From unknown Sun Aug 17 22:00:32 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#33678 <33678@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#33678 <33678@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Locale problems Reply-To: bug#33678 <33678@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 05:00:32 +0000 retitle 33678 Locale problems reassign 33678 guix submitter 33678 Danny Milosavljevic severity 33678 normal tag 33678 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 16:36:18 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2018 21:36:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGn-0005dI-Ro for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGm-0005d6-7Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGg-0004lG-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGg-0004lC-Ar for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGf-0007zs-J1 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGa-0004kW-KJ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:09 -0500 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:48656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVkGa-0004kM-CJ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:36:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (178.113.145.90.wireless.dyn.drei.com [178.113.145.90]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 32D3D3360303 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:36:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:35:51 +0100 From: Danny Milosavljevic To: Subject: Locale problems Message-ID: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/suLBbLfY8oYGYLBazOu5gmg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) --Sig_/suLBbLfY8oYGYLBazOu5gmg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can we do something against the locale problems that keep showing up when updating? Right now, after a half-finished update from guix master (half-finished bec= ause once any package build breaks, the entire update will stop), I cannot use a= ny Umlauts because "xterm -u8" stops working as it should: $ xterm -u8 Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged $ Why does this keep happening? Shouldn't the functional nature and modulari= ty of Guix keep using the old locales where those make sense and the new local= es where those make sense? Environment: $ locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory C POSIX $ echo $LC_ALL de_DE.utf8 $ echo $LANG en_US.utf8 $ echo $GUIX_LOCPATH /run/current-system/locale $ ls $GUIX_LOCPATH/2.28/en_US.utf8/ LC_ADDRESS LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_MONETARY LC_PAPER LC_COLLATE LC_MEASUREMENT LC_NAME LC_TELEPHONE LC_CTYPE LC_MESSAGES LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME $ ls xxx ls: Zugriff auf 'xxx' nicht m=C3=83=C2=B6glich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nich= t gefunden $ ^^ Note: Message is in German, as it should. I left in the mangled Umlauts for documentation purposes. --Sig_/suLBbLfY8oYGYLBazOu5gmg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAlwMOTcACgkQ5xo1VCww uqXmCwf9FCxcqZ1dByCkIH1+HXKWHIRXO4s7zVxygab5PZdsAeCmhMVtxx6womOw f5jkJReX+D3Q9lse4bk/ZZfeabCrAmIl+0IdsaI2WF4DK1zTkJDLS3dmdGAz9Hye UnefJFTQo7P4gHgkMcPcQXzcYUsDs0stZCjb3A0cMx463sJpMq4vlQnHmozpWYe4 0Uf2Ed7MLdyivksszbCiC1gPTX67gMFB7yqvKXqfjuau4vaM2SA2LP0QGFdv2HBE ZMMB9hXOUvoipQKHLJaLj1kmwty9r9IdqhZS4atTWedrL5Lw4hLcBtWoWJ5ND+jU 2a04Odlira8eofzP5MH+h40E2e47GQ== =YgTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/suLBbLfY8oYGYLBazOu5gmg-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 17:35:21 2018 Received: (at 33678) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2018 22:35:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38872 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlBx-00075N-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:35:21 -0500 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:38128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlBu-00075B-E8 for 33678@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:35:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (178.113.145.90.wireless.dyn.drei.com [178.113.145.90]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1340E336038A for <33678@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:35:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:35:09 +0100 From: Danny Milosavljevic To: 33678@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33678: Locale problems Message-ID: <20181208233509.79aaf59d@scratchpost.org> In-Reply-To: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> References: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/K5BGxuxGrHCA1.SwxyNzWjf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33678 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --Sig_/K5BGxuxGrHCA1.SwxyNzWjf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Aha, updating just xterm fixes the problem). When locales don't work, I can't enter umlauts at all - they get replaced b= y a "generic" character that isn't an umlaut, even when checked using a hexdump tool. So not only couldn't I see the umlauts, I couldn't type them blindly either. --Sig_/K5BGxuxGrHCA1.SwxyNzWjf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAlwMRx0ACgkQ5xo1VCww uqUBfAf+Kf/94iwzPrjBNj21/bqB2lVHwTV2JqjRFsnbMDmm0csPz87CfC/ZdRnb A3I2OgJwVXDetflkiuy4bS3KYzjQq/cKguP/WZxg8zoS7dIB+3btPjyUnhqrvnvi Es3kvBGRWOdqQOSZd3ArRMYGbTjXsgu0x/K4fhhtPXjc15hp79P34G2OoPJZTpPD e4hOBVMwo6Akud1kW/3Zrj5FooQPN2iZABfI4uZI87ypdcMF89FPiJqWXd7yh8gm pUu+ZkPvQuJ8Ni84DdzvoZHMRFRuP5KV8OOwPafWCuyULRzXVk5dkY8sfM1uOKOC oVGMoNBBux2PVtRL0Ppw0X1hfgaQOA== =mIcz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/K5BGxuxGrHCA1.SwxyNzWjf-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 17:56:35 2018 Received: (at 33678) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2018 22:56:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38882 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlWV-0007ae-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:56:35 -0500 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:48123) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlWS-0007aP-Qo for 33678@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:56:33 -0500 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1A9217CF; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:56:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:56:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm1; bh=Rpchu1fif24cn+C0Y7MOJ7zxTM SBlm/bh81PYKbqGmk=; b=Eh/yGDSlaxFsB/CAHbGSYU14W9beiDtnk0aS4rpMfl byjYPAxbcMIW9ODqtnVSfZL2BzxxbNmP7kxnG7z2VCurG/VrgzeIfXCUjwMuELUS 9ia5nMHu2pMWA0ATwezm3iIIDYZWvpjlgpynVNxsbpbhruc6SrStcPrLCHKbDgQA 7doagmWjCBktueeMHm8QGTpjaGcgVFL7HASGugXuHsOw2Y9bKTky+DNfacXVGN1t IpzJjJhAeMOQJKtEAcaEaSU4yPqzt+21DCKNtxGh9N4uvMoKi0VMbVMizFFSfDIx uSCa6zrzfvMC18vEnYT1CfmL5x6vcxa0S9QBYVwbaxqw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Rpchu1 fif24cn+C0Y7MOJ7zxTMSBlm/bh81PYKbqGmk=; b=DatWS+NgACcN8/bglH6mjK 7ZpqgLE7mothwW11Y6XZ5A/1W15SzScds5nKHvv3incoglLd3x7IIvZ1doC9uZA4 tPSDVHZRzTVjCWr4Tz9jHhbNuarKti407hjvqJ0m1uZzLrzIigy4xzTtvNoAfJqO bMSnYNBZquVLPMpxhEAp1xhiOt3TorEFF5LYV7Aym9jM3cpzkIYCDk5ClVhGXsua EEGCpH2FLoI6p9BKnq6pIr5Imxk+qJZP4gg4mByQO5F8RnUeR6VsueEV93htfMkQ fiCTvy5mZqSTEryyZzqyUNttMXejjEcNsxhjv1CQCLw5etZwc7/+KavSx54Z0qUg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrudeguddgudeikecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfhuthenuceurghilhhouhhtmecu fedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufgjfh gffffkgggtsehgtderredtredtnecuhfhrohhmpeforghrihhushcuuegrkhhkvgcuoehm sggrkhhkvgesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdgtohhmqeenucfkphepiedvrdduiedrvddviedrud egtdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhgsrghkkhgvsehfrghsthhmrghilhdr tghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from localhost (140.226.16.62.customer.cdi.no [62.16.226.140]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 81764102E0; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:56:26 -0500 (EST) From: Marius Bakke To: Danny Milosavljevic , 33678@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33678: Locale problems In-Reply-To: <20181208233509.79aaf59d@scratchpost.org> References: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> <20181208233509.79aaf59d@scratchpost.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.28 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/26.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2018 23:56:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87va43sk4n.fsf@fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33678 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Danny Milosavljevic writes: > (Aha, updating just xterm fixes the problem). > > When locales don't work, I can't enter umlauts at all - they get replaced by a > "generic" character that isn't an umlaut, even when checked using a hexdump > tool. > > So not only couldn't I see the umlauts, I couldn't type them blindly either. Does adding locales for both the new and old libc to your system help? E.g.: (operating-system [...] (locale-libcs (list glibc-2.27 (canonical-package glibc)))) ? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEu7At3yzq9qgNHeZDoqBt8qM6VPoFAlwMTBkACgkQoqBt8qM6 VPqWhAgA0IyCuBwkcMKyRecR9in/89SPiPmsX2mjdCo9kI9ZVBxL1KLv6Bb6AtzT AJQEYK7cZsurSLLYMckVyTuzC29N1d+e8rujwdW72+rnryNM6me9/V/M4Qt9E4W0 QSiEeuUi0VASyyIF+nOngFglBOscfER2CfBExufkiqkpUSbzgjXGZDzuhsDTMXfE avd0H8Ph9PTKqyL0CMqvvA+wSFNlUPkNM/09V4p8ydSm1CnL2oaaIKn7Fp6elgEX Ghc/8rwOfDN3lLPoM0g6mYCuNhDx/jEpmj2bkhKZJf+wo+uclll3rDIvw39qLbv9 PEwJbYbrmWSCTo6xJIDKQhLSLqpWuA== =Yo/a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 17:59:10 2018 Received: (at 33678) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2018 22:59:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlZ0-0007eL-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:59:10 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.de ([5.45.111.108]:48528 helo=mail.pelzflorian.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVlYy-0007e8-4a for 33678@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:59:08 -0500 Received: from pelzflorian.localdomain (unknown [5.45.111.108]) by mail.pelzflorian.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6239360038; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:59:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=mail; t=1544309946; bh=GFfQ3L3miPxuN3QSvS3ZMsqDAmS4L6K+fqVEr3aNNVE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=DCOli6XSAgHHKlUfANOAwaoB/Y23AEBJjcDqn19O2WIHYBJSCls6Mh+YtX2zbi/RS aC56U9gP7wrtjAPQHy5IVq2jXLOAAh2XM+djb2MVfJBi+Ti5mFt7zVyVpStT2bYL0K FPMDLI4brdcrz75MvEOx+ajy25dBJDydDFfDHxhI= Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:59:06 +0100 From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Danny Milosavljevic Subject: Re: bug#33678: Locale problems Message-ID: <20181208225906.bqlagnuzxnrgqqlq@pelzflorian.localdomain> References: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33678 Cc: 33678@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 10:35:51PM +0100, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > Can we do something against the locale problems that keep showing up > when updating? > > Right now, after a half-finished update from guix master (half-finished because > once any package build breaks, the entire update will stop), I cannot use any > Umlauts because "xterm -u8" stops working as it should: > $ xterm -u8 > Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged > $ > > Why does this keep happening? Shouldn't the functional nature and modularity > of Guix keep using the old locales where those make sense and the new locales > where those make sense? > > Environment: > > $ locale -a > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory Is this only on foreign distros? I cannot reproduce this in a Guix VM. These errors occurred for me on the foreign distro Debian also for Debian commands like localectl because the locale command was taken from a glibc in root’s guix profile. I uninstalled the glibc package and now Debian’s locale commands work again. `strace locale` made it seem like the directory for the de_DE.UTF-8 locale was never checked by the locale program, only de_DE.utf8 and others, which apparently are not what Debian uses. Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 18:36:12 2018 Received: (at 33678) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2018 23:36:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38982 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVm8q-0000Cu-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:36:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVm8p-0000Ch-4P for 33678@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:36:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVm8f-0004u6-Qt for 33678@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:36:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gVm8c-0004qt-Le; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:6a6c:dc17:fc02:cfda] (port=44056 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gVm8a-0001ph-T7; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:58 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Danny Milosavljevic Subject: Re: bug#33678: Locale problems References: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 19 Frimaire an 227 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 00:35:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20181208223551.2ad9c226@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Sat, 8 Dec 2018 22:35:51 +0100") Message-ID: <87sgz74mn9.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33678 Cc: 33678@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Guten Tag! :-) Danny Milosavljevic skribis: > Can we do something against the locale problems that keep showing up > when updating? > > Right now, after a half-finished update from guix master (half-finished b= ecause > once any package build breaks, the entire update will stop), I cannot use= any > Umlauts because "xterm -u8" stops working as it should: > $ xterm -u8 > Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged > $ > > Why does this keep happening? Shouldn't the functional nature and modula= rity > of Guix keep using the old locales where those make sense and the new loc= ales > where those make sense? Please see: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Locales.html#Locale= -Data-Compatibility-Considerations The solution, as described in this section, is to have both (say) locales for glibc 2.27 and locales for glibc 2.28, which you can specify in =E2=80=98locale-libcs=E2=80=99. Another option is what =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 commands print every time you= run them: to install the corresponding =E2=80=98glibc-utf8-locales=E2=80=99 package. Now I perfectly understands that this annoys everyone of us when that happens, and many people don=E2=80=99t seem to find the info. So I=E2=80= =99m open to suggestions on how to improve this! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. 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