From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.153726823415534 (code B ref -1); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:58:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 10:57:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43680 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgw-00042U-Ck for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49876) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgu-00042F-6R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgn-0002Mq-VS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgn-0002Mh-Rz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgm-0003yl-P5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgk-0002JP-1y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:04 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:33589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Dgi-0002CX-A7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:57:01 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 220.244.158.222 Received: from epi.local (220-244-158-222.tpgi.com.au [220.244.158.222]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFD584000B for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:56:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Van L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:56:50 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) Hello. I use eww-mode to visit a webpage, such as,=20 = http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb= -9780198614128-e-52566 I press 'R to have the page more readable. When I press the key M-e for the command forward-sentence ; I expect to = have the point goto the end of that sentence. It overshoots to the end of the paragraph. The point is a the second character of the first sentence of a five = sentence paragraph. I type M-e and point jumps to the period at the end = of the last sentence and one more position further.= From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153727159928709 (code B ref 32758); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 11:53:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43699 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EZC-0007Sz-TM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:53:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EZB-0007Sm-A9 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:53:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EZ2-0006Ru-T3 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:53:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EZ2-0006Rp-NK; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:53:08 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EZ0-0002TP-7s; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:53:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:52:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:56:50 +1000) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:56:50 +1000 > > I use eww-mode to visit a webpage, such as, > > http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-52566 > > I press 'R to have the page more readable. > > When I press the key M-e for the command forward-sentence ; I expect to have the point goto the end of that sentence. > > It overshoots to the end of the paragraph. With that page's text, you should set sentence-end-double-space to nil, to have the behavior you want. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153727303131425 (code B ref 32758); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 12:17:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EwJ-0008An-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:17:11 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:36071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EwH-0008Ae-T0 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:17:10 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 220.244.158.222 Received: from epi.local (220-244-158-222.tpgi.com.au [220.244.158.222]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7648F1BF20B; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:17:01 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > With that page's text, you should set sentence-end-double-space to > nil, to have the behavior you want. Can Emacs be smartish about sentence-end spacing? look at the periods = and spaces between sentences in a paragraph and interpret according to = use which is common in the wild wild web. If I do according to the = suggestion won=E2=80=99t I miss out on double space endings between = sentences? I want all possible worlds. I should have posted this to help-emacs first.= From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.15372766385352 (code B ref 32758); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 13:17:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2FsT-0001OF-Sh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:17:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2FsQ-0001Nz-Rs for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:17:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2FsG-0007xW-MY for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:17:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2FsG-0007xS-HI; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:17:04 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3025 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2FsE-0000eY-P5; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:17:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:16:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:17:01 +1000) References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:17:01 +1000 > Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org > > Can Emacs be smartish about sentence-end spacing? look at the periods and spaces between sentences in a paragraph and interpret according to use which is common in the wild wild web. It would need some statistical analysis of the text and guesswork based on that, but I don't see why that would be impossible. Patches welcome. > If I do according to the suggestion won’t I miss out on double space endings between sentences? No, but you might "acquire" sentences where there are none, such as 3 of them in "J. R. Hacker". From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153735827925044 (code B ref 32758); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 11:57:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2b7H-0006Vs-JX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:57:59 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:32777) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2b7F-0006Vj-Vg for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:57:58 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 220.244.158.222 Received: from epi.local (220-244-158-222.tpgi.com.au [220.244.158.222]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E08F960013; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:57:50 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > It would need some statistical analysis of the text and guesswork > based on that, but I don't see why that would be impossible. Patches > welcome. Double spaced sentence-endings are actually easier to read.=20 Is the 'R command for eww-readable easier work to have double spaced = sentence-endings?= From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153735954127545 (code B ref 32758); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 12:19:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45197 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bRd-0007AC-Ca for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:19:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54892) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bRb-00079u-N8 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:19:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bRT-0004Y9-ER for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:18:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40291) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bRT-0004Y3-9x; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:18:51 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4337 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bRS-0002nm-NV; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:18:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:18:51 +0300 Message-Id: <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:57:50 +1000) References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:57:50 +1000 > Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > It would need some statistical analysis of the text and guesswork > > based on that, but I don't see why that would be impossible. Patches > > welcome. > > Double spaced sentence-endings are actually easier to read. We are not going to change the defaults, so this is not necessarily an argument against such a feature. > Is the 'R command for eww-readable easier work to have double spaced sentence-endings? I don't think it matters, but I don't know EWW well enough to say definitively. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 11:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153891002114447 (code B ref 32758); Sun, 07 Oct 2018 11:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2018 11:00:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g96nN-0003kv-5N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:00:21 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:46687) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g96nL-0003ke-12 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:00:19 -0400 Received: from epi.local (220-244-158-222.tpgi.com.au [220.244.158.222]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C5A09240007; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 22:00:11 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>> Patches >>> welcome. Will it be enough for a `sentence-end-single-space=E2=80=99 variable to = go in paragraphs.el and to fit in the sentence-end function among the = re-patterns lines 190 to 200? 25.3.1 Emacs paragraphs.el=20 netbsd-8.0 =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 =E2=94=82 178 (defun sentence-end () =E2=94=82 179 "Return the regexp describing the end of a sentence. =E2=94=82 180 =20 =E2=94=82 181 This function returns either the value of the variable = `sentence-end' =E2=94=82 182 if it is non-nil, or the default value constructed from = the =E2=94=82 183 variables `sentence-end-base', = `sentence-end-double-space', =E2=94=82 184 `sentence-end-without-period' and = `sentence-end-without-space'. =E2=94=82 185 =20 =E2=94=82 186 The default value specifies that in order to be = recognized as the =E2=94=82 187 end of a sentence, the ending period, question mark, or = exclamation point =E2=94=82 188 must be followed by two spaces, with perhaps some = closing delimiters =E2=94=82 189 in between. See Info node `(elisp)Standard Regexps'." =E2=94=82 190 (or sentence-end =E2=94=82 191 ;; We accept non-break space along with space. =E2=94=82 192 (concat (if sentence-end-without-period "\\w[ = \u00a0][ \u00a0]\\|") =E2=94=82 193 "\\(" =E2=94=82 194 sentence-end-base =E2=94=82 195 (if sentence-end-double-space =E2=94=82 196 "\\($\\|[ \u00a0]$\\|\t\\|[ \u00a0][ = \u00a0]\\)" "\\($\\|[\t \u00a0]\\)") =E2=94=82 197 "\\|[" sentence-end-without-space "]+" =E2=94=82 198 "\\)" =E2=94=82 199 "[ \u00a0\t\n]*"))) =E2=94=82 200 =20 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153892368020237 (code B ref 32758); Sun, 07 Oct 2018 14:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2018 14:48:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g9ALf-0005GL-TC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:48:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g9ALc-0005G3-P3 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:47:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g9ALU-00077i-Fx for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:47:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g9ALU-00077a-B7; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:47:48 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2146 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g9ALT-0008I7-QU; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 10:47:48 -0400 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 17:47:39 +0300 Message-Id: <834ldx24qc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Sun, 7 Oct 2018 22:00:11 +1100) References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 22:00:11 +1100 > Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org > > >>> Patches > >>> welcome. > > Will it be enough for a `sentence-end-single-space’ variable to go in paragraphs.el and to fit in the sentence-end function among the re-patterns lines 190 to 200? Sorry, I don't understand the proposal. Can you show a patch? Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153895698522576 (code B ref 32758); Mon, 08 Oct 2018 00:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2018 00:03:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g9J0r-0005s4-6t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 20:03:05 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:49053) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g9J0o-0005rv-Ro for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 20:03:03 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 220.244.158.222 Received: from epi.local (220-244-158-222.tpgi.com.au [220.244.158.222]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 751821C0002; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 00:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <834ldx24qc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:02:55 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92FCD05D-7CE4-43CE-AAD1-2C487D9D6B13@scratch.space> References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> <834ldx24qc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Can you show a patch? The question was is here the place to put the patch for the expected = function to forward-sentence when in an eww buffer in read mode where = sentences are single spaced. This is the runup to locating a patch to be = made.= From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.153942295532252 (code B ref 32758); Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2018 09:29:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gBGEV-0008O8-D8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 05:29:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gBGET-0008Ns-H0 for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 05:29:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gBGE9-0002A8-UO for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 05:29:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gBGE8-00029G-0K; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 05:28:53 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4141 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gBGE6-0002BX-R7; Sat, 13 Oct 2018 05:28:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:28:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83lg72ure0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <92FCD05D-7CE4-43CE-AAD1-2C487D9D6B13@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:02:55 +1100) References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> <834ldx24qc.fsf@gnu.org> <92FCD05D-7CE4-43CE-AAD1-2C487D9D6B13@scratch.space> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:02:55 +1100 > Cc: 32758@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Can you show a patch? > > The question was is here the place to put the patch for the expected function to forward-sentence when in an eww buffer in read mode where sentences are single spaced. This is the runup to locating a patch to be made. The place to make the change is indeed in paragraphs.el. But you were also talking about a variable sentence-end-single-space, which doesn't exist, and I don't have a clear idea what kind of changes in the regexps used by sentence-end did you have in mind. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:13:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32758: 26.1 emacs-mac 7.2; forward-sentence in eww overshoots to paragraph ending Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 18:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32758 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Van L , 32758@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32758-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32758.155777116519692 (code B ref 32758); Mon, 13 May 2019 18:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 32758) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2019 18:12:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRM-00057Y-Q0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:44 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRL-00057Q-Vo for 32758@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:44 -0400 Received: from [12.41.144.226] (helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRI-0000RH-L7; Mon, 13 May 2019 20:12:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83y3bzf2ee.fsf@gnu.org> <41DEB3C8-F38E-42AF-88AC-43AFA7BB08E7@scratch.space> <83r2hreyii.fsf@gnu.org> <64E5349A-1933-41FC-9D3D-94B4A516A3C9@scratch.space> <83r2hpel3o.fsf@gnu.org> <834ldx24qc.fsf@gnu.org> <92FCD05D-7CE4-43CE-AAD1-2C487D9D6B13@scratch.space> <83lg72ure0.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83lg72ure0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:28:55 +0300") Message-ID: <87d0kmw7e3.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: I don't really see this is as something that eww should be meddling with -- it's up to the user to decide what they want to consider a sentence end. It might perhaps be nice if there was a different setting for this in, say, all special-mode buffers (as opposed to editing modes), so perhaps a new bug report should be opened for that if somebody fe [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I don't really see this is as something that eww should be meddling with -- it's up to the user to decide what they want to consider a sentence end. It might perhaps be nice if there was a different setting for this in, say, all special-mode buffers (as opposed to editing modes), so perhaps a new bug report should be opened for that if somebody feels that that's a good idea, but I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 13 14:12:54 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2019 18:12:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46130 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRW-00057t-1Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43728) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRU-00057l-40 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:52 -0400 Received: from [12.41.144.226] (helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQFRR-0000RQ-Bd for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 20:12:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:12:47 -0400 Message-Id: <87bm06w7ds.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #32758 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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