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26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard

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From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:13:02 -0800

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Starting from any Windows program, select text and press C-c to copy
text into the Windows clipboard.

Switch to Emacs. Press C-y to paste into the Emacs buffer.

Emacs will crash and display a dialog asking whether the user wishes to
debug or generate a crash trace. I tried to write the crash trace but I
have been unsuccessful in trying to locate this file; I suspect it is
not, in fact, written out under Windows.

I just updated Windows this morning when the bug first manifested, so it
is a pretty good bet that this is related. On another Windows computer,
this behavior does not manifest.


In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2018-05-30 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18342
Recent messages:
Loading battery...done
Loading paren...done
‘epa-file’ already enabled
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.

Configured using:
 'configure --without-dbus --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS THREADS LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: ENU
  locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

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Message #8 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 21:49:07 +0200

> From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:13:02 -0800
> 
> Starting from any Windows program, select text and press C-c to copy
> text into the Windows clipboard.
> 
> Switch to Emacs. Press C-y to paste into the Emacs buffer.
> 
> Emacs will crash and display a dialog asking whether the user wishes to
> debug or generate a crash trace. I tried to write the crash trace but I
> have been unsuccessful in trying to locate this file; I suspect it is
> not, in fact, written out under Windows.
> 
> I just updated Windows this morning when the bug first manifested, so it
> is a pretty good bet that this is related. On another Windows computer,
> this behavior does not manifest.

This has to be something peculiar to the recent build of Windows 10,
so we must rely on someone with access to that system to debug it.  If
you can afford installing GDB, running Emacs under GDB, and reporting
the backtrace from the crash, we might be able to understand the
problem.  Needless to say, pasting from the clipboard works for me on
my Windows box (not Windows 10).

Thanks.

Message #11 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
To: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 15:15:52 -0400

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 14:06, Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Starting from any Windows program, select text and press C-c to copy
> text into the Windows clipboard.
>
> Switch to Emacs. Press C-y to paste into the Emacs buffer.
>
> Emacs will crash and display a dialog asking whether the user wishes to
> debug or generate a crash trace. I tried to write the crash trace but I
> have been unsuccessful in trying to locate this file; I suspect it is
> not, in fact, written out under Windows.
>
> I just updated Windows this morning when the bug first manifested, so it
> is a pretty good bet that this is related. On another Windows computer,
> this behavior does not manifest.
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
>  of 2018-05-30 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea
> Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18342

I can't reproduce this on my Windows 10 system. Emacs reports

    Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763

So perhaps I have an older version, even though I have applied all
updates (as far as I know)?

Message #14 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: pbrennan <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 22:27:04 +0300

> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 15:15:52 -0400
> Cc: 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
> >  of 2018-05-30 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> > Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea
> > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18342
> 
> I can't reproduce this on my Windows 10 system. Emacs reports
> 
>     Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763
> 
> So perhaps I have an older version, even though I have applied all
> updates (as far as I know)?

AFAIK, Windows 10 build 18342 is an "insider preview", so I think not
everyone gets it.  It could also mean there are some bugs in that
build, or (I hope not) some new "features" that cause Emacs trouble.

Message #17 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 12:32:18 -0700

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Hi Eli,

That was my feeling as well - that there were potentially new changes which
were released only to the Insider Ring (which I'm in), and which break
Emacs. Therefore I thought it was a good idea to post the bug now, so that
if it turns out that this really is Emacs-breaking, you have some lead time
to address it. I reverted my last update, though, and I believe I have
taken at last one build since then, but I haven't seen it come back.

Best regards,
Patrick

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 12:26 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 15:15:52 -0400
> > Cc: 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
> > >  of 2018-05-30 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> > > Repository revision: 07f8f9bc5a51f5aa94eb099f3e15fbe0c20ea1ea
> > > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18342
> >
> > I can't reproduce this on my Windows 10 system. Emacs reports
> >
> >     Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.17763
> >
> > So perhaps I have an older version, even though I have applied all
> > updates (as far as I know)?
>
> AFAIK, Windows 10 build 18342 is an "insider preview", so I think not
> everyone gets it.  It could also mean there are some bugs in that
> build, or (I hope not) some new "features" that cause Emacs trouble.
>

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Message #20 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 05:26:59 +0300

> From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 12:32:18 -0700
> Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> That was my feeling as well - that there were potentially new changes which were released only to the Insider
> Ring (which I'm in), and which break Emacs. Therefore I thought it was a good idea to post the bug now, so
> that if it turns out that this really is Emacs-breaking, you have some lead time to address it. I reverted my last
> update, though, and I believe I have taken at last one build since then, but I haven't seen it come back.

Then I guess what you saw was a one-time issue with that particular
build of Windows, and we can now close this bug?

Message #23 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 20:45:21 -0700

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Not necessarily. If it was a Windows build issue, that code is still
hanging around on a Windows branch and may well find its way into
production. I think closing the big is therefore premature.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 7:26 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 12:32:18 -0700
> > Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > That was my feeling as well - that there were potentially new changes
> which were released only to the Insider
> > Ring (which I'm in), and which break Emacs. Therefore I thought it was a
> good idea to post the bug now, so
> > that if it turns out that this really is Emacs-breaking, you have some
> lead time to address it. I reverted my last
> > update, though, and I believe I have taken at last one build since then,
> but I haven't seen it come back.
>
> Then I guess what you saw was a one-time issue with that particular
> build of Windows, and we can now close this bug?
>

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Message #26 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:49:59 +0300

> From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 20:45:21 -0700
> Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Not necessarily. If it was a Windows build issue, that code is still hanging around on a Windows branch and
> may well find its way into production. I think closing the big is therefore premature.

A closed bug can always be reopened, should this issue resurface.
OTOH, if it doesn't resurface, we risk leaving the bug open with no
clear procedure towards closing it, since negative evidence is very
hard to collect.

Message #29 received at 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: "npostavs <at> gmail.com" <npostavs <at> gmail.com>,
 "34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:52:49 +0000

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It's a fair point. I have no objection.

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________________________________
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 7:49 AM
To: Patrick Brennan
Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com; 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard

> From: Patrick Brennan > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 20:45:21 -0700 > Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Not necessarily. If it was a Windows build issue, that code is still hanging around on a Windows branch and > may well find its way into production. I think closing the big is therefore premature. A closed bug can always be reopened, should this issue resurface. OTOH, if it doesn't resurface, we risk leaving the bug open with no clear procedure towards closing it, since negative evidence is very hard to collect.

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Message #34 received at 34688-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
Cc: npostavs <at> gmail.com, 34688-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#34688: 26.1; Crash on Pasting from Windows clipboard
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 18:20:52 +0300

> From: Patrick Brennan <pbrennan <at> gmail.com>
> CC: "npostavs <at> gmail.com" <npostavs <at> gmail.com>, "34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
> 	<34688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:52:49 +0000
> 
> It's a fair point. I have no objection.

OK, closing.  Feel free to reopen if you see the problem again.

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