From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15460796093556 (code B ref -1); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 10:34:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2018 10:33:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBvt-0000vI-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:33:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBvr-0000uw-SD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:33:28 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBvb-0007Bb-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:33:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBva-0006eA-GQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:33:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBvQ-00073z-Nm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:33:06 -0500 Received: from metalevel.at ([78.46.218.83]:56280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdBbw-000429-BA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 05:12:52 -0500 Received: from mt-mbpro.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894DAA0160 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:12:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by mt-mbpro.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id EBEAEEC7477; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:12:48 +0100 (CET) From: Markus Triska Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:12:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.46.218.83 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) When I invoke Emacs via: $ emacs -Q --eval '(cl-letf ((x t)) x)' then it displays: eval: Symbol=E2=80=99s function definition is void: cl-letf However, the documentation of cl-letf states: "cl-letf is an autoloaded Lisp macro ... " Hence, I expect cl-letf to be autoloaded in that case. Could this be changed to work? Thank you! In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin15.3.0, X toolkit, Xaw scrol= l bars) of 2018-09-22 built on mt-mbpro Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11502000 From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Markus Triska Cc: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33901.15460812276252 (code B ref 33901); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 33901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2018 11:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCLz-0001cl-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:00:27 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:39363) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCLx-0001cc-Ej for 33901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:00:25 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43RgbD33Mtz1r7n3; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43RgbD1BSVz1qvWK; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UInrvMFxaIPS; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:23 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: BImYYvMc0P5ilHauQUBXJ/B2Q+PD8J59HHAhum/wvLs40SQO1a5ixn09dZcjAPL+ Received: from linux.local (ppp-188-174-158-90.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.158.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 583951E5865; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:22 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: X-Yow: Once, there was NO fun... This was before MENU planning, FASHION statements or NAUTILUS equipment... Then, in 1985.. FUN was completely encoded in this tiny MICROCHIP.. It contain 14,768 vaguely amusing SIT-COM pilots!! We had to wait FOUR BILLION years but we finally got JERRY LEWIS, MTV and a large selection of cream-filled snack cakes! Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:00:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Markus Triska's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:12:48 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Dez 29 2018, Markus Triska wrote: > When I invoke Emacs via: > > $ emacs -Q --eval '(cl-letf ((x t)) x)' > > then it displays: > > eval: Symbol’s function definition is void: cl-letf > > However, the documentation of cl-letf states: > > "cl-letf is an autoloaded Lisp macro ... " Those autoloads are only defined in the cl-macs package. You need to load it first. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.154608425311461 (code B ref -1); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:51:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2018 11:50:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8n-0002yn-77 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8l-0002ya-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:51 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8f-0007ib-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8b-00031f-Qr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:45 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCxL-0002DZ-R2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:39:07 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41944 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCxL-0002Cg-KP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:39:03 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCvC-00049Y-BX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:36:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Markus Triska Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:38:53 +0100 Organization: man Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Emacs/26.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9GRVyvaTKa1Jn5/K3R0DyRQ/+8o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Andreas Schwab writes: > Those autoloads are only defined in the cl-macs package. You need to > load it first. Is this really the intended way? I mean, why is this described as an "autoloaded" macro then? From the manual, I gather: The “autoload” feature allows you to call a function or macro whose function definition has not yet been loaded into Emacs. It specifies which file contains the definition. When an autoload object appears as a symbol’s function definition, calling that symbol as a function automatically loads the specified file; then it calls the real ... If I have to load cl-macs before using cl-letf, it seems to be as good as not having an autoload for it at all. Is there any advantage to this? From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Markus Triska Cc: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33901.154608899826929 (code B ref 33901); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 13:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 33901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2018 13:09:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdENJ-00070H-SS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:09:58 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:50547) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdENH-000708-H7 for 33901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:09:56 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43RkSf4s9xz1qwdZ; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43RkSf2pcSz1qvWK; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1UTBXPdxSX87; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:53 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: OtBVG0wGnVGpd4Znzm8DDlsHcCRV3i1u5OcHoGUHKkBXZBcGAf6Kq7vvqcJRs+Eo Received: from igel.home (ppp-188-174-158-90.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.158.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 00B6D2C1160; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:52 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: X-Yow: What a COINCIDENCE! I'm an authorized ``SNOOTS OF THE STARS'' dealer!! Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Markus Triska's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:38:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87k1jstr6n.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Dez 29 2018, Markus Triska wrote: > Andreas Schwab writes: > >> Those autoloads are only defined in the cl-macs package. You need to >> load it first. Replace "cl-macs" by "cl" above, which is what defines the autoloads. > Is this really the intended way? I mean, why is this described as an > "autoloaded" macro then? Because you have loaded the cl package. > If I have to load cl-macs before using cl-letf, it seems to be as good > as not having an autoload for it at all. Is there any advantage to this? The cl package exists of several files. The autoloads arrange for loading only the subset that is actually used. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33901.154616537214608 (code B ref 33901); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 33901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 10:22:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41846 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdYFA-0003nW-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 05:22:52 -0500 Received: from metalevel.at ([78.46.218.83]:38752) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdYF8-0003nN-EJ for 33901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 05:22:50 -0500 Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 207C3A24A4; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:22:49 +0100 (CET) From: Markus Triska References: <87k1jstr6n.fsf@igel.home> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 11:22:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k1jstr6n.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:09:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87o993ia9y.fsf@metalevel.at> User-Agent: Emacs/24.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: >> Is this really the intended way? I mean, why is this described as an >> "autoloaded" macro then? > > Because you have loaded the cl package. To be absolutely honest, for a macro that is documented as autoloaded, I expect Emacs to automatically load all required files. So, in this concrete case, I would expect Emacs to automatically load cl, cl-lib, or cl-macs, or whatever is necessary to use cl-letf. If it does not do this, my impression is that the macro shall not be called autoloaded, on the grounds that the required definitions are not automatically loaded. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Markus Triska Cc: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33901.154621712019320 (code B ref 33901); Mon, 31 Dec 2018 00:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 33901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2018 00:45:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdlho-00051X-Lh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdlhm-00051N-EP for 33901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdlhl-0006Ut-Md for 33901@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:18 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdlhj-0006QM-7q; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:15 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gdlhi-0004YA-0X; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:14 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: LABLINK Bletchley Park pink noise Border Patrol infowar X-Ran: z_5^Inf}%ZX]]pI486LB\#'1?()+0aH1D8^[n%(X[XLy\I|b$mvkKq"_Plr)_jq,l0BeyL X-Hue: brightcyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 19:45:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Markus Triska's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:12:48 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) This is a specific instance of the general problem described in https://debbugs.gnu.org/26782 As such, I would suggest closing this report, since I don't think it adds anything new. 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