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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y21sm17099932iof.51.2018.12.26.11.49.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:49:51 -0800 (PST) From: agrambot@gmail.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:49:28 -0600 Message-ID: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::129 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain This shaves off just over a MB off of the installation using gzip -9. While I was at it, I put in the compression of etc/refcards/*.ps, which covers part of a TODO. I wanted to compress etc/refcards/*.tex as well, but I noticed that it would affect the Makefile that is also installed. It appears to be the only Makefile that's installed; if there's little or no reason for it, would it be okay to remove it during installation and compress the *.tex files as well? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Compress-past-NEWS-files-and-etc-refcards-.ps.patch >From 40bd26ccbbae7c486dc2be39fe21147694889af4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Alexander Gramiak Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 18:06:30 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files and etc/refcards/*.ps Do not compress NEWS or ORG-NEWS as those are actively updated and shouldn't rely on decompression support to be viewed. * Makefile.in (install-arch-indep): Do it. * lisp/help.el (view-emacs-news): Refactor slightly, and support compressed NEWS files when `auto-compression-mode' is enabled. --- Makefile.in | 9 ++++++--- etc/NEWS | 3 +++ lisp/help.el | 28 +++++++++++++++++----------- 3 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile.in b/Makefile.in index f0b2b66c88..bbb028a74a 100644 --- a/Makefile.in +++ b/Makefile.in @@ -541,8 +541,7 @@ set_installuser= ## install-etcdoc installs the relevant DOC. ## Note that we install etc/refcards/*.ps if present. -## TODO we should compress these if GZIP_PROG is set. -## It would be simpler to have a separate install rule for etc/refcards +## TODO It would be simpler to have a separate install rule for etc/refcards ## (maybe move it to doc/refcards?). ## Note that the Makefiles in the etc directory are potentially useful @@ -616,7 +615,11 @@ install-arch-indep: for f in `find . -name "*.elc" -print | sed 's/.elc$$/.el/'`; do \ ${GZIP_PROG} -9n "$$f"; \ done; \ - ${GZIP_PROG} -9n "../etc/publicsuffix.txt"; \ + cd "$(DESTDIR)${etcdir}" && \ + for f in `find . -maxdepth 1 -name "*NEWS*" -not -name NEWS \ + -not -name ORG-NEWS` `find refcards -name "*.ps"` "publicsuffix.txt"; do \ + ${GZIP_PROG} -9n "$$f"; \ + done; \ } -chmod -R a+r "$(DESTDIR)${datadir}/emacs/${version}" ${COPYDESTS} diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS index e427e84780..586e7065d1 100644 --- a/etc/NEWS +++ b/etc/NEWS @@ -37,6 +37,9 @@ functions 'json-serialize', 'json-insert', 'json-parse-string', and 'json-parse-buffer' are typically much faster than their Lisp counterparts from json.el. +** NEWS files for past Emacs versions and packages are now compressed +by default. + ** The etags program now uses the C library's regular expression matcher when possible, and a compatible regex substitute otherwise. This will let developers maintain Emacs's own regex code without having to also diff --git a/lisp/help.el b/lisp/help.el index ad782f74ca..e0738da485 100644 --- a/lisp/help.el +++ b/lisp/help.el @@ -350,16 +350,18 @@ view-emacs-news (mapc (lambda (file) (with-temp-buffer - (insert-file-contents - (expand-file-name file data-directory)) - (while (re-search-forward - (if (member file '("NEWS.18" "NEWS.1-17")) - "Changes in \\(?:Emacs\\|version\\)?[ \t]*\\([0-9]+\\(?:\\.[0-9]+\\)?\\)" - "^\\* [^0-9\n]*\\([0-9]+\\.[0-9]+\\)") nil t) - (setq res (cons (match-string-no-properties 1) res))))) - (cons "NEWS" - (directory-files data-directory nil - "^NEWS\\.[0-9][-0-9]*$" nil))) + (insert-file-contents file) + (let ((section (if (string-match "\\`NEWS\\.\\(1-17\\|18\\)" + (file-name-nondirectory file)) + "Changes in \\(?:Emacs\\|version\\)?[ \t]*\\([0-9]+\\(?:\\.[0-9]+\\)?\\)" + "^\\* [^0-9\n]*\\([0-9]+\\.[0-9]+\\)"))) + (while (re-search-forward section nil t) + (setq res (cons (match-string-no-properties 1) res)))))) + (cons (expand-file-name "NEWS" data-directory) + (directory-files data-directory + t + (format "^NEWS\\.[0-9][-0-9]*%s\\'" + (regexp-opt load-file-rep-suffixes))))) (sort (delete-dups res) #'string>))) (current (car all-versions))) (setq version (completing-read @@ -385,7 +387,11 @@ view-emacs-news ((< vn 18) "NEWS.1-17") (t (format "NEWS.%d" vn)))) res) - (view-file (expand-file-name file data-directory)) + (view-file (or (locate-file file + (list data-directory) + load-file-rep-suffixes) + (error "Requested NEWS file is compressed; please enable \ +`auto-compression-mode' and try again"))) (widen) (goto-char (point-min)) (when (stringp version) -- 2.20.1 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 14 10:57:38 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2019 14:57:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4Rne-0000lm-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:57:38 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175]:40779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4Rnc-0000lZ-Ez for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:57:37 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f175.google.com with SMTP id u9so4148711pgo.7 for <33880@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 07:57:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=0g6+mcs/nfVAM28oHHDPPf+j62sX6K9OuvenOQUGqZs=; b=vFD29A+l7HbLWgH3qHqwZKARfMuYd7F+2lyxkHb+w4KflMgsVhMJ7DIo8v+JGqTyfC 1znYYumg8ehl3Y7U6QzSuolQ90oyGjONHMJTFT/lOjm6gVPXnfUotEmFvEl8hJgntQz4 JeQVn4lmUJlfL3e9oe8g77EgY4gWXV6V+JNclB3LLZKuCRMNb6dsxa66TsGEl6XO7JiK 0uzVQ422IkTyqJwzNLcj/oZxI3QVSg/+Cahr+qp64DRA4yhd8qLa4n2Znj/9pGtyVozm CMlyQbvF4SIMNg8XoSSiCiDMZ2lQTko8lv2U6/X0ZTtskGT8O64gf869QWzjZMuhdPMW ZJwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=0g6+mcs/nfVAM28oHHDPPf+j62sX6K9OuvenOQUGqZs=; b=aQhaC0Hjc4v3aK/TbMcqwzOInoQRnKgN2ZVa+gQzSRc7tS1mSZ1JtxLIsx1PnEQLxQ XL0MfLzhFOBQ5BFn2I4MEDq2Ipk6L3b/J6l7xRL6rn5qwv0/JKcowD9MrbKbCcfn0DXI zPiBHAka95+APhp0MHxPypx5UHNMcLMhTxJle/0ghEoPLprwxYFi4yO2Ba5aLnugBdGU w1CdzoqvU6oKISZhpDizlc/pchU3yEcsOahZU3KWlHX2FvPp73UX2yxr9z2zRAtIibA4 AO06iAonFnrFgZIAsHjPWqLnUfzND0gmCP5M7iidMOSOKX4Rvs5I/OX24tRUrxDUTndQ +fGA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV9KOPFyGW7pOWLKDcvqBvfAfkVKpIkKmTb6hrMKO3tnLn8WIYN 0Lhkx8h2h63uN7mpgI6DfTBU6c/c X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxrtXyoM4kpcXMrLK/WdnLtKyXE6fCVGeVUiso6+TZzHpv5wzOkoICC9NiVZ1ZTfZ21+dcC8g== X-Received: by 2002:a63:b242:: with SMTP id t2mr45666621pgo.451.1552575450062; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lylat (S010664777d9cebe3.ss.shawcable.net. [70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p88sm4008297pfa.80.2019.03.14.07.57.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 07:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:57:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> (agrambot's message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:49:28 -0600") Message-ID: <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) agrambot@gmail.com writes: > This shaves off just over a MB off of the installation using gzip -9. > While I was at it, I put in the compression of etc/refcards/*.ps, which > covers part of a TODO. > > I wanted to compress etc/refcards/*.tex as well, but I noticed that it > would affect the Makefile that is also installed. It appears to be the > only Makefile that's installed; if there's little or no reason for it, > would it be okay to remove it during installation and compress the *.tex > files as well? Ping. Is this okay to apply to master? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 14 11:15:07 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2019 15:15:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4S4Z-0001DQ-Dw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:15:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57505) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4S4X-0001CV-G0 for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:15:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39118) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h4S4O-0000D6-JU; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:14:58 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2921 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h4S4N-0006Yj-K1; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:14:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:14:34 +0200 Message-Id: <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex In-reply-to: <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Alex on Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:57:13 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Alex > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:57:13 -0600 > > agrambot@gmail.com writes: > > > This shaves off just over a MB off of the installation using gzip -9. > > While I was at it, I put in the compression of etc/refcards/*.ps, which > > covers part of a TODO. > > > > I wanted to compress etc/refcards/*.tex as well, but I noticed that it > > would affect the Makefile that is also installed. It appears to be the > > only Makefile that's installed; if there's little or no reason for it, > > would it be okay to remove it during installation and compress the *.tex > > files as well? > > Ping. Is this okay to apply to master? Sorry for not responding earlier. I don't think compressing *.ps files is a good idea, because then they cannot be printed without manually uncompressing them. As for NEWS, I don't have a strong opinion, but it sounds like a very small gain for the trouble. What do others think? Perhaps this should be discussed on emacs-devel first. Thanks. 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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c63sm1406098itc.21.2019.03.14.08.43.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 08:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:43:26 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:14:34 +0200") Message-ID: <875zsl797l.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Sorry for not responding earlier. No worries. > I don't think compressing *.ps files is a good idea, because then they > cannot be printed without manually uncompressing them. That makes sense; I just saw the TODO and figured that I might as well do it while I was there. > As for NEWS, I don't have a strong opinion, but it sounds like a very > small gain for the trouble. What do others think? Perhaps this > should be discussed on emacs-devel first. > > Thanks. I don't think it's much trouble (though I admit that a MB isn't much of a deal these days), especially after the patch has already been made. I'll make a thread over there. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 14 11:54:24 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2019 15:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43904 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4Sga-0002GO-5x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:54:24 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:40361) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4SgY-0002GA-Dm for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:54:23 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([178.20.94.126]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ld0fQ-1geAPG2w3E-00iBU0; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:54:14 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:54:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:14:34 +0200") Message-ID: <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:91BSzACLiu5aFPgVHvsFL/VASuJ1vlRVHkuOzhAT8h3uGiOWBDi 7whRrNxxAOmNfBI73nqBAN+cHm8AaFOpOm718L7Pwzhdy6FPnZ6x1Ld/gkVa/jWNyzMNIT2 sgwCUAKlP762nOm1kvkf7kwHAOArh8k1Mk091uOZFhZ9ze7Qt+FU/NarlmVrIy30E0qxK2f dzbxiDCfgzyuWV8nSZm6g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ne5fQLbkzjw=:b+0w0N41YeUm/Yjgn/Zia4 r30Ua8SzAwYFrTkRNgNAOWrVixuG/W21x3OjQGTc8uFyDnTRFUjtdLLIlOe4hhiz3Gszrwmki PAbAajHknja3I49W9NC58ByQZMU5QYEMPUjDsj3u458FSiB15/g16w5ARBIQeyDZ3TtavZoGT XEkx5uyL9612lleDrlv3LRl2Ym9gIb1hnV9J6wG4px3lWoqY63RrRB93ZGfXsTkhLe/F+rYAX pt5BgpLtJGLFqMY5BIvwAAyviDL82hGsAQhzMjXG3JDM9RAA5Fl19epRDtz1+JmolvpmAlzI0 hTNLCe6WFmlIhCSDQ3iKD05MaAVTNMRoqi73N5cdsXzhtiuipotj/nPXuvomJn6/LdjGCkWA/ x2jTEVi3vj4ACoIZiO4KmuLwe1MmT7wquh0TCCZecJHCjuP2kEVKA8IRC8dQ3VU25hBg4+WSi fQRe5YXT0aAfFPjpRSl65Ib95N/mT6F46fL2bZLfphIir+Oeuy4UcX0N1PG0EKrpVe0Me+luQ MlvSd989jVcf0+VKksjtvCU9tpv2b69t1hRjklcjwA8wJVIZHDecEqdUN1K4GypXKT2kQqvNu HRc7Gt4pnd/sDFXF4ZhX7SJ4/c8QVIxR1QH/UeUqTuDjrD/Y7/h0Kdiagu1CqQnNOpQhKoFLc nW7pR4YWELaElYo7yfroA5WH9lbbBHHWYepGY1Exg0XpPDhcJokhaB3E+s4tZ9sAPEf6BXpBh 2QbAbhHn/fpTyuSlgLAlnWlQR4qnPz7ADy2Hlz/06b/PLvt0Zod2Nuo8ZzX/l19VtZnA4vIYi 1ab/j5JjNg2KJJubPRJu5RtG3BxjxFWo2rEw83cAuHiWGSGVRNMnvHsllC33qz/OxjpMabHs6 +n3tRRBMYj+AIrFxtBbHDOmZIrERKlNPwDT8qqCyhnXK8lslWUIlNqfLiI6wLBe14UuBdIupr 7uNDv/6DkrA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, Alex X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > As for NEWS, I don't have a strong opinion, but it sounds like a very > small gain for the trouble. What do others think? Perhaps this > should be discussed on emacs-devel first. IIRC, Stefan wrote a small code snippet which scans NEWS files and tries to determine, when a Lisp object was added to Emacs. I don't know whether this would still work with compressed NEWS files. Given, that disk space of 1 MB is nothing today, I'm not in favour of such a compression. I don't know what it is good for, honestly. > Thanks. Best regards, Michael. 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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j143sm1581393itj.16.2019.03.14.09.23.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:23:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:54:13 +0100") Message-ID: <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> As for NEWS, I don't have a strong opinion, but it sounds like a very >> small gain for the trouble. What do others think? Perhaps this >> should be discussed on emacs-devel first. > > IIRC, Stefan wrote a small code snippet which scans NEWS files and tries > to determine, when a Lisp object was added to Emacs. I don't know > whether this would still work with compressed NEWS files. It should work similarly to scanning *.el.gz files. Depending on how the snippet was made (e.g., with a regex that accepts *.gz NEWS files), it might even work with no changes. > Given, that disk space of 1 MB is nothing today, I'm not in favour of > such a compression. I don't know what it is good for, honestly. It's indeed barely anything, but I also don't see much of a reason to not do it. If we're already compressing a bunch of files, why not compress the stale NEWS files at the same time? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 14 14:00:06 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2019 18:00:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44012 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4UeE-0005PT-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:00:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4UeC-0005OT-2W for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:00:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h4Ue6-0004Yc-Kz; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:59:58 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1167 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h4Ue4-0001vo-Ti; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:59:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 19:59:37 +0200 Message-Id: <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex In-reply-to: <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Alex on Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:23:16 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Alex > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 33880@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:23:16 -0600 > > It's indeed barely anything, but I also don't see much of a reason to > not do it. If we're already compressing a bunch of files, why not > compress the stale NEWS files at the same time? FWIW, I use those "stale" NEWS files all the time, because I frequently need to establish what was a version of Emacs where some feature was first introduced or announced. 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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x191sm60266itb.8.2019.03.14.14.33.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:33:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2019 19:59:37 +0200") Message-ID: <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Alex >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 33880@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:23:16 -0600 >> >> It's indeed barely anything, but I also don't see much of a reason to >> not do it. If we're already compressing a bunch of files, why not >> compress the stale NEWS files at the same time? > > FWIW, I use those "stale" NEWS files all the time, because I > frequently need to establish what was a version of Emacs where some > feature was first introduced or announced. Oh, I didn't mean that "no one uses these dusty old files", but rather "no one often uses these files outside of Emacs". If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses the files on the fly. I think compression here is less of an issue than it is for Emacs Lisp files, which are already compressed and used for source code lookup all the time. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 14 18:01:20 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2019 22:01:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4YPg-0003GX-Iw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:01:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43851) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4YPd-0003GK-KP for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:01:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45971) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h4YPO-0003g3-WC; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:01:06 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h4YP0-0000Ik-Iy; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:00:42 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Alex Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: eternity server FAA Arnett UMTS SAPO Adriatic benelux X-Ran: 7@nrI!Qd()1WI53d#ow8=;Lk|nZZLQ|Kx)_Xv@gm@fx9]mM&H0*zX_'B"sEg5|q"W}sb@< X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:00:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:33:24 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , michael.albinus@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) FWIW, I think files like NEWS belong in /usr/share/doc (bug#25781, I haven't found any time to work on it yet). I think compressing the files installed there would be very natural. (Eg Debian seems to compress text files in /usr/share/doc by default. Looks like Red Hat does not, though.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 00:54:19 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2019 04:54:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44307 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4erL-0004vy-6a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h4erJ-0004vj-D4 for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h4erD-00032K-Ru; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2001 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h4erD-0001ns-A6; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:54:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 06:53:52 +0200 Message-Id: <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex In-reply-to: <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Alex on Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:33:24 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Alex > Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 33880@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:33:24 -0600 > > If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses > the files on the fly. I usually grep them outside Emacs. 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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w12sm2389323ioa.38.2019.03.16.11.28.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Mar 2019 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:28:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2019 06:53:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Alex >> Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, 33880@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 15:33:24 -0600 >> >> If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses >> the files on the fly. > > I usually grep them outside Emacs. Any chance you have zgrep on your system? If not, then do you not have an uncompressed git repository directory to grep? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 16 14:52:44 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2019 18:52:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h5EQG-00042W-16 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:52:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h5EQD-00042H-Qn for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:52:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5EQ7-0001QO-VY; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:52:36 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4816 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h5EQ5-0007O0-AP; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:52:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:51:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83d0mqy7n4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Alex In-reply-to: <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Alex on Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:28:16 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Alex > Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:28:16 -0600 > > > I usually grep them outside Emacs. > > Any chance you have zgrep on your system? It's a Posix shell script, so not very useful on MS-Windows. > If not, then do you not have an uncompressed git repository directory to > grep? Not on every machine I work on. Besides, sometimes I need to look in a released Emacs, whose sources are in a separate tree. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 16 16:08:42 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2019 20:08:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Fbm-0007ss-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 16:08:42 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:40235) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Fbk-0007se-H2 for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 16:08:41 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.249.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lq9oW-1gaZYf0oFc-00dlgW; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:08:33 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Alex Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:08:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex's message of "Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:28:16 -0600") Message-ID: <87k1gy8tvk.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lytLYJrN7Nk/Q2Q7UXUZB8qp2C1k6vcVAHuAQ4haQYpZCRzWPM2 Jt9f08budaD7WqZ+HbHDkoTBdA6wxfISTrnf7PEhCCDwnR/czPUDGoIpWgssJOK8xWVJcla Jiu6axGW/tKV+FRwauP7w63gjCGf3tR0ekH/TkcaCRDEhnksQU2jwnizHJWulSQWGqu1766 qwRhNbZ2+3H/3PMOY68Cg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:o5FFvtN8qt4=:LqluX1USEqipIG+nJMPSBr LdNloT/ucUTGV87wYqkAbd2WcuRB72sCjEFsc9kFxWOoHUNJNXBkee6xE0phjJrGswAatVo5F 93Trmrih5sFQ4bLVwvKtYHgU+6ZT/XmGM0tbxfPUJRC7nSHwx4ptv76kZpw1mGq//S8SUBU2c /EOTrpePzV3nKFva3Tg1xEQNIXgI/GOpCKRPVwjpZynZX/A1vZG4N1XXzRgh4AlKnNubreBLj 6hPqldziKC5pOi+7NQB0QOrms0t7Gkj8A0PD2OfQvMdnP1N+vRMgH6MF94fjFJuVAsoFhKC51 rMG9R3ZPF15hYqzmCxaOEduvm1NFsigjeM1mVoRL0j6K/V6OMfy91xXY+S4+Nrk1KOLaQ6ps2 iUUFE4tbkrC+8km1EZdaB4sIwp3zTRbc/eTql2BXkXpqd679LsIYejzLW55fymt2alCjRuQpG ZgMTb8pyow88kqm/vY1bFBRnFqoVi4B9P4CXDT7V0TLxuv2nd71DgEWZlT61Zy4DbpgYrpijR +Krlw2ghnLrpqEbcyTNiCUCdXLZvx/NYwhujbpEbNp68TTnPy4iIEhxaujb0uSlx9CqyU3xqI uczc1OIWGojREsht9Ix5jS2wFFSh+bM75PseKawDirmdo/hMZ16bDwJhNAi8LFQ+wtiivnntY wYp3kGLgnLmSj4QtjTzUBaWgu8lOTzv6n1PgQpQh2MZnhY8XofYVfyqPIGYUGqMpV9x/MzpFb 6LgdR0m5JiU5ku7YWrEAUsWB+lx1O7wMhUzEd7KOrxR0sziW/II9Ytt9yq8rGftH0JhtIxVHZ meHfEYG4rCruWdUlhmYKFpcgSobRpOGPK0AfvtCca9vofAMZSLtV3cfqLDCO7bzdl30r2tOrq R2yVCYsRUyNlihKQCSMuiKTQ793vgixv05MBURO0O9bFpjZ3EOJgv9BwCjy2pDoswEKBc1cGu VbHo/WryfMg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex writes: Hi Alex, >>> If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses >>> the files on the fly. >> >> I usually grep them outside Emacs. > > Any chance you have zgrep on your system? I believe we could find a solution for all these problems. But I still don't understand why we should. Maybe you said it already, and I didn't care enough: could you pls say, what is the advantage of compressed NEWS files, that we must do this. Best regards, Michael From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 23 16:02:36 2019 Received: (at 33880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2019 20:02:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8hA-000896-Bo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:02:36 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8h9-00088u-4i for 33880@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:02:35 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8h3-0001O6-1C; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:02:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#33880: [PATCH] Compress past NEWS files during installation References: <87wonw3w6v.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7hx7bcm.fsf@gmail.com> <83zhpx1o9x.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2b9xxi2.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgvp5ssr.fsf@gmail.com> <83va0l1gmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm2d5efv.fsf@gmail.com> <83imwk20wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8c2llmn.fsf@gmail.com> <87k1gy8tvk.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:02:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k1gy8tvk.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:08:31 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Michael Albinus writes: > Alex writes: > > Hi Alex, > >>>> If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses >>>> the files on the fly. >>> >>> I usually grep them outside Emacs. >> >> [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33880 Cc: 33880@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Alex X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Alex writes: > > Hi Alex, > >>>> If you view them in Emacs, then `auto-compression-mode' decompresses >>>> the files on the fly. >>> >>> I usually grep them outside Emacs. >> >> Any chance you have zgrep on your system? > > I believe we could find a solution for all these problems. But I still > don't understand why we should. > > Maybe you said it already, and I didn't care enough: could you pls say, > what is the advantage of compressed NEWS files, that we must do this. The space gain here was quite small, and there are drawbacks to compressing the NEWS files, and nobody seemed really enthusiastic about it, so I think the decision is not to do this, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 23 16:02:40 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2019 20:02:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8hD-00089O-Nr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:02:39 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8hC-00089H-25 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:02:38 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hf8h9-0001OD-B0 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:02:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 22:02:35 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #33880 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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