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Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Improve docstring and customization for
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retitle 32680 27.0.50; Improve docstring and customization for 'message-sig=
nature'
reassign 32680 emacs
submitter 32680 Philipp Stephani
severity 32680 minor
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The manual states
If you change =E2=80=98message-signature=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=
=99, Emacs will not insert
your mail signature automatically. You can insert your mail signature
by typing =E2=80=98C-c C-w=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=98message-insert-signature=E2=
=80=99) in the mail buffer.
Emacs will look for your signature in the signature file.
However, the docstring for message-signature doesn't state that nil is a
possible value, and the customization choices also don't suggest nil.
In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 45, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24)
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Subject: Re: bug#32680: 27.0.50;
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Philipp Stephani writes:
> The manual states
>
> If you change =E2=80=98message-signature=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98nil=E2=
=80=99, Emacs will not insert
> your mail signature automatically. You can insert your mail signature
> by typing =E2=80=98C-c C-w=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=98message-insert-signature=E2=
=80=99) in the mail buffer.
> Emacs will look for your signature in the signature file.
>
> However, the docstring for message-signature doesn't state that nil is a
> possible value, and the customization choices also don't suggest nil.
We could even put this in emacs-26.
2018-09-10 Robert Pluim
* lisp/gnus/message.el (message-signature): Allow nil as a
customizable value, and describe its effect. (Bug #32680)
diff --git i/lisp/gnus/message.el w/lisp/gnus/message.el
index 66356b6fda..ec2286b06d 100644
--- i/lisp/gnus/message.el
+++ w/lisp/gnus/message.el
@@ -1079,12 +1079,15 @@ message-indent-citation-function
(defcustom message-signature mail-signature
"String to be inserted at the end of the message buffer.
If t, the `message-signature-file' file will be inserted instead.
+If nil, no signature is inserted.
If a function, the result from the function will be used instead.
-If a form, the result from the form will be used instead."
- :version "23.2"
+If a form, the result from the form will be used instead.
+See `mail-signature' for the recommended format of a signature."
+ :version "27.1"
:type '(choice string (const :tag "Contents of signature file" t)
function
- sexp)
+ sexp
+ (const :tag "None" nil))
:risky t
:link '(custom-manual "(message)Insertion Variables")
:group 'message-insertion)
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> From: Robert Pluim
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 16:25:21 +0200
> Cc: 32680@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Philipp Stephani writes:
>
> > The manual states
> >
> > If you change ‘message-signature’ to ‘nil’, Emacs will not insert
> > your mail signature automatically. You can insert your mail signature
> > by typing ‘C-c C-w’ (‘message-insert-signature’) in the mail buffer.
> > Emacs will look for your signature in the signature file.
> >
> > However, the docstring for message-signature doesn't state that nil is a
> > possible value, and the customization choices also don't suggest nil.
>
> We could even put this in emacs-26.
Fine with me, but if it will go to emacs-26, then the :version tag
should say so.
Thanks.
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Robert Pluim wrote:
> --- i/lisp/gnus/message.el
> +++ w/lisp/gnus/message.el
> @@ -1079,12 +1079,15 @@ message-indent-citation-function
> (defcustom message-signature mail-signature
> "String to be inserted at the end of the message buffer.
> If t, the `message-signature-file' file will be inserted instead.
> +If nil, no signature is inserted.
> If a function, the result from the function will be used instead.
> -If a form, the result from the form will be used instead."
> - :version "23.2"
> +If a form, the result from the form will be used instead.
May as well rewrite it all to use the active voice while you are there.
> +See `mail-signature' for the recommended format of a signature."
> + :version "27.1"
It's not new, and the default hasn't changed, so a version bump is not
appropriate. It's just a doc fix.
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Subject: Re: bug#32680: 27.0.50;
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Glenn Morris writes:
> Robert Pluim wrote:
>
>> --- i/lisp/gnus/message.el
>> +++ w/lisp/gnus/message.el
>> @@ -1079,12 +1079,15 @@ message-indent-citation-function
>> (defcustom message-signature mail-signature
>> "String to be inserted at the end of the message buffer.
>> If t, the `message-signature-file' file will be inserted instead.
>> +If nil, no signature is inserted.
>> If a function, the result from the function will be used instead.
>> -If a form, the result from the form will be used instead."
>> - :version "23.2"
>> +If a form, the result from the form will be used instead.
>
> May as well rewrite it all to use the active voice while you are there.
>
OK. I modified 'mail-signature' as well, it didn=CA=BCt describe the nil
value.
>> +See `mail-signature' for the recommended format of a signature."
>> + :version "27.1"
>
> It's not new, and the default hasn't changed, so a version bump is not
> appropriate. It's just a doc fix.
Fixed.
2018-09-10 Robert Pluim
* lisp/gnus/message.el (message-signature): Allow nil as a
customizable value, and describe its effect.
* lisp/mail/sendmail.el (mail-signature): Describe effect of nil value.
diff --git i/lisp/gnus/message.el w/lisp/gnus/message.el
index 66356b6fda..6ecf804e9e 100644
--- i/lisp/gnus/message.el
+++ w/lisp/gnus/message.el
@@ -1078,13 +1078,16 @@ message-indent-citation-function
=20
(defcustom message-signature mail-signature
"String to be inserted at the end of the message buffer.
-If t, the `message-signature-file' file will be inserted instead.
-If a function, the result from the function will be used instead.
-If a form, the result from the form will be used instead."
+If nil, no signature is inserted.
+If t, the `message-signature-file' file is inserted instead.
+If a function, the result from the function is used.
+If a form, the result from the form is used.
+See `mail-signature' for the recommended format of a signature."
:version "23.2"
:type '(choice string (const :tag "Contents of signature file" t)
function
- sexp)
+ sexp
+ (const :tag "None" nil))
:risky t
:link '(custom-manual "(message)Insertion Variables")
:group 'message-insertion)
diff --git i/lisp/mail/sendmail.el w/lisp/mail/sendmail.el
index 50dd81039e..af5270fbd9 100644
--- i/lisp/mail/sendmail.el
+++ w/lisp/mail/sendmail.el
@@ -370,6 +370,7 @@ mail-mode-map
;;;###autoload
(defcustom mail-signature t
"Text inserted at end of mail buffer when a message is initialized.
+If nil, no signature is inserted.
If t, it means to insert the contents of the file `mail-signature-file'.
If a string, that string is inserted.
(To make a proper signature, the string should begin with \\n\\n-- \\n,
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Robert Pluim wrote:
> -If t, the `message-signature-file' file will be inserted instead.
> -If a function, the result from the function will be used instead.
> -If a form, the result from the form will be used instead."
> +If nil, no signature is inserted.
> +If t, the `message-signature-file' file is inserted instead.
> +If a function, the result from the function is used.
> +If a form, the result from the form is used.
> +See `mail-signature' for the recommended format of a signature."
To me, "active" would be:
If nil, don't insert a signature.
If t, insert `message-signature-file'.
If a function or form, insert its result.
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> * lisp/gnus/message.el (message-signature): Allow nil as a
> customizable value, and describe its effect.
> * lisp/mail/sendmail.el (mail-signature): Describe effect of nil value.
Thanks; I've now applied this to Emacs 27.1 with Glenn's tweaks to the
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