From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 20:54:54 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2019 01:54:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44281 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gtNHi-0004kM-Ln for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58285) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gtNHg-0004k8-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gtNHV-0001Q9-KN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:41 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gtNHN-0002OG-6k; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:36 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: --no-build-details means system-name is nil X-Spook: Brush fire SDI 2600 CBP ATF Transportation security Cyber X-Ran: WwW[c=CSCZq'rW@9C8L3;oF^$i8G$^6)AM/&lDuxHa>eSb:h4xc-kx<(@}HkoW(yt~1mi{ X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Package: emacs Version: 27.0.50 Severity: minor Master at revision 2860f6cec5. If I run emacs -Q --no-build-details then (system-name) returns nil. I expect this switch to only affect the values stored in the Emacs binary, not the run-time result. I'm also not sure why --no-build-details is a run-time option (as opposed to a build-time one). Anyway, this breaks file-locking (cf bug#34355) and makes it impossible to save a file. 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Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:26:57 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iIKQ1-0005PQ-CD; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:26:55 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#34448: --no-build-details means system-name is nil References: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:26:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:54:32 -0500") Message-ID: <87imoxzhaq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Glenn Morris writes: > emacs -Q --no-build-details > > then (system-name) returns nil. I expect this switch to only affect the > values stored in the Emacs binary, not the run-time result. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34448 Cc: 34448@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Glenn Morris writes: > emacs -Q --no-build-details > > then (system-name) returns nil. I expect this switch to only affect the > values stored in the Emacs binary, not the run-time result. Yup. It seems like this was the intention here: void init_system_name (void) { if (!build_details) { /* Set system-name to nil so that the build is deterministic. */ Vsystem_name = Qnil; return; } which is called from static void init_and_cache_system_name (void) { init_system_name (); cached_system_name = Vsystem_name; } which is called from DEFUN ("system-name", Fsystem_name, Ssystem_name, 0, 0, 0, doc: /* Return the host name of the machine you are running on, as a string. */) (void) { if (EQ (Vsystem_name, cached_system_name)) init_and_cache_system_name (); return Vsystem_name; Is --no-build-details just meant to be used during builds? If so, we can just document that, I guess? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 10 03:39:28 2019 Received: (at 34448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2019 07:39:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIT2m-0007Ax-A3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 03:39:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIT2k-0007Al-7U for 34448@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 03:39:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIT2f-0005Ta-1B; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 03:39:21 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4326 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iIT2d-0002jN-Rn; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 03:39:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 10:39:03 +0300 Message-Id: <834l0ht5go.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87imoxzhaq.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:26:53 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#34448: --no-build-details means system-name is nil References: <87imoxzhaq.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34448 Cc: 34448@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 00:26:53 +0200 > Cc: 34448@debbugs.gnu.org > > void > init_system_name (void) > { > if (!build_details) > { > /* Set system-name to nil so that the build is deterministic. */ > Vsystem_name = Qnil; > return; > } > > which is called from > > static void > init_and_cache_system_name (void) > { > init_system_name (); > cached_system_name = Vsystem_name; > } > > which is called from > > DEFUN ("system-name", Fsystem_name, Ssystem_name, 0, 0, 0, > doc: /* Return the host name of the machine you are running on, as a string. */) > (void) > { > if (EQ (Vsystem_name, cached_system_name)) > init_and_cache_system_name (); > return Vsystem_name; > > Is --no-build-details just meant to be used during builds? If so, we > can just document that, I guess? Yes, documenting that would be a good compromise, I think. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 11 03:05:58 2019 Received: (at 34448) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2019 07:05:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIozt-0007Qe-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:05:58 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIozs-0007QS-3i for 34448@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:05:56 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iIozo-0001Xs-EQ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:05:54 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#34448: --no-build-details means system-name is nil References: <87imoxzhaq.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0ht5go.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:05:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834l0ht5go.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2019 10:39:03 +0300") Message-ID: <87a7a7pxrk.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Is --no-build-details just meant to be used during builds? If so, we >> can just document that, I guess? > > Yes, documenting that would be a good compromise, I think. 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I've now done this, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 11 03:06:04 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2019 07:06:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIp00-0007RS-8Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:06:04 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIozy-0007R2-4k for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:06:02 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iIozv-0001Xz-Fy for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:06:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 09:05:59 +0200 Message-Id: <878sprpxrc.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #34448 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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