From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:20:04 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#3455: A solution for a problem with TAMAGO (egg) package for I18N input under emacs 23 Reply-To: ishikawa , 3455@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: ishikawa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:05:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 3455 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124402309515989 (code B ref -1); Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:05:05 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Jun 2009 09:58:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n539wA9S015984 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:58:11 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:51146) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MBnEX-0004Fb-CJ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:58:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBnEU-0006ij-Ua for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:58:08 -0400 Received: from post.ubin.jp ([202.32.0.84]:38184) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBnEU-0006ht-8t for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:58:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (post [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.ubin.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 524A229ADD0; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:58:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from [10.252.241.244] (unknown [10.252.241.244]) by post.ubin.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D6629ADD0; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:57:55 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4A264923.7030400@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:57:55 +0900 From: ishikawa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ja; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090223 Thunderbird/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Cc: Ishikawa References: <4A238514.1010503@ubin.jp> In-Reply-To: <4A238514.1010503@ubin.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 Hi, Thank you for making the great package available. I have been testing emacs 23.0.94 for the last couple of days. I am reporting a problem with an elisp package, TAMAGO, and a fix for it for wider dissemination of the patch available for it. I wish the information about the problem and the readily available fix is incorporated into etc/NEWS file. Backgrond: With emacs 23.0.94, I noticed a problem with an elisp package called TAMAGO (egg in Japanese) for I18N input. I use it mostly for Japanese input. With the widely available TAMAGO 4.0.6 distribution, which I use, I can't input Japanese any more using emacs 23.0.94. This is fixed by a patch posted a couple of years ago (in 2007) on a mailing list which I found out yesterday. The reported problem here is with this package, namely TAMAGO(egg), not emacs 23.0.xx per se. But when I searched for the information about the problem, the information is rather scarce. I found out some early Japanese would-be testers of 23.0.xx reverted to emacs 22 version since they could not use Japanese input any more using tamago(egg) package. Given that there are many emacs users in Japan, and old timers like me seem to use TAMAGO(egg) for Japanese input, you might want to put the following info in etc/NEWS to notify the potential problem and to avoid the extraneous bug reports or questions. I am afraid that the TAMAGO mailing list is not widely read these days. And as far as I can tell, Tamago 4.0.6 seems to be the up-to-date version that is made available to public. With the official release of emacs 23.1, Mr. Handa et al may release the updated TAMAGO, but for now, we need the patch. =========================== Problem with an tamago(egg) elisp package for I18N input With emacs 23, there are changes in I18N character handling and the changes break tamago(egg) Japanese input. The problem is that when a user loads TAMAGO package, and sets it up so that emacs will talk to Wnn input server, and tries to input Japanese, the backend reports that (input) candidate list could not be created. (The error appears in Japanese message. The above is my translation.) Fix: We should apply the patch reported in the following mailing list article and (byte-) recompile egg-com.el using emacs 23.xx. The following article is written in Japanese. http://www.m17n.org/mlarchive/mule-ja/200703/msg00018.html (Yes, it was posted more than two years ago.) Caveat: The fix modifies the egg-com.el file to use the new I18N function available in emacs 23.xx only, and not available in emacs 22. So once the user re-compile egg-com.el after applying the above patch, the elc files can't be used for emacs 22 even if you decide to byte-recompile the files using emacs22. BTW, I am sure that TAMAGO needs separate patch for each language it supports. Japanese input is taken care of by the above patch.I wonder what changes are required for other languages such as Korean supported by TAMAGO package. But the change in the Japanese input patch seemsto be rather straight-forward and so similar patches for other languages can be written, I suppose. That is all. Thank you again for the great package. Happy Hacking, CI From rgm@gnu.org Fri Jun 19 11:44:51 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Jun 2009 18:44:51 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,ONEWORD,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5JIilRM028306 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:44:48 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MHj4v-0003nG-Kn; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:44:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19003.56477.556929.810844@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:44:45 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control severity 3416 wishlist merge 3605 3606 reassign 3605 emacs,ns tags 3455 notabug reassign 3620 emacs,ns tags 2377 = merge 2377 3620 retitle 2626 color-theme crash close 3607 tags 3112 moreinfo unreproducible severity 3614 minor From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 17 02:05:29 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2011 06:05:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4o1o-0003S5-J3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:05:29 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4o1m-0003Ry-EJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:05:27 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R4nx2-0002Oj-Dy for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:00:32 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:57:13 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #3455 X-MailScanner-ID: 1R4nx2-0002Oj-Dy X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316844032.54841@RmU0SsdVQr0ItaGmyetCOQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) close 3455 From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:20:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#3455: A solution for a problem with TAMAGO (egg) package for I18N input under emacs 23 Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:20:17 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3455 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: ishikawa Cc: 3455@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 3455-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3455.131624041617903 (code B ref 3455); Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:20:17 +0000 Received: (at 3455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2011 06:20:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oG6-0004eT-HR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:20:15 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oFb-0004bd-Bn for 3455@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 02:19:59 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oAp-0002k2-RL; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:14:47 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <4A264923.7030400@yk.rim.or.jp> (ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp's message of "Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:57:55 +0900") Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:57:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A238514.1010503@ubin.jp> <4A264923.7030400@yk.rim.or.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Ikonika's _Contact, Love, Want, Have_: "Psoriasis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R4oAp-0002k2-RL X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316844888.24442@CT9TjuwzVBwjfa0dx0yoqw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) ishikawa writes: > I am afraid that the TAMAGO mailing list is not widely read these days. > And as far as I can tell, Tamago 4.0.6 seems to be the up-to-date version > that is made available to public. With the official release of emacs 23.1, > Mr. Handa et al may release the updated TAMAGO, but for now, we need the patch. > > =========================== > Problem with an tamago(egg) elisp package for I18N input > > With emacs 23, there are changes in I18N character handling and > the changes break tamago(egg) Japanese input. > > The problem is that when a user loads TAMAGO package, and sets it up so that > emacs will talk to Wnn input server, and tries to > input Japanese, the backend reports that (input) candidate list > could not be created. > (The error appears in Japanese message. The above is my translation.) This was reported two years ago, and I can't see that anything much was done with it. It doesn't seem like a bug in Emacs, though, so I'm closing the report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:20:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#3455: A solution for a problem with TAMAGO (egg) package for I18N input under emacs 23 Resent-From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3455 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 3455@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 3455-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3455.131630644427286 (code B ref 3455); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 3455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2011 00:40:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R55R4-000761-Ot for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:40:44 -0400 Received: from mbos141-212.alpenstock.jp ([220.156.141.212] helo=brasilia.mbos.jp) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R554j-0006b1-DE for 3455@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:17:39 -0400 Received: from [172.16.30.42] ([172.16.30.42]) by brasilia.mbos.jp ([172.16.30.52]) with ESMTP id 2011091809:12:42:607008.21907.2862963600 for <3455@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:12:42 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 538 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2011 09:12:42 +0900 Received: from nttkyo272133.tkyo.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp (HELO [192.168.0.63]) (ishikawa_yk@smp.mbos.jp@[222.158.65.133]) (envelope-sender ) by beijing.mbos (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Sep 2011 09:12:42 +0900 Message-ID: <4E75377B.5010200@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:12:43 +0900 From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; ja; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A238514.1010503@ubin.jp> <4A264923.7030400@yk.rim.or.jp> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NOT spam-marked. (by Terrace) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:40:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Dear Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, Thank you for your post. I agree that it is not a bug in Emacs per se. If the bug report remains in the bugzilla, and still could be searched, the main purpose of the original bug report is fulfilled. People who got bitten with the bug can search the bugzilla and find the solution. Too bad, I am not familiar with the innards of the handling of multibyte character code sets anymore and so I can offer a reasonable patch myself. But thank you again for your attention on the unclosed bugs in the bug report database. Happy Hacking! Sincerely, Chiaki Ishikawa (2011/09/17 14:57), Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > ishikawa writes: > >> I am afraid that the TAMAGO mailing list is not widely read these days. >> And as far as I can tell, Tamago 4.0.6 seems to be the up-to-date version >> that is made available to public. With the official release of emacs 23.1, >> Mr. Handa et al may release the updated TAMAGO, but for now, we need the patch. >> >> =========================== >> Problem with an tamago(egg) elisp package for I18N input >> >> With emacs 23, there are changes in I18N character handling and >> the changes break tamago(egg) Japanese input. >> >> The problem is that when a user loads TAMAGO package, and sets it up so that >> emacs will talk to Wnn input server, and tries to >> input Japanese, the backend reports that (input) candidate list >> could not be created. >> (The error appears in Japanese message. The above is my translation.) > > This was reported two years ago, and I can't see that anything much > was done with it. It doesn't seem like a bug in Emacs, though, so I'm > closing the report. > From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:20:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#3455: A solution for a problem with TAMAGO (egg) package for I18N input under emacs 23 Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3455 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: "ISHIKAWA\,chiaki" Cc: 3455@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 3455-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3455.131633745719008 (code B ref 3455); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 3455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2011 09:17:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5DVI-0004wU-DY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:17:37 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5DVG-0004wF-7r for 3455@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:17:34 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5DQO-0006nv-Jy; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:12:32 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <4E75377B.5010200@yk.rim.or.jp> (chiaki ISHIKAWA's message of "Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:12:43 +0900") Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:09:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A238514.1010503@ubin.jp> <4A264923.7030400@yk.rim.or.jp> <4E75377B.5010200@yk.rim.or.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEX9//5mEgaFt847BAHh 48T///+GORuacFl0maf9/vzaVDSwAAACTklEQVQ4jXWTz2vbMBTHRYkPPQqDfC0ibN3RqCTXNrzG 8y0Ea4mPJkHajtmE1VxLoemtFGfF/+2efrRNQ/aMZXgfvV/S10Tu5Sere2elJAiqsiz76K/utG7H Vw+JAwNjoIhgbvVdO75/kmR2IStrwEbwQ+tdm41/SVJfIyiKN1ANASYwdBFYw3bWHtRPZjLxxQdQ Anz4509uJcftSvlqPKgxFXy0i3YWIiosDuYwVZK8R2C7BtcDAyA1tohfI5dC5DSnqqGUaRMADu5A jk6mlWVrY4wHgJYsBTMtY8qZttYBV1DKxbgAD7SiyrYO1Of1M4LMFopSjadLMYhUt3I+HPJJsmCq pZS2zBYYRkmHgPMJTxa4D4Ft1oVSTUpwZAQcQc7QT02T2Q2lgrhT4y8OoDelzCrVsjaNADiXCFKR s0bRVlnhQbCFoDh7ZunKNHrzCTAhRuZGNNuCWQ+WD+7YFyLHCD0VatspnXoAZXfpwErk65t8s/4r ViHiEVAlCzGyuTLTfJPdiFB8+Rt22oH+S9EBa0T7BjQ8OiCyouy28EeICGaEnD87MBqZYk2maRqB nIV2hbhqlQbV5AHUZd/vAxCgbJHGVHWJ27s9ytna73cWyiAHIoOi4Fh3Tj6zEPJm1TaAGi8Dvbcf 4Dpo98Vd07F+XYTz8+GBRENS4u+Vf9XBeY69uAd/zjMPeAQDCfjc4kt8CX6pD9QeUkXwMzjr964j 4PGKq30nu1DjZee7ivu6WLzHrnb3CC5OzHHJw+jHwE/+7cTksptw3p8C/7F/U9No54qrQaMAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Eurythmics's _Touch Dance_: "Paint a Rumour" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R5DQO-0006nv-Jy X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316941952.84274@DXlWgG+idtFTjmrSBLK1tg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" writes: > If the bug report remains in the bugzilla, and still could be searched, > the main purpose of the original bug report is fulfilled. > People who got bitten with the bug can search the bugzilla and find the > solution. The bugs remain in the bug database even if they are closed, and can still be searched. And are still visible via Google searches. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/