From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Resent-From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 06:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 34498 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15502974684624 (code B ref -1); Sat, 16 Feb 2019 06:12:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2019 06:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBr-0001CW-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBq-0001C6-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBl-0004pA-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBk-0002YZ-A5 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBj-0004oF-Hb for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:00 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.de ([5.45.111.108]:47216 helo=mail.pelzflorian.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBi-0004nO-Sw for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:10:59 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.localdomain (unknown [5.45.111.108]) by mail.pelzflorian.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C51C360035 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:10:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=mail; t=1550297456; bh=KCR3C6F4tupj5Bg8/3o7y+x2QR9+h7qUxDx6hECX9Tc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=ieiLALbQcbU16R/HqL4R/3mykOjTfgmDDBzfA8Y+STqGArjuoeHyUFh8m6TNum9yS PpS7ijYv0ERsI+3LnQbWnpxsAQdxs84WnnsPHBFdfcwpAt6pGLNIWg3R2Q8pMfr98T RFqQEgZiEsFR/cbyo+wQAWfzfoen6drdnsmC4WXM= Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:10:55 +0100 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Message-ID: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 5.45.111.108 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Hello, I am fairly sure #: modules/shepherd/scripts/herd.scm:86 #, scheme-format msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" refers to the value of the #:running slot but translators don=E2=80=99t k= now that and would translate it as a value that is running. This should be changed and a comment for TRANSLATORS should be added. Regards, Florian From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Subject: bug#34498: closed (Re: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%") Message-ID: References: <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 34498 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:35:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1555583703-28321-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1555583703-28321-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 34498@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 34498: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D34498 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1555583703-28321-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 34498-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2019 10:34:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hH4Mv-0007LF-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:34:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51515) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hH4Mt-0007Kx-CR for 34498-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:34:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hH4Mn-0004ku-Qb; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:34:05 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=53536 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hH4Mm-0003vZ-Ni; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:34:05 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: "pelzflorian \(Florian Pelz\)" Subject: Re: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" References: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:34:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:10:55 +0100") Message-ID: <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34498-done Cc: 34498-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > I am fairly sure > > #: modules/shepherd/scripts/herd.scm:86 > #, scheme-format > msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" > > refers to the value of the #:running slot but translators don=E2=80=99t k= now > that and would translate it as a value that is running. This should > be changed and a comment for TRANSLATORS should be added. Done in Shepherd commit 5d418ff0de1ac0a5419344dfe70c08ed464f3797. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. ------------=_1555583703-28321-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2019 06:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBr-0001CW-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBq-0001C6-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBl-0004pA-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBk-0002YZ-A5 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBj-0004oF-Hb for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:11:00 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.de ([5.45.111.108]:47216 helo=mail.pelzflorian.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gutBi-0004nO-Sw for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 01:10:59 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.localdomain (unknown [5.45.111.108]) by mail.pelzflorian.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C51C360035 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:10:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=mail; t=1550297456; bh=KCR3C6F4tupj5Bg8/3o7y+x2QR9+h7qUxDx6hECX9Tc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=ieiLALbQcbU16R/HqL4R/3mykOjTfgmDDBzfA8Y+STqGArjuoeHyUFh8m6TNum9yS PpS7ijYv0ERsI+3LnQbWnpxsAQdxs84WnnsPHBFdfcwpAt6pGLNIWg3R2Q8pMfr98T RFqQEgZiEsFR/cbyo+wQAWfzfoen6drdnsmC4WXM= Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 07:10:55 +0100 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Message-ID: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 5.45.111.108 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Hello, I am fairly sure #: modules/shepherd/scripts/herd.scm:86 #, scheme-format msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" refers to the value of the #:running slot but translators don=E2=80=99t k= now that and would translate it as a value that is running. This should be changed and a comment for TRANSLATORS should be added. Regards, Florian ------------=_1555583703-28321-1-- From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Resent-From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34498 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34498-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34498.15556021199991 (code B ref 34498); Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 34498) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2019 15:41:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42330 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9Al-0002b4-3h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:41:59 -0400 Received: from pelzflorian.de ([5.45.111.108]:36196 helo=mail.pelzflorian.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hH9Aj-0002au-Au for 34498@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:41:58 -0400 Received: from pelzflorian.localdomain (unknown [5.45.111.108]) by mail.pelzflorian.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3338A360038; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:41:56 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=mail; t=1555602116; bh=qhfloGm/yTHpn5T4G0NMJG6xGa3+2i/Sw1+jvscmPlk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=RDm7DN/kMiz3IUD3Xnd1O1RwDDiia3CryA96OvvifSeFzQgTVj1YcL8qSGRnCooVQ QA2/GLaYCrVVspGJFvCeT3Aol07MY7TPGfIv9KIdqc+S6IFRZuNzfiPMj8EOs6HLkM nEVzR7JtQnpn5w0YDj8uUjOcUEQPhf8e10iwohFw= Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:41:56 +0200 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Message-ID: <20190418154155.cboionc4lwy6rzpx@pelzflorian.localdomain> References: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:34:03PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > > > I am fairly sure > > > > #: modules/shepherd/scripts/herd.scm:86 > > #, scheme-format > > msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" > > > > refers to the value of the #:running slot but translators don’t know > > that and would translate it as a value that is running. This should > > be changed and a comment for TRANSLATORS should be added. > > Done in Shepherd commit 5d418ff0de1ac0a5419344dfe70c08ed464f3797. > > Thanks, > Ludo’. No, it is not done. What the manual described as the @code{running} value, i.e. the value of the #:running slot, was understood by at least one translator not as the value of #:running but as a value which runs. > #. TRANSLATORS: The "~s" bit is most of the time a placeholder > #. for the PID (an integer) of the running process, and > #. occasionally for another Scheme object. This is not the information that translators need. Regards, Florian From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34498 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "pelzflorian \(Florian Pelz\)" Cc: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34498-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34498.155560546515503 (code B ref 34498); Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 34498) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2019 16:37:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHA2i-00041z-PD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:37:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHA2h-00041m-Ed for 34498@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:37:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHA2c-00006C-2A; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:37:38 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:6a6c:dc17:fc02:cfda] (port=58374 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hHA2b-0002tY-A3; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:37:37 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> <20190418154155.cboionc4lwy6rzpx@pelzflorian.localdomain> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 29 Germinal an 227 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:37:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190418154155.cboionc4lwy6rzpx@pelzflorian.localdomain> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:41:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87y347p8vl.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:34:03PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: >>=20 >> > I am fairly sure >> > >> > #: modules/shepherd/scripts/herd.scm:86 >> > #, scheme-format >> > msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" >> > >> > refers to the value of the #:running slot but translators don=E2=80=99= t know >> > that and would translate it as a value that is running. This should >> > be changed and a comment for TRANSLATORS should be added. >>=20 >> Done in Shepherd commit 5d418ff0de1ac0a5419344dfe70c08ed464f3797. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Ludo=E2=80=99. > > No, it is not done. What the manual described as the @code{running} > value, i.e. the value of the #:running slot, was understood by at > least one translator not as the value of #:running but as a value > which runs. Yes, that=E2=80=99s what I understood from your message. >> #. TRANSLATORS: The "~s" bit is most of the time a placeholder >> #. for the PID (an integer) of the running process, and >> #. occasionally for another Scheme object. > > This is not the information that translators need. Can you suggest a better comment? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Resent-From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34498 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34498-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34498.155560828120330 (code B ref 34498); Thu, 18 Apr 2019 17:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 34498) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2019 17:24:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHAm9-0005Hq-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:24:41 -0400 Received: from pelzflorian.de ([5.45.111.108]:36300 helo=mail.pelzflorian.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHAm7-0005Hi-6R for 34498@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:24:40 -0400 Received: from pelzflorian.localdomain (unknown [5.45.111.108]) by mail.pelzflorian.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07577360038; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:37 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=mail; t=1555608278; bh=pVZXW70EPdYimT79oSrYBU1oZADemojaBf5Afw8ERow=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=EDB6kul2Q2kkzRgRls0aifaDYHteRIfUw/Sthbsm1T1TB6nop5PatpmhXUeMoytEV ceJmCB37WWzFwg5It0c/4R1hCXdtw6YlLh9Th+m62WCdRNZww2nmLol+nnuNGNoxU+ KGp5a/Mxm3EW+wpt10KFI/tn/6hDb4tcT0ENWUYk= Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:37 +0200 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Message-ID: <20190418172437.zdrwnqlnm5mmidh3@pelzflorian.localdomain> References: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> <20190418154155.cboionc4lwy6rzpx@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87y347p8vl.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87y347p8vl.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 06:37:34PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Can you suggest a better comment? > Maybe: ;; TRANSLATORS: 'running' is the name of a variable. I thought #:running describes the manner in which the service is running. Maybe I misunderstand. Mario Blättermann translated literally before and I changed it to a German translation of " Runs with »running« value ~s.~%" (with a German word for only the first occurrence of “run”). I am sorry for having responded in a rude manner before. Regards, Florian From unknown Fri Jun 13 06:11:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#34498: Confusing msgid " Running value is ~s.~%" Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 08:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34498 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "pelzflorian \(Florian Pelz\)" Cc: 34498@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 34498-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34498.155566119223984 (code B ref 34498); Fri, 19 Apr 2019 08:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 34498) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Apr 2019 08:06:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHOXV-0006Ek-Q6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:06:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hHOXT-0006EW-VE for 34498@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:06:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hHOXO-0004Z2-QV; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:06:22 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=41788 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hHOXN-0003UJ-Tx; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:06:22 -0400 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20190216061055.ia57pbmozniz5akd@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87sgufsiuc.fsf@gnu.org> <20190418154155.cboionc4lwy6rzpx@pelzflorian.localdomain> <87y347p8vl.fsf@gnu.org> <20190418172437.zdrwnqlnm5mmidh3@pelzflorian.localdomain> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 30 Germinal an 227 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:06:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190418172437.zdrwnqlnm5mmidh3@pelzflorian.localdomain> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:37 +0200") Message-ID: <87bm12iflx.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Florian, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 06:37:34PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Can you suggest a better comment? >>=20 > > Maybe: ;; TRANSLATORS: 'running' is the name of a variable. That=E2=80=99s not quite true though (it=E2=80=99s a slot in the = class, technically.) I agree that =E2=80=9Crunning value=E2=80=9D is a confusing phrase. That= =E2=80=99s why I wrote that it=E2=80=99s a PID most of the time, hoping that this would clarify it. > I thought #:running describes the manner in which the service is > running. Maybe I misunderstand. Yeah, it=E2=80=99s really just a PID: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ sudo herd status nscd Status of nscd: It is started. Running value is 446. It is enabled. Provides (nscd). Requires (user-processes). Conflicts with (). Will be respawned. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- We=E2=80=99ve just received new translations, so let=E2=80=99s see if that = looks good. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.