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Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:07:20 +0200 Message-ID: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:UY5iDqDAS3DahhxkuXSLZOwWj6lImXHT1HD7MzLA651NUvXPSqP 63MT7feyEniFTDn6Gh9bF0Yu9cZGYYQ+SQnx/Yr7AaNvWDqoqcQdY+L0OKBbGEZANwAiWey u8kmqipzQWZLcIj8Vo2s5dDIQsxyKbqvT6WcaqkesyxR+zHu+9vmcKglDz9/YpPYWIiTdRd 0a50TDIQJ1ZEzTzGbjCng== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:FcKvJaB1GcI=:ov415QepoTVqTBJYCn91QZ 3UBwM7h8QXa0pqYNvPqhreLRm79aLgKM1/mKd5+pNz91uRLCj2EC6XpMCeKuQIkRjfzxcrqzW caENUaAgacI02V+m2yT6PZWpwSenrQTKVTNbI/AqYgHcCT5pDbIrlSdpW4sW9emC/vHZEdz1R te22QkOKuK8E7HFlWkTsi1wnaBblepy7RnlTsnGJHH7LXx6R22F6p+thPUnrTaFkhcpsbNAcY sWs1KHFXm6ftzPMYOByeGgym/CKYf78YykuE8Hb4M57Mccc1XBw38i+5pHmyDpv+FOLZoT3x9 QYou+EPKu5gqEIVWGN3RlgsBnyNHfDfz/HVcfhNiiUTjXWV8jm60MGDqTTG0q6MjuU9rBcmOY yqMwExof2kQPd897dSug1hdcMb7V1pT6arBuwde9xd7tdsHnrkHxxQwghvyVJNMzR8klzKTr+ Vpn42xK7mzRfPJTeJ59Y3YBixGObacll2G7ArKzh8Na1Hl7j+3Ii5v0m7vNB2nop+zDdmKFrG ZFoXgUfOKnHp1zrvptNRAIU8d0HvWMU1CTlLZ5LDaRAcQQm3qehXYqLh+eMzhgU9YjqaCHvuP vhBhdPwDuV2FV32cxkg3uZGYXVxEpl5CuCo3YVA/LhTii5ERu4qwVBoP3H3I+uNchsNdtuZTL 677bhlvv35ddMCplpHTjD/OaVWyOve6iAUkMjVSEfffrIs+N9JI9+89IsvZZvtf81Csrc0jRV BKKi3/gi3OfHFBo2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) The following happens within Gnome 3 (3.30, but also earlier versions), Wayland on Debian Buster on a Laptop with HiDPI display with fractional scaling factor set to 1.5. Position frame at the left border of the display, evaluate: (frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'left) ;; -10 or (car (frame-position (selected-frame))) ;; '(+ -10) The horizontal frame position should be 0, instead it gets reported as -10 (indicating that part of the frame is invisible - which is not the case). Even if the frame is positioned within the first 9 pixel positions, the result is still negative. In GNU Emacs 26.1.50 (build 6, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30) of 2018-09-15 built on moka Repository revision: 20ecc5266e1ffb1cff3e31475631b5c76b99e997 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12001000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster) Recent messages: Wrote /home/kail/.emacs.d/init/user/kai_tetzlaff.el Mark set [8 times] Auto-saving... Mark set [2 times] Quit Mark set [6 times] Auto-saving...done Saving file /home/kail/.emacs.d/init/user/kai_tetzlaff.el... 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Content preview: Kai Tetzlaff writes: > The following happens within Gnome 3 (3.30, but also earlier versions), > Wayland on Debian Buster on a Laptop with HiDPI display with fractional > scaling factor set to 1.5. > > Position frame at t [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Kai Tetzlaff writes: > The following happens within Gnome 3 (3.30, but also earlier versions), > Wayland on Debian Buster on a Laptop with HiDPI display with fractional > scaling factor set to 1.5. > > Position frame at the left border of the display, evaluate: > > (frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'left) > ;; -10 > > or > > (car (frame-position (selected-frame))) > ;; '(+ -10) (This bug report unfortunately got no response at the time.) I can reproduce this bug in Emacs 28: (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 0 0) => t (frame-position (selected-frame)) => (-10 . 66) If I do this, I can clearly see that the frame isn't outside the screen (i.e., I can see other windows between the Emacs frame and the border of the screen): (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 9 0) => t But still: (frame-position (selected-frame)) => (-1 . 66) This is a Debian bullseye system with Gnome Shell. Anybody got an idea what's going on here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 26 09:32:20 2020 Received: (at 32977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2020 14:32:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiIJo-0008Ue-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 09:32:20 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com ([209.85.221.54]:41460) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiIJm-0008US-A4 for 32977@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 09:32:18 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 23so2353701wrc.8 for <32977@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=TLDP+44zCIA5SEcttdoupT5rCiNggnGS58UYDMRO1xc=; b=EB6clFsSvxPykkwN86uKswvGW8fswv/jf2ebMU2KnyPm494mhj5WOwMSe1eX9SD6zr x5O7Y8C7f0CFwQ97v0mGcj/KcvlW6pShm5jfqdjbngItJsC/Ydxf1sQpJuZ3MrSZeomR y1n3Nkn8PXevAMZQk3Skbb2bf7W/FP1JJdhh5m4Rp69pe+6t12N618L8/hSLMAgXv0lh 15fQIjiOru3P/H5OwxRdhRH1wcTWH5Yp0YnBgzPpkCdTyFBQLJPT5tOlkI+26jMdD0xT 5huM2x2eUH3V3LhZXqqs6ICOSWY/DrabRR1iEbL2GlXmiPlcrWxvIXwcW7ArQdBCXYNe kqUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=TLDP+44zCIA5SEcttdoupT5rCiNggnGS58UYDMRO1xc=; b=iU9VV4h5xSVKxcyRhnWPyLlnEdcU8dKgQvcRqRVyAIZ76+lYOT8cTX3sIkGMgv4e3Z hFiqqGUrM4AXbX0Czd+uOEVlgx4ANojTMYA1wz5EPMopxaykNlHLt5JPd9LDYcg8LLz7 Sd1+jrHWf7SgbMWVTzekfTRgRPP/RSCjFF3z7cbkoUpzWFrVge/CMMw3rulE5o7rhksj E4vnvCqq0iRR5S4clmoCmp7mszHd4BQYFAv7svfDa4Ayu6l4QngCDwUtBUklMjOytU9D xJLe3u1XFfJaaghjyff4FhdWYOk3VS8zEUPOFmg9eKerQo4fSnax0jtJzvEsLc7Z6DeT blQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5317ZQDnKgMhcrMn2KUtqJSPa2XsllfY1JP7R9vbsveavmXW+j52 +vhhFpcdwfPIfKN82EmIk0FNY9SDQwo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzpIKmQuGOvZHhiqmfNzJtzolCUDqgoJSITS4PUelBUkN2TX+FHFQSN7Y+8WausT6Y02b0TCA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:db4a:: with SMTP id f10mr4126494wrj.420.1606401131922; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 06:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:5525:34f8:b0be:6dfc]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o21sm9360398wra.40.2020.11.26.06.32.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 26 Nov 2020 06:32:11 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#32977: 26.1.50; Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions References: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:32:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 14:09:43 +0100") Message-ID: <87eekgkx3p.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: Kai Tetzlaff , 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > (This bug report unfortunately got no response at the time.) > > I can reproduce this bug in Emacs 28: > > (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 0 0) > => t > (frame-position (selected-frame)) > => (-10 . 66) > > If I do this, I can clearly see that the frame isn't outside the screen > (i.e., I can see other windows between the Emacs frame and the border of > the screen): > > (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 9 0) > => t > > But still: > > (frame-position (selected-frame)) > => (-1 . 66) > > This is a Debian bullseye system with Gnome Shell. > > Anybody got an idea what's going on here? This is under X, right? GTK/GDK's idea of window coordinates and Emacs's idea sometimes disagree, especially when using Gnome Shell. The answer is pure gtk, but in the pure gtk branch under Wayland, frame-position will return (0 . 0) however the frame will not actually move when you call set-frame-position. pure gtk under X moves the frame, *and* returns (0 . 0), so I guess this should be filed as a bug against the pure gtk branch. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 26 10:45:33 2020 Received: (at 32977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2020 15:45:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42540 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiJSe-0004XH-AA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:45:33 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:47611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiJSZ-0004Ww-6F for 32977@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:45:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606405521; bh=eiGcyX3UvNG1TX3lqu6YmNruQybQQp4+6J8CkXqezyw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kqVtuvInvH0MfTxCX62qBrfgLZZwtbJ6XA+hTFOnRQGAgNZQsIExprmWPz1suWw7u ioXCNUqCQE3VXnjfJHkI49GRSS0fI6D5hlSmQxdm3mjXjrUw5tw41VccDyllZMtEsy owt9kOGY2tG8b4t5gVr6Q7LDC4/TwXvgX8ldN58s= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.49]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MfHAH-1k1Yuw1HMB-00grKU; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 16:45:21 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#32977: 26.1.50; Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Kai Tetzlaff References: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 16:45:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1D7otfbK+EapWOk+BEid9su7u0edgs1EMpb7Q0I9Hfk0DgofquL KfzP5u8reorbkbJs7JdUpchr7wZqivUnUIvURXcdOzaToI7ZtdkFAoJhjYxnp3mVaTSrT/M l4QBp2R9REQXXeRkkm6SCVvQnOE0FqRg7o00Ulch07kXHeC0KXPeJekMkfNYN+1szKQI5k1 BKp5XtXUqw5wSuTkaDsQg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cHcely8DLP0=:rzXwmQqUs1QIll3u31csxQ CAiURR0VBLaxcW5sXyRpscLq+UYX8ucwTRJ+1lSSxfg4z4SmVjsSu622ASXLRF1R9ocHadvdr wgmG/uN9P910FYi7XsqAv2j4AQ3d3b9ndToSFaODwSGyNqqgdQcKeBrFZokwAiqRQ9aT9augu 15ssvMzhNO6i2oaCvoNfqkMkteUf6YtzjmANY6TboJTGCIW/9QA6ybRBRptsZBzRLlwgUahsc yvg+/6CgvQWhzzElfa+QiGwNOOoMqHNY6WD6JjsLqDe4xalwpo16nyQgeOfmhVeSF4WsWnEQa UpFhRKRrlgkhNFgk0GViTDRwV7kT1tqcjogBq6bcd88MNTPWgaQSeAtkexvd/m2xwEmHHrqqD dhufX4YCHpLad8/Q+1UxIn1QUx/E3xkdj/9U4tVvReXdIfgy1JkdXZR6mHMZHs6/zuU5TJCSl pzGRo+5cd9m/a5x6YlXlEPknP58ParmtA7lljP0XMm+2EDSuPBO/+qrZMCo2aeZAOeLyv1VBy dsZ1IG9VpcOLEqGjg/sK6pvWd1FC3EOPzmVg21aa+feGr7332GGcyCgMEAVZa7UkXlpH6LpQ6 lZ2NFEvX/iMd05Y6DkGcDXikG6MH16rJfAdHrhy/aojaRbCGe5lJVhsTostOAm3RD/O3d46eU vNEUuDv38IhVLOvtEpfCRhkJIWfXxz6D1au7rO0Z5v0zh5JPKAPnmeVLAVImRpyI/NHGbHxns qIrE4ln89KEU8HDkEs9qz5+pHgfhxQMyVJ/NI/ol54Dc82wJ5ixtcs7cbHyre1tO4Hhlwg5Cy MuTXBSZUif2/gJKQYYFg9GHj1+ASQvFufPngx4GQNgr11rbipslPnkD4tklM7pWaew+x/W+Ug 5vNFl9kA4lCJurM1Cx6w== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I can reproduce this bug in Emacs 28: > > (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 0 0) > => t > (frame-position (selected-frame)) > => (-10 . 66) -10 is the position of the WM border. I tried to describe that in Bug#40817. The frame proper starts at 0. > If I do this, I can clearly see that the frame isn't outside the screen > (i.e., I can see other windows between the Emacs frame and the border of > the screen): > > (set-frame-position (selected-frame) 9 0) > => t > > But still: > > (frame-position (selected-frame)) > => (-1 . 66) > > This is a Debian bullseye system with Gnome Shell. > > Anybody got an idea what's going on here? Mutter doesn't like us. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 27 02:58:50 2020 Received: (at 32977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2020 07:58:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYeY-0001Jj-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:58:50 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYeW-0001JW-8p for 32977@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:58:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZIKMSbb7WN3T1xB1yhNFud99Uzv+gkiHgl8d/aYsPnQ=; b=tz1pmtLnwTPvmXsMzI5NfIFXsB xwVbbs5iHbINhWUr50nTRZMs9PR6p1oCio6dpFRXzMpNobjMGr3rMalq0IX3mCteKDz5tcfm/pT4T AavKSSkH4S1Pr63LzILCtfMrV06oEzH/MU8nrCLiF1x1YqVaeJw1dzzofXAToWjhUc18=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYeM-0004y1-Qa; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:58:42 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#32977: 26.1.50; Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions References: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUdGBaCYm9UPET/ ///ZTkq4AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QLGwcuDy8+EIMAAAFTSURBVCjPjVFNa8JAEJ2G BrZ7riX0tIS2rPMrRFDoLQUToicpKI2/Yl1U0hwLSuxpWRC2+ysbk2xs6aVzmrdv9r35APgTAYg2 8+LhTA8cmGTjfld0t09OrgziTF93jA6FP7+oEQZSFHVKOQnzkNkGKAxz1KwWITwMCecNAFKZCaZa ASVpJ+Yht9vOljO17ZgCceNyTxeFI9bppRePPlG+ds0VnJorN93TPTVrV3dTKtKm1haUUmEUmYOf LQ7JcqmzeFtCPB8douhgp/4ugpMc96J0gs/+7hb8dJQuRvEwmU1rb1MZdy3EVPho2nb6L4D7HBvg SzgmRdCAzSscezlzcwIL63XQgVFKK5BYfSIP1ZiI+Uf1AJ6xqxX9zK0oz3ayYji+nxkQlnqagMfR nQQ4N/X1UFhWlX7VW3gUlksr38raCc6MVEH7B7ngIoAf8Qv8O74Bmr1iBcXp8PAAAAAldEVYdGRh dGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAtMTEtMjdUMDc6NDY6MTUrMDA6MDDJ+p/6AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlm eQAyMDIwLTExLTI3VDA3OjQ2OjE1KzAwOjAwuKcnRgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Cam Deas's _SHAPE Wire CD'2020_: "Rhythmic Landscapes 2 (edit)" Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:58:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 16:45:20 +0100") Message-ID: <87im9rkz82.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: martin rudalics writes: > -10 is the position of the WM border. I tried to describe that in > Bug#40817. The frame proper starts at 0. I see. Would it make sense to mention something about this in the `frame-position' doc string. I.e., that the value is (somewhat) system-dependent? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: Kai Tetzlaff , 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics writes: > -10 is the position of the WM border. I tried to describe that in > Bug#40817. The frame proper starts at 0. I see. Would it make sense to mention something about this in the `frame-position' doc string. I.e., that the value is (somewhat) system-dependent? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 27 04:35:19 2020 Received: (at 32977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2020 09:35:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43981 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kia9v-0005wA-JV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:35:19 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:41513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kia9u-0005vu-GG for 32977@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 04:35:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606469712; bh=am0F6waedWF5yc0jShCkf0jyuVjyJbkfTG86u5qJHU0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ly14qdLkQL8IvM61QMsm4EWZ+ObJQIrGCPkJJ8Vp0TQ1NOh4agOWPBUaUzg4zV/JU Geu4J3smxxLE2JB63eqm+c6j3BFe+y5iRdCMrGAqRMFses9hRKd7tOfc1hMXHQOvVK wydXDMkyD4P+AQtGA4ZLVPQl8HQzKINkz9oLER64= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.185]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N17Ye-1k39mv3jDe-012X6u; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:35:11 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#32977: 26.1.50; Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions To: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> <87im9rkz82.fsf@gnus.org> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:35:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87im9rkz82.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Q14nZyD1u7wnmJ7luLqzMmr7mqD9UBx0U2m7J540bO1qvFJk92y ZvZSYgqrVH9yLQiK7BH0yRpSk+QkHd5CzhTEFoOxi81bte+bCE4qSC8azP2zXgyu5+7YTIy puVVE4P+nblrVVimSw+KMFf5iIRhRO+KdIi0gKwHwcymoEQoudmwRwi0iz/ZdNVdxnf8l0S zbeooJmhSaUby3ei6rEoA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:BQMi0/KPykc=:QynayZQn3dVg9xfNrg+PWX +BrfwhNR9zNv1WCdI6ijny6DrsQSlUpuQHxW9/hp9C8jAUMnwlkRAa9ZslBZrtslwEDiGmg9t 03HpX5SwinUxhgUPco7Zsqabftfr+6UgAUXJs44KttKZdY4Gi4MO5PtgerY6VLbAh6tu89Cuz meuGHy9Azq+bXw//+iVdO4ePNQUR8lyMsjpbeBXCiseM45nRnJkOEiTDlZUx7hYvY5hLtjrW1 dJcJy4ijvqAAFEds3nX25jEmrvRTRIZtNKpEOt1NRpKUh3gBfFPZgXjgeWnddR/csYnsqiHXv NTjdmeOORdirezhzoIIyR/Pr3PxbGB5hkh7tnsGCPGTyZnnLkJG8HR58XwKGPXNWRpj4/kkDi 8NFSj8gPSatjKrz17NQiRZQ2mcDZbz6gblpB9CRsRIKKzPJ3o/TdiDTgX+4UeEsE4SfVwxLA/ lGdPWgq/pbVRMktuv1jwIrIlweSQ6hKwVVcol5FCVjddo3h2euBpDIg0IauDjUnYcIuZI3H0k t+QuAjQCjkoeVcnu0e9Vko/kHo0YwsxvrCYYKh2xdEF7VfUibSy0VnWLKJyPkRul7laElEaqH YMlb4iQERu0A2Zp1i4dq3n4TWqNAOelNV77i7alTvsp/Cjfn4BNjOuA28pZkNBw+pgPVe0/39 rp2GhXpaHh3pI36PUlIc2nAZgaOcdlJCn8qWmdb8/hK8pUw2T1btbjJ5vEbyht4kEXDthZ5gk ohuLhNzoswGCPfJBFg6W8i1K/dCeBIrvpgCgDlbiWNOJooDR06q4/TUgXnrRq7ipdXLQL6+HH fGflAXOJS6xZ9jwE3qitFOwjX/RJ5n5sci921CVSGcvWMokPrscj2Kbb3Wc1p5O3k2hr0QEwa 51fAWNhw1J8MsWOfZu6g== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: Kai Tetzlaff , 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> -10 is the position of the WM border. I tried to describe that in >> Bug#40817. The frame proper starts at 0. > > I see. Would it make sense to mention something about this in the > `frame-position' doc string. I.e., that the value is (somewhat) > system-dependent? So far, I haven't been able to find a suitable description of what these WMs do or want to do. Hence any recommendation (and that's what we probably should provide in order to be of any assistance) would have to be based on some sort of second guessing. Maybe it's also an X issue and using pgtk builds will improve things. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 29 05:12:08 2020 Received: (at 32977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2020 10:12:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kjJgd-0006t7-Vt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 05:12:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kjJgc-0006sZ-Eu for 32977@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 05:12:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YcRtvIbUeyYbAOWhhgij8ld2PMB4zOm3uZSTD1eFjD8=; b=hwHv0MEXUS10SsrHn0hKsnZNbx PmTURuW86EunCcfkFVDfGZlca2Ao8o7btX7ojxECZmtzL2zzf9BjSu7QiDq58RZpNQR5BRxa1N9d1 DWAvE1O7Hn9q5beJkw7P8+0KKZiwZAIMaVxujmv49uoVP5vsV0f0fqTJ24sr5k4AOfqg=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjJgT-0004JU-Sp; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:12:00 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#32977: 26.1.50; Emacs (on gnome 3, wayland, debian buster) calculates incorrect horizontal positions References: <878t398tjr.fsf@web.de> <875z5ss1rc.fsf@gnus.org> <87im9rkz82.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWYX16GWlrXyL7/ //9u4OxpAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QLHQkrEYezq3MAAAGGSURBVCjPPZHBattAEIZn hRWoTq6Ie/ApFAphnkIJOfkkjMYUnXps9RSycUrYUxHJxaeVcMzqf8rOyEoEy+ynf/bfnRkiopWU jn4yoHtKpSLa4APKwv2awUn65H6oRAU5J9vzohWFilwh3C/om8JXSssaozp4hQeRBuPScQZalkth jAXFLcinRAZJuAUhFApxwW0KindPB31JDrcxKFSAfynZIPO4NBr0npgioFsHoG8ofGnAr2sg0obC /QaH56YDpTWFZI3Qc76XiomyDuCXf2QGlF2sLI+pOH4HzsdE9xe64xF4/n1ok9NAAyIjfcwPf7sT 6W3Ze0FAWNUUAR/shBmArxs/wfzFP67+BIyioIcw6NqLpsXBwOe4MYiDisPRpjClmYHjq1vQpkep QI39TeD9SrtTGyzhu7Oe2QJHLd+/2gt2Wg3axL/ZsHRGe27Zv+0M1OE72LeWJipf5ueRbCe4NkR2 FthP9Yg6oOfTVTGHPa9nUIf+vp5hih/K5JDPUFm0O/EfFb0JCzV+bpUAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3Jl YXRlADIwMjAtMTEtMjlUMDk6NDM6MTcrMDA6MDBiKL+MAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIw LTExLTI5VDA5OjQzOjE3KzAwOjAwE3UHMAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Don Bruce And The Angels's _Nigeria 70 (No Wahala: Highlife, Afro-Funk & Juju 1973-1987)_: "Kinuye" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:11:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:35:10 +0100") Message-ID: <878sakiiab.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: martin rudalics writes: >> I see. Would it make sense to mention something about this in the >> `frame-position' doc string. I.e., that the value is (somewhat) >> system-dependent? > > So far, I haven't been able to find a s [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32977 Cc: Kai Tetzlaff , 32977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics writes: >> I see. Would it make sense to mention something about this in the >> `frame-position' doc string. I.e., that the value is (somewhat) >> system-dependent? > > So far, I haven't been able to find a suitable description of what these > WMs do or want to do. Hence any recommendation (and that's what we > probably should provide in order to be of any assistance) would have to > be based on some sort of second guessing. Maybe it's also an X issue > and using pgtk builds will improve things. I think just mentioning that there's a quirk here in the doc string is helpful, so I've now done that in the `frame-position' doc string. 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