From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 15 04:05:40 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2018 09:05:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52978 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDal-0007k2-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50076) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDaj-0007jp-TJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDab-0007Oi-Ez for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:32 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_HEADERS autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDab-0007Oc-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDaX-0005yj-Up for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:29 -0500 Received: from rt2p.gnu.org ([74.94.156.212]:41734 helo=rt.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDaX-0007N1-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:25 -0500 Received: from www-data by rt.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNDaX-0006Tb-EP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:25 -0500 Subject: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link From: "Therese Godefroy via RT" In-Reply-To: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: gnu.org X-RT-Ticket: gnu.org #1336696 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.14-7-g171caae (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: godef.th@free.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmasters@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) On Wed Nov 14 20:56:04 2018, spaulk@mail.umw.edu wrote: > Hello, > > ”FSF store” this hyperlink > found inside of all of the manuals located > here are broken. > > Thank you Hello Sean, Thanks for reporting this dead link. It will be taken care of by the Emacs maintainers , CCed. Best regards, Thérèse From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 15 11:36:03 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2018 16:36:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54386 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNKcc-0006Af-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:36:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNKca-0006A9-MB for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:36:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNKcT-0002Pl-Jg for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:35:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNKcN-0002JT-2F; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:35:47 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gNKcG-0001nS-E5; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:35:41 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: webmasters@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> X-Spook: Jiang Zemin Methamphetamine Agfa Rule Psix Breach tempest X-Ran: 52P&Zg62*aevk{#/CbD@CKp?0~ha.z_03hGW"?k\m`#cV!B)7_+wlqF5J~iTTS|0 (Therese Godefroy via's message of "Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:05:25 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) >> "FSF store" this >> hyperlink found inside of all of the manuals located >> here are >> broken. Thanks for the info. This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note saying that it is out of print when applicable). I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 16 03:18:59 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2018 08:18:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZL9-0007Qd-Ky for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZL8-0007QS-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZKy-0006lM-Kc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_HEADERS autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60607) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZKv-0006k9-0Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZKu-0001FP-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:44 -0500 Received: from rt2p.gnu.org ([74.94.156.212]:60692 helo=rt.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZKt-0006j3-1z; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:43 -0500 Received: from www-data by rt.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNZKs-0002n2-OL; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:42 -0500 Subject: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link From: "Therese Godefroy via RT" In-Reply-To: References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: gnu.org X-RT-Ticket: gnu.org #1336696 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.14-7-g171caae (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: godef.th@free.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:18:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: rgm@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmasters-comment@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) On Thu Nov 15 11:35:53 2018, rgm@gnu.org wrote: > > >> "FSF store" this > >> hyperlink found inside of all of the manuals located > >> here are > >> broken. > > Thanks for the info. > This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 > The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps > https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ > working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note > saying that it is out of print when applicable). > > I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? Hello Glenn, This seems like the best thing to do. Thanks for your prompt reply. Best regards, Thérèse From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 05:12:33 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 10:12:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP31E-0008MZ-Rt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:12:33 -0500 Received: from petton.fr ([89.234.186.68]:59862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP31C-0008ML-TZ for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:12:31 -0500 From: Nicolas Petton To: Glenn Morris , webmasters@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link In-Reply-To: References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petton.fr; s=mail; t=1542708744; bh=Nd2LBcffCLvR+SXvFcT4Iim481CxCiRraHzRc/wu1Cc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qq0wyBix44MpWyzRYuGpbgpv8m9+YSrcKMFrrMCJqBWi68FuJW9E+rcZnNSCx14IVaT7jhYSPx1CvRfXnXFOVyab1hl630sWKn/WrGHQ8wStNQWV6cFWgl1UWJuh18tSWoG8dTB0oxk3iRsxgNEYj/mUQ3zuTT0TQuYVFb2nxyE= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Glenn Morris writes: > Thanks for the info. > This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 > The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps > https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ > working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note > saying that it is out of print when applicable). > > I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? Nico --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE1AWqLIYsVPF+7mvg6LzXhmr8+XgFAlvz3gYACgkQ6LzXhmr8 +XjghQf+Pj1QGrcSYRESS4/DCDaN2zFIkKdiDXnqpyudbHSRVo2rKnGZvguNu6Tv gzVg+eWyIkwvDZWlebM2d6PO96KQN9oSGKsvlAKjzDx7XipxCcGXZ2OY68EObi98 iw6fcKvZfiUJ1NExNHhyXQBGEP2ZXnBSLiOCQQBQ4/8mvOPqj0Yq6ze+epm4v2hh CdYwqnrsJswoQOfRP9SxTQ1LOleyAnHtrQy3HGOsUQBaNiEeWIHJTCC6gks+XiDI jgpJsug1atBiVdkuD3BkNrTn6jeALAEhwEgsiHZHqDNR+et/mYzOPrtHhaNB6fIS A6SMBqdmxVoFmptfcHac+pI9m5FEMw== =/TaG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 11:10:28 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 16:10:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35281 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bb-0003Lf-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bb-0003LQ-8N for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0005Fo-Vh for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0005Fi-Sl; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:17 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4652 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0001X7-Eb; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:10:26 +0200 Message-Id: <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Nicolas Petton In-reply-to: <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> (message from Nicolas Petton on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, webmasters@gnu.org, 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Petton > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100 > Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org > > Glenn Morris writes: > > > Thanks for the info. > > This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 > > The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps > > https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ > > working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note > > saying that it is out of print when applicable). > > > > I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? > > Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? > Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? I was actually about to suggest something easier: point the readers to an address that will never change, such as this: https://shop.fsf.org/collection/books-docs Of course, if we can arrange for a more focused URL that won't be invalidated by bitrot, that would be better. However, I do suggest to at least consider the "easy" solution against the risk of a 404 with the more smart one. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 11:52:48 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 16:52:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Ga-00009x-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9GY-00008H-2i for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9GS-0008DQ-0t for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:40 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54775) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9GP-0008BJ-Kw; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:37 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9GO-0002tR-GG; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:36 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> X-Spook: Juiliett Class Submarine Centro Black out Airport Nuevo X-Ran: >KEu$q8e-(ts)en]1w$jIm$5&<^(/@/`ueDTb:reVqBp7XTd9[XU2]%/@`=1)TI<' (Nicolas Petton's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Nicolas Petton wrote: > Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? We can't ourselves do that for the shop.fsf.org domain, no. > Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? .htaccess works and is used eg in emacs/manual/. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 11:56:06 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 16:56:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Jl-0000rZ-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:56:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53009) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Jf-0000pB-1C for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9JX-0002lW-Rx for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:53 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9JM-0002eD-0F; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:43 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9JH-0003Gp-E6; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:36 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Strain Nerve agent defense information warfare halcon X-Ran: ch-6WADMTrkZ0|ok`sIjQ5h1K\k_?!V\u%iBl0Q0Y2,Dgn^+%um:!q$dHaUxPr X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:10:26 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: Nicolas Petton , 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I was actually about to suggest something easier: point the readers to > an address that will never change, such as this: > > https://shop.fsf.org/collection/books-docs Are you sure about "never"? :) > Of course, if we can arrange for a more focused URL that won't be > invalidated by bitrot, that would be better. Emacs can change to any URL for the future, but the old URL is used in past releases and their announcements, so it would be simplest if it comes back. It ought to be trivial for the FSF store to set up a redirect. I will do that today. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 11:58:29 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 16:58:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9M5-0001PX-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9M3-0001Np-AT for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Lx-0004vf-3x for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Lp-0004pb-Gm; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:13 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Lp-0005zZ-BQ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:13 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Juiliett Class Submarine Recovery Kh-11 Lon Horiuchi csim X-Ran: WOQOu%vN:%uCCc5Y_F0P&S(e/$l3?p"BeiDToP$ALY6~~/vfCv;TFX04?DGaWg[5IW|Gtm X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:58:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:55:34 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: Nicolas Petton , 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Glenn Morris wrote: > comes back. It ought to be trivial for the FSF store to set up a > redirect. I will do that today. I meant to say that I will ask them to do that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 12:03:29 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 17:03:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Qu-0002Pr-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:03:29 -0500 Received: from rt2p.gnu.org ([74.94.156.212]:49338 helo=rt.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Qq-0002O9-TG for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:03:26 -0500 Received: from www-data by rt.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP9Qi-0006nD-Fk; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:03:16 -0500 Subject: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link From: "Therese Godefroy via RT" In-Reply-To: References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: gnu.org X-RT-Ticket: gnu.org #1336696 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.14-7-g171caae (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: godef.th@free.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:03:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: On Tue Nov 20 11:10:33 2018, eliz@gnu.org wrote: > > From: Nicolas Petton > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100 > > Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Glenn Morris [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.94.156.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, eliz@gnu.org, 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: webmasters-comment@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) On Tue Nov 20 11:10:33 2018, eliz@gnu.org wrote: > > From: Nicolas Petton > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100 > > Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Glenn Morris writes: > > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 > > > The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps > > > https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ > > > working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note > > > saying that it is out of print when applicable). > > > > > > I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? > > > > Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? > > Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? > > I was actually about to suggest something easier: point the readers to > an address that will never change, such as this: > > https://shop.fsf.org/collection/books-docs > > Of course, if we can arrange for a more focused URL that won't be > invalidated by bitrot, that would be better. However, I do suggest to > at least consider the "easy" solution against the risk of a 404 with > the more smart one. Hello all, I quite agree with Eli. A generic redirection would be better. If you want to keep the link as it is, I don't think a .htaccess redirection on the gnu.org server would work, because the link points to shop.fsf.org. You would have to ask the FSF sysadmins to update the redirection that seems to exist already, or replace it with a generic one; something like: Redirect http://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ https://shop.fsf.org/collection/books-docs/ The visitor would easily find the current Emacs Manual. If you don't want to wait for the FSF admins to do this, I'm afraid you will have to change the links in the Emacs home page and manuals. At least, you can use a generic link that will not rot: * The simplest URL is "/order/". It is rewritten by the gnu.org server: RewriteRule ^/order/.* http://shop.fsf.org/ [R] The visitor would land on the main page of the FSF shop, and follow the menu link to the books-docs section. * You could also use an address in the emacs directory (say, /software/emacs/printed-emacs-manual.html), and redirect to the current version of the printed manual. This can be done in .htaccess, or in a page called "printed-emacs-manual.html". You would still have to update the redirection whenever the printed version changes, but this isn't going to happen any time soon because they just released the 18th edition. * A variant of the previous method is to use the .symlinks file (no real page needed). My 2 cents. Best regards, Thérèse From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 20 12:41:58 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 17:41:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPA2A-0001IN-1n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58483) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gPA28-0001Gs-16 for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPA21-0007wv-Iu for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:50 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gPA1w-0007qI-ML; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:44 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gPA1u-0001nX-Dy; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:42 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> X-Spook: unclassified broadside Black out BRLO IDEA CIA Cloud X-Ran: $4(y%UqV&8p3nC9r7*i;j?d- X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:41:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:52:36 -0500") Message-ID: <4awop763ze.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Glenn Morris wrote: > Nicolas Petton wrote: > >> Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? > > We can't ourselves do that for the shop.fsf.org domain, no. > >> Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? > > .htaccess works and is used eg in emacs/manual/. Oh, maybe you meant in future use eg gnu.org/s/emacs/manual/printed, and have that redirect wherever. Sure, just add whatever you want to the .htaccess file. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 23 05:22:25 2018 Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2018 10:22:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gQ8bR-0005t8-Iz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 05:22:25 -0500 Received: from petton.fr ([89.234.186.68]:54660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gQ8bQ-0005sp-7S; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 05:22:24 -0500 From: Nicolas Petton To: =?utf-8?B?VGjDqXLDqHNl?= Godefroy , 33393@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:22:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87zhu06qlj.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petton.fr; s=mail; t=1542968538; bh=gnh1f1t0ut7foy21pmJW+w8wKbrVNRjMnTQLA9oblzM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HMvZfg76B7JWo3HJMYi4BE1x30ZFwZ4nOaPOGmj6O2GETlOLz5yWZst/gsEJgl/IoZ6FArKfvB4hYDvDqnCCJ6rCf67EbXCkCK7ckYLmXXiYOa10mqpNf9YJJ3IEj6XJTL5VGrgZYamQyr0ZzuMJau9q44ZKlXDd+ZNfF5v1WjM= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393 Cc: 33393-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se Godefroy writes: > Hello, Hi Th=C3=A8r=C3=A8se, > A wrong link to the printed manual is also found in > /software/emacs/documentation.html. This one can be fixed right away > (diff attached). I applied the patch, thanks. 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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------212D9269008F7D813AC7D72B" Content-Language: fr X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 11:37:51 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------212D9269008F7D813AC7D72B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, A wrong link to the printed manual is also found in /software/emacs/documentation.html. This one can be fixed right away (diff attached). All the best, Th=C3=A9r=C3=A8se --------------212D9269008F7D813AC7D72B Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="documentation.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="documentation.diff" Index: documentation.html =================================================================== RCS file: /webcvs/emacs/emacs/documentation.html,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -U 2 -r1.7 documentation.html --- documentation.html 12 Dec 2017 08:50:51 -0000 1.7 +++ documentation.html 23 Nov 2018 10:08:42 -0000 @@ -70,5 +70,5 @@
  • GNU Emacs manual: Read Online or - Purchase + Purchase
  • An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp: --------------212D9269008F7D813AC7D72B-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 05:44:01 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 28 15:06:09 2018 Received: (at 33393-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2018 20:06:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gS665-0007jL-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57671) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gS664-0007j5-4e for 33393-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gS65x-0001YN-D6 for 33393-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:02 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50276) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gS65x-0001Xj-7v for 33393-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:01 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gS65x-0001kc-4k; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:01 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 33393-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> X-Spook: class struggle Lockdown Federal Air Marshal Service Los X-Ran: Ea@nf=VC7.+z:ad'6W$ks=g1C}jxf?JeCb^K_8"sQqI8q"-mGit3X%b,_D)}eiqi_RRDzW X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:06:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:35:32 -0500") Message-ID: <3k8t1d3r2u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33393-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) sales@fsf have fixed the https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual link. (I did ask if they wanted Emacs to use a different link in future, but they did not comment.) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator