From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.154273989612384 (code B ref -1); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:52:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 18:51:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPB7Y-0003Df-Gl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:51:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPB7X-0003DR-Aq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:51:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=IBl1B4paOpwbtKnRho BBXJ3OJxc=; b=T/OqWW7sRPAfAs+qZ2DlrMoiUyULXlYzLds52p0dx4f0QX7PHY /5fe9tZ2SuYWySx+AMIbseqF8PN+wjyaY396SpcdlZxy9ucGbmiijfGnKli74SRl DvxrQFTns4BgSbk9HWO2Y1S3yNrykyaBnKEI4zO5h6mRw3grEeEEtVLkQ= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-15-145.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.15.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AEB2807E3 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:51:01 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a64 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:50:58 +0800 Message-ID: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedruddthedguddvudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgfgsehtkeertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddugedrgedurdduhedrudegheenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduudegrdeguddrudehrddugeehpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Regarding e.g., =F0=9F=94=AE U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL Well doing C-u C-x =3D on it should really mention "U+1F52E" somewhere, b= y default, without needing customization. P.S., by the way here on Debian it is just a box with numbers in it, with no package available to fix it. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154274184515801 (code B ref 33445); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 19:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 19:24:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPBcy-00046n-Qx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:24:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPBcx-00046G-JB for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:24:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPBck-0008Qe-V7 for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:23:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPBck-0008QQ-Pv; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:23:50 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1488 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPBck-0005Y8-C4; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:23:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:23:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83efbfimcw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:50:58 +0800 > > Regarding e.g., > 🔮 U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL > > Well doing C-u C-x = on it should really mention "U+1F52E" somewhere, by > default, without needing customization. It does, at least twice. Or maybe I don't understand what is it that you are missing in the resulting display. > P.S., by the way here on Debian it is just a box with numbers in it, > with no package available to fix it. You need to install a suitable font, I suggest Symbola. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Well doing C-u C-x = on it should really mention "U+1F52E" somewhere, by >> default, without needing customization. EZ> It does, at least twice. Or maybe I don't understand what is it that EZ> you are missing in the resulting display. 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Or maybe I don't understand what is it that EZ> you are missing in the resulting display. $ grep 1F52E output code point in charset: 0x1F52E I want it to say "U+1F52E" somewhere by default. emacs-version "25.2.2" From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154274504929063 (code B ref 33445); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 20:17:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCSe-0007Yh-Vj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:17:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCSe-0007YP-2D for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:17:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCSW-000603-5H for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:17:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCSW-0005zp-1u; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:17:20 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4978 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCSV-0005IW-4L; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:17:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:17:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:04:13 +0800) References: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efbfimcw.fsf@gnu.org> <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:04:13 +0800 > > $ grep 1F52E output > code point in charset: 0x1F52E Yes, and the charset is Unicode (which is where "U" comes from). > I want it to say "U+1F52E" somewhere by default. Why? From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" In-Reply-To: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154274532629552 (code B ref 33445); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 20:22:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCX8-0007ga-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:22:06 -0500 Received: from indri.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.92]:7332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPCX6-0007gP-Iz for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:22:05 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A082E44B60; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.30.62]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 57F7944B6F; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:21:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:21:59 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Shrill-Cold: 750bb87817867660_1542745319469_492075079 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1542745319468:3751795788 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1542745319468 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AE780800; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:21:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=G2EU8HFQqgYQOQ5PAYeBmo8yO1g=; b=QZooZVZTbdTe3 PQm1xCPowGMhU18PElB1kmBXRWEGsy9nFslCTb4FQEudLv1gK6M2XFNenBpPAgwO d3v27EhyhscLQNPn15w8pg7bZxyC7Z8c6QO9ZM7nP1GTrF5Cj5kgl4GqgB472Hif XlMI7E4uN8m5a4QHNyiuTuNYegE9D0= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-15-145.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.15.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a64.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C0F7807F0; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:21:58 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a64 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efbfimcw.fsf@gnu.org> <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:21:55 +0800 Message-ID: <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedruddthedgudeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpeifihhkihhpvgguihgrrdhorhhgnecukfhppeduudegrdeguddrudehrddugeehnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddugedrgedurdduhedrudeghedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeeffeeggeehseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I want it to say "U+1F52E" somewhere by default. EZ> Why? Because those are their proper names! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Werner LEMBERG Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: eliz@gnu.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.15427504356331 (code B ref 33445); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 21:47:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37505 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDrX-0001e2-8D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:47:15 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:55889) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPDrQ-0001dj-N5 for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:47:09 -0500 Received: from gnu.org ([91.133.79.89]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MP0LT-1gKZYV2Pup-006Ovi; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:56 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 27.0.50 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rj9RWYG6HxnC+p7lOLGReQjVoOurs2N9kGabuW1+eMq/tp22AHp rzjIuoUbHAS52Mu4+6LEPfU7xq+dzcGinXBoO2SJ5ULd3afsEnP7WA7u8ax43ivPxIn2IgS zVs2N5ViollxxSYjj5qROaNFIVfu3lCHXrUKKgDgNzyjVVp4cQP8FzwnroET+mYKq1NARPr UkDh1MLOnx1gBaRw82fqg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:BqWfHqUwp2g=:pf7lM+zLxwIMA1ZUKr9QFS vf4CHmfJoTWkHd4wc0htvw9QZjdYaJfMX5nW5orJH6ckUBmtJZEM3fIbwQo7qQS1opVs+n9jn 7bd4970spha3Od3Pj13LBUKYb2IWGtH1259vEMcx0i8W4pgBbqaZf+RTazM0YcV9dXrhUory5 RrOwuR5NIbHTNXGQGtLmzgZIbLdrTnQY2yhMZm/Ie4CJJdwvV4/LIBJzSmdeKJD9Dupg6Z4wi 24qSJ7PUL/t5bMUSQV44wJfq9b/PzMeSYeIgsbmLloFDtsKFWK3KgFYsjBuLdNpqTm5CsD66G nbqgfLaa6unWi6sXvyj94n+MF1RpkMQD1s1R12Js0DgInOn0AFqKmeJl0btAsX9tsTHPcLdoe OxNe5VXOGf9ozYLFRNorDrcns22Rp8xKEEF+9zHX6vON+5fWfPmsky8/bagnWBJurnl7Zpp97 zZgu0bAY8emIdHEcrwGVQIjlSFoa/IzE39WsL5Rrj2/Qd7p1RQ7UzNH7W5Hc4qbY+uefXV6Se iJNOe7gV8hhtM+Hn1D5xhltO7V9iMK+ueaQr8G4ytCzMCJqYllYXefpYNQoyGzq4/IQzTYid5 SxMkU5eM/0spyC0Bd70ThlHf8oLQLvv+QPeG7eUV2xv0MlHK2EvG7hm4QgwsPI9bI5wAIGRkt 2GSSJ8QoMBx4le0mqZGdDZZXcLTlE6Gdxisae6fXH/ZW5jodOkScK7qXqHay3vmNeTjB3IdCw Av/tnP0zQEd8DUiumCCMcKtBChePKInNiDt25tHzO47BK1zjyehQ57aVaqZlH/eh4OQ/fvL+R AIvdSwW4Ix8Z8chihboKN7ww24D2ovrTxrL1UWa6s+sQ8NmZNrAdaB5ezTwBo7EwudvS8d3yH dKJIMRJCT5OKyQLtfdEVguLcuZXUymQPQU7I1+4PVeswjPWIQots41Ne4n7GcgEGCtu2L1p5j YOKacjJf+kw== X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) >>> I want it to say "U+1F52E" somewhere by default. > > EZ> Why? > > Because those are their proper names! > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters I second that. It might be a small difference to people who are well acquainted with Emacs coding systems. However, I believe that Joe User would prefer the `U+' notation. (I have a good knowledge of coding systems, and even I would prefer to see the `U+' prefix :-) Werner From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.15427712565692 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 03:34:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJHM-0001Tk-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:34:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJHK-0001TV-6F for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:34:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJHB-0001GT-R2 for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:34:08 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJHB-0001GP-Ny; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:34:05 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1780 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJHB-0004WB-C7; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:34:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:34:15 +0200 Message-Id: <83a7m3hzns.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:21:55 +0800) References: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efbfimcw.fsf@gnu.org> <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:21:55 +0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> I want it to say "U+1F52E" somewhere by default. > > EZ> Why? > > Because those are their proper names! > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters The proper name is CRYSTAL BALL, and it is shown. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.15427716456302 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 03:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 03:40:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNd-0001dZ-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNa-0001dN-OA for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNU-0002I6-Qr for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNQ-0002Cj-Dd; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:32 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2219 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPJNQ-00053P-6T; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:40:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:40:41 +0200 Message-Id: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:52 +0100 (CET)) References: <87in0r8qiq.fsf@jidanni.org> <83bm6jijvr.fsf@gnu.org> <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:46:52 +0100 (CET) > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Werner LEMBERG > > I second that. It might be a small difference to people who are well > acquainted with Emacs coding systems. However, I believe that Joe > User would prefer the `U+' notation. (I have a good knowledge of > coding systems, and even I would prefer to see the `U+' prefix :-) This is not about coding systems at all. The codepoint is shown at least twice in the display, just without the U+ prefix. The display produced by that function is already cluttered beyond hope, so much so that many important details evade you until you actually read each and every symbol. Adding the U+ to them (where, exactly?) would make aa bad situation even worse, for very little gain. The proper Unicode name of the character, CRYSTAL BALL, is shown in the display. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9IsJV/c+hOIAg9G2VF/SB2v1b83l5i93QWDtJ9Er6O03tXQ7BCF VxI+X4H6kP33/O0/LQcS0PmWLiMrr0DD6WKvBy+21hnKFdXP4Nlx4kgtQUh2sOu35VInLLu ox56KXjyl7NNnbFw3s770/K9v8cqIwGMecpAO+8J5UUGPoPw9b9oIz4ykfJ+l5N9Ie/DGGf oTU6gylv5soNnd15Ft6Rg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:YS3ZKa4Dj08=:L8Gy8kDwfdg9BVFukhVj3P 4mAdJNrrbVr3Ao4qL8W1vjooMre6MZJBS0+xpL4iqr5obD4OV4iZhX+afRuLQbO6NWgxczHXn nZe4W9D6QP3jFyxdWKVtGWi5QaT5Uhx9qyaRASn9CLIioy+8YBVA/iNQi5SS9aQf3qrjErLOx cKn/TdtW2vE5+AsUuvFS+VdbcksxmXDKQttmE1Bd3s+dXMErZhr+Sw9dh2Ksz1jyNS864+UQU R1JPhZY4GLNhkuArtaaST1+C/+EyLNuw8oPVODgttn7/ug0XeeSMDoWLCaLcPPT3Gl0WzZjRp 8LkKW7CXWuJoWEI/+Y/CUuy1ar+SVJf3hA0OnbT7aNfdaTeLe5vP7jAyZZf2atsdZsR5/cYdB JATicQxBBgV9RfKZ30YWhx83KJU5YnaZUMcjjsF4kRB8f8jLa3zX7+1J1bAESiDnwuRVJ5gA4 /GoedUN5lys++JyM5LJl/XE2yxFGl8kOo0lhTlN1FptdgOwAL3eGKsz6ULltMQTT72MmVQwxf ji07IVsFkFWrTUGIvAq7YbxifI6F3ZIHMs7smzI0S6y/OdWAdMnZgXt/d53LjxFoXijHg3iMH x8gZaLfmTx+bZNbg1Xi/TFzwpd1aR6vj9+pfNjZGGBR6bBmrBX96INnNSBKF32SptrfbYo1jr AWMBT2ssJhGJU+ZyCTymbSOxsEQK4tUziDg8+rCFpKims6IcU2nbaJeAK26A70aa5t9B8qAX0 Ip4B44g4dWF8T/p/e8W14S1ZXS4CwTyWPaD5PdW3jWvdQNEGPpwGMhHDSmhR9lkPLmalUhGmK hgzguG+l68qQmFmF5S75GbpV1lpaCMLBYWGwYePvJOz1pbhDh3ELFzbE+7UIVvzoghTLkxgj+ 37SqVPNfdH3NBmm1x20IKkjbTZJME12vfw8L113gwocl8v3ay1Ff2Sw74PBQPZ X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) >> I second that. It might be a small difference to people who are >> well acquainted with Emacs coding systems. However, I believe that >> Joe User would prefer the `U+' notation. (I have a good knowledge >> of coding systems, and even I would prefer to see the `U+' prefix >> :-) > > This is not about coding systems at all. The codepoint is shown at > least twice in the display, just without the U+ prefix. > > The display produced by that function is already cluttered beyond > hope, so much so that many important details evade you until you > actually read each and every symbol. Well, this is a different issue. > Adding the U+ to them (where, exactly?) would make aa bad situation > even worse, for very little gain. > > The proper Unicode name of the character, CRYSTAL BALL, is shown in > the display. I would like to see U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL Werner From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154279254321698 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 09:29:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPOog-0005dt-Uk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:29:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57771) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPOof-0005dP-9o for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:29:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPOoZ-0003TC-F9 for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:28:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPOoT-0003Q6-DK; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:28:49 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4425 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPOoT-0000eB-0f; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:28:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:28:59 +0200 Message-Id: <834lcaixt0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:44:35 +0100 (CET)) References: <875zwrebz0.fsf@jidanni.org> <20181120.224652.842117314591353291.wl@gnu.org> <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:44:35 +0100 (CET) > Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Werner LEMBERG > > I would like to see > > U+1F52E CRYSTAL BALL Given that the current display is position: 588 of 1015 (58%), column: 2 character: 🔮 (displayed as 🔮) (codepoint 128302, #o372456, #x1f52e) preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in charset: 0x1F52E script: symbol syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base to input: type "C-x 8 RET 1f52e" or "C-x 8 RET CRYSTAL BALL" buffer code: #xF0 #x9F #x94 #xAE file code: #xF0 #x9F #x94 #xAE (encoded by coding system utf-8) display: by this font (glyph code) uniscribe:-outline-Symbola-normal-normal-normal-serif-15-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 (#x1AE4) Character code properties: customize what to show name: CRYSTAL BALL With the codepoint shown 3 times above the name, why would you want it displayed yet another time? Isn't that highly redundant? Emacs displays this information for Emacs users. "C-x =" is a general-purpose command, not a command intended for learning Unicode or perusing Unicode blocks. If someone writes a command for viewing Unicode blocks, I can understand why U+1F52E should be there. But this is not that case. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Werner LEMBERG Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 10:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: eliz@gnu.org Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154279663628067 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 10:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 10:37:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPPsi-0007Id-1f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:37:16 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:49709) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPPsf-0007IQ-NX for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:59:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:59:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83zhu2hf1b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20181121.113658.1778636052081371268.wl@gnu.org> (message from Werner LEMBERG on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:36:58 +0100 (CET)) References: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> <834lcaixt0.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.113658.1778636052081371268.wl@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:36:58 +0100 (CET) > Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Werner LEMBERG > > > position: 588 of 1015 (58%), column: 2 > > character: 🔮 (displayed as 🔮) (codepoint 128302, #o372456, #x1f52e) > > Is this `codepoint' ever different to the value shown two rows later? For characters from other charsets, yes. > > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > > code point in charset: 0x1F52E > > This could be > > code point in charset: U+1F52E > > by special-casing Unicode, contrary to other charsets. What would be the utility of U+ for Emacs users? It just makes this more confusing for people who aren't familiar with the U+nnnn notation (which obviously excludes me, you, and the OP). Emacs doesn't accept that notation in any input mode, and never displays it. But I'm beginning to repeat myself, so I will shut up on this from now on. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" In-Reply-To: <87lg5nfur1.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Werner LEMBERG , 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154280411122825 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 12:41:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPRpH-0005w5-Cg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:41:51 -0500 Received: from indri.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.92]:54802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPRpD-0005vq-0S for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:41:49 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DFD682E33; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (unknown [100.96.30.62]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 82C0D682CFF; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:41:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:41:42 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Inform-Spill: 7dba88aa1bceaf06_1542804102643_2989221563 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1542804102643:2488953985 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1542804102643 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF927F5FD; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:41:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=s25NFD/S+ZOixCKTF1 O3mwbnWwk=; b=AfAsQW5SvY+GdwCwju3YCCLjXPpfpiWeZEWmzkUlJmYgfNh0/p defCFHz/4FhCZ0eBkzFwADHgzHoTF+Y6o1CqK+1Knahlpq3umv994xsyYI8Ef0p8 /Pp3ddMTnrOnD4CNymmW28nnRl66/ivkeG5a9RbDAkwr9LUFbqdgvDoW0= Received: from jidanni.org (111-246-96-223.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [111.246.96.223]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD7497F61C; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 04:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a79 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> <834lcaixt0.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.113658.1778636052081371268.wl@gnu.org> <83zhu2hf1b.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 20:41:20 +0800 Message-ID: <87in0q8uxb.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedruddtjedggeegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhffffkgggtgfesthekredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddurddvgeeirdeliedrvddvfeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddurddvgeeirdeliedrvddvfedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeeffeeggeehseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Also currently saying character: =F0=9F=94=AE (displayed as =F0=9F=94=AE) (codepoin= t 128302, #o372456, #x1f52e) preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in charset: 0x1F52E leaves the user still not totally sure the last line really is talking about the second line or not. Otherwise instead of saying preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in charset: 0x1F52E It should say preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in preferred charset: 0x1F52E That way we could be sure it is really talking about unicode. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: wl@gnu.org, 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.154280579925427 (code B ref 33445); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2018 13:09:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37942 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPSGV-0006c3-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:09:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47963) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPSGT-0006br-Hj for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:09:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPSGN-0006VW-Rp for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:09:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPSGH-0006Qg-Hv; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:09:45 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2609 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPSGH-0006AU-5K; Wed, 21 Nov 2018 08:09:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:09:55 +0200 Message-Id: <83wop6h90c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87in0q8uxb.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 20:41:20 +0800) References: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> <834lcaixt0.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.113658.1778636052081371268.wl@gnu.org> <83zhu2hf1b.fsf@gnu.org> <87in0q8uxb.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > Cc: Werner LEMBERG , 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 20:41:20 +0800 > > Otherwise instead of saying > > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > code point in charset: 0x1F52E > > It should say > > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > code point in preferred charset: 0x1F52E > > That way we could be sure it is really talking about unicode. Fine with me, but we will have to realign the other lines, as they are all aligned to have the colon in the same column. 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charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) merge 33445 26477 From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#33445: Say "U+1F52E" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 15:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 33445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33445.15429007392172 (code B ref 33445); Thu, 22 Nov 2018 15:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 33445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2018 15:32:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42550 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPqxn-0000Yy-GF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:32:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57883) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPqxl-0000Yl-WA for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:32:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPqxc-0002ah-St for 33445@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:32:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPqxc-0002ad-QJ; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:32:08 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4986 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPqxc-0002dj-B5; Thu, 22 Nov 2018 10:32:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 17:32:23 +0200 Message-Id: <83h8g9gmbc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83wop6h90c.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:09:55 +0200) References: <838t1nhzd2.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.064435.330967170186046743.wl@gnu.org> <834lcaixt0.fsf@gnu.org> <20181121.113658.1778636052081371268.wl@gnu.org> <83zhu2hf1b.fsf@gnu.org> <87in0q8uxb.fsf@jidanni.org> <83wop6h90c.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:09:55 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 33445@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Otherwise instead of saying > > > > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > > code point in charset: 0x1F52E > > > > It should say > > > > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > > code point in preferred charset: 0x1F52E > > > > That way we could be sure it is really talking about unicode. > > Fine with me, but we will have to realign the other lines, as they are > all aligned to have the colon in the same column. I've now removed the "preferred" part from the display, so it says just "charset", thus the next line is more clearly related to this one. Thanks. 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