From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:31:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#3428 <3428@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#3428 <3428@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.94; Missing source files? Reply-To: bug#3428 <3428@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 18:31:02 +0000 retitle 3428 23.0.94; Missing source files? reassign 3428 emacs submitter 3428 "Per Starb=C3=A4ck" severity 3428 normal thanks From starback@stp.lingfil.uu.se Sun May 31 04:31:56 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 May 2009 11:31:56 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4VBVn7g011123 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 04:31:50 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:53068 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MAjGW-00057Z-IB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 07:31:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MAjGU-0007O2-BW for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 07:31:47 -0400 Received: from numerus.lingfil.uu.se ([130.238.78.148]:46605) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MAjGT-0007NA-OU for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 07:31:46 -0400 Received: from sonorant.lingfil.uu.se (sonorant.lingfil.uu.se [130.238.78.141]) by numerus.lingfil.uu.se (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4VBVf08020792; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:31:41 +0200 Received: from sonorant.lingfil.uu.se (starback@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sonorant.lingfil.uu.se (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4VBVfNG005499; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:31:41 +0200 Received: (from starback@localhost) by sonorant.lingfil.uu.se (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n4VBVf24005498; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:31:41 +0200 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:31:41 +0200 Message-Id: <200905311131.n4VBVf24005498@sonorant.lingfil.uu.se> From: "Per =?iso-8859-1?Q?Starb=E4ck?=" To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.94; Missing source files? X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) In GNU Emacs 23.0.94: There are several files in emacs-23.0.94/lisp/international that are automatically generated from files that aren't in the Emacs distribution. Is that an oversight? At least charprop.el, eucjp-ms.el, uni-name.el and uni-old-name.el have comments about being automatically generated from such files. The files I'm missing are unidata-gen.el, eucJP-13th.txt, eucJP-udc.txt, eucJP-ibmext.txt and UnicodeData.txt judging by those comments. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Sun May 31 17:46:38 2009 Received: (at 3428) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Jun 2009 00:46:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n510kYJL004923 for <3428@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:46:36 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3709957E24D; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: =?utf-8?Q?Per_Starb=C3=A4ck?= Cc: 3428@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.94; Missing source files? Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:46:59 -0400 Message-ID: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > There are several files in emacs-23.0.94/lisp/international > that are automatically generated from files that aren't in the Emacs > distribution. Is that an oversight? We intentionally don't include these source files. They are not small---UnicodeData.txt is 1.1MB---and they have no further use in Emacs, so it doesn't make sense to include it in the Emacs distribution. You only need to generate these files once, and that's it. However, I think these files need to include the Unicode License Agreement (a permissive free license). I'll do that once Emacs CVS comes back up. From rms@gnu.org Mon Jun 1 16:46:13 2009 Received: (at 3428) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Jun 2009 23:46:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n51Nk9wd030495 for <3428@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:46:10 -0700 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MBHCh-00040G-EY; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:46:07 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Chong Yidong , 3428@debbugs.gnu.org CC: per@starback.se, 3428@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (message from Chong Yidong on Sun, 31 May 2009 20:46:59 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#3428: 23.0.94; Missing source files? Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:46:07 -0400 > There are several files in emacs-23.0.94/lisp/international > that are automatically generated from files that aren't in the Emacs > distribution. Is that an oversight? We intentionally don't include these source files. They are not small---UnicodeData.txt is 1.1MB---and they have no further use in Emacs, so it doesn't make sense to include it in the Emacs distribution. You only need to generate these files once, and that's it. We can package them separately if that is more convenient, but we are ethically bound to make them available somehow. Do we? From cyd@stupidchicken.com Mon Jun 1 18:27:12 2009 Received: (at 3428) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Jun 2009 01:27:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n521R7He015869 for <3428@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:27:08 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DDB157E257; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:27:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 3428@debbugs.gnu.org, per@starback.se Subject: Re: bug#3428: 23.0.94; Missing source files? References: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:27:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:46:07 -0400") Message-ID: <878wkb8lxw.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard Stallman writes: > We intentionally don't include these source files. They are not > small---UnicodeData.txt is 1.1MB---and they have no further use in > Emacs, so it doesn't make sense to include it in the Emacs distribution. > You only need to generate these files once, and that's it. > > We can package them separately if that is more convenient, but we are > ethically bound to make them available somehow. Yes, in the admin/unidata directory of the Emacs source repository. I propose to do the following, WDYT? 1. Add the following header to the generated files (which currently have no copyright header): ;; Copyright (C) 1991-2009 Unicode, Inc. ;; This file was generated from the Unicode data file at ;; http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt. ;; See lisp/international/README for the copyright and permission notice. 2. Add a README file to the lisp/international directory, with the following contents: The following files in this directory are derived from the Unicode Data File at http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt, downloaded on 2006-05-23: charprop.el uni-bidi.el uni-category.el uni-combining.el uni-comment.el uni-decimal.el uni-decomposition.el uni-digit.el uni-lowercase.el uni-mirrored.el uni-name.el uni-numeric.el uni-old-name.el uni-titlecase.el uni-uppercase.el These files were generated from UnicodeData.txt using unidata-gen.el, which is not included in the Emacs distribution; it can be found in the admin/unidata directory of the Emacs source repository. The file UnicodeData.txt is used under the terms of the following Copyright and Permission Notice: Copyright (C) 1991-2009 Unicode, Inc. All rights reserved. Distributed under the Terms of Use in http://www.unicode.org/copyright.html. Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of the Unicode data files and any associated documentation (the "Data Files") or Unicode software and any associated documentation (the "Software") to deal in the Data Files or Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, and/or sell copies of the Data Files or Software, and to permit persons to whom the Data Files or Software are furnished to do so, provided that (a) the above copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear with all copies of the Data Files or Software, (b) both the above copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear in associated documentation, and (c) there is clear notice in each modified Data File or in the Software as well as in the documentation associated with the Data File(s) or Software that the data or software has been modified. 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From rms@gnu.org Tue Jun 2 19:53:27 2009 Received: (at 3428) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Jun 2009 02:53:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n532rNBN021290 for <3428@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:53:24 -0700 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MBgbS-0007gw-2T; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:53:22 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Chong Yidong CC: 3428@debbugs.gnu.org, per@starback.se In-reply-to: <878wkb8lxw.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (message from Chong Yidong on Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:27:07 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#3428: 23.0.94; Missing source files? Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <878wkb8lxw.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:53:22 -0400 This looks good, but this which is not included in the Emacs distribution; it can be found in the admin/unidata directory of the Emacs source repository. should say precisely WHERE the Emacs source repository is. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Jun 3 18:30:30 2009 Received: (at 3428-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Jun 2009 01:30:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n541UQv7018112 for <3428-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:30:27 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 831EE57E259; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:30:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 3428-done@debbugs.gnu.org, per@starback.se Subject: Re: bug#3428: 23.0.94; Missing source files? References: <878wkclr0c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <878wkb8lxw.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:30:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:53:22 -0400") Message-ID: <87vdncn5u4.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard Stallman writes: > This looks good, but this > > which is not included in the Emacs distribution; it can be found in > the admin/unidata directory of the Emacs source repository. > > should say precisely WHERE the Emacs source repository is. OK, done. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:31:02 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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