From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:15:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#34252 <34252@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#34252 <34252@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails Reply-To: bug#34252 <34252@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:15:58 +0000 retitle 34252 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails reassign 34252 emacs submitter 34252 John severity 34252 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 29 16:23:11 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2019 21:23:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqa-0007bK-QT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqX-0007aT-Uu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqS-0005uy-NO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqR-0007Qv-GF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:23:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqQ-0005uO-Ez for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:22:59 -0500 Received: from [217.155.197.248] (port=37978 helo=codemist.co.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1goaqQ-0005iH-8V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:22:58 -0500 Received: from [172.16.4.16] (helo=xenakis.codemist.co.uk) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1goaS0-0008IB-TT; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:57:44 +0000 Received: from jpff by xenakis.codemist.co.uk with local (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1goaRb-0001td-P7; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:57:19 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:57:19 +0000 Message-Id: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 27.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: John To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.155.197.248 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) in case of reading a mail box on a nfs-mounted disk There are two problems; first there are a number of calls to string-match and the like with argument proto which is nil. This crashes Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) string-match("^\\(imap\\|pop\\)s?$" nil nil) rmail-remote-proto-p(nil) rmail-insert-inbox-text(("/var/spool/mail/jpff" "/mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox") t) rmail-get-new-mail-1(nil ("/var/spool/mail/jpff" "/mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox") nil) rmail-get-new-mail(nil) funcall-interactively(rmail-get-new-mail nil) call-interactively(rmail-get-new-mail nil nil) command-execute(rmail-get-new-mail) The patch below improves things --- a/lisp/mail/rmail.el +++ b/lisp/mail/rmail.el @@ -1902,7 +1902,7 @@ rmail-parse-url (host (substring file (or (match-end 2) (+ 3 (match-end 1)))))) - (if (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto)) (if (not pass) (when rmail-remote-password-required (setq got-password (not (rmail-have-password))) @@ -1913,7 +1913,7 @@ rmail-parse-url ;; does not really like it, in spite of the movemail spec. (setq file (concat proto "://" user "@" host)))) - (if (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs) + (if (and proto (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs)) (if (string-equal proto "pop") (list (concat "po:" user ":" host) proto @@ -2072,7 +2072,7 @@ rmail-insert-inbox-text ;; If we just read the password, most likely it is ;; wrong. Otherwise, see if there is a specific ;; reason to think that the problem is a wrong passwd. - (if (and (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) (or got-password (re-search-forward rmail-remote-password-error nil t))) but still fails. It reports it is reading the mailbox and there is a long delay before it returns with a blank buffer looking at RMAIL file and not reading the mail In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 77, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.32) of 2019-01-29 built on xenakis Repository revision: 7a10db87a1ff9a36ff09fcda15cd32f3e719e1b3 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: openSUSE Leap 15.0 Recent messages: File RMAIL is large (86.8M), really open? (y)es or (n)o or (l)iterally y Loading dired-add...done Counting messages...done Getting mail from /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox... movemail: No locks available for /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox (No new mail has arrived) 0 new messages read You can run the command ‘rmail-get-new-mail’ with g 0 new messages read Making completion list... Configured using: 'configure --without-gnutls' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG SOUND GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 XDBE XIM THREADS CANNOT_DUMP GMP Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: auto-image-file-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow emacsbug mime-compose mail-alias-menu url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs json map url-vars shr-color color shr text-property-search svg xml dom browse-url qp rmailmm message rmc puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib mail-parse rfc2231 rmail rmail-loaddefs mailabbrev flyspell mailalias mailcrypt mail-extr comint ansi-color ring ispell sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils find-file misearch multi-isearch elec-pair cal-julian delsel cus-start cus-load image-file crypt crypt++ crypt+pgp-pub paren view cal-china cal-bahai cal-islam cal-hebrew lunar solar cal-dst appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs holidays hol-loaddefs cal-menu easymenu calendar cal-loaddefs time mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 117963 9850) (symbols 48 10775 1) (strings 32 31121 1305) (string-bytes 1 1014103) (vectors 16 34578) (vector-slots 8 400927 23720) (floats 8 737 382) (intervals 56 841 0) (buffers 992 17)) ==John ffitch From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 29 19:34:53 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2019 00:34:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50965 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1godq9-0005cd-73 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:34:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41871) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1godq7-0005cR-Kg for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:34:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35644) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1godq2-0008Rl-8p; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:34:46 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1godq2-00010R-5f; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:34:46 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: John Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> X-Spook: Recruitment Incident $400 million in gold bullion X-Ran: |}cU.W7)Kx2k6PNLisU=-e][:m^5h/G5$3&G5Loi X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:34:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> (John's message of "Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:57:19 +0000") Message-ID: <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) John wrote: > in case of reading a mail box on a nfs-mounted disk It's hard to see how that could make a difference to Rmail. > --- a/lisp/mail/rmail.el > +++ b/lisp/mail/rmail.el > @@ -1902,7 +1902,7 @@ rmail-parse-url > (host (substring file (or (match-end 2) > (+ 3 (match-end 1)))))) > > - (if (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) > + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto)) It's not possible for proto to be nil here. > (if (not pass) > (when rmail-remote-password-required > (setq got-password (not (rmail-have-password))) > @@ -1913,7 +1913,7 @@ rmail-parse-url > ;; does not really like it, in spite of the movemail spec. > (setq file (concat proto "://" user "@" host)))) > > - (if (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs) > + (if (and proto (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs)) Or here. > (if (string-equal proto "pop") > (list (concat "po:" user ":" host) > proto > @@ -2072,7 +2072,7 @@ rmail-insert-inbox-text > ;; If we just read the password, most likely it is > ;; wrong. Otherwise, see if there is a specific > ;; reason to think that the problem is a wrong passwd. > - (if (and (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) > + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) Here I think you may be correct. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 30 13:10:53 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2019 18:10:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gouK4-0001zL-Sd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:10:53 -0500 Received: from [217.155.197.248] (port=50660 helo=codemist.co.uk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gouK3-0001zD-2h for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:10:51 -0500 Received: from [172.16.4.42] (helo=snout.codemist.co.uk) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gouK2-0003MT-29; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) From: john To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails In-Reply-To: <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Message-ID: References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: This could be due to a kernel/NFS problem but te effect on using rmail for my user-base is a real problem. The problems with proto being nil in rmail-remote-proto-p is clearly wrong and despite your s [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) This could be due to a kernel/NFS problem but te effect on using rmail for my user-base is a real problem. The problems with proto being nil in rmail-remote-proto-p is clearly wrong and despite your statement it does happen to me on two diffrent computers/users attempting to read mail in emacs via rmail. This backtrace was before I changed anything Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) string-match("^\\(imap\\|pop\\)s?$" nil nil) rmail-remote-proto-p(nil) rmail-insert-inbox-text(("/var/spool/mail/jpff" "/mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox") t) rmail-get-new-mail-1(nil ("/var/spool/mail/jpff" "/mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox") nil) rmail-get-new-mail(nil) funcall-interactively(rmail-get-new-mail nil) call-interactively(rmail-get-new-mail nil nil) command-execute(rmail-get-new-mail) Note argument to rmail-remote-proto-p is nil. "/var/spool/mail/jpff" is a local file and is always zero length. "/mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox" is mounted from a Debian system using NFS version 3 The NFS issue is described in https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/KernelNFSPageBug which someone pointed me at.... Thank you for your attention ==John ffitch On Tue, 29 Jan 2019, Glenn Morris wrote: > John wrote: > >> in case of reading a mail box on a nfs-mounted disk > > It's hard to see how that could make a difference to Rmail. > >> --- a/lisp/mail/rmail.el >> +++ b/lisp/mail/rmail.el >> @@ -1902,7 +1902,7 @@ rmail-parse-url >> (host (substring file (or (match-end 2) >> (+ 3 (match-end 1)))))) >> >> - (if (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) >> + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto)) > > It's not possible for proto to be nil here. > >> (if (not pass) >> (when rmail-remote-password-required >> (setq got-password (not (rmail-have-password))) >> @@ -1913,7 +1913,7 @@ rmail-parse-url >> ;; does not really like it, in spite of the movemail spec. >> (setq file (concat proto "://" user "@" host)))) >> >> - (if (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs) >> + (if (and proto (rmail-movemail-variant-p 'emacs)) > > Or here. > >> (if (string-equal proto "pop") >> (list (concat "po:" user ":" host) >> proto >> @@ -2072,7 +2072,7 @@ rmail-insert-inbox-text >> ;; If we just read the password, most likely it is >> ;; wrong. Otherwise, see if there is a specific >> ;; reason to think that the problem is a wrong passwd. >> - (if (and (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) >> + (if (and proto (rmail-remote-proto-p proto) > > Here I think you may be correct. > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 30 13:57:52 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2019 18:57:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gov3W-0003AX-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:57:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42417) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gov3U-0003AL-PT for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:57:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gov3N-0008HU-CE; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:57:43 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3706 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gov36-0002EV-Pv; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:57:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:57:14 +0200 Message-Id: <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: john In-reply-to: (message from john on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) > From: john > Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org > > This could be due to a kernel/NFS problem but te effect on using rmail for > my user-base is a real problem. The problems with proto being nil in > rmail-remote-proto-p is clearly wrong and despite your statement it does > happen to me on two diffrent computers/users attempting to read mail in > emacs via rmail. If you leave only the one change in the place where Glenn said proto could be nil, and revert the changes in the other two places, does the problem still happen to you? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 30 14:35:34 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2019 19:35:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51929 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gove1-00045w-N0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:35:33 -0500 Received: from [217.155.197.248] (port=50688 helo=codemist.co.uk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1govdz-00045n-Qi for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:35:32 -0500 Received: from [172.16.4.29] by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1govdy-0003gM-Gt; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:35:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> X-Referenced-Uid: 8493 Thread-Topic: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails User-Agent: Android X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----LMTG881GKRLRKG199CKKIF1XHRLUJ6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails From: John ff Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:34:44 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii Message-ID: X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Will try soon ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​ On 30 Jan 2019, 18:58, at 18:58, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) >> From: john >> Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> This could be [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org, john X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) ------LMTG881GKRLRKG199CKKIF1XHRLUJ6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Will try soon =E2=81=A3Sent from TypeApp =E2=80=8B On 30 Jan 2019, 18:58,= at 18:58, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 = 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) >> From: john >> Cc: 34252@d= ebbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg >> >> This could be due to a kernel/NFS problem but te = effect on using >rmail for >> my user-base is a real problem=2E The probl= ems with proto being nil in >> rmail-remote-proto-p is clearly wrong and de= spite your statement it >does >> happen to me on two diffrent computers/us= ers attempting to read mail >in >> emacs via rmail=2E > >If you leave only= the one change in the place where Glenn said proto >could be nil, and reve= rt the changes in the other two places, does the >problem still happen to y= ou? > >Thanks=2E ------LMTG881GKRLRKG199CKKIF1XHRLUJ6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------LMTG881GKRLRKG199CKKIF1XHRLUJ6-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 30 15:30:03 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2019 20:30:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51955 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gowUk-0005Ru-Qr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:30:03 -0500 Received: from [217.155.197.248] (port=50718 helo=codemist.co.uk) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gowUj-0005R8-0q for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:30:01 -0500 Received: from [172.16.4.42] (helo=snout.codemist.co.uk) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gowUh-0003r3-6F; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:29:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:29:29 +0000 (GMT) From: john To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails In-Reply-To: <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="279718404-971466798-1548880199=:12775" X-ACL-Warn: No reverse lookup X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Just changing lin 2075 it does not crash but after quite a time it says Getting mail from /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox... movemail: No locks available for /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox (No new mail has arrived) 0 new messages read You can run the command rmail-get-new-mail wit [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --279718404-971466798-1548880199=:12775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Just changing lin 2075 it does not crash but after quite a time it says Getting mail from /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox... movemail: No locks available for /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox (No new mail has arrived) 0 new messages read You can run the command rmail-get-new-mail with g 0 new messages read and no mail is read If I understand the message the problem relates to fie locking somewhee. I tried earlier o explain this used to work but after a hardware/software uorade on the server it failed. ==John ff On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:10:29 +0000 (GMT) >> From: john >> Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> This could be due to a kernel/NFS problem but te effect on using rmail for >> my user-base is a real problem. The problems with proto being nil in >> rmail-remote-proto-p is clearly wrong and despite your statement it does >> happen to me on two diffrent computers/users attempting to read mail in >> emacs via rmail. > > If you leave only the one change in the place where Glenn said proto > could be nil, and revert the changes in the other two places, does the > problem still happen to you? > > Thanks. > --279718404-971466798-1548880199=:12775-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 30 22:32:27 2019 Received: (at 34252) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2019 03:32:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gp35X-00014h-3K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:32:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gp35V-00010l-Jj for 34252@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:32:25 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54333) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gp35Q-0004gE-0L; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:32:20 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3530 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gp35P-0004Et-D9; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:32:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 05:32:12 +0200 Message-Id: <838sz11ozn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: john In-reply-to: (message from john on Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:29:29 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:29:29 +0000 (GMT) > From: john > cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org > > Just changing lin 2075 it does not crash but after quite a time it says > > Getting mail from /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox... > movemail: No locks available for /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox > (No new mail has arrived) > 0 new messages read > You can run the command rmail-get-new-mail with g > 0 new messages read > > and no mail is read > > If I understand the message the problem relates to fie locking somewhee. Maybe so, but that's an entirely different problem, I think. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 01 04:18:37 2019 Received: (at 34252-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2019 09:18:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpUy5-0005fW-12 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:18:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpUy2-0005fF-G2 for 34252-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:18:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55046) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gpUxp-0007Yn-UQ; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:18:24 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2230 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gpUxl-0006IO-Ip; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 04:18:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 11:18:14 +0200 Message-Id: <831s4rzx2h.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: <838sz11ozn.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 05:32:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#34252: 27.0.50; rmail-get-new-mail fails References: <8106-Tue29Jan2019205719+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> <5k1in9e55.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a7ji0y9h.fsf@gnu.org> <838sz11ozn.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 34252-done Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 05:32:12 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 34252@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:29:29 +0000 (GMT) > > From: john > > cc: rgm@gnu.org, 34252@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Just changing lin 2075 it does not crash but after quite a time it says > > > > Getting mail from /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox... > > movemail: No locks available for /mnt/snout/home/jpff/mbox > > (No new mail has arrived) > > 0 new messages read > > You can run the command rmail-get-new-mail with g > > 0 new messages read > > > > and no mail is read > > > > If I understand the message the problem relates to fie locking somewhee. > > Maybe so, but that's an entirely different problem, I think. I've now installed the change around line 2075, and I'm closing the bug. Thanks. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:15:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator