From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:24:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15367658243902 (code B ref -1); Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:24:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2018 15:23:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g06zX-00010r-9N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:23:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g05ma-0005X4-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mQ-0006QG-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mP-0006Pr-M9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mF-0002ur-VE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05m5-0006Di-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:05:55 -0400 Received: from smtp.numethik.fr ([80.67.190.197]:36094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05m5-0006As-5w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:05:45 -0400 Message-ID: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1536761140; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to: references; bh=KoraJs4bkSTZ+BudliR/AT0kgVNS3Wn3RAehxzLj0kE=; b=854PrVp9ausrObEKM3XfH1qfLzLS/ZmGdhnIifyXOTRBUrzogsD1VtqFu53hTgCiQYwyD8 OzSOCACxYyCKiOIKXnrYDpLlht9u43TDcjyH/1sXNvxcxjnn9HJWPm2WvEb71oNCYUXiXU 0veiQJfvejso4EQT4ivL7MuUs31ItE5WT/oWv83/wa7n+GbpIb0voq8TYsXlffxZmiyeu7 mHrdWd40BKGyv27D2wQYQhPBt9gBMzFoc/RRpQKV2PV+QNyX9K/GWMU0xjlCMWvQepmFQ0 ayROywqo8IEeuBfg++ZWlwvu0JGimJkuZ8ri6ygwt5xYuZ4vbYSgv+7kS/wPDQ== From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:05 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YUEU/CinmcN/zKvpZNFb" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:23:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) --=-YUEU/CinmcN/zKvpZNFb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. I don't understand why Emacs quote Github, a non-free platform, when I want to publish my org-blog : M-x org-publish-all [=E2=80=A6] Publishing file home/nico/Documents/Travaux/.nico/www/Tutoriels/Emacs/org-m= ode-listes-de-taches.org using =E2=80=98org-html-publish-to-html=E2=80=99 org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 2237... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 2786... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 3397... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 3846... org-babel-exp process org at position 4931... org-html-fontify-code: Please install htmlize from https://github.com/hniks= ic/emacs-htmlize Surely, I think I should editing my former publications to pass Emacs 25.1 to Emacs 26.1. But I also think that Emacs must not quote GitHub. Thank you for everything done. 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Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Floquet Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15367673186556 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2018 15:48:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g07Nd-0001hg-NI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35753) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g07Nc-0001hS-I7 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g07NS-0005u0-EC for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41765) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g07NR-0005ta-93; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2629 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g07NQ-0001yk-IV; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:48:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:48:18 +0300 Message-Id: <83zhwmlnst.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> (message from Nicolas Floquet on Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:05 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Floquet > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:05 +0200 > > I don't understand why Emacs quote Github, a non-free platform, when I > want to publish my org-blog : Could you please report this to the Org developers? Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Floquet Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15368097359711 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2018 03:35:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0IPn-0002WY-4X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0IPk-0002WI-VH for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0IPf-0006Ur-2L for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0IPZ-0006Na-FS; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:21 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0IPY-000465-4I; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:20 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> (message from Nicolas Floquet on Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:05 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:20 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Emacs should not advise people to load anything from outside Emacs (counting ELPA). So this needs to be deleted. If htmlize is useful, we should put it into Emacs. Is there some obstacle to that? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:14:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153685162224134 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:14:04 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2018 15:13:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TJN-0006HA-Gj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from smtp.numethik.fr ([80.67.190.197]:52572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0M7e-0000Zy-1q for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <0f248e290a6a931135c6f8510154294209be6617.camel@flqt.fr> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1536823985; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TogVyUUF35TWcILmRPOBbbLibNiNLQuzzIiHHnSlgC4=; b=RKe75U3flJi9BKJpCiyFN/HMZRiK7t2VM96G7KuiuNFnCOopbjJ0q3xV2V2dkxMqgaoMzG WLXSL4V6Zo1XI+sOkKVcE2ab7htqXkAUUZbl9UdwZ9/UWDD9/aDWw2SGJ8eGDWOE18WG5E w+421X4eh5eZm6vH0+8SM6yokwHjC9qlJnMxQfzmKO1i/dRpEkkGtFpRPJqayFLpa1Y8wt FgL5ADhZ7C2VOtkfWE5n1zvIJMK0Ih/E8nJasjirjMX3PfczcKqxhQbZZFwnzpyqGRRU98 gx9iYdYmE+1Zv3VIQtpv+b8UFOZAVqSrvGucWq2oJn+LoibseQp51eSY3UjZOQ== From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:33:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83zhwmlnst.fsf@gnu.org> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83zhwmlnst.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:13:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Le mercredi 12 septembre 2018 à 18:48 +0300, Eli Zaretskii a écrit : > Could you please report this to the Org developers? Thanks. It's done. Thanks. Le mercredi 12 septembre 2018 à 23:35 -0400, Richard Stallman a écrit : > Emacs should not advise people to load anything from outside Emacs > (counting ELPA). So this needs to be deleted. > > If htmlize is useful, we should put it into Emacs. > Is there some obstacle to that? Thank you rms. -- | Numérion | Nicolas Floquet | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Services informatiques en logiciels libres | | XMPP : nflqt@jabber.fr | Tél : 06.32.93.03.51 | | Ğ1 : BjZFP7UpKjJ9hbavhT2Ep2hP58noXp6xdPY4awsX17yD | | PGP : 94C7 641B 719E B06A F406 7AB3 3709 C700 E548 F996 | +----------------------------------------------------------+ From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: Nicolas Floquet , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153685239425595 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2018 15:26:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TVp-0006ek-Ma for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TVn-0006eW-Qu for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TVi-000118-2O for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TVf-0000yL-8N; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0TVd-0000QB-D3; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:21 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> X-Spook: radar AVN Israel Scammers Wave 22nd SAS Twister initiative X-Ran: vB_*+^,#z'oV->a^N.lVadw(loU%[Qd:P%Q.?Y),4}KjwKHY:xf!>0W-B9|`FaMkfs7LkF X-Hue: brightwhite X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:26:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:35:20 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Richard Stallman wrote: > If htmlize is useful, we should put it into Emacs. > Is there some obstacle to that? Emacs already includes htmlfontify, since 23.2. Is there some obstacle to Org using that? (bug#7506) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Kaushal Modi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: n@flqt.fr, emacs-org list , Richard Stallman , Nicolas Goaziou , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15368530222044 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2018 15:37:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Tfx-0000Wu-Tw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:37:02 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f42.google.com ([209.85.167.42]:35339) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0Tfw-0000WK-Ec for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:37:00 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f42.google.com with SMTP id q13-v6so5220457lfc.2 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Yuh9U5rASZYFUTm7aCfjPnAZe+GRTaJ4MpWXOlMaVPc=; b=Z3IRHlx8BxpnwIs4y9K4Ha5xFf7bnW8i/xlRBu5mZ0KcVsrpx8klXAuG6fVPytJla6 InCVS5up4Ad5k+6RcIrh2LJ9LYxYMu4mJKmw0fNoWxcoh4UL2gVyGCrRrLw9vtuOc4cK F9v/uATCOLUGqI5KIJJ97h6HIoF4T+2xw3hkoZwZ55brBD7mZedlZC3axD8QC1Yti3/6 zRgWKpfar8yiFtlDgU5hs9MER/TqKFWoStSswtsImu7rBmHQBG4Eu70Sk7TxQt4ipQls UoZBX3DLoB8JBNN5Mn7M9Ae77yrwT3tp8LZFjrlY49I3i6gLr5tvBQV9U4RU6aAesN8G dzqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Yuh9U5rASZYFUTm7aCfjPnAZe+GRTaJ4MpWXOlMaVPc=; b=FSw1VxLotvES9xrASj0ytQg+QFDW4L3LHcGNhyVXja/AmqB3Lqcv6f8mV20/Tobz4F wikwW4csT8Z2VBZX+zc0njAm+ztwwkZ5s7R7AfFcACRvbrOluoMQO1J9TxWPx7+pPehh FtK6bxr0v+/loLjnY7lhJ3BvuMfSQBYobDug5WqaLTGoNpe8r1hXjRu4ZYvz48Agdypt oQ1BGwK7FqpV10XYaswrptT0rEOoKPHDtqH6mkMaKx+J2h3M4sGkKyy2+Do7HHsVmJMT l1QMVfmCmhtCh1DnDJljLE1JJLmUlROjWfl0nfgc9vs2oj1u/qjL9d+SgUfIj08vibAT V4fg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BvAfOUkHNOghx8CWZCLV0j1x72JK+dD4OM1Hyli3nm7fQKrAky aY9LpnYfnZ4ebTOrEzGUINcaFK/Ky1rgSBxEFn8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbNugf7Pu+qwvi10Ka2cIc54OwH+5Uo2hUwJevRQl9K7foMhymtCRar2JpTwsoE4e6rtceZr4072bFyZXjKO8g= X-Received: by 2002:a19:1517:: with SMTP id l23-v6mr5627764lfi.69.1536853014230; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> In-Reply-To: From: Kaushal Modi Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:36:17 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:28 AM Glenn Morris wrote: > > Emacs already includes htmlfontify, since 23.2. > Is there some obstacle to Org using that? (bug#7506) This has been discussed before on the Org mailing list. >From what I remember, there is not objection to use that instead; it's just that someone has to work on converting ox-html to use htmlfontify instead of htmlize. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Samuel Wales Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kaushal Modi Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: Glenn Morris , n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , emacs-org list , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153687591924328 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2018 21:58:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0ZdH-0006KK-FI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:58:39 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f68.google.com ([209.85.167.68]:42685) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0ZdF-0006K1-62 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:58:37 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f68.google.com with SMTP id z11-v6so6120488lff.9 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Iwy6wA7cH8X3qbrL3CAC6169LlhRSCMe3NXHvFH0MjY=; b=a2RzAJGkx+szWGOhKwjewdI/LAG+tkZIsaPqr3b7CPDByVZMMKnrmSplXWvTgJ3vIj iLSGEMAgC7aD4YOlWsVomqQDXbvkINMMO02qCeVh+a/0RcvXKL6mzirOR9c2IBD1GnRp OhNjsfkAoiiGZVrCTLHWJnY+oMG7jIS8/r89IGOKBsH7yuu/joVSEN7xIXa18EMoYJhA sqkrX0+voddaXIHdPHQ6HbdzaO3EccArEW1UBZcpICoTXUQTnN3eCrX4cjqBi+l+1+Pw RpXA/nEnGVhv8HH8XmvpECoNqWdTwpu//0W497oP9abvZXeSekM64CwvtQALPvwjY6C1 LOKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Iwy6wA7cH8X3qbrL3CAC6169LlhRSCMe3NXHvFH0MjY=; b=hqqrlLlHsrj5O7JwluQ6Kl4ITKjgoCkSQ1qwNedqu4t6KY1LjWwVL7c7mP7EUmL+T7 tp9cPh8JnjyXUL1OfsBFkYcBeqIYw8cMuLsFIdwFsplFHi8PDCVh3SVvlD4BpfrCYpxx yHjC0llPORGPBnmFWU6TY0PZbn1sSv4b7ZEa5oxNgVnLp9tsUdq2a72EWd0h8gAOBRtS dDcHzxJiTYIgW/zCibGStuHju5JZpxXtUUCl7tXiw3RiJ5ZsbjzkXlOxFlbOrbfGc253 g0EumKLIAlBP1552d+CNBOEmMqnWNFSxoI2FvuJ55AxPJXk4S5wASRcSbv5Rc7k4hsn2 i1aw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ADE68mftNWhluu3WryzBzQXYmQ+VBXen3X3OLxYO0e091x2AKL VHDxfdb5giiLomLAm+0WOCW9uyr6W4Bx5fsynLw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaQNKQHvNCde1DzsSutoRooTVufhHULKTWcZtz+jFsoVXOTXqMpDqimZzWoQhMz66do+f/exZ+/0+DtTsJu8uI= X-Received: by 2002:a19:5e12:: with SMTP id s18-v6mr6043501lfb.5.1536875910667; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:58:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:d551:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:58:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> From: Samuel Wales Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:58:29 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) (htmlize-buffer-substring-no-invisible b e) is this function available in emacs? if not, it would be good to extract it and put it in emacs, or write one for emacs. On 9/13/18, Kaushal Modi wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:28 AM Glenn Morris wrote: >> >> Emacs already includes htmlfontify, since 23.2. >> Is there some obstacle to Org using that? (bug#7506) > > This has been discussed before on the Org mailing list. > > From what I remember, there is not objection to use that instead; it's > just that someone has to work on converting ox-html to use htmlfontify > instead of htmlize. > > --=20 The Kafka Pandemic: The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY can get it at any time. "You=E2=80=99ve really gotta quit this and get moving, because this is murd= er by neglect." --- . From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kaushal Modi Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153689372928774 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2018 02:55:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0eGX-0007U2-Aj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0eGV-0007Tn-0B for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0eGO-0006SU-T9 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0eGJ-0006Iz-PQ; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:15 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0eGJ-0002Ws-Gt; Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:15 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Kaushal Modi on Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:36:17 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:15 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >From what I remember, there is not objection to use that instead; it's > just that someone has to work on converting ox-html to use htmlfontify > instead of htmlize. To motivate people to do this, I say we shouild not ship another release with that reference to GitHub. Eli, do you agree? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 06:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153690509915927 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 14 Sep 2018 06:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2018 06:04:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0hDv-00048o-HV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:04:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38917) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0hDr-00048T-3s for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:04:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0hDk-0003X8-E0 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:04:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0hDe-0003Ki-81; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:04:42 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1685 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0hDY-0000AT-5P; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 02:04:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:04:25 +0300 Message-Id: <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:15 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:55:15 -0400 > Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr > > > >From what I remember, there is not objection to use that instead; it's > > just that someone has to work on converting ox-html to use htmlfontify > > instead of htmlize. > > To motivate people to do this, I say we shouild not ship another > release with that reference to GitHub. Eli, do you agree? This is an Org issue, so I would like to hear from Org developers before I make up my mind. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15372634506985 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 09:37:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2CRl-0001oZ-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 05:37:29 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:53809) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2CRk-0001oR-30 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 05:37:28 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0769C240008; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:37:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:37:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:04:25 +0300") Message-ID: <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: > This is an Org issue, so I would like to hear from Org developers > before I make up my mind. I read the thread multiple times already but I do not understand exactly the issue risen. >From the OP: "Emacs quotes Github, a non-free platform." If that's the real problem, we can remove the location of the "htmlize" library from the error message and be done with it. Note that the Org manual still talks about iOS and Android, which are not free either. >From Richard Stallman: "Emacs should not advise people to load anything from outside Emacs". Org Export already advises people to load LaTeX libraries, MathJax, optionally minted, etc. Org Babel requires external libraries like "asy-mode.el" (ob-asymptote.el), "simple-httpd" (ob-js.el)... This is a non-issue for us, because it is inherent to Org and thus cannot be solved by Org. >From Glenn Morris: "Emacs already includes htmlfontify, since 23.2. Is there some obstacle to Org using that?" This is begging for a specific solution to a not-so-well defined problem. In any case, Kaushal Modi answered this one. It is nice if this happens, but could we first define correctly the problem so we can tell if this is the only possible solution for it? >From Richard Stallman: "To motivate people to do this, I say we should not ship another release with that reference to GitHub." The issue pointed out here seems to be that Org developers or enthusiasts are not motivated enough to make Org use htmlfontify instead of htmlize. Note this is very different from the initial report. Richard Stallman then suggests a possible fix for that issue. It may or may not work; after all these years spent in education, "motivating people" is a topic that mostly eludes me. Anyway, since this point contains both the question and the answer, I don't know what Org could do about it. This is a genuine question: what /exactly/ do you want Org developers to solve, assuming they can? Also, if they cannot, who is willing to give them a hand? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153727139928372 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 11:49:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EVz-0007NY-D7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:49:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41339) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EVx-0007NK-KC for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:49:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EVo-0003Ev-Ch for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:49:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EVo-0003Ej-7n; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:49:48 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1440 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2EVf-0002Am-4m; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:49:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:49:27 +0300 Message-Id: <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:37:15 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:37:15 +0200 > > This is a genuine question: what /exactly/ do you want Org developers to > solve, assuming they can? Also, if they cannot, who is willing to give > them a hand? >From my POV, the immediate problem is to switch Org-publish from using htmlize to htmlfontify. Can this be done, please? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou , Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153728179221986 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 14:43:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2HDb-0005iY-Oq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:43:11 -0400 Received: from smtp.numethik.fr ([80.67.190.197]:40862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2HDZ-0005iP-7V for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 10:43:10 -0400 Message-ID: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1537281788; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=mU8L++pvhoGjQaer9l6ulJhWLoYDz+pB4rO8dj2r994=; b=TVk3DXtPRZ7Lmooxghf81j+HyV+DIF/+n98aWq89uLfCRi68ZnsY8VUjIQv8ep9fEiXAi/ ND3yTDrce4JVuA2Ldt5sc70a7fbum4oA2kbN2VBAk6qxWEDL1+7AMPJREzOHFB2LrsBikr J3RcyING9dzy38BfnHLnkVMv+1wUHu5ejMSI8U4c+bPmJscXzzY26cbNvQ9mqVXiz9uOpH nvSmgzLPibq7ZkrPzz34iAVqwguAkkflHS5ErUjktrky8V6GbOEJwwch+grvAKFDAJBkuZ 91vzW5tCfPLDsOSswpYPbaT2S03Tf6DEkaZmBj/MCkaJ+C4zPiZOR/GZyhzgeQ== From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:43:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-pW0E8T6kPaYrASdwFnoZ" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-pW0E8T6kPaYrASdwFnoZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le mardi 18 septembre 2018 =C3=A0 11:37 +0200, Nicolas Goaziou a =C3=A9crit= : > I read the thread multiple times already but I do not understand > exactly the issue risen. Actually, it's an ethical issue. That are not always easily solved with technical solutions, I guess=E2=80=A6 > From the OP: "Emacs quotes Github, a non-free platform." If that's > the real problem, we can remove the location of the "htmlize" library > from the error message and be done with it. Indeed. > Note that the Org manual still talks about iOS and Android, which are > not free either. It's true. 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Resent-From: Robert Klein Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou , kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153728383925478 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Hkc-0006cr-LK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:17:19 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.74]:60805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Eu1-00085J-Sv for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:14:50 -0400 Received: from lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de ([194.95.63.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MysFQ-1fpP7D3c1K-00vxEa; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:14:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:14:27 +0200 From: Robert Klein Message-ID: <20180918141427.55178577@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In-Reply-To: <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: roklein.de X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-openbsd6.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:M4oeCmesLCmX1pyKZQ3CDqvc/Gt8mpXET/gizt04C6WQmV6jWT+ lFAuMm2YGLVrTcY+kgLeB+yvrtlT17LbvBQC5RI8LfUyYjYCo7HDgtKMNyPaLUpiva07v7Y j/+l8k/nN7tYeGsUaDqmQn6ifKddHK7OWEILvnvu17+PFgPFQEu10x2RHqioh6ZlHnbZ9op FefDH+L5Gl21GB4HhKIcw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:NmzuxPw3k1U=:2GhixFbA+uEycnnPERZAVY V8wcJhDXMVIVmVkTCR8LYejFqsbT3h/gPPKisp5l98d7+0NEwuRZyFbQNYEDBHdIRAV0lFxCH W5oxsaICZlLTvU7rr3rQuMEPO14wzOuMAJKutz5b962HvJMGJH0CACIQvfuhkR31ilL64i/sk v7bsoIU5aX5U6yYighdiDw/Y1WHpiKm0c6MdleKMaFeJ2FAzcm1OidkOQlE9LQ6p1J62BAAoE NKGJsHaM0SVQ4/PvbdwAh0N/6qSx/sIv2TprLR83yeOVBYak8D8l5o1qAL1xTXJKgHgxRPMLU cuHkYPx1Lu4J/JStM2ohW1sp7917UkCC9pYsRQrz1ECYxIW0z/2Knd8ekvJ2p15ARdX3Lf9zc 7Y4EbDABGE8ib0iAEFl8I5gljmWId6RZkRf67R+erGVyxZgVd7qkUj7hTGHfzsqcWxitQQcz9 4wm46Rx/vruQnPm+KGEth/J7EZwglOsxBhr4y3CHG+laJX/bPTLaw7DsLErd8ElYQn072eu4D rqJSiBMoBFceI3v5/ykScw6A1oAUM8QU0IzVaQLrJ94cu1m3eJGxN8sCFlbdrna/Ivk3tZQsp MZzhzlb7BlCkou+B4YrvkOjboku7XWfmRm5WV7FYjJfREC6+rqeQfUH7jD6yWb/pU72ELvhpK dGUEAhWdIdcGtgYMjtjE12Lu75UlZzo35d4jN6kiDOIxJE9h8VmDB07yNulNVuQiMd0216gdx OZDKGobCp67A9tT6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:17:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:49:27 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Nicolas Goaziou > > Cc: rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, n@flqt.fr, > > 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:37:15 +0200 > >=20 > > This is a genuine question: what /exactly/ do you want Org > > developers to solve, assuming they can? Also, if they cannot, who > > is willing to give them a hand? =20 >=20 > From my POV, the immediate problem is to switch Org-publish from using > htmlize to htmlfontify. Can this be done, please? >=20 >=20 >=20 Not easily, no. Afaik htmlfontify always creates a complete HTML document, which htmlize doesn't. Also, htmlize can format parts of a buffer. which htmlfontify can't. Additionally htmlfontify also requires several external tools (according to the man page) which might not be available on all platform Emacs and org-mode is used on: - a copy of =E2=80=9Cfind=E2=80=9D which provides the =E2=80=9C-path=E2=80= =9D predicate - a copy of =E2=80=9Csed=E2=80=9D - a copy of the =E2=80=9Cfile=E2=80=9D command A switch to htmlfontify might end up in rewriting a good part of htmlfontify or some very ugly hacks. If Hrvoje Niksic has or is willing to sign the copyright assignment documents it will be easier to put htmlize.el into Emacs. Best regards Robert From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Robert Horn Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Floquet Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou , kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rjhorniii@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15372888171238 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 16:40:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44659 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2J2u-0000Jt-UG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:40:17 -0400 Received: from mailbackend.panix.com ([166.84.1.89]:60491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2J0U-0000Fw-Uk for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:47 -0400 Received: from quad (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3138537E33; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:46 -0400 (EDT) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Robert Horn In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:40:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Nicolas Floquet writes: > Actually, it's an ethical issue. That are not always easily solved with > technical solutions, I guess=E2=80=A6 > Perhaps you could clarify the ethical issues. The initial RMS comment on this issue in this thread is: /* from RMS email Emacs should not advise people to load anything from outside Emacs (counting ELPA). So this needs to be deleted. If htmlize is useful, we should put it into Emacs. Is there some obstacle to that? */ I can hypothesize various ethical, marketing, operational, and user experience reasons for not advising people to load ... Could you explain the ethical issue(s) that are of specific concern. Further from RMS was the suggested technical fix /* from RMS email later in thread To motivate people to do this, I say we shouild not ship another release with that reference to GitHub. Eli, do you agree? */ This makes it clearly the reference to Github that is the concern. I could accept a change such as replacing that reference with text saying "use ???? to find html..." I'm not sure what to suggest since Google, duck-duck-go, and other search engines are all commercial non-free operations. Rehosting onto a free platform, perhaps gnu.org, might be an option. A simple mirror onto a free platform might suffice. Linux, python, and other major open source efforts deal with platform issues by providing their own primary distribution platform. I can seem some ethical concerns with using a proprietary platform. Git was created due to problems with a dependency on a proprietary platform, although in that case it was more related to a divergence in business strategic directions than ethical issues. -- Robert Horn rjhorniii@gmail.com From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rjhorniii@gmail.com Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15372896162432 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 16:53:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2JFo-0000dA-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:53:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47713) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2JFn-0000cz-Hf for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:53:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2JFd-0005yO-Qm for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:53:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2JFb-0005fH-Pp; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:53:24 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1283 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2JFU-0002Jv-3c; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:53:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:53:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Robert Horn on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:45 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Horn > Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , Eli Zaretskii , kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:45 -0400 > > /* from RMS email later in thread > To motivate people to do this, I say we shouild not ship another > release with that reference to GitHub. Eli, do you agree? > */ > > This makes it clearly the reference to Github that is the concern. We have quite a few references to GitHub in Emacs, just grep for it. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Robert Klein Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153729683829496 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 18:53:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2L8I-0007fg-12 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:53:58 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.133]:42177) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2L8G-0007fM-8P for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:53:56 -0400 Received: from happy.intern.roklein.de ([91.67.155.33]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mt6wz-1fmizP0OID-00tVIe; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:53:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:53:29 +0200 From: Robert Klein Message-ID: <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> In-Reply-To: <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: roklein.de X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-openbsd6.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:GgUmoP20YJn5+3T5BfPNQ0OmUw8OSSanp5gJzgV0u1q0silAyim psogKXe0ogooKrjR7Wu02u1ruIGN65nVIub+4Yig0RfOOX2TVTIWebihq85AQXEsnxm/71l uyH1Gev8ZlGIjhb6VLlLG2mt3/+g1Z0Qn8iJPfZRK3Kr+kgOQDjGNHgH6yziU1mwcJDFPAz nJBFnWsYdxLjJRvMZd/gg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:m9N3n57vqJs=:KmebWZ9rfB3+ue15CWlGZS jn2JJsrQO6Bs8GTQKEhQTEzKS9d59TxcSOZt/2cth/Jc4UN1Bx2a5/U2DHqUuAhpmBx4Hbj1r DSVFPgSQ61weOeCWYtwJA6zV6yb9ULcbcMeejJB+hWKXMdG1Cg+6QdPfAmpjD79+JjImKY1c/ idNhtaTVOflMYltlq2s571co+7iuAwNbHB/zp8sWoBud1Q+7bOR9LiFQnyMOQNYQIcjN1KOl3 UD4vI9fXcU0s3t4rHS2xGfWWQ7LOUM6yvdfVSMzdMbTW50l08fic2GJnFQurCBI6uV9RjdCua Fwrh8rl08M26MwMbPDvr8lXbiz8aV7q8TiNekNTCUdVV+6Wbds+iseI9EAQL0kb6qAWdtHofB 8HDrUQlXUiDgAPwVSiUkq9dbxOUCATtfXSGPmuytMr7Y3I1+pJf2Ix0ZA1tL4Q1OteYtNpKoX BoWJ+xhe9TY8QcJQr+cR48tKZXYME6NqPOSKMHWdr0JJFaWRbJeT7PG9/w70tSZrzo32Zbo+c RA5s2uvWpT4NkBEyw41fExRwESxNQbdh4kYFqgo5RnRqG+Fr4GP8EYrXWMbPF9UfnE0VFXUdP 78tD9RbmFLyNf40RK6wCBFuFO+hwO94Jly9YBM/bDHLxn5pwm5EwORtBYQt3o5WA4kfR2//mk 6t5WevjWxLtf0fdMbibRSqtlvChHRVtYsehdwRjqwDHPCE/A765KXrAHzRdAcG1blAnMb1bf5 lpCA896jVCoG0WVM X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:53:14 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Robert Horn > > Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , Eli Zaretskii > > , kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, > > rms@gnu.org Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:45 -0400 > > > > /* from RMS email later in thread > > To motivate people to do this, I say we shouild not ship another > > release with that reference to GitHub. Eli, do you agree? > > */ > > > > This makes it clearly the reference to Github that is the concern. > > We have quite a few references to GitHub in Emacs, just grep for it. > > > That's, what the original message on the bug list refers to, however. I think the original bug report is bogus. Especially in view of your statement above. As already pointed out by Nicolas Goaziou, org-mode also requires other external stuff (just as htmlfontify does, see my mail and its manual: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/htmlfontify.html#Requirements). The reason, e.g. LaTeX isn't mentioned explicitly in the manual or in org is that it is a well-known software. The link is only given as a friendly hint. Also, in regards to the original bug report, while htmlize is _hosted_ on github, which indeed is not free, htmlize itself _is_ free. Right at the beginning of htmlize.el it says: ;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify ;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by ;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) ;; any later version. When the original poster doesn't want to use htmlize, he probably should try to export without fontifying source code (I think there's a switch, but I'm not sure). Best regards Robert From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Kaushal Modi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Klein Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, Richard Stallman Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153729710429936 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 18:58:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44775 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2LCZ-0007mm-M9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:58:23 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com ([209.85.208.169]:45019) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2LCY-0007mT-BM for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:58:22 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id q127-v6so2732479ljq.11 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:58:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vlQ6ccQ1/UK8vCKX+8Nw2PnSmaBNvLnbW6pylqbDNpw=; b=lzEAAGqE18BxrEnwhp6EZbyWcXPVMedwadJ4+aXoBxcTQravHXZKI7n81UaiLC2NIk KDnL3x88K5HHnUdUX0RFR0ughw9wpNTb0MzzKX+J3zR2UZje6ntEf+AOrcBPkrRAasSg ocFCcnYOQp48+ApSNigLU9RkPPh6AhhAKlq5BejcHVlK2yGFRWLxIH1tQPFt4Te8Grur s2eyIU4RZvTvZ/rc1knghnqMutOuMAjFSSJnvBYcwH4BO79sclpsjexnu4zjrS6+xxF3 08XTzR8mVAGIREP8EQSTb/gyhqvEAFIVCBtgC/2EljrYuAlcvKjO8RFshDQuvuLAGwJ0 SkbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vlQ6ccQ1/UK8vCKX+8Nw2PnSmaBNvLnbW6pylqbDNpw=; b=GBORi9WK1J/MCiCxDzhvun0EXMvnzEAX/H6VMaWyurwBJbdUmSL32tnfwNER+49IWZ 3ZrfKaZLDENPGXijJRrBpet1M3g/L4e7nnH4YLR8PpCTLL3B1MCoCujzXDl1biVFm9e8 MP08KwEYz1A1NzWxwUhrG1JumMbRr24qh/yK8sujjWlakcEHh2UcA2rHvrNIt9yMqCq3 CR6h41QE68eZHB8M/v51g+BFySif6Lnp7WUlQ2/67NweMgSkletEA3w1hnPhqr8C21yJ ujd7XAtAJ1CpLtmjKB7TNOC9xxltnYXCX45qTs6VcUmxC2x1XNSLXRx1NMikNs0a1+ds +RFg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51C/xJ9U3h3mkAcqa0mcKYKzapwjH7j3HOypdNMsQcpbYJ8XOHGS A2oHos71JocVKQrdVTcdH1LURM7Ioh6w5oRAux4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZ48d7BKFIa+5dIxMnzt9I9imCQhgb/I7+g2RIa04KHl3QLEPgYGxvokUCFNdpBo4H8M9VYP2ODueneBh3GiHc= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8957:: with SMTP id b23-v6mr21029234ljk.50.1537297095909; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:58:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> In-Reply-To: <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> From: Kaushal Modi Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:57:39 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:53 PM Robert Klein wrote: > When the original poster doesn't want to use htmlize, he probably > should try to export without fontifying source code (I think there's a > switch, but I'm not sure). Setting org-html-htmlize-output-type to nil will not prompt the user to install htmlize. With that setting, code blocks will not be htmlized, and instead just exported as plain text. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Kaushal Modi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr Cc: n@flqt.fr, roklein@roklein.de, rjhorniii@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-To: Eli Zaretskii , Richard Stallman , emacs-org list , Nicolas Goaziou X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: n@flqt.fr, Robert Klein , rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.1537299029682 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 19:30:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Lhc-0000Aw-PF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:30:29 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f45.google.com ([209.85.167.45]:38034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Lha-0000Ai-Uz for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:30:27 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f45.google.com with SMTP id z186-v6so2937312lfa.5 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qaCSjR6QR/avh2OV4StWxUnQ3ktH+xSx9qCe0lqBn0Q=; b=HDZR3SlHLls6DBcZDfjYblZ418t4cYlcicGL6gQqRw7UyNHF16LbbVmJSS0vVaRVtZ Xqcny3v40GH/nH0sp1UxQmsQUijnPVkaNLLWL1seAjWBT+kriWhF0V9+tT3ONlNMooMh wWXs8KqZ05Yahp+nmCffpkotCP0LevTK20RRD+0gCRMVN2KoMrebi/z2ba1sNrsutx5d ZPCVjGaCRo+zLJ3SzsqqqVPxxGIYYob9k7Vq5o+vlgkhOV/k04AX4d5QnHunfIzQFS/o Q7Gj1aiIWOs6p41H7j0rv/UGqazuPKe+iZ+hTnedyQ/bACGHvTgpR5/rncVm7o8V9AVN wQsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qaCSjR6QR/avh2OV4StWxUnQ3ktH+xSx9qCe0lqBn0Q=; b=VfvyJ40joFWI/zwhWPf9O+hkXcEJBcZL4lRUXABDVKrfJogOKLDEQB6SG2GsHn3rzQ RltEovhqkXAsiNNNUs9n34JWM4Kb7wpW2bovRuXA8xQuCyb47E2f/ZhHkSi5CY4kYOtT sW78v+u6n0W6UA/y+Q6Eb3mM8mvxHbJd6Ge4fv18TNI1b/LEpafru8Wl2DBB98c6kaSC 00ni9RQvMmrh2RW/BK8dKpXoDfKx/v7dTPklfkJIrKJT2ioQJoaPEUFXKA3qPZ/i66Ju KczyGie2CT4+UTFxY1R+/tyVOCwO5hcQoZsDiBEOnm8enrP58pAN/PMwOgLJ29RI1PiI oyyA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DFreydF/8Xo2gminEiCAytgk9Tz0M3Rym1Sw8gFPB3KfUMEwwx fRih8m3a9fCABVgDVjqE/5aaP4aUfb/NxKIG6Tc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaDDolImGlIFZD3QGM246XonbAvA6fiodxSCT4Xr6r4CJ5/N7Nn4wYcqLlMkhXaZmnyD6DtyQGgz1iSKbSP8Lg= X-Received: by 2002:a19:a053:: with SMTP id j80-v6mr20535301lfe.115.1537299020646; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> In-Reply-To: From: Kaushal Modi Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:29:44 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello all, I heard back from htmlize.el author Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87 in his repo's i= ssue thread[0]. So here's the summary: - Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87 does not want to assign the copyright of htmlize = to FSF. So it cannot be part of Emacs, Org mode or even GNU Elpa. - The package will keep living in its GitHub repo. 1. If user has issues with GitHub's non-free JS: - Download htmlize directly from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize/master/htmlize.el. 2. If user does not want to use htmlize, or want Org mode to suggest installing it from GitHub, set org-html-htmlize-output-type to nil. Note that the htmlize.el package by itself is GPLv2, so it is free. Does this settle the issue? [0]: https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize/issues/23 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15373033017399 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 20:41:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2MoX-0001vH-C7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2MoV-0001uy-AZ for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2MoP-0006dG-1d for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2MoE-0006G1-P8; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2MoD-0008Po-Gd; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:21 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: FEMA Scammers United Nations Biological event Forte X-Ran: aq{:ZS-mG)O#QCTH+IhC_3}<+bgDK*Hk (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2018 19:53:14 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) I think (or rather assume) that the issue is that GitHub receives a grade F ("unacceptable") evaluation acccording to the GNU Ethical Repository Criteria; https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html. So does SourceForge, by the way. While there are numerous references to GitHub and SourceForge in Emacs (and some components even nominally live there, by the way, eg CEDET, cc-mode...), it's rare (unique?) for running a GNU Emacs command to actually print "hey, go install something from this non-ethical repository to finish doing what you wanted to do". It's a different level of referencing. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153730484510031 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 21:07:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44811 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2NDQ-0002bj-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:07:25 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:48343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2NDP-0002bY-4L for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:07:23 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C10940002; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 21:07:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:07:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:20 -0400") Message-ID: <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Glenn Morris writes: > I think (or rather assume) that the issue is that GitHub receives > a grade F ("unacceptable") evaluation acccording to the GNU Ethical Repository > Criteria; https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html. > So does SourceForge, by the way. While there are numerous references > to GitHub and SourceForge in Emacs (and some components even nominally > live there, by the way, eg CEDET, cc-mode...), it's rare (unique?) for > running a GNU Emacs command to actually print "hey, go install > something from this non-ethical repository to finish doing what you > wanted to do". It's a different level of referencing. I removed htmlize URL from the error message. I also demoted the latter to a plain message. So, if htmlize is not installed, source blocks are not fontified. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Amin Bandali Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou , Glenn Morris Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153730933517382 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2018 22:22:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2ONr-0004WI-0O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:22:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2OBL-0004BB-5f for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:09:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2OBF-0001Co-FF for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:09:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2OB5-00019X-Ti; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:09:03 -0400 Received: from 199-7-157-23.eng.wind.ca ([199.7.157.23]:1905 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2OAz-0003QV-9a; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:08:57 -0400 From: Amin Bandali In-Reply-To: <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:08:58 -0400 Message-ID: <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:22:14 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I removed htmlize URL from the error message. I also demoted the latter > to a plain message. So, if htmlize is not installed, source blocks are > not fontified. I was going to suggest a less harsher and potentially more helpful approach: in the short term, mirror the htmlize repo on code.orgmode.org, the official Gogs instance where Org mode is hosted and developed. In the long term, work on replacing htmlize with htmlfontify. I set up a mirror: https://code.orgmode.org/aminb/emacs-htmlize Assuming code.orgmode.org uses Gogs' default mirror settings, the repo should be automatically synchronized with upstream roughly every 8 hours or so. This way, we'd still be able to point the users to a concrete address to get htmlize from, without directly pointing them to a proprietary platform. Further, we're not claiminig copyright or maintainership of the repo and we're merely mirroring it on a freedom-respecting platform along with Org itself. -amin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732840431545 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLP-0008Cc-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLM-0008Bv-Lw for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLG-00042w-FO for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLC-0003vI-2E; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:50 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLB-000734-Os; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:49 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:41:20 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:49 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > While there are numerous references > to GitHub and SourceForge in Emacs (and some components even nominally > live there, by the way, eg CEDET, cc-mode...), it's rare (unique?) for > running a GNU Emacs command to actually print "hey, go install > something from this non-ethical repository to finish doing what you > wanted to do". It's a different level of referencing. You've put your finger on the crucial point. Just talking about something that is in GitHub is ok. The problem is suggest users get it and run it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732840731557 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:40:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44964 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLS-0008Ct-Ao for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48088) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLP-0008By-5H for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLJ-00048V-4o for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLB-0003tH-0K; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:49 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLA-00072W-MB; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:48 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:07:19 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:48 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I removed htmlize URL from the error message. I also demoted the latter > to a plain message. So, if htmlize is not installed, source blocks are > not fontified. Thank you. That is a step forward. However, this is still not as it should be. What we really need to do is (1) get htmlize into Emacs, or (2) use some other facility that is in Emacs. Since it now appears we can't do (1), we should do (2). Someone mentioned that there was code in Emacs that we could use instead. It isn't a rush, now, but could someone please volunteer to do this, over the next few months? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kaushal Modi Cc: n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, eliz@gnu.org, roklein@roklein.de X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, eliz@gnu.org, roklein@roklein.de Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732842731601 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:40:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLn-0008DZ-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLk-0008DJ-Am for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLd-0004U1-17 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLE-0003yw-8q; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:52 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLE-00073n-2e; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:52 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Kaushal Modi on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 15:29:44 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:52 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I heard back from htmlize.el author Hrvoje Nikšić in his repo's issue thread[0]. Thanks for asking him. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Klein Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732843031615 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:40:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLp-0008Dq-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLn-0008DN-Li for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLf-0004XI-5X for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLH-000444-Dp; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:55 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLH-00074y-54; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:55 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> (message from Robert Klein on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:53:29 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:55 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > As already pointed out by Nicolas Goaziou, org-mode also requires other > external stuff Those other cases may or may not be problems, depending on the situation. The ability to work with some other free software package (for instance, LaTeX0, if the user happens to use that, is no problem at all. Invoking some separate program, having no particular relationship with Emacs, is ok too if the idea is that that program does some separate job and that's what the user wants to do. However, Emacs should not try to bypass the distro's own package installation system by telling users to install things directly. Would you please show me the other cases where Org suggests loading something else? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rjhorniii@gmail.com Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732844331651 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:03 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:40:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TM3-0008EQ-26 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48541) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TM1-0008E7-PR for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLv-0004x6-VS for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:36 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLg-0004bE-4k; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:21 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TLf-0007CN-E5; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:19 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Horn on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:37:45 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:40:19 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This makes it clearly the reference to Github that is the concern. The concern is _about_ the reference to GitHub, but what _makes it a problem_ is that it is suggesting that people load specific code from there. THAT is the issue here. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Klein Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732849931806 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:41:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMx-0008Gv-Fb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49194) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMv-0008GX-Sj for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMp-0005wL-T1 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMh-0005jq-Qe; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:23 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMh-0007P8-ID; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:23 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <20180918141427.55178577@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> (message from Robert Klein on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:14:27 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918141427.55178577@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:23 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Additionally htmlfontify also requires several external tools > (according to the man page) which might not be available on all > platform Emacs and org-mode is used on: > - a copy of “find” which provides the “-path” predicate > - a copy of “sed” > - a copy of the “file” command Using them is not a problem. Those are part of the GNU system, and you can install the packages thru your distro's package system (but I expect they are preinstalled anyway). It might be an inconvenience on non-GNU systems. We give them low priority, but if you feel like writing code in htmlfontify to do without them, that is ok. I would expect it is not very hard to fix htmlfontify to solve all its practical drawbacks. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Floquet Cc: eliz@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153732850031813 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 03:41:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMx-0008Gx-OV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMw-0008GY-7d for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMq-0005wn-7f for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMk-0005mj-4r; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:26 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2TMj-0007QN-So; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Nicolas Floquet on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:43:42 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:25 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Note that the Org manual still talks about iOS and Android, which are > > not free either. That may or may not be a problem, depending on what it says. Can you show me what it actually says about those nonfree systems? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153734057820469 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 07:02:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WVk-0005K3-9g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:02:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33366) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WVi-0005Jp-49 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:02:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WVZ-0004k2-ME for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:02:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WVZ-0004jm-HU; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:02:45 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2116 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WVT-0008BV-BI; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:02:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:02:39 +0300 Message-Id: <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:07:19 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rjhorniii@gmail.com, n@flqt.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:07:19 +0200 > > I removed htmlize URL from the error message. I also demoted the latter > to a plain message. So, if htmlize is not installed, source blocks are > not fontified. Thanks! There's also a similar reference to htmlize in the Org manual, which should, too, should probably be removed. And I'd like to backport these changes to the emacs-26 branch of the Emacs repository. Would it be possible to apply the changes from Org's master branch, or do we need a slightly different set of changes? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153734070320698 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 07:05:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45056 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WXm-0005Nm-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:05:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34253) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WXk-0005NH-3r for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:05:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WXe-0007Vp-BF for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:04:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WXY-000734-8d; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:04:48 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2237 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2WXP-0008ON-SO; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:04:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:04:40 +0300 Message-Id: <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:49 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, > 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, > kaushal.modi@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:49 -0400 > > > While there are numerous references > > to GitHub and SourceForge in Emacs (and some components even nominally > > live there, by the way, eg CEDET, cc-mode...), it's rare (unique?) for > > running a GNU Emacs command to actually print "hey, go install > > something from this non-ethical repository to finish doing what you > > wanted to do". It's a different level of referencing. > > You've put your finger on the crucial point. > Just talking about something that is in GitHub is ok. > The problem is suggest users get it and run it. If that is the crucial point, then the recent change to Org already took care of that, and there should be no rush to convert Org to using htmlfontify, as this issue is now on the same level as the other references to GitHub. Right? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Klein Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153734177322564 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 07:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 07:22:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45088 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Wp3-0005rr-EZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:22:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Wp1-0005re-Bq for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:22:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Wos-0000Le-4c for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:22:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Wos-0000LX-0Z; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:22:42 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3369 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2Wol-0001Xu-VN; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:22:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:22:36 +0300 Message-Id: <83woridk8z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20180918141427.55178577@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> (message from Robert Klein on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:14:27 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918141427.55178577@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:14:27 +0200 > From: Robert Klein > Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , n@flqt.fr, > kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > > > From my POV, the immediate problem is to switch Org-publish from using > > htmlize to htmlfontify. Can this be done, please? > > Not easily, no. Afaik htmlfontify always creates a complete HTML > document, which htmlize doesn't. Also, htmlize can format parts of a > buffer. which htmlfontify can't. This should be very easy to fix, by using temporary buffers with a copy of the region to produce HTML for. Right? > Additionally htmlfontify also requires several external tools > (according to the man page) which might not be available on all > platform Emacs and org-mode is used on: > > - a copy of “find” which provides the “-path” predicate > - a copy of “sed” > - a copy of the “file” command These are only needed if one invokes htmlfontify-copy-and-link-dir to produce HTML for files in a directory. Is that an important use case for the issue at hand? E.g., if you need to produce HTML for a region of a buffer, these facilities seem to not be relevant, AFAIU. Did I miss something? > A switch to htmlfontify might end up in rewriting a good part of > htmlfontify or some very ugly hacks. I wonder whether we could begin by just supporting the immediate use case(s) in point, maybe that is possible without too much rewriting. > If Hrvoje Niksic has or is willing to sign the copyright assignment > documents it will be easier to put htmlize.el into Emacs. We've been through this several times in the past: it isn't going to happen. I think htmlfontify was added to Emacs for that rteason, among others. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Floquet , eliz@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153736017228814 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 12:29:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45207 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bbk-0007Ua-47 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:29:31 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:60129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2bbi-0007UO-5d for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 08:29:26 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 159744000A; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:29:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:29:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:41:25 -0400") Message-ID: <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Richard Stallman writes: > That may or may not be a problem, depending on what it says. Can you > show me what it actually says about those nonfree systems? All references are related to the appendix about MobileOrg, an application for viewing and capturing entries from a mobile device. Relevant parts include references to Apple and Google products in addition to Dropbox: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- MobileOrg is a companion mobile app that runs on iOS and Android devices. MobileOrg enables offline-views and capture support for an Org mode system that is rooted on a "real" computer. MobileOrg can record changes to existing entries. The [[https://github.com/MobileOrg/][iOS implementation]] for the /iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad/ series of devices, was started by Richard Moreland and is now in the hands of Sean Escriva. Android users should check out [[http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/][MobileOrg Android]] by Matt Jones. Though the two implementations are not identical, they offer similar features. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- MobileOrg needs access to a file directory on a server to interact with Emacs. With a public server, consider encrypting the files. MobileOrg version 1.5 supports encryption for the iPhone. Org also requires =openssl= installed on the local computer. To turn on encryption, set the same password in MobileOrg and in Emacs. Set the password in the variable ~org-mobile-use-encryption~[fn:145]. Note that even after MobileOrg encrypts the file contents, the file name remains visible on the file systems of the local computer, the server, and the mobile device. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- For a server to host files, consider options like [[http://dropbox.com][Dropbox.com]] account[fn:146]. On first connection, MobileOrg creates a directory =MobileOrg= on Dropbox. Pass its location to Emacs through an initialisation file variable as follows: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg") #+end_src --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Here is the footnote from the last excerpt: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [fn:146] An alternative is to use a WebDAV server. MobileOrg documentation has details of WebDAV server configuration. Additional help is at this [[https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mobileorg_webdav][FAQ entry]]. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I think that is about it. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Kaushal Modi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Amin Bandali Cc: Glenn Morris , n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , Nicolas Goaziou , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Horn , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153739183532654 (code B ref 32722); Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2018 21:17:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2jqV-0008Ub-3v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:17:15 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f66.google.com ([209.85.167.66]:39636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2jqS-0008UK-RM for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:17:13 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f66.google.com with SMTP id v77-v6so6428263lfa.6 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=plBlNOyf6mruJt44OC8ys2d+kAbsbAl2ltaD9Rs30fY=; b=sLlZjMnCSpq2sVTQPTjcIJTUYhGrx26/eojBMe5iz+fq1aVhtH/UFbNttN5gDWSTu9 W+UOydc/Jblqq/3co2voCQvOdufVkPXm1iRVmJLupXWvcZD5Q7TG6D4C01yOfSnwbiIS QZqXYru+CduJSfJyh/dt+b8+CLwPiKNX8SNWxdgRXIXaWN/iesfk/sXxwuHSQ1kk8DkP 0KSygNf45+uYuz66Mb/jzzQsPKl6K7emFfRR4YP42XNPv2CS3AfwRIU5oT95SsWQbwn5 ohbpgIWad/KrhtZMMC+x8d7PfETtj6l8FtBjCxf96fsziTTc1ctZoaXgN29nnodc0kzE hfXQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=plBlNOyf6mruJt44OC8ys2d+kAbsbAl2ltaD9Rs30fY=; b=CZmBSsA/5AbObWlPaPocGeA3GPcEVyPKrf49xeZrcL8j9/BQifkjQGqqpMLA6CbGrW B0xl6gE5fR78xTznIHfLTGQkk4PyrYLOy70d3o/sgyRAzf4egxeahTPfTtEv1Li4c9aE SFWCYp914CBGwpr/q3sKhoBLvqAY49m6b+R8LbsHosKdY5zw9tGs13DZGE5doXxczvPm dR86w4r6klAUEF21/zJnEfLqTq/BnRxl/qW0obHhooGlsqXXatDGcC4w4frx5g/MExWL L8k4lUEhycIhl0IOv1vK3GNIKI0BtdBLCQvHE+13XShwY9flGMqFSX77Zr+7/zb5A3i9 gSKw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DSuJknb4ELrS5Fyuf71YnokEzaWyXsG5TcylzGbt/z9mwvaYm+ MVWPFSQLd3RwgrMz0eW0yN9uiVIw7G3i4flqHYg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdbp4apCNsIOcOAF8YXQ0RSZBjveIHxSbyq88Bs5cFE9nDFnhOVQkMgwUcGxQz+lD39fnGXOrrZfn0W26ynlIxI= X-Received: by 2002:a19:7411:: with SMTP id v17-v6mr25343887lfe.49.1537391826640; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:17:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> In-Reply-To: <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> From: Kaushal Modi Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:16:28 -0400 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:24 PM Amin Bandali wrote: > > I set up a mirror: https://code.orgmode.org/aminb/emacs-htmlize > > Assuming code.orgmode.org uses Gogs' default mirror settings, the > repo should be automatically synchronized with upstream roughly > every 8 hours or so. > > This way, we'd still be able to point the users to a concrete > address to get htmlize from, without directly pointing them to a > proprietary platform. Further, we're not claiminig copyright or > maintainership of the repo and we're merely mirroring it on a > freedom-respecting platform along with Org itself. I got approval from Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87 that he was fine with your mirr= or[0]. So I believe it should be OK reference that mirror repo in ox-html? [0]: https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize/issues/23#issuecomment-422946= 622 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374082463357 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 01:50:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7C-0000s5-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60740) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7A-0000ro-Jh for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o74-0006WI-B3 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48923) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o6y-0006Mq-Em; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:32 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o6s-0008PG-JL; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:29:19 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:26 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The crucial question here is whether Mobile.org is free software. If it is not, then GNU packages including their documentation should not mention it at all. See the chapter References in the GNU Coding Standards. What is the source license of Mobile.org? Does Mobile.org for Android link with any nonfree libraries, such as Google Play Library? Is it listed in f-droid.org? I don't think it is possible to have free apps for the iMonsters. This is because iOS does not allow users to install modified versions of apps, even if the app's source is released under a free license. Another issue is the suggestion to use DropBox. Normal use of Dropbox involves running nonfree JS software (see https://gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html), so we cannot recommend using Dropbox in the normal way. If there is a way to use Dropbox (for those operations that are necessary in this context) without running any nonfree client software, it would be ok to recommend using Dropbox _in that way_. (The operations necessary in this context must include creating an account.) However, the text you showed me does not include such a specific recommendation, so we have to eliminate it. We could reinsert the discussion of Dropbox if and when someone writes text to recommend a suitable specific way to use it. > [fn:146] An alternative is to use a WebDAV server. MobileOrg > documentation has details of WebDAV server configuration. Additional > help is at this [[https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mobileorg_webdav][FAQ entry]]. Is this a way to use MobileOrg without Dropbox? Is the WebDAV server code free software? Can you talk to such a server without any nonfree client software? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: n@flqt.fr, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374082703432 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 01:51:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46201 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7Z-0000tI-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:51:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60959) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7Y-0000sr-AS for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:51:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7P-0006xG-3p for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:51:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48934) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o7A-0006fp-6I; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:44 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2o79-0008S6-UV; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:43 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:04:40 +0300) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:43 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > If that is the crucial point, then the recent change to Org already > took care of that, That depends on what the changed text actually says. I have not seen it; would you please send it to me? and there should be no rush to convert Org to using > htmlfontify, as this issue is now on the same level as the other > references to GitHub. Right? I wouldn't assume all those mentions are similar cases. This is a matter of details, and I have not seen them, so I don't know whether they are real problems or not. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kaushal Modi Cc: n@flqt.fr, amin@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374085103817 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 01:55:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2oBS-0000zV-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:55:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35641) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2oBP-0000z7-SG for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:55:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2oBJ-0004ng-L3 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:55:02 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2oAr-00046Y-Sq; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:54:34 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2oAo-0000ao-2k; Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:54:30 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Kaushal Modi on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:16:28 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:54:30 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > This way, we'd still be able to point the users to a concrete > > address to get htmlize from, without directly pointing them to a > > proprietary platform. Further, we're not claiminig copyright or > > maintainership of the repo and we're merely mirroring it on a > > freedom-respecting platform along with Org itself. > I got approval from Hrvoje Nikšić that he was fine with your mirror[0]. > So I believe it should be OK reference that mirror repo in ox-html? No, it is not ok. We still need to replace htmlize. The deep problem with the reference to htmlize is that it blurs the distinction between Emacs itself and Lisp code that is not part of Emacs. We need to highlight that distinction, not blur it. Please leave the code to suggest loading htmlize deactivated. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153741738917889 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 04:23:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46230 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qUe-0004eS-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:23:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60210) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qUd-0004dx-3i for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:23:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qUX-00089h-4C for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:23:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qUQ-0007yJ-Ds; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:22:54 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4339 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qUK-0000oK-4C; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:22:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:22:32 +0300 Message-Id: <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:43 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, > mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:43 -0400 > > > If that is the crucial point, then the recent change to Org already > > took care of that, > > That depends on what the changed text actually says. I have not seen it; > would you please send it to me? There's no changed text: the original message telling from where to install htmlize was deleted. There's now only the error message (which was there before) saying that htmlize is required. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153741752718113 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 04:25:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qWt-0004i5-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:25:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qWr-0004hq-VN for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:25:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qWl-0002rA-TR for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:25:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51224) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qWh-0002jZ-R5; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:25:15 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4477 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2qWb-0000yo-Jj; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:25:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:24:49 +0300 Message-Id: <83k1ngeqy6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:54:30 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:54:30 -0400 > Cc: n@flqt.fr, amin@gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, > rjhorniii@gmail.com > > Please leave the code to suggest loading htmlize deactivated. There's no such code. There's a function that, if invoked, signals an error with this text: "Cannot fontify source block (htmlize.el >= 1.34 required)" From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kaushal Modi Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153742224826757 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 05:44:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46247 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2rl2-0006xV-7o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:44:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2rl0-0006wq-7z for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:44:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2rkp-0003og-Ty for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:43:58 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g2rkg-0003a6-Bl; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:43:46 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1488 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g2rkW-00050Y-Eh; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:43:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:43:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kaushal Modi on Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:16:28 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Kaushal Modi > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:16:28 -0400 > Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , Glenn Morris , n@flqt.fr, > Richard Stallman , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Horn , > Eli Zaretskii > > I got approval from Hrvoje Nikšić that he was fine with your mirror[0]. > > So I believe it should be OK reference that mirror repo in ox-html? I think we could do better by using htmlfontify.el. I asked a few questions about that in this discussion, see https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=32722#95 Would the Org developers please reply to those questions? If indeed it is not hard to adapt htmlfontify to be used by Org, then I think it's a better solution. TIA From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Robert Klein Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, Kaushal Modi Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374312198806 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 08:13:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2u5j-0002Hy-10 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:13:39 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:58867) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2u5h-0002Hl-9b for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:13:37 -0400 Received: from lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de ([194.95.63.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M6EOc-1g9Uja3lIO-006clZ; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:13:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:13:16 +0200 From: Robert Klein Message-ID: <20180920101316.2333b69b@lt70.mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In-Reply-To: <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: roklein.de X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-openbsd6.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:DIkEe9xSSQC7HlPEJH+8YphSoyDmfp2HtxK4DKNfhT2Km/j+LDN RYoBSxmzZ1JzEG+5Vw0X6+qQl+8P0gkgvnShWwyECluDNiK6YcfzTf9z62AB89UOtKqk+cN jueRSsXpBGAWPgBrsi2XA99Ptpn4KZ7cF6hpXqrlGSiaGXmY2VJQNXmkKvuPN9JW5ldPo3v hfGWK/U+RejeqbJ6J93Ww== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ZZ1uA0Ky6aA=:b3XeE76ZWBYTPd5A9o6xuL PRAm13nZ5g0kbhH+pnjdh7AOood7EcFADT6qvZobdUMAlveRrqXQ3YKFTVPaUCwq2NHKg5Mcs hmv/5hGSr0AogCOS8f4RhSadRg1YZ/t8WOmtwiBcN0VcTaZdmw7qr+Aji3cp7/tMEzkxLMNug wW1vM0VaDpKqWPQg4dfsgldsx52fJausgJojWqmOTyM4JexKWcyMOPWAmopPx5lg05lfwrM2U qGzmlcUqzin1ffRSvKYLVpstGgHufHtl9UFDe4jxCIjE5c3MG1cXjemPtGWn2RL8eKxWLdzh1 oZFFA5xpdkZ1wl4gkvsxIrBjkeXedOiBxctJXxCbb+2TIIV0Ejj4Tw8LtM9XW6ps2ibd9RRt2 3WZYd63TWe5B9NQbaZ5AH9b3ku2dPVD7ONtgLMbqLgbPtDrSUzvgsuoD0dxo/hRTnROkYsX8+ 7s01L8hkUXDWlacq3xxRkeB/MyUt/VFTCGo8XzgH1a8xiOxzr7PXqhUx+3v1GvJdkYYmW1VYG XWlZ+ADiQJAjX7vm62whe8+T2AhNGj8lvvi1iSEi5R6Gp/198/sJ9yoNtGkWMtBohcqEkkWTY ga3Kh6X6FLzzElv5Uy6YiJUNA1hX3zjhyVLNxtDn5Z1JnDfKKf127j5s6g7agVyF9YDR4wBXI 3wsEntQx4KmC+Kaqq2UfZMyI0Fwst0rcPdEhiMFM87fHoPZCDBZTLA6wp85VIuXks4OdVSZn/ 3ypWrclUjnFKyckM X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:43:19 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Kaushal Modi > > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:16:28 -0400 > > Cc: Nicolas Goaziou , Glenn Morris > > , n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , > > 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Horn , Eli > > Zaretskii > >=20 > > I got approval from Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87 that he was fine with your > > mirror[0]. > >=20 > > So I believe it should be OK reference that mirror repo in > > ox-html? =20 >=20 > I think we could do better by using htmlfontify.el. I asked a few > questions about that in this discussion, see >=20 > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D32722#95 >=20 > Would the Org developers please reply to those questions? If indeed > it is not hard to adapt htmlfontify to be used by Org, then I think > it's a better solution. Not an =E2=80=9COrg developer=E2=80=9D -- I guess mostly Nicolas Goaziou ca= n claim that title at the moment with two thirds of all commits last year.. As to your questions: > This should be very easy to fix, by using temporary buffers with a > copy of the region to produce HTML for. Right? plus removing HTML document headers and footers, remove css stuff, rework this, so we have css to include in the final document... > > Additionally htmlfontify also requires several external tools > > (according to the man page) which might not be available on all > > platform Emacs and org-mode is used on: > >=20 > > - a copy of =E2=80=9Cfind=E2=80=9D which provides the =E2=80=9C-path=E2= =80=9D predicate > > - a copy of =E2=80=9Csed=E2=80=9D > > - a copy of the =E2=80=9Cfile=E2=80=9D command >=20 > These are only needed if one invokes htmlfontify-copy-and-link-dir to > produce HTML for files in a directory. Is that an important use case > for the issue at hand? E.g., if you need to produce HTML for a region > of a buffer, these facilities seem to not be relevant, AFAIU. Did I > miss something? No. At that moment in the discussion it wasn't clear the issue with htmlize= (and github) has been seen fundamentally different by non-org people as op= posed to people developing and using org-mode. > > A switch to htmlfontify might end up in rewriting a good part of > > htmlfontify or some very ugly hacks. >=20 > I wonder whether we could begin by just supporting the immediate use > case(s) in point, maybe that is possible without too much rewriting. See above. > > If Hrvoje Niksic has or is willing to sign the copyright assignment > > documents it will be easier to put htmlize.el into Emacs. >=20 > We've been through this several times in the past: it isn't going to > happen. I think htmlfontify was added to Emacs for that rteason, > among others. Sorry, didn't know there's a history. Best regards Robert From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Joe Corneli Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153744022523744 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 10:43:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46364 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2wQz-0006Au-In for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 06:43:45 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]:45281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2wQx-0006Ad-9U for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 06:43:43 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id t68-v6so7880558oie.12 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:43:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WNYYckAkRu1AAFQcAmPkiUufLR+Wt2ND+G6hdoN+eV0=; b=nkttix2akjUeD/qrSVDaXe0+Vo4VTmea/YIbK0H8AFwBHVwcO6mvwnsSQ7qlOO0Iof Ux6dDoQ24F47LIFhmkIvsWc3Gli/uz0K5cFO3SaK8SwV7BW5UCjBDU0pC48JQENkg81F 0ceH+wfHW5aQbI+lW9zwQMAbqfRj3rem9mq/xnAfQbRHW2ky+4kZfPM95xsu6AjHFMDE idkfPKWt/kzIPExn1usVU4daJQYhNTZRzVuURQs0ilD0LG0SBFhGwuxem06IZh3/ljB3 VGiH4KhyadHBPwwCqJ0ndqdi7vz8X65YIt3kROtHs/16QyIvILQs/gAlnhAgWO/co5t1 d5Cg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WNYYckAkRu1AAFQcAmPkiUufLR+Wt2ND+G6hdoN+eV0=; b=nLdbOf4mFZ/WUa2TTduDvRBuaVqeu9rIa9kJii+rV3vNTiVl5U8t17Dxl44ukNW4On Qvu23cqArH3xLyjvl/aBFEYxm11tLC00+EzgjoNkEso7hCuPIbzPORzW7a4izGdBuAIk C6hbX/WDsS1L+zs2RjS9zIkSnHZP4UERQov2mCo7Z9Z2Xoq2t3dPHwH/tktL0WE8x9QX QBicLqK4OF4FvQP9IKd0jMwC1fcZN7JmlUJwjKwwE+KKXhWD2/jcDBdkrtkXvOI7pxsB mSmiZZMhXg70lGkMi2hAa2gQRbgiWkPE6ndZINCHOxO1/ANdcCHw+OLBqIafFUmdvLho KYZA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DI5c1iwtXJEWuv+KsNu4DNfBSjZTfZmIUHAlpcbT2A41Y5BbAm MrKagdQxAgGggVHCSrBD9PEvbO8Bg8MhndJw0Og= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYc340FVW09+EbEurV2q0Q2WaIvXQjZTCiRRoMd8AcyiP7cDe8lsiWmOyLKbQJa1jE8gk2Y5Vl7UF9fld1Fov0= X-Received: by 2002:aca:e089:: with SMTP id x131-v6mr1099642oig.221.1537440217657; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:43:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> In-Reply-To: From: Joe Corneli Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:43:25 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:57 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > The deep problem with the reference to htmlize is that it > blurs the distinction between Emacs itself > and Lisp code that is not part of Emacs. > We need to highlight that distinction, not blur it. There are a handful of references to MELPA inside Emacs. Are these to be discouraged? If not, htmlize is on MELPA and could be referenced there. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153744722218374 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 12:40:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2yFq-0004mI-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:40:22 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:59051) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2yFo-0004m7-J4 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:40:21 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88B5C240019; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:40:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:40:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:26 -0400") Message-ID: <87worggx5b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Richard Stallman writes: > What is the source license of Mobile.org? It is GPL2+. > Does Mobile.org for Android link with any nonfree libraries, > such as Google Play Library? No idea. > Is it listed in f-droid.org? Yes, it is. > If there is a way to use Dropbox (for those operations that are > necessary in this context) without running any nonfree client > software, it would be ok to recommend using Dropbox _in that way_. > (The operations necessary in this context must include creating an > account.) I don't know. > Is this a way to use MobileOrg without Dropbox? Yes, it is. MobileOrg just needs to get read/write access to some Org files from anywhere. Dropbox is one way to do that. Any online storage with WebDAV support fits the bill, too. I think Dropbox is being mentioned because it may not be trivial for users to do self-hosting or to find an ethical location for their files. So, here comes the ready-to-use solution. > Is the WebDAV server code free software? At least some implementations are, e.g., Nextcloud, listed in the FSF directory. > Can you talk to such a server without any nonfree client software? I do it with Gnome file manager. There is also an official client for Nextcloud, which is free. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Richard Stallman , 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153745388429422 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 14:31:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2zzI-0007eU-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:31:24 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:39815) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2zzG-0007eG-SI for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:31:23 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([178.20.95.172]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LzcIM-1fgMYb2QuA-014oUe; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:31:07 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87worggx5b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:31:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87worggx5b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:40:16 +0200") Message-ID: <87sh24utp1.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9T0kzslEt+VDRXYwM+SWG7gCgL8RyvNNUbidqYFbqbGNfUxyyY4 k1MeCRfnUDMSg9PaVq6k1CmiA5WGfedETWhJxPMxfVE4v4yRdOOmDmWpMzuQJLG7TGhK8P2 2iZDxucGo8wtedk54YQ5GXmFOKYEh0pQd8mbfw52bL+CihxWXW8GG8gkA8NgCcoOg+lgcI8 FZVsmceinMV29+alVy81A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:r23I4ZQRSDo=:j9oxRwj/TCBM/i8C+19ma5 Vp0EeA6Rma1ipwSdfKGu5aAGG9HFAm0M9RSDrmrKiOEY83Vti6W4f794nZNPooTYjQWbJAAmW qWfi6qjvS9jig7yxIvZrMdMMHlWt9C4th/rwCY/Y62x5iAyA4isMM4Tt/KDRiU/tn2x6v/qeB /fAJ5Nyj1KCl8zm413MLRqEbrCnMJ4EAk8BHlKduU/pPhqMGmLu9Pe/g6Xdf+TEm2SDFMcxXb rCos98EM8QNQfHqFHltVn1wM58lSYDhwP2u86uPLNTxIhqCMrJm2YviDTdU6eidNG/7wi+ilX l9QTZrkuPi42aE9VXUZHKDgboTGGDzXNA4O+kSG9x9ggn6lyy3FAwGRZ7EHvClY1R6p0XQ0eg MxCjus2KGEgmGpT7KTm7eA89W9UmXEfgn7x3tu5HDmwb3J/jgp2rKCnQe+6SfUo/8vwrH/Bvs lFiXAd5uP4qb9LEoyUKj4DVYeT8cmqV7y0LWcAc2fKSid3ReutqDB3uespwZI2Dgupd2iJ4Ix AUk08VEh2h2Qdh5KDvvwknuRygIKODcSXJlW0gJQgvwcngyPLEku6oqee7tqsQCNVEsmI4lwQ JkxhzuFhP72iwqkLa/ovBD38FxePuvS1xy0/JYL5NA8i09SjLMXttwPj+Rpr7+y3upnY3Fjia lV8K6YKC8MiV36Bgo0r4zQRh4G6QtrqfdyfIuhZMsvddux5rKrTKbA6YqaU3z+98Rc1yVUq6v eNfrENeyB601xPH7CtHhZlUXKvwNwHBrke2H+kwtN9pEvZr396MBC1ECjIc3Zdy8itp9yfiA7 zhogclglJ9zntLF/6RfSlKxGwfrFtf5zEv/W42ZO8WvS7fRcBk= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, Hi, >> Is the WebDAV server code free software? > > At least some implementations are, e.g., Nextcloud, listed in the FSF > directory. > >> Can you talk to such a server without any nonfree client software? > > I do it with Gnome file manager. There is also an official client for > Nextcloud, which is free. For the records, Emacs 27.0.50 / Tramp 2.4.1-pre got a nextcloud client for GNU/Linux systems. Like the Gnome File Manager it uses the GVFS library and tools. > Regards, Best regards, Michael. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Bingo UV Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:21:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman , Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: n@flqt.fr, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374568171658 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:21:04 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 15:20:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g30ka-0000Qg-SB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:20:17 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f171.google.com ([209.85.210.171]:46497) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g2yYc-0005Fl-29 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:59:46 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f171.google.com with SMTP id u24-v6so4332242pfn.13 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YVKMTQt6h27RHIXttNnaIbWmMfFCwtNopXqZfj25aJw=; b=hggIRgSlM2qLJ890nvLdjHghzMYmAsqNZsnLJsrSJGR4ySbQDOMctu0+ixui5hBJfN POjbKWRqFIfhTicAgCaFlTyeXZUGCeVMWF5WuVLr+h+/lBkjkDd8+9LYTq6+KBTgRJ5R MrxDJyQWlxMLyIX/b2tazEgNvKvMkNHxIRLZOECken+rIfzLcccoEO4//2kDU57e+TAW RBPD8aN+vXiYD/9CLVdXYnbZ130LVKsRpoi7aByVCUEybjuHgQNAwZ1CqHFuUwspdEkF sysYwpWfw9RB8B8xC7+gBzKTqit/QEZPzwXcpmnEI/PZ9+WcFURP6XSZvsm6aXhbOAYH Potw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YVKMTQt6h27RHIXttNnaIbWmMfFCwtNopXqZfj25aJw=; b=T0NOmbjk4AsmKvnlzJmbZ/qoTBrftRO7VzY2tNMThBgLSSiooVlTbPZYuNmBPQiXJr toJhxUfzbcLcCgVuVCy/tawFle3j4aNfsL+jZpiqvL4nadzUyovsKaqmN3U5MuK/J87g nL1828T53us5ih6IS3XkKM4Kj6qleoTbPY7t//DEjf1yZxwNYOFH7zMURT+d6e6KU4D8 gC8FOpiF/0zuHNnLL+6F8PT+aX/oirfUC6INVC1LyaioeDRxc3BnBzCnw1iq6qLXOvoT hC/M7dmINbVFf3BpwuyVsqgt+p05HSLbqitjyWPE6YAKPbRDe1L777whE4Dx0F3TpUDp kLGA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DgsHEIZ5ywavykjoAXsg5q5eAEG9SY7M745OONtf/3Fh3Sy7qf qiPsxbEsIum+VJHPrI6B4yc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda/Erb4pgSOIKdpAyo32gJjvWxusUPQqtIsod/pK7xCnazgXJMamzPkpmF24DVoIF5JmUPmaA== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5581:: with SMTP id j1-v6mr36388367pgs.203.1537448380050; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([171.61.120.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r1-v6sm53767046pfi.17.2018.09.20.05.59.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 18:29:29 +0530 From: Bingo UV Message-ID: <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:20:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi RMS, Nicolas The concrete software MobileOrg on Android is somewhat of an orphan. It may not revive as itself. But there is also a protocol mobileorg, which the manual alludes to, though does not document directly. That protocol is very much an enabler of software freedom, and it is important for the next MobileOrg to be written. I hope it survives these questions. The protocol can be used to sync 2 sets of org-mode files between 2 emacs instances - without needing the iOS or Android versions of MobileOrg. When fancypants sync systems like dropbox, git, syncthing, rsync etc. are not available, the mobileorg protocol can be used to transfer changes from one place to another. As for the questions : On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:50:26 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: > > What is the source license of Mobile.org? GPLv3 (https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/blob/master/LICENSE.txt) > Is it listed in f-droid.org? It used to be, it has been kicked out of f-droid due to violating policies : including dubious jars. Dropbox API that it was using was surely non-free. > > [fn:146] An alternative is to use a WebDAV server. MobileOrg > > documentation has details of WebDAV server configuration. > > Additional help is at this > > [[https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mobileorg_webdav][FAQ > > entry]]. > > Is this a way to use MobileOrg without Dropbox? > > Is the WebDAV server code free software? Can you talk to such a > server without any nonfree client software? There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in the worg page: 1. SSH 2. Local filesystem Also, since one can write one's own WebDAV server using specs, it doesn't matter if some particular WebDAV servers are free or not. thanks From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153746537715705 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 17:42:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47277 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g32ye-00045F-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:42:56 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:50567) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g32yd-000457-7i for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:42:55 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8F1EFF80B; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:42:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou In-Reply-To: <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:02:39 +0300") References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:42:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: > There's also a similar reference to htmlize in the Org manual, which > should, too, should probably be removed. There are currently four occurrences of "github" in the manual: The [[https://github.com/MobileOrg/][iOS implementation]] for the /iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad/ series of devices, was started by Richard Moreland and is now in the hands of Sean Escriva. Android users should check out [[http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/][MobileOrg Android]] by Matt Jones. For HTML you need to install Hrvoje Niksic's =htmlize.el= from [[https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize][Hrvoje Niksic's repository]]. Fontified code chunks in LaTeX can be achieved using either the listings package or the [[https://github.com/gpoore/minted][minted]] package. Refer to ~org-export-latex-listings~ for details. If you do think that these URL need to be removed, what would you suggest to use instead? > And I'd like to backport these changes to the emacs-26 branch of the > Emacs repository. Would it be possible to apply the changes from > Org's master branch, or do we need a slightly different set of > changes? I do not know about the exact process of merging Org within Emacs. You can probably cherry-pick the changes from Org's master branch. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, Kaushal Modi Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153747107725096 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 19:17:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g34Sb-0006Wi-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:17:57 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:41099) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g34SY-0006Wa-U0 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:17:55 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from saiph (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D637240006; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:17:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:17:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2018 08:43:19 +0300") Message-ID: <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we could do better by using htmlfontify.el. I asked a few > questions about that in this discussion, see > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=32722#95 > > Would the Org developers please reply to those questions? If indeed > it is not hard to adapt htmlfontify to be used by Org, then I think > it's a better solution. I cannot evaluate the difficulty to adapt "ox-html.el" to htmlfontify. I know nothing about either this specific part of the code base or htmlize and I do not use it either. However, I see that "ox-odt.el" already uses htmlfontify, so it might be possible to use a similar mechanism. I assume this is the only way out of this, so I'll have a look at it. But I need time. What would help would be some feedback from users actually tweaking `org-html-htmlize-output-type'. What do they expect from the various values, etc. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374765419628 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 20:49:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g35sf-0002V3-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:49:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g35se-0002Ur-Id for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:48:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g35sV-0000Xs-AV for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:48:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g35sT-0000Vh-CM; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:48:46 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2396 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g35sL-00051L-5E; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:48:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:48:21 +0300 Message-Id: <837ejfevze.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:42:50 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org> <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, n@flqt.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:42:50 +0200 > > > There's also a similar reference to htmlize in the Org manual, which > > should, too, should probably be removed. > > There are currently four occurrences of "github" in the manual: > > The [[https://github.com/MobileOrg/][iOS implementation]] for the > /iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad/ series of devices, was started by Richard > Moreland and is now in the hands of Sean Escriva. Android users > should check out > [[http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/][MobileOrg > Android]] by Matt Jones. > > For HTML you need to install Hrvoje Niksic's =htmlize.el= from > [[https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize][Hrvoje Niksic's > repository]]. > > Fontified code chunks in LaTeX can be achieved using either the > listings package or the [[https://github.com/gpoore/minted][minted]] > package. Refer to ~org-export-latex-listings~ for details. > > If you do think that these URL need to be removed, what would you > suggest to use instead? I spoke only about the URL for htmlize. Is the URL really needed? How long will it take for people to find the package given only its name? Also, I understand it is available from MELPA, in which case mentioning MELPA could be an alternative, if you think you must specify a URL. > > And I'd like to backport these changes to the emacs-26 branch of the > > Emacs repository. Would it be possible to apply the changes from > > Org's master branch, or do we need a slightly different set of > > changes? > > I do not know about the exact process of merging Org within Emacs. You > can probably cherry-pick the changes from Org's master branch. I understand that, I was asking whether the changes need something that doesn't exist in the version of Org on the emacs-26 branch. I understand that the answer is NO. Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15374766639849 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2018 20:51:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g35ug-0002Ym-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:51:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g35uf-0002YK-8f for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:51:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g35uZ-0003Pb-DL for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:50:56 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g35uX-0003MS-Us; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:50:54 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2528 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g35uP-0005E8-Gg; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:50:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:50:30 +0300 Message-Id: <835zyzevvt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:17:51 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: Kaushal Modi , amin@gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:17:51 +0200 > > I assume this is the only way out of this, so I'll have a look at it. Thank you. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Joe Corneli Cc: n@flqt.fr, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153749603916058 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2018 02:13:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3AxC-0004Aw-Mr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3AxB-0004Aj-GM for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Ax5-00015r-EG for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Awz-0000xN-JF; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:45 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Awz-0003j5-9G; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:45 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Joe Corneli on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:43:25 +0100) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:45 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > There are a handful of references to MELPA inside Emacs. Are these to > be discouraged? The question is rather broad, so I can only say "it depends". Whether a reference to software outside Emacs is good or bad depends on its semantics -- that is, on what it says _about_ the software that it references -- and on circumstances. Here's a general answer in terms of rules and circumstances. The first question is, does the references tend to encourage, recommend, or lead users to install and use some outside software? If it doesn't, there isn't an issue. In that case, it would normally be a comment in the code, not a message shown to the Emacs user. If it does tend to lead users to install some program, the next question is, is that program free? If not, it may be a moral problem, but that depends. If the code encourages uses of Emacs by users of widely used nonfree program Foo, that's ok. If the code encourages use of nonfree program Foo by users of Emacs, that's bad, so we should remove the message _and_ the code immediately. If the other program is free, the next question is, should this job be done by part of Emacs, or should it be separate? If logically it should be a separate program, such as find, GCC or LaTeX, then it is fine to encourage Emacs users to install it and for Emacs to invoke it. If logically it should be part of Emacs, we should arrange to do the job with code that IS part of Emacs. We could do that by merging the program into Emacs, or packaging it with Emacs, if those are possible. Or we could do it by writing new code. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bingo UV Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: n@flqt.fr, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153749604716113 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2018 02:14:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3AxL-0004Bp-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:14:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34778) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3AxJ-0004B4-Cs for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:14:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3AxD-0001Ai-5D for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:14:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Ax1-00010k-Sc; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:47 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Ax1-0003ju-M6; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:47 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> (message from Bingo UV on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 18:29:29 +0530) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:13:47 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I asked > > Is the WebDAV server code free software? Can you talk to such a > > server without any nonfree client software? Fortunately, Nicolas Goaziou 's information shows that using WebDAV is no problem. > There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in the > worg page: > 1. SSH > 2. Local filesystem It sounds like modifying Android MobileOrg so it used only those methods plus WebDAV, and not Dropbox, could result in a free program that could be in f-droid. It would be useful for someone to do that and publish it under a different name. Once that gets done, it would be good to make Emacs encourage people to use _that version_ of Android MobileOrg. Until then, Emacs (including Org-mode) should not say or do anything that would be likely to lead users to use the existing MobileOrg. We should remove that text soon, and put in new text about the new version when that new version is available. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: n@flqt.fr, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153749629216537 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2018 02:18:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1H-0004If-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1F-0004IP-Ty for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1A-00042C-0k for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42870) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B16-0003yQ-A1; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:00 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B16-0004U1-2g; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:00 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:22:32 +0300) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:00 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > There's no changed text: the original message telling from where to > install htmlize was deleted. There's now only the error message > (which was there before) saying that htmlize is required. The real problem is that Emacs depends on something that ought to be part of Emacs but isn't. This change makes the problem less blatant, but doesn't really fix it. The change that has been made is good enough temporarily. if people are going to implement replacement code soon, we can leave it this way in the mean time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: eliz@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153749632016585 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2018 02:18:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1h-0004JN-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36416) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1f-0004J8-Ag for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1Z-0004F6-HT for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1U-0004Cy-SI; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:24 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3B1U-0004Zo-JM; Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:24 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:42:50 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org> <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:24 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The [[https://github.com/MobileOrg/][iOS implementation]] for the > /iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad/ series of devices, was started by Richard > Moreland and is now in the hands of Sean Escriva. That should be deleted -- an iOS app is nonfree software. Android users > should check out > [[http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/][MobileOrg > Android]] by Matt Jones. I addressed this at length in another message today. > For HTML you need to install Hrvoje Niksic's =htmlize.el= from > [[https://github.com/hniksic/emacs-htmlize][Hrvoje Niksic's > repository]]. That's been changed; I addressed this issue in another message today. > Fontified code chunks in LaTeX can be achieved using either the > listings package or the [[https://github.com/gpoore/minted][minted]] > package. Refer to ~org-export-latex-listings~ for details. Please verify that that is free software. (I expect that it is.) If it is free, then since it is not something that naturally ought to be part of Emacs, suggesting people get it elsewhere is ok. It would be good to refer to a mirror, not github. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? 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[129.215.90.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4-v6sm17610152wro.47.2018.09.21.03.22.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 03:22:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Joe Corneli In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fri, Sep 21 2018, Richard Stallman wrote: > > There are a handful of references to MELPA inside Emacs. Are these to > > be discouraged? > > The question is rather broad, so I can only say "it depends". Whether > a reference to software outside Emacs is good or bad depends on its > semantics -- that is, on what it says _about_ the software that it > references -- and on circumstances. > > Here's a general answer in terms of rules and circumstances. Thank you for the thorough answer. I've checked, and currently all of the references to MELPA tend to encourage interested users to install outside, free, software. > If logically it should be part of Emacs, we should arrange to do the > job with code that IS part of Emacs. At the moment the only *possible* example for this category that I found among the references to code on MELPA is BBDB -- but I assume that there's a longstanding decision that BBDB is best kept separate. (And back to the main theme it seems clear that what htmlize does should logically be part of Emacs.) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Leslie Watter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: leslie@watter.net Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15375579984921 (code B ref 32722); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2018 19:26:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3R4Y-0001HI-94 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:26:38 -0400 Received: from mail-io1-f45.google.com ([209.85.166.45]:34581) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3Qza-00019P-Ck for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:21:30 -0400 Received: by mail-io1-f45.google.com with SMTP id h16-v6so2938200ioj.1 for <32722@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:21:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HGfWBkNCntVjdOL4FULcs87vZVeFidqVVJc1yI2YPTw=; b=LEx2kM+mZsedRkbTuTIYRXgWHFhFYbQadXD71BLzTiPyNQzDPrYbwqPkCGG5ogK0ak hK9ipwzCNCya0IQOAV35pxcK9xd1nyUdNH6DAkQwEFB+YmYZKnItIW44bH2m4JGj+Qc4 DKZLAs3YKkK/Vp+oYExkUXgvK8E2EO6jdvJoBEkZJvolETIKk/cGPJmT1oapuM6vkzFL 3VdkBJoavzoNdA1AH6sEwREXvPHgwCy8XT7hhxRsGE+2F24k7hkBV4S4nnvUHF2NVmbI U8ZU/pCIzprH0rGdnqko9ZUsTZTEKWtLRdF5nCczMtnu4brXNnha9AlKuUuC4MDkfhd4 8YgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BtwRTFSCLv9qtsjyaG0HWmR5cvN/HlV3D9nkEuM6cINl0feB+j CQdhWO1EjnYRaQXXbOG3mVgKO5EYZOVZumB00Y4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vda9Z/5IAmb91Nay2T4VG+/R71D36RXXjxnbRKxKqPWo614W5eSFF7kwU5SSyFftdkrewpthXHAH5uFd48HJ91w= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:6a19:: with SMTP id x25-v6mr37439596iog.177.1537557684759; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:21:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Leslie Watter Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:21:12 -0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009f30b00576668b39" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:26:36 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --0000000000009f30b00576668b39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello all, Just a little information: since Dropbox update their API to 2.0 MobileOrg with this backend stopped to work, so anyone willing to use it will have to use either WebDAV, SSH or Local filesystem. AFAIK, there's no active development of MobileOrg in terms of having this issue [0] solved. Updating the software could help more than just forking it and publishing it with another name. There's some options (Orgzly, Syncthing) that can be used but none of them are as usefull as MobileOrg. So, if anyone could contact Matthew Jones (https://github.com/matburt) and offer some help I think that could be a better approach than just forking it. Unfortunately I cannot help at this point. Cheers, LEslie [0] - https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/issues/501 On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:17 PM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I asked > > > > Is the WebDAV server code free software? Can you talk to such a > > > server without any nonfree client software? > > Fortunately, Nicolas Goaziou 's information > shows that using WebDAV is no problem. > > > There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in the > > worg page: > > 1. SSH > > 2. Local filesystem > > It sounds like modifying Android MobileOrg so it used only those > methods plus WebDAV, and not Dropbox, could result in a free program > that could be in f-droid. It would be useful for someone to do that > and publish it under a different name. > > Once that gets done, it would be good to make Emacs encourage people to > use _that version_ of Android MobileOrg. > > Until then, Emacs (including Org-mode) should not say or do anything > that would be likely to lead users to use the existing MobileOrg. > We should remove that text soon, and put in new text about the new > version when that new version is available. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) > > > > > > -- Leslie H. Watter --0000000000009f30b00576668b39 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello a= ll,

Just a little informat= ion:=C2=A0 since Dropbox update their API to 2.0
=
MobileOrg with this backend stopped to work, so anyone willing to use = it will have=C2=A0
to use either WebDAV, SSH or Local filesystem.= AFAIK, there's no active development of MobileOrg=C2=A0
in t= erms of having this issue [0] solved.

Updating the= software could help more than just forking it and publishing it with anoth= er name.=C2=A0 There's=C2=A0
some options (Orgzly, Syncthing)= that can be used but none of them are as usefull as MobileOrg.
<= br>
So, if anyone could contact=C2=A0Matthew Jones (https://github.com/matburt) and offer some he= lp=C2=A0
I think that could be a better approach than just forkin= g it. Unfortunately I cannot help at this point.

C= heers,

LEslie

[0] - https://gith= ub.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/issues/501

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:17 PM Richard Stall= man <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
=
[[[ To any NSA and FBI ag= ents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
I asked

=C2=A0 > > Is the WebDAV server code free software?=C2=A0 Can you tal= k to such a
=C2=A0 > > server without any nonfree client software?

Fortunately, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>'s information
shows that using WebDAV is no problem.

=C2=A0 > There are 2 other ways to use Android MobileOrg not included in= the
=C2=A0 > worg page:
=C2=A0 > 1. SSH
=C2=A0 > 2. Local filesystem

It sounds like modifying Android MobileOrg so it used only those
methods plus WebDAV, and not Dropbox, could result in a free program
that could be in f-droid.=C2=A0 It would be useful for someone to do that and publish it under a different name.

Once that gets done, it would be good to make Emacs encourage people to
use _that version_ of Android MobileOrg.

Until then, Emacs (including Org-mode) should not say or do anything
that would be likely to lead users to use the existing MobileOrg.
We should remove that text soon, and put in new text about the new
version when that new version is available.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)







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Leslie H. Watter
--0000000000009f30b00576668b39-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 01:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Joe Corneli Cc: n@flqt.fr, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153758116217990 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 22 Sep 2018 01:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2018 01:52:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3X6A-0004g6-5y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48911) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3X68-0004fs-Hr for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3X62-0003tO-Kn for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:35 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3X5p-0003iq-Il; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:22 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3X5o-0006IY-NQ; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:21 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Joe Corneli on Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:22:49 +0100) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:20 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I've checked, and currently all of the references to MELPA tend to > encourage interested users to install outside, free, software. Could you tell me about these, one by one, off the list? (First, roughly how many are there?) -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 03:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: leslie@watter.net Cc: n@flqt.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15376721753449 (code B ref 32722); Sun, 23 Sep 2018 03:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2018 03:09:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3um7-0000tY-3c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:09:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g3um5-0000t6-Ij for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:09:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3uly-0001nc-00 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:09:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g3ulH-0000wy-GK; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 23:08:43 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g3tLf-0003Es-KN; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:11 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Leslie Watter on Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:21:12 -0300) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:11 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Just a little information: since Dropbox update their API to 2.0 > MobileOrg with this backend stopped to work, so anyone willing to use it > will have > to use either WebDAV, SSH or Local filesystem. AFAIK, there's no active > development of MobileOrg > in terms of having this issue [0] solved. This is actually good news. It means Android MobileOrg is almost ok. If someone wants to do a little work on Android MobileOrg, so it could go into f-droid, we could recommend its use. But the doc should be updated. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rjhorniii@gmail.com Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou , kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153778281222592 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2018 09:53:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4NYY-0005sI-KC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:53:32 -0400 Received: from smtp.numethik.fr ([80.67.190.197]:55152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4NYW-0005s6-KN for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2018 05:53:29 -0400 Message-ID: <8005c4dacdc337b587ce8856bfc193bdffaeb99b.camel@flqt.fr> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1537782807; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=iWY7GbbyA4RMvxO3mewwnJmVFv84uac9BqoGqQUWtLw=; b=r5V/Sy64v8EdC/Vq0mpl2C1O1EbEpL2cAIEWyjrLIHHYK+n3srpHYvDblEXgWTbUBmzFrm UtdBcicH3JVHKBbCu9wEOMRBY2Fau87UAYRBoQsczvLOl5GnSA39lobu1jk+NUHrD0TQev 2Ip5J2Sf8Evy0xUEYRHbU4ax5B29mrC5UwBCnlseHxoiRIVEYpqVt/Io84ipG9jT30xgx5 Ues3tr/CI4x85GpqMbJJwnjKhc5Sp+1MrrnJahdYlZaixVZ81z+vnUh50AgzyZoybFZGnP UiAflmbSPlwZqx2zv/efYG+fbWFwFpXukHEH2zmCW6jW/Pp2QdKK3xqfHwQ2Mg== From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:54:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vGxr/C6h9OIaCQQ16C61" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-vGxr/C6h9OIaCQQ16C61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Le mardi 18 septembre 2018 =C3=A0 12:37 -0400, Robert Horn a =C3=A9crit : > Perhaps you could clarify the ethical issues. I apologise:=20 1. first, to have sent you a badly edited bug report, 2. second, the late sending of this clarification email. This can be explained by * My own difficulty to use the English language (on this point, I have asked a translator friend of mine to translate my words. What you are now reading is the fruit of her work) * The difficulty to convey the issue arisen by GitHub (as a proprietary tool) in the Free Software movement. (This issue has already been brought up for instance in 2010 by B Mako Hill:=20 https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html here translated in French=20 https://framablog.org/2010/09/08/logiciels-libres-mais-outils-non-libres/ ). GitHub, as a platform based on proprietary software is a trap for the developers who use it, particularly because they get into work habits that tie them to one only service provider on the Internet, which is contrary to the very principle of Internet, centre-less network. Yet getting the Internet recentralised would have harmful consequences as much ethically as technically. Therefore, in explaining to its own users to seek some coding on GitHub, or any other non-ethical platform, Emacs "prescribes" the following message to its users: "GitHub? Meh... just some non-open JavaScript" =E2=80=A6 Download on GitHub, code on GitHub! No, don't fuss ov= er it! Incidentally, programmers of free alternatives to GitHub are cool but their work is not very important." =20 Last one more word about those worried by the loss of visibility of their work by having to leave GitHub. May they know that several software forge projects from now on are getting interested in the ActivityPub protocol, which will allow the launching of connected forges into a federation. 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Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Klein Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153791672031936 (code B ref 32722); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2018 23:05:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wON-0008J2-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wOK-0008Il-8N for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wOC-0006Fq-Ab for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wNw-00064x-Qj; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g4wNw-0006ov-H7; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> (message from Robert Klein on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:53:29 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:04:52 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [I sent this message a week ago but did not get a response. Could we get the discussion moving again?] [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > As already pointed out by Nicolas Goaziou, org-mode also requires other > external stuff Those other cases may or may not be problems, depending on the situation. The ability to work with some other free software package (for instance, LaTeX0, if the user happens to use that, is no problem at all. Invoking some separate program, having no particular relationship with Emacs, is ok too if the idea is that that program does some separate job and that's what the user wants to do. However, Emacs should not try to bypass the distro's own package installation system by telling users to install things directly. Would you please show me the other cases where Org suggests loading something else? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: n@flqt.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net, right.ho@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15382327912607 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2018 14:53:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6GcI-0000fw-RK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:53:11 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:32825) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6GcF-0000fk-1E for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:53:08 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBAA640005; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:53:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:53:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Richard Stallman writes: > This is actually good news. It means Android MobileOrg is almost ok. > If someone wants to do a little work on Android MobileOrg, so it could > go into f-droid, we could recommend its use. But the doc should be > updated. For the record, I rewrote the section about Org Mobile in the manual. This removed all instances of "MobileOrg" and "Dropbox". Here it is in its full glory (please ignore the broken links, which refer to other parts in the Org manual): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- =E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94= =81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81= =E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2= =94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81 ORG MOBILE Release 9.2 The Org Mode Developers =E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94= =81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81= =E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81=E2= =94=81=E2=94=81=E2=94=81 Table of Contents =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80 1. Setting up the staging area 2. Pushing to the mobile application 3. Pulling from the mobile application Org Mobile is a protocol for synchronizing Org files between Emacs and other applications, e.g., on mobile devices. It enables offline-views and capture support for an Org mode system that is rooted on a =E2=80=9Crea= l=E2=80=9D computer. The external application can also record changes to existing entries. This appendix describes Org=E2=80=99s support for agenda view formats compa= tible with Org Mobile. It also describes synchronizing changes, such as to notes, between the mobile application and the computer. To change tags and TODO states in the mobile application, first customize the variables `org-todo-keywords' and `org-tag-alist'. These should cover all the important tags and TODO keywords, even if Org files use only some of them. Though the mobile application is expected to support in-buffer settings, it is required to understand TODO states /sets/ (see [BROKEN LINK: *Setting up keywords for individual files]) and /mutually exclusive/ tags (see [BROKEN LINK: *Setting Tags]) only for those set in these variables. 1 Setting up the staging area =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95= =90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90= =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90 The mobile application needs access to a file directory on a server[1] to interact with Emacs. Pass its location through the `org-mobile-directory' variable. If you can mount that directory locally just set the variable to point to that directory: =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 =E2=94=82 (setq org-mobile-directory "~/orgmobile/") =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see [TRAMP User Manual]), `org-mobile-directory' may point to a remote directory accessible through, for example, SSH and SCP: =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 =E2=94=82 (setq org-mobile-directory "/scpc:user@remote.host:org/webdav/") =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 With a public server, consider encrypting the files. Org also requires OpenSSL installed on the local computer. To turn on encryption, set the same password in the mobile application and in Emacs. Set the password in the variable `org-mobile-use-encryption'[2]. Note that even after the mobile application encrypts the file contents, the file name remains visible on the file systems of the local computer, the server, and the mobile device. [TRAMP User Manual] 2 Pushing to the mobile application =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95= =90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90= =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90 The command `org-mobile-push' copies files listed in `org-mobile-files' into the staging area. Files include agenda files (as listed in `org-agenda-files'). Customize `org-mobile-files' to add other files. File names are staged with paths relative to `org-directory', so all files should be inside this directory[3]. Push creates a special Org file `agendas.org' with custom agenda views defined by the user[4]. Finally, Org writes the file `index.org', containing links to other files. The mobile application reads this file first from the server to determine what other files to download for agendas. For faster downloads, it is expected to only read files whose checksums[5] have changed. 3 Pulling from the mobile application =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95= =90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90= =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90 The command `org-mobile-pull' synchronizes changes with the server. More specifically, it first pulls the Org files for viewing. It then appends captured entries and pointers to flagged or changed entries to the file `mobileorg.org' on the server. Org ultimately integrates its data in an inbox file format, through the following steps: 1. Org moves all entries found in `mobileorg.org'[6] and appends them to the file pointed to by the variable `org-mobile-inbox-for-pull'. It should reside neither in the staging area nor on the server. Each captured entry and each editing event is a top-level entry in the inbox file. 2. After moving the entries, Org processes changes to the shared files. Some of them are applied directly and without user interaction. Examples include changes to tags, TODO state, headline and body text. Entries requiring further action are tagged as `FLAGGED'. Org marks entries with problems with an error message in the inbox. They have to be resolved manually. 3. Org generates an agenda view for flagged entries for user intervention to clean up. For notes stored in flagged entries, Org displays them in the echo area when point is on the corresponding agenda item. ? Pressing ? displays the entire flagged note in another window. Org also pushes it to the kill ring. To store flagged note as a normal note, use ? z C-y C-c C-c. Pressing ? twice does these things: first it removes the `FLAGGED' tag; second, it removes the flagged note from the property drawer; third, it signals that manual editing of the flagged entry is now finished. From the agenda dispatcher, ? returns to the view to finish processing flagged entries. Note that these entries may not be the most recent since the mobile application searches files that were last pulled. To get an updated agenda view with changes since the last pull, pull again. Footnotes =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80 [1] For a server to host files, consider using a WebDAV server, such as [Nextcloud] (). Additional help is at this [FAQ entry] (). [2] If Emacs is configured for safe storing of passwords, then configure the variable `org-mobile-encryption-password'; please read the docstring of that variable. [3] Symbolic links in `org-directory' need to have the same name as their targets. [4] While creating the agendas, Org mode forces ID properties on all referenced entries, so that these entries can be uniquely identified if Org Mobile flags them for further action. To avoid setting properties configure the variable `org-mobile-force-id-on-agenda-items' to `nil'. Org mode then relies on outline paths, assuming they are unique. [5] Checksums are stored automatically in the file `checksums.dat'. [6] The file will be empty after this operation. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I also used CTAN URL for the minted LaTeX package. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15382338304380 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2018 15:10:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59057 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Gt3-00018Z-V8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:10:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Gt2-00018L-3R for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:10:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Gst-0004IK-VA for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:10:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50295) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6GsY-00041M-NM; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:09:58 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3910 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g6GsS-0000B6-L3; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:09:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 18:09:40 +0300 Message-Id: <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:53:04 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:53:04 +0200 > Cc: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, leslie@watter.net, right.ho@gmail.com, > kaushal.modi@gmail.com > > > This is actually good news. It means Android MobileOrg is almost ok. > > If someone wants to do a little work on Android MobileOrg, so it could > > go into f-droid, we could recommend its use. But the doc should be > > updated. > > For the record, I rewrote the section about Org Mobile in the manual. > This removed all instances of "MobileOrg" and "Dropbox". Thank you. Can we have this change on the ermacs-26 branch of Emacs, please? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 18:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net, Rasmus , kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153824602223251 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 18:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2018 18:33:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6K3h-00062x-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:33:41 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:41355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6K3g-00062n-6B for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:33:40 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80C6F240005; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 18:33:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:33:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2018 18:09:40 +0300") Message-ID: <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thank you. Can we have this change on the ermacs-26 branch of Emacs, > please? I don't have access to the Emacs repository. You can either give me write access there, or I can send you the Texinfo @node contents, or someone with write access could do it for us. I'm Cc'ing Rasmus for the last option. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net, rasmus@gmx.us, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153824760325612 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2018 19:00:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6KT9-0006eB-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 15:00:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35765) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6KT7-0006dz-My for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:59:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6KT1-0006R0-LE for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:59:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6KSl-0006AS-0a; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:59:35 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3721 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g6KSZ-0007DG-DG; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 14:59:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:58:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:33:35 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, leslie@watter.net, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Rasmus > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:33:35 +0200 > > > Thank you. Can we have this change on the ermacs-26 branch of Emacs, > > please? > > I don't have access to the Emacs repository. > > You can either give me write access there, or I can send you the Texinfo > @node contents, or someone with write access could do it for us. I'm > Cc'ing Rasmus for the last option. I could install a patch that you produced from the Org repository's appropriate branch. Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Kyle Meyer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rasmus@gmx.us, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153826414619644 (code B ref 32722); Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2018 23:35:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Olr-00056S-MY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:45 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]:50411) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Olp-00056G-7s for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:34 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A2734648; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=jvrFX9PE/CAZO6y63Y78UeIwugo=; b=uimN9a mctgCyAK09qlJVzZpxlXvmfS4yfMJVtImYAHY+e3/ssZr37WrALMkQDVB7C39QMT xH6l6ZxhqxZ6OPTpKPf3lL1OkiGSyQBZm1Rr5+b62vFDC9ZlP+nPsuA2E6L6MdQ/ s/JevokDkiMM5lyDuXIdsdbpqcxOdmLYU16KI= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C539734646; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=ifWBG8ODS1XoCTIt5lbXa2j0EvPnqsRb26CQkwBNbM4=; b=QSJ/vDtRClpYnK0cGjEZrw3Usf8NJi8NRnN/w90MqS77ZBiPPHGOWnShmQ8O+c0n7z3WYwzhYFijdQ69pf8Hyz1eqdV5F3T6Ns4Dr+NGfzHf33vOsSTrYO8w/4zgXIZgLnp2bkdEK9OwfeI8RIYuE2tiawQmQhfoPtt5E1jS/8s= Received: from localhost (unknown [73.182.129.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD4B334643; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer In-Reply-To: <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:25 -0400 Message-ID: <87a7nzri6a.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 589ECE5A-C440-11E8-BE8F-CC883AD79A78-24757444!pb-smtp21.pobox.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Nicolas Goaziou >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, leslie@watter.net, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Rasmus >> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:33:35 +0200 >> >> > Thank you. Can we have this change on the ermacs-26 branch of Emacs, >> > please? >> >> I don't have access to the Emacs repository. >> >> You can either give me write access there, or I can send you the Texinfo >> @node contents, or someone with write access could do it for us. I'm >> Cc'ing Rasmus for the last option. > > I could install a patch that you produced from the Org repository's > appropriate branch. > > Thanks. I've tried to combine these org-manual.org changes into a patch for org.texi. This patch should apply on the emacs-26 branch. -- >8 -- Subject: [PATCH] org.texi: Rewrite Org Mobile section * doc/misc/org.texi (Org Mobile): Rewrite from "MobileOrg" section. Remove all references to non-free software. Move into "Miscellaneous". This reflects Nicolas Goaziou's changes from Org's b929e5d77, 46b49ab57, and 3f826b9f7. --- doc/misc/org.texi | 293 ++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------- 1 file changed, 152 insertions(+), 141 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/misc/org.texi b/doc/misc/org.texi index 60647e65e8..873ce4d2cd 100644 --- a/doc/misc/org.texi +++ b/doc/misc/org.texi @@ -325,7 +325,6 @@ Top * Working with source code:: Export, evaluate, and tangle code blocks * Miscellaneous:: All the rest which did not fit elsewhere * Hacking:: How to hack your way around -* MobileOrg:: Viewing and capture on a mobile device * History and acknowledgments:: How Org came into being * GNU Free Documentation License:: The license for this documentation. * Main Index:: An index of Org's concepts and features @@ -760,12 +759,19 @@ Top * TTY keys:: Using Org on a tty * Interaction:: With other Emacs packages * org-crypt:: Encrypting Org files +* Org Mobile:: Viewing and capture on a mobile device Interaction with other packages * Cooperation:: Packages Org cooperates with * Conflicts:: Packages that lead to conflicts +Org Mobile + +* Setting up the staging area:: For the mobile device +* Pushing to the mobile application:: Uploading Org files and agendas +* Pulling from the mobile application:: Integrating captured and flagged items + Hacking * Hooks:: How to reach into Org's internals @@ -788,12 +794,6 @@ Top * Translator functions:: Copy and modify * Radio lists:: Sending and receiving lists -MobileOrg - -* Setting up the staging area:: For the mobile device -* Pushing to MobileOrg:: Uploading Org files and agendas -* Pulling from MobileOrg:: Integrating captured and flagged items - @end detailmenu @end menu @@ -17253,6 +17253,7 @@ Miscellaneous * TTY keys:: Using Org on a tty * Interaction:: With other Emacs packages * org-crypt:: Encrypting Org files +* Org Mobile:: Viewing and capture on a mobile device @end menu @@ -18187,6 +18188,150 @@ org-crypt Excluding the crypt tag from inheritance prevents encrypting previously encrypted text. +@node Org Mobile +@section Org Mobile + +@cindex smartphone + +Org Mobile is a protocol for synchronizing Org files between Emacs and +other applications, e.g., on mobile devices. It enables offline-views +and capture support for an Org mode system that is rooted on a ``real'' +computer. The external application can also record changes to +existing entries. + +This appendix describes Org's support for agenda view formats +compatible with Org Mobile. It also describes synchronizing changes, +such as to notes, between the mobile application and the computer. + +To change tags and TODO states in the mobile application, first +customize the variables @code{org-todo-keywords} and @code{org-tag-alist}. +These should cover all the important tags and TODO keywords, even if +Org files use only some of them. Though the mobile application is +expected to support in-buffer settings, it is required to understand +TODO states @emph{sets} (see @ref{Per-file keywords}) and +@emph{mutually exclusive} tags (see @ref{Setting tags}) only for those set in +these variables. + +@menu +* Setting up the staging area:: For the mobile device +* Pushing to the mobile application:: Uploading Org files and agendas +* Pulling from the mobile application:: Integrating captured and flagged items +@end menu + +@node Setting up the staging area +@subsection Setting up the staging area + +@vindex org-mobile-directory +The mobile application needs access to a file directory on +a server@footnote{For a server to host files, consider using a WebDAV server, +such as @uref{https://nextcloud.com, Nextcloud}. Additional help is at this @uref{https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mobileorg_webdav, FAQ entry}.} to interact with Emacs. Pass its location through +the @code{org-mobile-directory} variable. If you can mount that directory +locally just set the variable to point to that directory: + +@lisp +(setq org-mobile-directory "~/orgmobile/") +@end lisp + +@noindent +Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see @ref{Top,TRAMP User Manual,,tramp,}), +@code{org-mobile-directory} may point to a remote directory accessible +through, for example, SSH and SCP: + +@lisp +(setq org-mobile-directory "/scpc:user@@remote.host:org/webdav/") +@end lisp + +@vindex org-mobile-encryption +With a public server, consider encrypting the files. Org also +requires OpenSSL installed on the local computer. To turn on +encryption, set the same password in the mobile application and in +Emacs. Set the password in the variable +@code{org-mobile-use-encryption}@footnote{If Emacs is configured for safe storing of passwords, then +configure the variable @code{org-mobile-encryption-password}; please read +the docstring of that variable.}. Note that even after the mobile +application encrypts the file contents, the file name remains visible +on the file systems of the local computer, the server, and the mobile +device. + +@node Pushing to the mobile application +@subsection Pushing to the mobile application + +@findex org-mobile-push +@vindex org-mobile-files +The command @code{org-mobile-push} copies files listed in +@code{org-mobile-files} into the staging area. Files include agenda files +(as listed in @code{org-agenda-files}). Customize @code{org-mobile-files} to +add other files. File names are staged with paths relative to +@code{org-directory}, so all files should be inside this directory@footnote{Symbolic links in @code{org-directory} need to have the same name +as their targets.}. + +Push creates a special Org file @samp{agendas.org} with custom agenda views +defined by the user@footnote{While creating the agendas, Org mode forces ID properties on +all referenced entries, so that these entries can be uniquely +identified if Org Mobile flags them for further action. To avoid +setting properties configure the variable +@code{org-mobile-force-id-on-agenda-items} to @code{nil}. Org mode then relies +on outline paths, assuming they are unique.}. + +Finally, Org writes the file @samp{index.org}, containing links to other +files. The mobile application reads this file first from the server +to determine what other files to download for agendas. For faster +downloads, it is expected to only read files whose checksums@footnote{Checksums are stored automatically in the file +@samp{checksums.dat}.} +have changed. + +@node Pulling from the mobile application +@subsection Pulling from the mobile application + +@findex org-mobile-pull +The command @code{org-mobile-pull} synchronizes changes with the server. +More specifically, it first pulls the Org files for viewing. It then +appends captured entries and pointers to flagged or changed entries to +the file @samp{mobileorg.org} on the server. Org ultimately integrates its +data in an inbox file format, through the following steps: + +@enumerate +@item +@vindex org-mobile-inbox-for-pull +Org moves all entries found in @samp{mobileorg.org}@footnote{The file will be empty after this operation.} and appends +them to the file pointed to by the variable +@code{org-mobile-inbox-for-pull}. It should reside neither in the +staging area nor on the server. Each captured entry and each +editing event is a top-level entry in the inbox file. + +@item +@cindex @samp{FLAGGED}, tag +After moving the entries, Org processes changes to the shared +files. Some of them are applied directly and without user +interaction. Examples include changes to tags, TODO state, +headline and body text. Entries requiring further action are +tagged as @samp{FLAGGED}. Org marks entries with problems with an error +message in the inbox. They have to be resolved manually. + +@item +Org generates an agenda view for flagged entries for user +intervention to clean up. For notes stored in flagged entries, Org +displays them in the echo area when point is on the corresponding +agenda item. + +@table @asis +@item @kbd{?} +Pressing @kbd{?} displays the entire flagged note in +another window. Org also pushes it to the kill ring. To +store flagged note as a normal note, use @kbd{? z C-y C-c C-c}. Pressing @kbd{?} twice does these things: first +it removes the @samp{FLAGGED} tag; second, it removes the flagged +note from the property drawer; third, it signals that manual +editing of the flagged entry is now finished. +@end table +@end enumerate + +@kindex ? @r{(Agenda dispatcher)} +From the agenda dispatcher, @kbd{?} returns to the view to finish +processing flagged entries. Note that these entries may not be the +most recent since the mobile application searches files that were last +pulled. To get an updated agenda view with changes since the last +pull, pull again. + @node Hacking @appendix Hacking @cindex hacking @@ -19151,140 +19296,6 @@ Using the mapping API (length (org-map-entries t "/+WAITING" 'agenda)) @end lisp -@node MobileOrg -@appendix MobileOrg -@cindex iPhone -@cindex MobileOrg - -MobileOrg is a companion mobile app that runs on iOS and Android devices. -MobileOrg enables offline-views and capture support for an Org mode system -that is rooted on a ``real'' computer. MobileOrg can record changes to -existing entries. - -The @uref{https://github.com/MobileOrg/, iOS implementation} for the -@emph{iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad} series of devices, was started by Richard -Moreland and is now in the hands Sean Escriva. Android users should check -out @uref{http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/, MobileOrg -Android} by Matt Jones. Though the two implementations are not identical, -they offer similar features. - -This appendix describes Org's support for agenda view formats compatible with -MobileOrg. It also describes synchronizing changes, such as to notes, -between MobileOrg and the computer. - -To change tags and TODO states in MobileOrg, first customize the variables -@code{org-todo-keywords} and @code{org-tag-alist}. These should cover all -the important tags and TODO keywords, even if Org files use only some of -them. Though MobileOrg has in-buffer settings, it understands TODO states -@emph{sets} (@pxref{Per-file keywords}) and @emph{mutually exclusive} tags -(@pxref{Setting tags}) only for those set in these variables. - -@menu -* Setting up the staging area:: For the mobile device -* Pushing to MobileOrg:: Uploading Org files and agendas -* Pulling from MobileOrg:: Integrating captured and flagged items -@end menu - -@node Setting up the staging area -@section Setting up the staging area - -MobileOrg needs access to a file directory on a server to interact with -Emacs. With a public server, consider encrypting the files. MobileOrg -version 1.5 supports encryption for the iPhone. Org also requires -@file{openssl} installed on the local computer. To turn on encryption, set -the same password in MobileOrg and in Emacs. Set the password in the -variable @code{org-mobile-use-encryption}@footnote{If Emacs is configured for -safe storing of passwords, then configure the variable, -@code{org-mobile-encryption-password}; please read the docstring of that -variable.}. Note that even after MobileOrg encrypts the file contents, the -file names will remain visible on the file systems of the local computer, the -server, and the mobile device. - -For a server to host files, consider options like -@uref{http://dropbox.com,Dropbox.com} account@footnote{An alternative is to -use webdav server. MobileOrg documentation has details of webdav server -configuration. Additional help is at -@uref{https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mobileorg_webdav, FAQ entry}.}. -On first connection, MobileOrg creates a directory @file{MobileOrg/} on -Dropbox. Pass its location to Emacs through an init file variable as -follows: - -@lisp -(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/MobileOrg") -@end lisp - -Org copies files to the above directory for MobileOrg. Org also uses the -same directory for sharing notes between Org and MobileOrg. - -@node Pushing to MobileOrg -@section Pushing to MobileOrg - -Org pushes files listed in @code{org-mobile-files} to -@code{org-mobile-directory}. Files include agenda files (as listed in -@code{org-agenda-files}). Customize @code{org-mobile-files} to add other -files. File names will be staged with paths relative to -@code{org-directory}, so all files should be inside this -directory@footnote{Symbolic links in @code{org-directory} should have the -same name as their targets.}. - -Push creates a special Org file @file{agendas.org} with custom agenda views -defined by the user@footnote{While creating the agendas, Org mode will force -ID properties on all referenced entries, so that these entries can be -uniquely identified if MobileOrg flags them for further action. To avoid -setting properties configure the variable -@code{org-mobile-force-id-on-agenda-items} to @code{nil}. Org mode will then -rely on outline paths, assuming they are unique.}. - -Org writes the file @file{index.org}, containing links to other files. -MobileOrg reads this file first from the server to determine what other files -to download for agendas. For faster downloads, MobileOrg will read only -those files whose checksums@footnote{Checksums are stored automatically in -the file @file{checksums.dat}.} have changed. - -@node Pulling from MobileOrg -@section Pulling from MobileOrg - -When MobileOrg synchronizes with the server, it pulls the Org files for -viewing. It then appends to the file @file{mobileorg.org} on the server the -captured entries, pointers to flagged and changed entries. Org integrates -its data in an inbox file format. - -@enumerate -@item -Org moves all entries found in -@file{mobileorg.org}@footnote{@file{mobileorg.org} will be empty after this -operation.} and appends them to the file pointed to by the variable -@code{org-mobile-inbox-for-pull}. Each captured entry and each editing event -is a top-level entry in the inbox file. -@item -After moving the entries, Org attempts changes to MobileOrg. Some changes -are applied directly and without user interaction. Examples include changes -to tags, TODO state, headline and body text. Entries for further action are -tagged as @code{:FLAGGED:}. Org marks entries with problems with an error -message in the inbox. They have to be resolved manually. -@item -Org generates an agenda view for flagged entries for user intervention to -clean up. For notes stored in flagged entries, MobileOrg displays them in -the echo area when the cursor is on the corresponding agenda item. - -@table @kbd -@kindex ? -@item ? -Pressing @kbd{?} displays the entire flagged note in another window. Org -also pushes it to the kill ring. To store flagged note as a normal note, use -@kbd{? z C-y C-c C-c}. Pressing @kbd{?} twice does these things: first it -removes the @code{:FLAGGED:} tag; second, it removes the flagged note from -the property drawer; third, it signals that manual editing of the flagged -entry is now finished. -@end table -@end enumerate - -@kindex C-c a ? -@kbd{C-c a ?} returns to the agenda view to finish processing flagged -entries. Note that these entries may not be the most recent since MobileOrg -searches files that were last pulled. To get an updated agenda view with -changes since the last pull, pull again. - @node History and acknowledgments @appendix History and acknowledgments @cindex acknowledgments -- 2.19.0 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 09:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , right.ho@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153829969911809 (code B ref 32722); Sun, 30 Sep 2018 09:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2018 09:28:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Y1S-00034P-S3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 05:28:19 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:36553) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6Y1R-000347-6I for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 05:28:17 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([213.220.156.190]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWwp6-1gC84p32lY-00W1zn; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:27:59 +0200 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([213.220.156.190]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWwp6-1gC84p32lY-00W1zn; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:27:59 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:27:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:53:04 +0200") Message-ID: <87wor3e3mr.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hj6U70NCfaF4KtlGwY5wvA905fM/AIRhiyW79U+juMB5DIskUq+ +t7GedKikmZezGXge3FkwPMeHbUjukNTMrblH+xjrktPK4ToBbXYKnjwzQeh+jA+5dm3pWq hq1QILzzsxYpPt5hSyU867SmY67QYmNdqm9hk7f0RUqfgYCNIBbvNKHSuRPb5FHjos+E6Oy CQ5pYuzKdmb4oXiOw5jjA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pbXsQKMZOLg=:WPhAzjD3ci/86Za+xolYJd bVgkMDSkrdKJlq+FL6YjdMnAERl7yYD85llKPPjqgWvyVMApq+KIrqU4p8DIQUGccwDgpOkXF A/t3ZKDPKwgegc8dqacczE4DqFhA4UGArDYjGOFsRMSTe5TKjfj7v9nlXLMxEadywyeT9ahRT XGgF3fphaJoQBeEq+5R9hljtSzoxbtYA16tUvpc78SFdwkIK4OzEiM3UP5srobNeh47Y2UmOo 7JYDMoXA6iVZO7nY9P9uxDqCrdYIn+zKNIa4UoX1I0M3E5ebVeVCaXSEAnzPiSmbNTuYCVWt6 hdOM3I0MmrFwArKG11jTzJw+j4L9N1HhtSWk5xmlD2ZY0k8BNli5usRiCRtoZUwT34lhDKbUb auGoX9uW3WX8JqlE3x5dhwuAaxFKFIabg3LKQiNRAwSdXK5UhlyRVsrixLY7sRY6ZQx9nRB7K iTkZ2dXur46QsQB1tHQuE1yCooWbEE+zNgeuXEXRU7Z7T9VbsoQMbMkGKLmz1TDOU6/fRlsPi J+G6zWzWW8OAmVBAVc7aMKVyjOnN5bCKddAzIgD+++cyK/Xlm9hB0mDY2YEi9pBemP6ljgRsB abn/DMwGSowysVTaZxQVWcpTXeYwzRisVRT3Ndf8bRGk3IcSOUEFVkF/0RTbxrwd54tHx7cLG QyE8U6DKYdLLnEHbuCDddYTGFuA6B6JrEHr3c+TbkVDju7R8UpZjg3df1VJzW/LSoXUesYrhh 3ovJs6A8D9hSLMlYC4zG7ahGaM8rY3z5a0YfEIvNJdqIFPkw7Kfo1viuVusKlmBI7zcB+fW9O QmRC1Xp/EJShMpNOZ3DBCLIkv0q/vNP6NWt6e4YtIsVaSY2bis= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, Hi Nicolas, > 1 Setting up the staging area > =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90= =E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2= =95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95= =90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90=E2=95=90 > > The mobile application needs access to a file directory on a server[1] > > Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see [TRAMP User Manual]), > `org-mobile-directory' may point to a remote directory accessible > through, for example, SSH and SCP: > > =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 > =E2=94=82 (setq org-mobile-directory "/scpc:user@remote.host:org/webdav= /") > =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 > > [1] For a server to host files, consider using a WebDAV server, such > as [Nextcloud] (). Not every WebDAV server will support an ssh connection. On GNU/Linux systems, Tramp supports also the connection methods "dav", "davs", and "nextcloud" (this one since Emacs 27). Maybe it is worth to mention this. > Regards, Best regards, Michael. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kyle Meyer Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, rasmus@gmx.us, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.153830785932574 (code B ref 32722); Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2018 11:44:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6a8z-0008TD-UU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:44:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6a8y-0008T0-W6 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:44:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6a8q-0004b4-4u for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:44:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35531) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6a8q-0004ai-12; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:44:04 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2439 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g6a8j-0004r5-Jm; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 07:43:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:43:47 +0300 Message-Id: <83y3bj43d8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87a7nzri6a.fsf@kyleam.com> (message from Kyle Meyer on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:25 -0400) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7nzri6a.fsf@kyleam.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Kyle Meyer > Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, rasmus@gmx.us, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:35:25 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Nicolas Goaziou > >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, leslie@watter.net, right.ho@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Rasmus > >> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:33:35 +0200 > >> > >> > Thank you. Can we have this change on the ermacs-26 branch of Emacs, > >> > please? > >> > >> I don't have access to the Emacs repository. > >> > >> You can either give me write access there, or I can send you the Texinfo > >> @node contents, or someone with write access could do it for us. I'm > >> Cc'ing Rasmus for the last option. > > > > I could install a patch that you produced from the Org repository's > > appropriate branch. > > > > Thanks. > > I've tried to combine these org-manual.org changes into a patch for > org.texi. This patch should apply on the emacs-26 branch. Thanks, pushed. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , right.ho@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.154020117930494 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2018 09:39:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEWgV-0007vm-0e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:39:39 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:60651) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEWgT-0007ve-Fa for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:39:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 095FC240019; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:39:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wor3e3mr.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:39:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wor3e3mr.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:27:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87r2giz5ey.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Michael Albinus writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see [TRAMP User Manual]), >> `org-mobile-directory' may point to a remote directory accessible >> through, for example, SSH and SCP: >> >> =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 >> =E2=94=82 (setq org-mobile-directory "/scpc:user@remote.host:org/webda= v/") >> =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 >> >> [1] For a server to host files, consider using a WebDAV server, such >> as [Nextcloud] (). > > Not every WebDAV server will support an ssh connection. On GNU/Linux > systems, Tramp supports also the connection methods "dav", "davs", and > "nextcloud" (this one since Emacs 27). Maybe it is worth to mention > this. Sure. How about this? Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see [TRAMP User Manual]), `org-mobile-directory' may point to a remote directory accessible through, for example, SSH, SCP, or DAVS: (setq org-mobile-directory "/davs:/user@remote.host:org/webdav/") Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , right.ho@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15402064746890 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2018 11:07:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEY3u-0001n4-0I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:07:54 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:48981) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEY3p-0001mk-QK for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:07:51 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([213.220.151.207]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdEsh-1fxI1I2iVX-00IYNj; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:07:31 +0200 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([213.220.151.207]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdEsh-1fxI1I2iVX-00IYNj; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:07:31 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wor3e3mr.fsf@gmx.de> <87r2giz5ey.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:07:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r2giz5ey.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:39:33 +0200") Message-ID: <871s8is0i6.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EC2izNYfjZthc8Qm3K37m4zDKoHQ/ETX1TSMXHCT+M/h0qD94ak TdcjjiuU6RvbNY/nk1eJb7Tr+pzIxv/v9Z9mfV5v66Uu3owmdVr64OQaXFWWCyJlObxr/oT l7dlByX7ubsgtSxPxVDfgbOEqVnW7Fd4fwXmfDIBf6MsnVJ5Lz8+8WwwOLX2wP2+w99SrR9 7OCIJZ2WR4dHcug4Y43lg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Yar4QsLMzfA=:iCMS3GoiOFrcnOH2XykwM0 /WU8kt8GyAPEVozIP17jizy5j05GQ4dL2vwrAao+Ba2CHEbMlR0XjLIW1qnKRUHmSzCx6S5UL xgiZQ0i6+terY2ObWMQ/bFhjOKlwakKjCNBhwlFfnrtAp5jxynnqcYEroED7KS8bMXltZ8qHe vHVmRj/7DzoOtJwQKvKIR+XsWzjjCq7BuPcQjNFCHl+dbrdvwYa2vu4rByBmfmbvZ06Nex2No 7lHngaThmFhG2XRx9Ht7d8g5n5AcvJFqqj1N1zlxzZ/2EUqpLJ726D2gJde2HYCk12i1NXkVR ibttTuO4O6d1ReFm7tuGNH419C47AcEs0ard0s7hBGHsqLM3CNcgh3TQophNSIwvGAkHpUfSC ApNLw3TrDA4RLrI7l+hzFsHniDWNTHEKp+o1DWdt0QtXFu8MYUiJ0TMNPGl7i8bSkN4zNZZ8m 1N6rbjpH+JAohKv6/sRtWm2nCjf+m2qSmGUXAPiFeYqb9kVU57ICURcLXUDNPy0/K8bWlDWrb t7O7vSHo3P1rlb/y6K+XRdwhqGS9nEXGLkt1WrxGF9SZBgLgk8ZNPCd27fXPoc2y823bsQ0/g ENK9xgmm/DU2MPoP0tOqaLgks7qCNtMGe9D5FQKF0XCbVr3BAieZRy4KKZEwLTGPSeF/ApC73 BaWC7Qb6MblrKiBxWFEs2u0If+yyMqj+ZWckZ4+lYuiX9hCxjRpujpEMwTtUxZUEZ2YbEDpF8 5nDtxigBeRTIQdEJlgKpXflRq5BOGIUVUtG5+iQfgh5+hy9IZnk9ClRl8PXJUcztoUz5PHYp0 B7heBSWpW18+uD+Gj4n8rWWS8F3CT2LPCB/NV4gSARvg821Dbo= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, Hi Nicolas, > Alternatively, by using TRAMP (see [TRAMP User Manual]), > `org-mobile-directory' may point to a remote directory accessible > through, for example, SSH, SCP, or DAVS: > > (setq org-mobile-directory "/davs:/user@remote.host:org/webdav/") Pls use (setq org-mobile-directory "/davs:user@remote.host.org:/webdav/") Otherwise, LGTM. > Regards, Best regards, Michael. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.154021402526304 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2018 13:13:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEa1g-0006qB-Gz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:13:44 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:54067) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEa1e-0006q3-Tw for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:13:43 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C402060004; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:13:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <835zyzevvt.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:13:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835zyzevvt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:50:30 +0300") Message-ID: <87d0s2yvi4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hello, Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Nicolas Goaziou >> I assume this is the only way out of this, so I'll have a look at it. > > Thank you. In an attempt to move Org from htmlize to htmlfontify, I'm encountering an issue with the generated CSS. Exporting the same simple document with htmlize, I get: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Then, with htmlfontify: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Some users reported that htmlfontify output is too verbose (font-style, font-family, font-size...). Is there a way to clean up the output from htmlfontify and include only minimal information? It might be something related to `hfy-default-face-def', but the documentation is not clear to me. Thank you for any help. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: n@flqt.fr, Richard Stallman , right.ho@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, leslie@watter.net Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.154021425726717 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2018 13:17:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35221 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEa5R-0006wr-IX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:17:37 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:53685) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEa5O-0006wh-WB for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:17:35 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A72BE001C; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:17:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wor3e3mr.fsf@gmx.de> <87r2giz5ey.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <871s8is0i6.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871s8is0i6.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:07:29 +0200") Message-ID: <878t2qyvbo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Pls use (setq org-mobile-directory "/davs:user@remote.host.org:/webdav/") > Otherwise, LGTM. Done. Thank you. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Goaziou , Vivek Dasmohapatra Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.154021618429519 (code B ref 32722); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2018 13:49:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEaaW-0007g3-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:49:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEaaV-0007fs-P7 for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:49:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEaaP-0003df-Jl for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:49:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEaZv-0003Od-EU; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:49:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1652 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gEaZp-0004zj-2X; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:49:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:48:46 +0300 Message-Id: <83a7n6t7lt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87d0s2yvi4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (message from Nicolas Goaziou on Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:13:39 +0200) References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <874leme9vp.fsf@aminb.org> <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org> <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <835zyzevvt.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0s2yvi4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Nicolas Goaziou > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, amin@gnu.org, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:13:39 +0200 > > Some users reported that htmlfontify output is too verbose (font-style, > font-family, font-size...). > > Is there a way to clean up the output from htmlfontify and include only > minimal information? It might be something related to > `hfy-default-face-def', but the documentation is not clear to me. I have no idea. CC'ing the author in the hope that he does. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Cc: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15580197754476 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 16 May 2019 15:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2019 15:16:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56084 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRI7D-0001A7-F3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from numethik.fr ([80.67.190.202]:36180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRI78-00019t-HA for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 11:16:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1558019764; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1b1T4fjh/judUa0v+SsT5k/6QAcYbXwqiPTEhNownjo=; b=iuYnnvyqobFBTuJ7p+AQXbELSB+gC5oI7kPvVh5DWUF8QXr5qF4QyMmLD0wi5UP1QceTMO 7Z6McmCw8ztjZC4Y3ipH5T3VhF6j5M9HbH1jNFjsv4KBa40J23dWdQikql6a0OdKRCtcxy z3a+rqmnPevSDvPCkzcaZ4HUJo/m1pg= Message-ID: From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:16:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-GMTXIvNjvXt8Ze4CbrHE" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-GMTXIvNjvXt8Ze4CbrHE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. Le jeudi 20 septembre 2018 =C3=A0 22:18 -0400, Richard Stallman a =C3=A9cri= t : > The real problem is that Emacs depends on something that ought to be > part of Emacs but isn't. This change makes the problem less blatant, > but doesn't really fix it. >=20 > The change that has been made is good enough temporarily. =20 > if people are going to implement replacement code soon, > we can leave it this way in the mean time. >=20 The problem is not solved on emacs 26.2. $ git clone https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git $ cd org-mode $ grep github ./lisp/*el ./lisp/ob-clojure.el:;; For Cider, see https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cid= er * ./lisp/ob-groovy.el:;;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0https://github.com/russel/Emacs-= Groovy-Mode ./lisp/ob-io.el:;; https://github.com/stevedekorte/io/blob/master/extras/S= yntaxHighlighters/Emacs/io-mode.el ./lisp/ob-js.el:;; or mozrepl http://wiki.github.com/bard/mozrepl/ ./lisp/ob-js.el:;; http://wiki.github.com/bard/mozrepl/emacs-integration = for ./lisp/ob-lisp.el:;; - https://github.com/capitaomorte/sly ./lisp/ob-lua.el:;; https://github.com/immerrr/lua-mode ./lisp/ob-processing.el:;; - processing2-emacs mode :: https://github.com/p= trv/processing2-emacs ./lisp/ob-ruby.el:;; http://github.com/eschulte/rinari/raw/master/util/ru= by-mode.el ./lisp/ob-ruby.el:;; http://github.com/eschulte/rinari/raw/master/util/in= f-ruby.el ./lisp/ob-sass.el:;; - sass-mode :: http://github.com/nex3/haml/blob/master= /extra/sass-mode.el ./lisp/ob-shen.el:;; https://github.com/eschulte/shen-mode Thank you for all the work done. --=20 Nicolas Floquet 06.32.93.03.51 http://syntax61.fr/ https://deontobox.org/ http://www.pharmanerd.flqt.fr/ https://forum.normandie-libre.fr/ --=-GMTXIvNjvXt8Ze4CbrHE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEElMdkG3GesGr0BnqzNwnHAOVI+ZYFAlzdfrIACgkQNwnHAOVI +ZbR0hAApPMIFcLdyigybLKazP2NYQxBnI87UN+k9SRoxtKmPTPrJHP3svS6khbe V7zlMO1Du3nzi4ZhWQYDabB+9eezfVPb8oj6fXMaX9Oi1236xrAG/oYw0oGbl79Q zWe/nnb6vQ+wRL09JjzJpjR3PwzEFFrEx+wvhvaIBgEifbO2qFTitOxRBiUaDKNo N4mkqfDyTZrnTLugGjmgnghZJG2Zeu+220RGOyq/CoCF3NhKQxGJ6YHUMGwzIiIm 8Jh9R0vJqz59nkWYXFGh2f5FxKNX95QrdmT/GpRADeMeLjUofrmMJDlF/y6sQpef jhc5p3IU8q/8w56LvoJOxSupb/kEntG9EjjgEcB+XAQlO8ezrAuwO1WaU2d9oXlo ZZkm97klHtbN0yo54VQ/k05CfmNqJs4PztP2QqhE7lg5FrRsp7lCN91DnfcOfzHe UPytuv70qW4fwoToBBmayO1DdjM2XbJMhG+VNA+8i2FziRn6hByDhCc0Y2Q+5iSu rgtovt00BVUmlAh/AAqIMCKB2bO0LUzkmnCeiYIURT86Nzmj3RyfUQztBaqxBq+k ovRGwb4hkM7ee0esVl4B+vdXfffaBLQ7O/bFZZdlXD/5jQbNuYExEfx+rDhiSp9y 5x3tySUByD5ykQ2/kLlIWbpHpbthvEPbpNAiIQIVXwUhC8Gtm4c= =2c1q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-GMTXIvNjvXt8Ze4CbrHE-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Nicolas Floquet Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Cc: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, kaushal.modi@gmail.com Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.15580203535414 (code B ref 32722); Thu, 16 May 2019 15:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2019 15:25:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRIGW-0001PG-In for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 11:25:52 -0400 Received: from numethik.fr ([80.67.190.202]:36426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hRIGU-0001P0-FH for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 11:25:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1558020343; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=45wfLqujrI+FTQ1qkbcWCfAbfzy84uzn02rUdqSUBsU=; b=L+dMxEc+l7h3B+ELZAIqeskPOOJS2DaCx/izQJR63wkPEm85bpDR+DU1XWPHVlU0waObq+ +d08jGVJ4odFAWEndjKLm8LCb93vCnFSYYsQ89+cR2yvmGXV8Ses4KaJGAR7GEtbLTPUKA VopPiV4aA6pPvq0Eg8oQedU3y2r5oQw= Message-ID: <3554abc2df1167f5b052b021670bbd09fae6dd6f.camel@flqt.fr> From: Nicolas Floquet Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:25:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/h8QPuoWc/j3NNA0n+tD" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-/h8QPuoWc/j3NNA0n+tD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeudi 16 mai 2019 =C3=A0 17:16 +0200, Nicolas Floquet a =C3=A9crit : > The problem is not solved on emacs 26.2. I have just humbly made a little commit wich is not the best solution, take in consideration that I am not a programmer=E2=80=A6 I can not current= ly do better ! :-) https://code.orgmode.org/nflqt/org-mode/commit/11206b40781b9f04912cb1c538a6= b936c8dadc21 > Thank you for all the work done. Again. --=20 Nicolas Floquet 06.32.93.03.51 http://syntax61.fr/ https://deontobox.org/ http://www.pharmanerd.flqt.fr/ https://forum.normandie-libre.fr/ --=-/h8QPuoWc/j3NNA0n+tD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEElMdkG3GesGr0BnqzNwnHAOVI+ZYFAlzdgPUACgkQNwnHAOVI +ZYJZg/9EnOWUJOaugA8KjisslMowocHTosZcJGQtgpgrlXoRlSSLxTEmzg7Q49X Bqmdn5JexnuLc7EpgL/4MjUq50p/Ak4koFeWBzHcy+2VBq9UqgLx6zX3CLPcuutj KszyDgWkITfGQXKs1iv+XDrrhxS79v2i24JWsl4NnzztPkUR0ZC4i7xr/tPFON7h rKHc/c2OZGDjWoYr8Vqjo44E1fLxWoLTnN3Cbso4D/ydKQJINGtve/JL5Km8SPJU wMZk1S0PU0ElBDk4lqrSKZBe8pT8ZzuxqjHf6XluhFpQ0etdhMxDJkdrAzQi3dbB /A1YgGPjoKPNIJ/I1hxpVelMxqn/LXUlyEJvxxkjwy3Yy9heqNtq8nR8bNnHWKMi oiuTnAipyQdIOINGqiVkE4gVSCdN16vfZy2CJaFuqUh8021DL+3RGmAak7eqnypF II4jJoc6STjW7Ox4DrvgJdH+b860BOp4WKgWxLafmD08VpZGjWua+1bY51OV5UNI WnfowD5bv3ay0MVnNFa2tc7gsFG2SzHeHgNFY7/Qg/raMwg31mhmvqYy2Sl+4LpD NmeYJjsBIAbW/p9SE2tPwPI1B2TXRByvt1MCYHe2mW2ZnggokcZ/dW9jS9uffDX9 3/Ri/eETDUBEqqrvjzl9RXlk/WoAlo0GyerdGYKG6d9CXmUclvI= =DVxv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/h8QPuoWc/j3NNA0n+tD-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Resent-From: Amin Bandali Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2019 16:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32722 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Nicolas Floquet Cc: rms@gnu.org, rjhorniii@gmail.com, 32722@debbugs.gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 32722-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32722.156009926222255 (code B ref 32722); Sun, 09 Jun 2019 16:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 32722) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2019 16:54:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ha15K-0005mt-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:54:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ha15H-0005mf-Pi for 32722@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:54:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33786) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ha159-0001ft-Mn; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:54:13 -0400 Received: from [2607:fea8:3b80:184::c] (port=34420 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ha150-0008PL-PE; Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:54:03 -0400 From: Amin Bandali References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org> <3554abc2df1167f5b052b021670bbd09fae6dd6f.camel@flqt.fr> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:54:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3554abc2df1167f5b052b021670bbd09fae6dd6f.camel@flqt.fr> Message-ID: <87ef42wvh3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Nicolas Floquet writes: > Le jeudi 16 mai 2019 =C3=A0 17:16 +0200, Nicolas Floquet a =C3=A9crit : >> The problem is not solved on emacs 26.2. > > I have just humbly made a little commit wich is not the best solution, > take in consideration that I am not a programmer=E2=80=A6 I can not curre= ntly > do better ! :-) > https://code.orgmode.org/nflqt/org-mode/commit/11206b40781b9f04912cb1c538= a6b936c8dadc21 > I set that mirror up last year around when the bug report was submitted. I see in 50aca8422b [0] on the org-mode repo @ngz removed references to the GitHub repo from lisp/ox-html.el, as I believe there was some talk to use Emacs=E2=80=99s htmlfontify instead of htmlize. But I=E2=80=99m not= aware of any progress on that front. Further, references to the GitHub repo still remain in lisp/ox-org.el, lisp/org-agenda.el, and lisp/org-manual.org; the first two of which were addressed by @nflqt=E2=80=99s commit above. [0]: https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commit/50aca8422b0afd4a2173ac932= 25fa9b39a94d8dd @ngz, until such time as htmlfontify fully replaces org-mode=E2=80=99s uses= of htmlize, what do you think about (partially) reverting your 50aca8422b and instead of linking to the htmlize repo on GitHub or no link at all, link to https://code.orgmode.org/mirrors/emacs-htmlize instead? > > >> Thank you for all the work done. > > Again. Best, amin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:23:57 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Nicolas Floquet Subject: bug#32722: closed (Re: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ?) Message-ID: References: <87zh9xahed.fsf@bzg.fr> <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 32722 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs,org-mode Reply-To: 32722@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 08:05:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1590307501-17031-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1590307501-17031-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? which was filed against the emacs,org-mode package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 32722@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 32722: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D32722 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1590307501-17031-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 32722-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2020 08:04:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36405 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jclcH-0004Pk-VN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:04:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jclcF-0004PS-S6 for 32722-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:04:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jclc5-0005bO-A4; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:04:07 -0400 Received: from lns-bzn-32-82-254-31-120.adsl.proxad.net ([82.254.31.120]:52098 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jclbx-0003MH-E5; Sun, 24 May 2020 04:03:57 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05A6A1A604DE; Sun, 24 May 2020 10:03:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#32722: [O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? References: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org> <87va73gn90.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <20180920182929.61517206@gmail.com> <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87in2oywzk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7nzri6a.fsf@kyleam.com> <83y3bj43d8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:03:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y3bj43d8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:43:47 +0300") Message-ID: <87zh9xahed.fsf@bzg.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32722-done Cc: n@flqt.fr, rms@gnu.org, right.ho@gmail.com, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr, rasmus@gmx.us, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, Kyle Meyer , 32722-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) AFAICT the issues raised in this thread have been solved, so I am closing this bug report now. Org-mode does not encourage users to use GitHub for hosting their source code, nor does it encourage them to use non-free javascript by browsing GitHub's page. Some files in Org still contain references to links starting with http://github.com but users can use M-x eww on these links and still get the correct instructions on how to clone the Git repository. The htmlize/htmlfontify discussion can continue in this report: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7506 If anyone think there are things we can still fix in this area, please reopen this bug report with suggestions on what to fix and how to fix it. Thanks! -- Bastien ------------=_1590307501-17031-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2018 15:23:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g06zX-00010r-9N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:23:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g05ma-0005X4-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mQ-0006QG-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mP-0006Pr-M9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mF-0002ur-VE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:06:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05m5-0006Di-Ju for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:05:55 -0400 Received: from smtp.numethik.fr ([80.67.190.197]:36094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05m5-0006As-5w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:05:45 -0400 Message-ID: <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flqt.fr; s=mail; t=1536761140; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to: references; bh=KoraJs4bkSTZ+BudliR/AT0kgVNS3Wn3RAehxzLj0kE=; b=854PrVp9ausrObEKM3XfH1qfLzLS/ZmGdhnIifyXOTRBUrzogsD1VtqFu53hTgCiQYwyD8 OzSOCACxYyCKiOIKXnrYDpLlht9u43TDcjyH/1sXNvxcxjnn9HJWPm2WvEb71oNCYUXiXU 0veiQJfvejso4EQT4ivL7MuUs31ItE5WT/oWv83/wa7n+GbpIb0voq8TYsXlffxZmiyeu7 mHrdWd40BKGyv27D2wQYQhPBt9gBMzFoc/RRpQKV2PV+QNyX9K/GWMU0xjlCMWvQepmFQ0 ayROywqo8IEeuBfg++ZWlwvu0JGimJkuZ8ri6ygwt5xYuZ4vbYSgv+7kS/wPDQ== Subject: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? From: Nicolas Floquet To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:05 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YUEU/CinmcN/zKvpZNFb" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:23:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) --=-YUEU/CinmcN/zKvpZNFb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. I don't understand why Emacs quote Github, a non-free platform, when I want to publish my org-blog : M-x org-publish-all [=E2=80=A6] Publishing file home/nico/Documents/Travaux/.nico/www/Tutoriels/Emacs/org-m= ode-listes-de-taches.org using =E2=80=98org-html-publish-to-html=E2=80=99 org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 2237... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 2786... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 3397... org-babel-exp process emacs-lisp at position 3846... org-babel-exp process org at position 4931... org-html-fontify-code: Please install htmlize from https://github.com/hniks= ic/emacs-htmlize Surely, I think I should editing my former publications to pass Emacs 25.1 to Emacs 26.1. But I also think that Emacs must not quote GitHub. Thank you for everything done. 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