confusing things? > > We preferred ELPA over GitHub's Git repositories in emacs-xys.scm > (emacs.scm in past), didn't we? Hmmm, not sure, Ricardo, what=E2=80=99s the story? :-) Ludo=E2=80=99. 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In-reply-to: <87va06ht4f.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:55:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87tvfp52hm.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: Oleg Pykhalov , 34865@debbugs.gnu.org, Brian Leung X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi Oleg, > > Oleg Pykhalov skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: >> >> [=E2=80=A6] >> >>>> Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See >>>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa >>>> emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 re= cord to pull a source. >>> >>> My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily >>> persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring >>> directly to the upstream repo. >> >> Ouch, I thought ELPA is persistent. That's a significant argument to >> not use ELPA for our purposes :-( . I only know that MELPA isn=E2=80=99t immutable. I assumed that ELPA is fin= e. >> We preferred ELPA over GitHub's Git repositories in emacs-xys.scm >> (emacs.scm in past), didn't we? > > Hmmm, not sure, Ricardo, what=E2=80=99s the story? :-) I don=E2=80=99t think we did. I can=E2=80=99t think of even one case where= we switched from git-fetch from GitHub to url-fetch from ELPA. git-fetch is the preferred way when there are no stable tarballs. -- Ricardo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 27 06:57:34 2019 Received: (at 34865) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2019 10:57:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60885 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h96FS-00064h-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:57:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h96FP-00064Q-SR for 34865@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:57:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h96FK-0008B8-C6; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:57:26 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=50764 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h96FJ-00035n-Rc; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:57:26 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftrct529.fsf@gmail.com> <87va06ht4f.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvfp52hm.fsf@elephly.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 7 Germinal an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:57:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tvfp52hm.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:55:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87va04fuul.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865 Cc: Oleg Pykhalov , 34865@debbugs.gnu.org, Brian Leung X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [...] >>>>> Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See >>>>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa >>>>> emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 r= ecord to pull a source. >>>> >>>> My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily >>>> persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring >>>> directly to the upstream repo. >>> >>> Ouch, I thought ELPA is persistent. That's a significant argument to >>> not use ELPA for our purposes :-( . > > I only know that MELPA isn=E2=80=99t immutable. I assumed that ELPA is f= ine. [...] > git-fetch is the preferred way when there are no stable tarballs. So, Oleg, I think you can go either way, but fetching over Git is probably safer. Can you apply the patch? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 27 15:27:54 2019 Received: (at 34865-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2019 19:27:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h9EDJ-0003cg-Oq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:27:53 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f194.google.com ([209.85.208.194]:33742) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h9EDH-0003cS-0H for 34865-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:27:51 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f194.google.com with SMTP id f23so15499164ljc.0 for <34865-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=293JxzYkuTowx+1nVLODz5RF/48lqsE+JEPtagHhEgQ=; b=oY+nq6+q1GLwdV07xx1BvWkz37Ap8OxuJ9VM8cl0W769WP/vNQ2JmXuwUYSYOor6jo yy/cc1MhmVUcotwLel9EIagrbU/bQHNfQ+gZtJ4ltiianBxAWac2M6Z91ksZfd0Obp4m /Tvhipf65ROgDLTVkIkwI/fms9bdmEfbPy4gnm4i/WlxHyKb2pfCFFuUov91ibV6u7PI 4DXkxW0CMbNSK1oA60tPiDAYrk5uRuSn7ujVD5zrGLhzDmnaUR4eEBNNbbeo1LtakeRK kdqJtDoGAGOgz8QpcFZrRsxq9L5wkhwu1HTIlT5iOcHRpGumXRvyv12zX3Fg9DjfDT48 kkwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=293JxzYkuTowx+1nVLODz5RF/48lqsE+JEPtagHhEgQ=; b=bKRKzXMuCXYht5DT8wq3/J/abBpE5M6ORO61dUPyQeckFmLC4TlJJoES7DsIr769Ul 62G2zziNQUj4zWAYKMh7peeMed+jERgwNfK3RGdwqgMRYffdHQQ3tD//VQSnTusfIzib kypVp+k7jpoef8ghgb8xG8440zz+TUzRm+WUh15tF4IpT/MtDgOn8JX317lZlFYQ7PZ2 +78Bp7tvnY1D2sD/WY1i9Bp+WUs3WiaXSKmgKL0DbrER/lLGizBzjBXRcmnjvn9XwHsN 6m2kNbevWsMbfhNQdUNANZ/2ImSgrP4RafRRFkh8NbIyh0/StFEytYkIReKrY8bb5wDu W67Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXEBQVviWl+CqWYNq46pZS7VTEMDl01/OiBnqW3Jwd8Gzf0GPWq kNIkEM9R/Ctkr8a9O4V7J5U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwTc3wHzkQAwGAqB+88lbkJiQdDW3S2bYMsLHQ4Ow3mXwdSEY9TCAcP+GTqdMZ2W6Q1RfKbPg== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:810d:: with SMTP id d13mr11456098ljg.93.1553714864896; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guixsd ([178.71.67.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w28sm1760685lfk.95.2019.03.27.12.27.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Oleg Pykhalov To: 34865-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: [bug#34865] [PATCH] Add emacs-zones. References: <87o96bulym.fsf@gmail.com> <87y3561tgq.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftrct529.fsf@gmail.com> <87va06ht4f.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvfp52hm.fsf@elephly.net> <87va04fuul.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 22:27:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87va04fuul.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:57:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87y350ruc4.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34865-done Cc: Ricardo Wurmus , Brian Leung , Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [=E2=80=A6] >>>>>> Could we use emacs-zones from Elpa? See >>>>>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/zones.html . =E2=80=98guix import elpa >>>>>> emacs-zones=E2=80=99 will produce a decent =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99 = record to pull a source. >>>>> >>>>> My understanding is that ELPA and MELPA tarballs are not necessarily >>>>> persistent and immutable, and that we generally prefer referring >>>>> directly to the upstream repo. >>>> >>>> Ouch, I thought ELPA is persistent. That's a significant argument to >>>> not use ELPA for our purposes :-( . >> >> I only know that MELPA isn=E2=80=99t immutable. I assumed that ELPA is = fine. > > [...] > >> git-fetch is the preferred way when there are no stable tarballs. > > So, Oleg, I think you can go either way, but fetching over Git is > probably safer. > > Can you apply the patch? OK, pushed as c881ed8698517a2c2007c2fdc3a7aeec52ff109c with a source fetching over Git. 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