From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:37:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#34504 <34504@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#34504 <34504@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 'pp' causally mentioned Reply-To: bug#34504 <34504@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 01:37:15 +0000 retitle 34504 'pp' causally mentioned reassign 34504 emacs submitter 34504 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 34504 wishlist tag 34504 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 16 14:34:11 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2019 19:34:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gv5j0-0001pt-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 14:34:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36166) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gv5iy-0001pU-Sd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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charset=utf-8 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledruddtledguddvlecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgfgsehtkeertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddugedrgedurddvledrfedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddugedrgedurddvledrfedtpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedv Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 23.83.214.18 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) In (info "(emacs) Program Indent") it says: Emacs also provides a Lisp pretty-printer in the =E2=80=98pp=E2=80=99 = package, which reformats Lisp objects with nice-looking indentation." OK, as there is no hyperlink to click on, say the user eventually finds that indeed there is $ dlocate /pp\\. emacs-el: /usr/share/emacs/26.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/pp.el.gz and loads it, but he still cannot use it because there is no further example of how, provided, even within that file. E.g., you could mention how to pretty print one's .emacs with it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 10:28:16 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 15:28:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOMa-0003A7-Kt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:28:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOMY-00039o-Om; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:28:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOMT-00052s-5Q; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:28:09 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2593 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOMS-00048C-MU; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:28:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:28:12 +0200 Message-Id: <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson In-reply-to: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 34504 notabug thanks > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 03:33:50 +0800 > > In (info "(emacs) Program Indent") it says: > Emacs also provides a Lisp pretty-printer in the ‘pp’ package, which > reformats Lisp objects with nice-looking indentation." > > OK, as there is no hyperlink to click on In my version of the manual, that sentence is followed by a hyperlink: Emacs also provides a Lisp pretty-printer in the ‘pp’ package, which reformats Lisp objects with nice-looking indentation. *Note pp: (elisp)Output Functions. > say the user eventually finds > that indeed there is > $ dlocate /pp\\. > emacs-el: /usr/share/emacs/26.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/pp.el.gz > and loads it, but he still cannot use it because there is no further > example of how, provided, even within that file. E.g., you could mention > how to pretty print one's .emacs with it. pp doesn't by itself pretty-print files, it can only pretty-print Lisp objects (as the hyperlinked node of the ELisp manual describes). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 10:37:38 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 15:37:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOVd-0005PG-RG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:37:38 -0500 Received: from eastern.maple.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.214.55]:28028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvOVb-0005P6-9C for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:37:36 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4E6124386; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.33.121]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7F16C1228BF; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:37:33 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Shrill-Descriptive: 7ed2bcf77df97a5b_1550417853602_3278982325 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1550417853602:3921363289 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1550417853601 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431417F157; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=QHl4A47odp4+Kpevq+QQP9zOkTc=; b=ay12xNBpbDl6o N+Zo83kaDvuVCMLrK7T1wsj0wA4ZEkLmPBq7XPXWb+R4JPkvuO61ICZjGh6/f1Xf 4t/x8g/5hfof5apu5dLRaSmlsA6gqEDFiqlGd2uaJcSVEQtQMCPgguvV32+G1Age 9wLC7iKsEmEbWsmHjywIUhY0mNL1ig= Received: from jidanni.org (111-246-96-140.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [111.246.96.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C60467F149; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 07:37:32 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a12 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:37:29 +0800 Message-ID: <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrudduuddgjeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhffffkgggtsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepudduuddrvdegiedrleeirddugedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepudduuddrvdegiedrleeirddugedtpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeeghedtgeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) OK it can only do objects, not a collection of objects, which is what I suppose a file is. So how to pretty print one's .emacs file with it might be mentioned as an exercise for the reader on that page. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 12:54:28 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 17:54:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51514 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvQe4-0002bM-AZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:60111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvQe2-0002b7-EJ for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:54:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1550426055; bh=ghOh0YH41YEakgidX7VYlDx3B5rGTyDI2E0A+52VxbE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KMkzmeEEZ8D29SaNTmR/73oNDRMMoXVQ+egPdJD0h1DLfMkQkNNS1JMJDwTZY6YcK QzTtPBc6cr1HUpWAOirXksFly8GPSG0xILMKu68bsqsysdjOcO4nOxhIZZZv6/chWd Z1ERCzafzI37RNjlbJT+yvALbyyqmeEGee+ni6Kk= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.111.211]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfAsW-1hNtiZ1KA4-00ojnr; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:54:15 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:54:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:37:29 +0800") Message-ID: <87ftsmxpvf.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gGD1XXwMcrtAR6I77hdXkMv7JG9ae1O1O7bw4YWfHWb/ILZk7Nu wtkMhpK3FA3IRI1aGa+Ujm8YclZyRdKUqMd1uWHT0L9Q71sS+l78G3V+FZRRP+/agSQ1bpA daAprKWlqFfJvOJd5gXxUznGtzdlzOlOC4knuRjH+QMuwtS87QUuG1KGz2rEKLH4tL8TMuc nevAVHAWNdN0ZK94F3vSA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cVHDlJok5Lk=:sNxOIqcXf0FX8N6NfFYoDp o4jtnftbjUnCHzLYAHf+o+PPMpzVLPdTrCRgxqMdvk5mdBc2U+t4GMwNCX30F3DN69MeIbz6F yamX2HR2SJaj3LEriaYh7wWqaHD3QlCk0UoLIwtRWpXXvGG+jUyj39a5zgXceXYR8fmYl+2D8 ac8UdMFM7rFiPYOTOxHP1xSsIGC4SnFpy+Dzi7rZj06DKq1zsqKa7pLLJoxBhDpw/uvfNy3qR kjB89UDkpKdA79T04nvDI3dUObFVEmrzOr/MTgNcquZ9Lh764JdXc7E7Xs2V9rkJ2b4+vbpzH puMTzNqtENdn9rtdJxd9Cm6BY5UzOsYoTzzQgxfnMP8UFph7QTAIL2iIKztCIGZ4PM0zAY27b BH36dC53IS9lWJuFjGRVOUzXLsqDzINY1vlvxNE67v88vS97ZXG4BlkDjUsezc5ipoflgCtWC i5ZiU1erkP3v4QN9unRM/ulEFNZtKYPa/maE522dbx3wRAYwIexJOG8x7YC2vL4bqypVj+5yA kn62dPScV11yyR22vn4Mlpkgeo5okq2qE23mX7GhJFTTgD2l2wn27QVeNbDE8F4aR5TdR0Lq8 QtqxUTIKMGOM2VGE/pAfAc4dgO9U8/otkgrvou/01I5q5goiNoi1DyDLqx0KstFcQpQO4W1of seVlGerNAWNiZXteryoIqo6/5DIR1xiVtJs7i7o9t2+BbylCyiHMLxBPj30Go3GlfVUfvb2Iy 21I0ErC4oJJqfXlp2Rdhc4fSkApNcekLGbPqqoxR8PxlM/x+Q1FYxLzCCuUtH9a2MfyDQwwPT HpoOpnsg8ABig7hge2WpHqB47OPd8TCXxA5G6/r3IdUqBUQl5gi/t7ETNvZApcjSCMy2iJ926 jcd/x8u75LSUVehHIp0IyoK8l12APwoLyTXe1OmsKPSxooL8F4cO8CDg62OLklO4IWKhfx2bq VrqxeeDrRLA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > OK it can only do objects, not a collection of objects, which is what > I suppose a file is. So how to pretty print one's .emacs file with it > might be mentioned as an exercise for the reader on that page. There's `pp-buffer'. It's only a function, however. Note that AFAIK, pp is nothing more as a very thin wrapper around the standard Elisp printer that adds some additional line breaks, and even that in a not very intelligent way. A good pretty printer you could use to prettify your .emacs still has to be written. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 13:45:27 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 18:45:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRRP-0004MF-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:45:27 -0500 Received: from golden.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.73]:13309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRRL-0004Gl-4u for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:45:26 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8914E5E3876; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.30.62]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0BC105E3716; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:45:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:45:21 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Vacuous-Fumbling: 428307970f7236dc_1550429108179_3789440986 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1550429108179:3218967383 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1550429108179 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0537ED36; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:45:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=zunwKRF2fKxqC+zJERdGuVRYTUI=; b=PpLiUTd6LxM+5 gOUdlHxQ5q/yN4QFTRJNoDkISgy/8y7wqES4QIt18O1N/xFu7xBBABfhWeCby7dn 6Frd9kKbiMWVhCMfX65nXYQ3b7dRkN2+GKYdCyqG8VIuwTG2Oh/W0fg0ou/RwuYq dXKPvbnYg5yS+4pUlc8xSqhQDrUViw= Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-14-126.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.14.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a35.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B6487F07D; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 10:45:06 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a35 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> <87ftsmxpvf.fsf@web.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:45:01 +0800 Message-ID: <87h8d2dzki.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrudduuddguddujecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppedvvddtrddugedtrddugedruddvieenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedvvddtrddugedtrddugedruddviedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeefgeehtdegseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) MH> There's `pp-buffer'. It's only a function, however. OK maybe tell the user to M-: (pp-buffer) [eval-expression] C-x h [mark-whole-buffer] [indent-for-tab-command] Now one's lisp looks pretty good. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 13:57:06 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 18:57:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51534 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRcg-0006GU-IB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:57:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRcc-0006G0-Vs for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:57:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59717) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRcX-0003HE-CE; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:56:57 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3765 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gvRcW-0002YC-Vi; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:56:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 20:57:00 +0200 Message-Id: <83d0nqkzur.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?shift_jis?B?kM+ST5Py?= Dan Jacobson In-reply-to: <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?shift_jis?B?kM8=?= =?shift_jis?B?kk+T8g==?= Dan Jacobson on Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:37:29 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=shift_jis Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: ϒO Dan Jacobson > Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:37:29 +0800 > > OK it can only do objects, not a collection of objects, which is what I > suppose a file is. No, a file is not a collection of objects, not unless you eval it. > So how to pretty print one's .emacs file with it > might be mentioned as an exercise for the reader on that page. I don't think 'pp' is something that would support such an exercise. IOW, I think you are looking for a feature in the wrong place. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 18:02:00 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2019 23:02:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvVRf-0003z7-VY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:02:00 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:60897) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvVRe-0003yq-Jx for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:01:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1550444509; bh=efUIKZGVuq6eeI3YrBfURW0OhTVuBw0UbZ4HQ56zH04=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=m/OjRJktzo5AuRKBYXlJuyn2OnkC4NOFVejEUmMWCAh4OkgJc7MTTPEsNaO+3pk+l AuPtUzZyuHfZ+iHW9+b30eBoWhbPD3wBUXo1wex8TM6QK2XW16dXppl0DnN3YWprJM kG3pbZB9nknpL+izRMGo1XK8+u2OqQ4CDuQJ2Ju8= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.111.211]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MABh3-1gkCmK0zDF-00BIir; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:01:49 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> <87ftsmxpvf.fsf@web.de> <87h8d2dzki.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:01:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h8d2dzki.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:45:01 +0800") Message-ID: <87tvh23tpg.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9ypMNrTzpjehKx0MxBa2g85Ztezyj0QE2vVoG41TCueQKTC+H2k ZlMul8pTNVDwDgkGZ9xnm7uRyzqJedF0iRGW8r5EuLOESxsYbRt5W/IaaWOeGiDKmB270uY K7qWCW3vAxFCZo2+rMZKAFVDA/UmXDtAuNZw4svkEQ23p8FXHO4Pkc6PJeMftnV6qQ0JMaB q0GDxECBu4ZqtvBBO+4+w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RAI7Mt2nrGY=:3Pf3KOJKLCDO4AhWVe/1Kq HvhaQrU5iHdj/oTJ9BVXcry9cG7GKwqwJeHPaXiHR2rcmerUmpAduQdSJiBbWiapJ7bYnSZt5 oJZdocou/liME0Tr+tw4tmWiU8WSA6mCLtIElkS+cfcpDs9ECvF2tbnB6yBM8vs8LAyon4Z4P HsJ+T1jUhwKXoU0rsJYRB5YXhAqNuV7g1YsRbUu0QsOQInEjxvhyUjdYHgnbi1oPzJ69EmOMT nwIkEvgEUnOBtRkF2g6Zr7w0xco8aWlS+xvo2rF29qIFroPwqPJzL0TS3jXt/DJGx9sT1ubHB 3Rx0JXm91s8qY0apStDh4u3DkK6Qd3PIQU4pOIcTWJcDC86w2ZQjlblJImUePOBt47RAb0AVH zfNiKQ74PhWNM4VGUIb5DTK2F46JaEFVzb9yONLHw+Hm5U/+BDt1MwFBCr3+pl7weBCzPJYep 1kcjUEC/TO0+py+ZZPs+zpFSKZQrqF4pZBvd2nuAUgTfkiiKepZJRU/1YvgxA837yZF063DYz /YQ2kF+K0fdWqVFJrZRXr6cH/2dn1QGcx1phW+DiXjnjx6kphSF8BK98p0EdC4MsZEzBPaAjW xSwwO7almiix9s8eXdMhE9mtuq4+X49j78V5x+jLGIHrTutHtiJVBmTMz5Goq75M3Zqi4InTx TbZKwYKh1q8b4JQ4m75rhjnbjKTylTMaJ/wz27E1Vusx1vAKU8xsExcfgGdAJaQiaS7wvFKoQ yW2ejrPEDo8o2v3DsjWlK0Go+2IDuV6CjcpaojKdJAPR2Nxii1MHaJMUkSVfHoEC3BjuwS/dT TZE/z5vI3gahx4KwxNkKGzbO9+uA7EFDI9Uk42bXkvlGP7UcDhPvf6JJzLjaqxbZtc5ivHivU iMP7Y+YAL1+/yqNDfwdHFDvR63dfYn5+1pmnOBMxaeEDx18y/NCbmPM7gAJ8+Sb9pLShEF+dp 2ZUrCTqWMag== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > MH> There's `pp-buffer'. It's only a function, however. > OK maybe tell the user to > M-: (pp-buffer) [eval-expression] > C-x h [mark-whole-buffer] > [indent-for-tab-command] > Now one's lisp looks pretty good. In some cases it looks prettier, but in others it looks uglier. For example #+begin_src emacs-lisp (let ((x 1) (y 2)) (+ x y)) (defun f (n) (1+ n)) #+end_src becomes #+begin_src emacs-lisp (let ((x 1) (y 2)) (+ x y)) (defun f (n) (1+ n)) #+end_src after your treatment. Too many added line breaks for my gusto, but OTOH the empty line between the two expressions has disappeared. pp may be ok for improving how an evaluation result is presented to the user, but it's IMHO by far not suitable for reformatting hand-written code. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 17 21:03:24 2019 Received: (at 34504) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2019 02:03:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvYHE-0008Rf-AR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:03:24 -0500 Received: from golden.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.73]:9190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gvYHC-0008RT-B2 for 34504@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:03:23 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BF53E27BB; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a67.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.33.121]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 579293E2690; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:03:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a67.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:03:20 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Blushing-Attack: 77060a1603af594d_1550455400531_384658339 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1550455400530:3628469462 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1550455400530 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a67.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a67.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC30C82298; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:03:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=iiAqb5QTN2qAcMb+bxJIRfWqgqg=; b=TMkbitWzvJ/DS VyvjbONWUhwsJJ+qHzNqy2hd+lVcdliH2ULMbyvnm7wFGWaWEo7808Ip70yPSXRT aoPvI9vNwcPHtqLemc8XpTZOZIqTkWBtPLCo6bb96mKgVyD7KO62FOwtXf0THngd 8Hj78151jFFDbA1syFUbJOM1fFeacg= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-7-45.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.7.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a67.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C36782290; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:03:18 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a67 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned References: <87ef87h6jl.fsf@jidanni.org> <83o97al9ir.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ommnnq.fsf@jidanni.org> <87ftsmxpvf.fsf@web.de> <87h8d2dzki.fsf@jidanni.org> <87tvh23tpg.fsf@web.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:03:15 +0800 Message-ID: <87bm39rgyk.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrudduvddggeehucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhffffkgggtsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddugedrgedurdejrdegheenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddrjedrgeehpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepfeeghedtgeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504 Cc: 34504@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) (Well it helped for .newsrc.eld files.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 15 23:03:24 2019 Received: (at 34504-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2019 03:03:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9hIS-0006kZ-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 23:03:24 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]:37349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1i9hIP-0006kK-SP for 34504-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 23:03:22 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id c17so11139803pgg.4 for <34504-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 20:03:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NtfQxiasC7tXU7vA55+/fwheZG+klXKPj27fa+WCJ1I=; b=G12kpsEgDA1l6ZlCWjOhNfUEd6HxCnDxY1RKljzcRHaE6pCcqqZr6eaTmev894YpOJ St2IwiiQtC5csxBf/xF0x6Lxx+iO0SXI5s9MJDnJIgdDRMrx3HOw69flrHfMfLCrOuY3 eYkvxaYqx1tFKDEAVFpiqasGllk7W52iV/TDL0whuaWj91o1dHDGFlJCKMBBnOkzocwE MTXUx4KvEu9BNL/LdfiobU4m7z9APm0LrOzt+mbTxjjF3VhuAzus6HJRWnJxWG1w0TFc x58oS+Hm4x7AUU+XKkyqPZZ1aCM0kmCGdAVK6KztuWsAoARRkdqXwtpiX2EfxfMmFHFR MCfg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWi9LzlAjkv0VirUYDoB4g2JhbV89PZCU3t1r5O87+x7huvQ3ti LBXbLEW1/qwzEk9MhNci20bzp3bZTChkGxiKcMs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwLUib+YUi5UKX/mw+4stZcD1fPBpivXaQ4cNGfQrCkF0QmggqVpNkeEOpNGyAmBk6LJ1wjT3lZ/Unf5YHzqLQ= X-Received: by 2002:a62:15c7:: with SMTP id 190mr67837800pfv.107.1568602995984; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 20:03:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:03:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#34504: 'pp' causally mentioned To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34504-done Cc: 34504-done@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > tags 34504 notabug > thanks > >> From: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson >> >> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 03:33:50 +0800 >> >> In (info "(emacs) Program Indent") it says: >> Emacs also provides a Lisp pretty-printer in the =E2=80=98pp=E2=80=99= package, which >> reformats Lisp objects with nice-looking indentation." >> >> OK, as there is no hyperlink to click on > > In my version of the manual, that sentence is followed by a hyperlink: > > Emacs also provides a Lisp pretty-printer in the =E2=80=98pp=E2=80= =99 package, which > reformats Lisp objects with nice-looking indentation. *Note pp: > (elisp)Output Functions. > >> say the user eventually finds >> that indeed there is >> $ dlocate /pp\\. >> emacs-el: /usr/share/emacs/26.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/pp.el.gz >> and loads it, but he still cannot use it because there is no further >> example of how, provided, even within that file. E.g., you could mention >> how to pretty print one's .emacs with it. > > pp doesn't by itself pretty-print files, it can only pretty-print Lisp > objects (as the hyperlinked node of the ELisp manual describes). Already marked notabug, and from reading the discussion it doesn't look like there's more to do here. I'm therefore closing this bug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:37:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator