From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:07:53 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#34331 <34331@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#34331 <34331@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... Reply-To: bug#34331 <34331@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:07:53 +0000 retitle 34331 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... reassign 34331 emacs submitter 34331 "N. 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[184.144.8.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k18sm1444212ioa.39.2019.02.05.06.10.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Feb 2019 06:10:56 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Jackson" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:10:56 -0500 Message-ID: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the paste. Instead, it only undoes the final M-y. One needs to undo over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste op [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the paste. Instead, it only undoes the final M-y. One needs to undo over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste op [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the paste. Instead, it only undoes the final M-y. One needs to undo over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste operation was begun. 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5 Feb 2019 14:22:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60355 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr1c4-0004wj-L4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:22:12 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57630 helo=mx1.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr1c2-0004wW-LA for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:22:11 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DBDB627; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 14:22:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: "N. Jackson" Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... References: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Yow: C'MON, everybody!! I've flown in LESLIE GORE and two dozen KOSHER BUTCHERS! They'll be doing intricate MILITARY MANEUVERS to the soundtrack from "OKLAHOMA"!! Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:10:56 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" wrote: > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the > paste. I disagree. That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too much. To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." 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[184.144.8.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n143sm1735876itn.42.2019.02.05.06.44.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Feb 2019 06:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Jackson" To: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:44:36 -0500 Message-ID: <877eeejnvv.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: merge 14693 34331 quit Sorry, this is a duplicate of a pre-existing bug report [1]. I've attempted to merge this bug with the previous one. [I did actually look for a pre-existing bug report before I began, and opened two potential candidates (including 14693) in my browser -- then got distracted and never read them!] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.166.180 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (nljlistbox2[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.166.180 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 FAKE_REPLY_C No description available. 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[I did actually look for a pre-existing bug report before I began, and opened two potential candidates (including 14693) in my browser -- then got distracted and never read them!] [1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14693 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 05 09:55:36 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2019 14:55:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr28O-00064z-KP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:55:36 -0500 Received: from mail-it1-f177.google.com ([209.85.166.177]:51562) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr28L-00064I-Gh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:55:33 -0500 Received: by mail-it1-f177.google.com with SMTP id w18so9029151ite.1 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=v45kQN3LD4DstB+tCPA3M9Wc6b6UbJhfLWSsLoJciTM=; b=r3v4TnUgHtPjYEuC1r8BBN0Y8qYWBzNG3obCd2fjR73Yc/c2YhtTtr8DZmfUGWeVgs 5RNlxl46If/spH2W63i93bbVvdpx7DhlKVqPkShFXc5tf4ocCgXI7FdTCCZ2168Fxi43 v8mkXqaeTNgLPbv+/v9YpZoITvp9dD6bkMq+pz8c33ISS1bsH3D+gm5/6t3kH5Y1CQK3 6gmYgQxilfEtOycGxcxRyavSo3PkrGRKVd9dBcAlyr8M5+8vNjPETxlqKHncW40Rf1lp jB8QBPvR6bt5pGieYguL2ABTlmlrPOqZfw5ycPJv/VQ9y66RCidQZvOg8oJfJm+r2LCN 07eA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=v45kQN3LD4DstB+tCPA3M9Wc6b6UbJhfLWSsLoJciTM=; b=W72ZHhpT0Jeew4S/ZUosiffxXj3Zc/NBcuz+Z9Rf7yE141FxmyOe4od5B1cC9zdSCe engoZMOv4zGe3/E0z0mmgJM55/KKdlS4L8TzdArMD4yxr/SfXW7LcVoJ16f3nf3QtEjv 5/HqrpczvjKJ0YybxEhX7yKLbOC6N2NQAstG7Wp0KSP24ir57YmQrpEyZDEuaf/CYQIN TCGJXI9gonUUD3o8VkRlM7l5/AbpvV6j4iiaoNQoq0BH630BuWQBOLXmjZ4/TMdFtUkh hV5CSybZLaz7F9fGMpKJWOtO+EZRTDwDYP7IiO9LoXpzBuQE2wt+Ax6H0V31FJRovlFJ clUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAubpsSl/J+TdvTyIfsW5cgjhu5Y17088s+01redI1xd/t8tnEdvo zTCmXvyrqC7HkQJC8WuwFT1tUjZL X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IYAZZQmzKbbgI15BKom0PkvR2W6UzdklHx4Q8gKYgNHU3VZg6EkKCjQA4oxyWTY/C3OCIAf/w== X-Received: by 2002:a02:13c6:: with SMTP id 189mr2802025jaz.117.1549378527429; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 06:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (toroon474qw-lp130-01-184-144-8-158.dsl.bell.ca. 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X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) forcemerge 14693 34331 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 05 10:40:36 2019 Received: (at 34331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2019 15:40:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr2pv-0000kz-OD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:40:35 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:55395) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr2pt-0000kk-Pn for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:40:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1549381226; bh=3OphhYAe12SUBkjLSNffEICBRAYaxaDWVOsrV6OZCA0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GrjiD9mAnsrweWepi1NjVO2qhZ/01+svixTa2MhQw2R+DyZV4X131ceAxy327/be9 lTp9FvM9oCd7j7Tg4y+YfQuRZJZno7I26lwdxy+ITgTdc+0pIRFbuVn/ZQUOrMWx/l W6kPM44SnvgLYSjWSRBAUIIjLkcJVHYzCEMGApIY= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.111.211]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lg3bv-1hSYN72Q1b-00pYzX; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 16:40:26 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: "N. Jackson" Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... References: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 16:40:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:10:56 -0500") Message-ID: <87tvhi9rbq.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bxkbeFuHdx3GaMpNpLmdGZ/kbZjpD6DyAa0s4U5dJri5iJfz0tM C52UFebVrTZ2hAjo/V8d4c4L//zCR0HMB2dkcNtqh76K5Ds6WI4amzwgWtoiyC3gR2vgL1e 7FHXzgWydmQCWSlsOwjNnrl6A+5dIj5hYMgYSDLiaaAz3+gjUr2oIOHvkjC3gC8AJYup2GT ewiHMMZqy6YCO/DwYeisg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:QUDBmOBZ9QM=:CJ1zTm+7T7yXPmT0adEYQq D+6KrVNvXasHAotHusGxjotx+DK1SRJCiyGK2UYNrsWbuGkKcE+mChQ0hqHGctkJtRZsvqWaz YtgOQ09BcnIFSuofH9mblDmCF9iNbtqrZwvh4vBAsgYpesAmSSDOJsiOR/lFeGBcj0DuWT758 Zf/tNPIr3DNP3PRwVn2lxIl1RcV5Rcl+F0j4nUcjupDkwa/ZYmj6IBlcskkxtLj+5ruXZqtaW CCSB3NZIhrKgmNdeSVY2ruzCf9Qivz/8pVea99P0EXacirGy253lsovFAN3Yv1qvpHxCLrzSZ Srk+wGpVuXGdF2ZmXBLjZRt3+vr54djzxcJnDeAd+KV281O2fKjAhatFoQsLhuN8OLwNo9TTN +oAgAWKFz72ItpsYNcz97tivtQP9lxJsTSpPKd+KEX7Hym92IoSPlp9a2cG9txpDRHc6yOFxo Ctpg+z9H/XtElx5TetnlFzj1fHp0vYpWHUSbdWmMyNUvb0mn2yKLQR70JHiVJy2p9/ujomVLA TNjy2vPXLz3GIzHQn5NCV4o48URnY3a6DvOJO2Ge84Sf7ESVOc8Gxb2PaLdFuE5N3Th1rzXgw dCs/jDwNgSDWGkaEEh0Du817c+iJmVI9tWtNgPGAXFqyGZeJN4rqIDt7M5zaxdfkqwnCv3Wsd TP0VL302WeP05v/HdHnvQLgbxrPIuP/79Hw2iRf7gpAh6e/WUJ1UbajDBvTco2QbcRogn424H xmz0gsTZiciasII3lmaWygdO9FD1U+TD9BNq1a2arynQ1fs/PjQINeDqCkDkhX1YGfspwa1Q4 C0aDSmrCyRn1woSnlPa5+8fVJW5v5mla9AL8VdMVzvI+VHfjor2nMQp6Ux86biveizjiXpNqN GjCPgRVtdgT8XrF2FmyuYLAJuNimMl1omRjjJIhRSIBhTRDzwugLx9KHxYK4g7vIlRS6KOffy Vx9gBNkTvJg== X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) "N. Jackson" writes: > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the > paste. Instead, it only undoes the final M-y. One needs to undo > over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste operation > was begun. FWIW, with smart-yank.el in Gnu Elpa you can hit M-y twice in very fast succession to remove the yank no matter how often you have yanked. I say it to mention the alternative approach (to using undo), not to advertise. Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 05 11:45:48 2019 Received: (at 34331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2019 16:45:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33698 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr3r1-00033V-Ll for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:45:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41529) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr3r0-0002xC-CZ for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:45:46 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gr3qs-0001FW-NK; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:45:39 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3968 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gr3qs-0005Ir-B4; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:45:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:45:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83h8ditc9j.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andreas Schwab In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... References: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100 > Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" wrote: > > > After pasting with C-y [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 34331@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100 > Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" wrote: > > > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the > > paste. > > I disagree. That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too > much. To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w. I agree. Both use cases are valid, so if we change something, we should do it in a way that doesn't close the door for any of them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 05 12:11:45 2019 Received: (at 34331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2019 17:11:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4G8-0004yl-TY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:11:45 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:33652 helo=mx1.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4G7-0004yZ-6B for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:11:43 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68582B6A3; Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:11:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... References: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83h8ditc9j.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: .. are the STEWED PRUNES still in the HAIR DRYER? Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:11:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83h8ditc9j.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:45:28 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 34331@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Feb 05 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Andreas Schwab >> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100 >> Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" wrote: >> >> > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the >> > paste. >> >> I disagree. That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too >> much. To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w. > > I agree. Both use cases are valid, so if we change something, we > should do it in a way that doesn't close the door for any of them. Actually, you *can* already easily undo a M-y by typing M-- M-y, thus I retract my objection. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 05 12:26:05 2019 Received: (at 34331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2019 17:26:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4U1-0005KJ-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:26:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57707) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4U0-0005Jq-73 for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:26:04 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4Tt-0007rx-D2; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:25:57 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2550 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gr4Tt-0000cc-5a; Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:25:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 19:25:47 +0200 Message-Id: <83d0o6taec.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andreas Schwab In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:11:37 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... References: <87bm3qjpfz.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83h8ditc9j.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 34331@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:11:37 +0100 > > Actually, you *can* already easily undo a M-y by typing M-- M-y, [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 34331@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 34331@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:11:37 +0100 > > Actually, you *can* already easily undo a M-y by typing M-- M-y, thus I > retract my objection. I don't retract mine, sorry. Undo should also work in that case, because undo is a general command, and it's IMO a nuisance to have to invoke some other command in specific situations instead of undo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 29 10:12:56 2022 Received: (at 34331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 15:12:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPM-0001PT-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:12:56 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53486) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPK-0001PD-RD for 34331@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:12:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XCZ4z8qU3XB4DnqP0uNcwiXroAaOzGYfFfiLQpPx+uc=; b=YOHk/nLINZHe9C24hmc0+PMIVE ULpybTPbFdo00p68FPvaI+N4D6SXztSz/ZM5NHjus0gDnpIDAnq7ERKefyIl0/4kQAB55TuRE4/by lMwKDIhl5mP10xuo+vTXCJIuda54KLHM86BUYN51xFM1wfAF/HrdcrkiVbdljmsPTfpY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPB-0003pf-EH; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:12:47 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ... 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Undo should also work in that case, > because undo is a general command, and it's IMO a nuisance to have to > invoke some other command in specific situations instead of [...] Content analysis details: (-0.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34331 Cc: Andreas Schwab , 34331@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't retract mine, sorry. Undo should also work in that case, > because undo is a general command, and it's IMO a nuisance to have to > invoke some other command in specific situations instead of undo. I think the conclusion here is that we don't want to change how undo works in this case -- it would make undo less predictable if it undid the entire yank instead of the `M-y', so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 29 10:13:03 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2022 15:13:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPS-0001QE-TF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:13:03 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53504) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPR-0001PR-3i for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:13:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=h6MD1/c4RPmENkLOSC7JI3+VotsFJO6V4QBJsSQfwpU=; b=ZQKysXSDTqb99elCMNR932Y69t wNKt6UPLnypxrfovFXyxnky7fZtetGcgqe7dFh+35b+TUz/9C39cCC9ggrkmSlVZHY2lQL1qRwp0n PjrVkoI8a/4PgdNMUjjholMP+XZhdDrtXCkMDTMfOpgcDb9l62Wc1qQai+lkvY+5Y89c=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nDpPJ-0003pm-8w for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:12:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 16:12:51 +0100 Message-Id: <87ilu2bmoc.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #34331 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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