From unknown Mon Jun 23 04:11:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#32581 <32581@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#32581 <32581@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning Reply-To: bug#32581 <32581@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 11:11:42 +0000 retitle 32581 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning reassign 32581 emacs submitter 32581 Glenn Linderman severity 32581 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 30 00:35:16 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2018 04:35:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfs-0005K6-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56470) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfp-0005Js-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfi-0000YE-Hn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfi-0000Y3-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfg-0006eV-SW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfc-0000VE-Pz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:04 -0400 Received: from bisque.maple.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.214.18]:12907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfc-0000UF-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:35:00 -0400 X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EB61235AD for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 04:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc (unknown [100.96.11.179]) (Authenticated sender: interserver) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7A59912397E for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 04:34:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc (webhosting2025.is.cc [64.20.52.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.16.2); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 04:34:57 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: interserver X-Sponge-Juvenile: 79778c461749f678_1535603697730_3111613466 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1535603697730:4171980749 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1535603697730 Received: from 24-241-130-245.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com ([24.241.130.245]:52238 helo=[192.168.43.252]) by webhosting2025.is.cc with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fvEfU-001sPh-Fn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:34:55 -0400 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Glenn Linderman Subject: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning Message-ID: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 21:34:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A2A7399B19096C354EDD45EB" Content-Language: en-US X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AuthUser: email@ywawy.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A2A7399B19096C354EDD45EB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --text follows this line-- I have emacs open a certain large file at boot-time startup, because the=20 Python mode takes so long to parse it. So I guess I forgot to save last night, did a windows shutdown, and this morning my work wasn't there... but while emacs probably gave the warning, it was probably wiped out by the next warning from the Python mode, and I don't sit there and watch my computer boot up.=C2=A0 So by the time I noticed stuff from last night wa= s missing, the recover file had been rewritten with the new edits. So it would be nice to have an optional way to make that warning require a response before disappearing. 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I have emacs open a certain large file at boot-time startup, because the Python
mode takes so long to parse it. So I guess I forgot to save last night,
did a windows shutdown, and this morning my work wasn't there... but<= br> while emacs probably gave the warning, it was probably wiped out by the
next warning from the Python mode, and I don't sit there and watch my
computer boot up.=C2=A0 So by the time I noticed stuff from last nigh= t was
missing, the recover file had been rewritten with the new edits.

So it would be nice to have an optional way to make that warning require
a response before disappearing.




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=C2=A0of 2014-10-20 on KAEL
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.3.9600
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--------------A2A7399B19096C354EDD45EB-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 22:43:03 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2019 02:43:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hm806-0007ed-Jo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:43:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hm804-0007eE-76 for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:43:00 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hm7zz-0004lZ-Gg; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:42:58 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Linderman Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 04:42:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> (Glenn Linderman's message of "Wed, 29 Aug 2018 21:34:52 -0700") Message-ID: <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Glenn Linderman writes: > I have emacs open a certain large file at boot-time startup, because > the Python mode takes so long to parse it. 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So I guess I forgot to save > last night, did a windows shutdown, and this morning my work wasn't > there... but while emacs probably gave the warning, it was probably > wiped out by the next warning from the Python mode, and I don't sit > there and watch my computer boot up. So by the time I noticed stuff > from last night was missing, the recover file had been rewritten with > the new edits. If I understand you correctly (and I may not), you're saying that when you open a Python file that has an auto-saved file, then Emacs says that an auto-saved file exists... and then Python mode issues a message that overwrites that message? What is that Python-mode message? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 23:48:41 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2019 03:48:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hm91c-0003Ue-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:48:41 -0400 Received: from dragonfly.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.51]:33355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hm91b-0003UW-G2 for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:48:40 -0400 X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA863418C5; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 03:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc (100-96-11-126.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.11.126]) (Authenticated sender: interserver) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 623B4341342; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 03:48:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.20.52.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.3); Sat, 13 Jul 2019 03:48:37 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: interserver X-Befitting-Macabre: 5e258a67629ba61d_1562989717375_474773998 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1562989717374:124094612 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1562989717374 Received: from [71.94.8.251] (port=64790 helo=[192.168.43.252]) by webhosting2025.is.cc with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm91P-003Ah3-DB; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:48:29 -0400 Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning To: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> From: Glenn Linderman Message-ID: <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 20:48:26 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C5366F2179B85241ED90C797" Content-Language: en-US X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AuthUser: email@ywawy.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C5366F2179B85241ED90C797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 7/12/2019 7:42 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Glenn Linderman writes: > >> I have emacs open a certain large file at boot-time startup, because >> the Python mode takes so long to parse it. So I guess I forgot to save >> last night, did a windows shutdown, and this morning my work wasn't >> there... but while emacs probably gave the warning, it was probably >> wiped out by the next warning from the Python mode, and I don't sit >> there and watch my computer boot up. So by the time I noticed stuff >> from last night was missing, the recover file had been rewritten with >> the new edits. > If I understand you correctly (and I may not), you're saying that when > you open a Python file that has an auto-saved file, then Emacs says that > an auto-saved file exists... and then Python mode issues a message that > overwrites that message? > > What is that Python-mode message? > I think you understood correctly.  I'm not sure what version of which Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste programming for a few more customizations). Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make mode-specific abbrevs work." And I find the following line in my .emacs file: (add-to-list 'load-path "d:/my/py/emacs/python-mode.el-6.1.1") --------------C5366F2179B85241ED90C797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 7/12/2019 7:42 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> writes:


I have emacs open a certain large file at boot-time startup, because
the Python mode takes so long to parse it. So I guess I forgot to save
last night, did a windows shutdown, and this morning my work wasn't
there... but while emacs probably gave the warning, it was probably
wiped out by the next warning from the Python mode, and I don't sit
there and watch my computer boot up.  So by the time I noticed stuff
from last night was missing, the recover file had been rewritten with
the new edits.

If I understand you correctly (and I may not), you're saying that when
you open a Python file that has an auto-saved file, then Emacs says that
an auto-saved file exists...  and then Python mode issues a message that
overwrites that message?

What is that Python-mode message?

I think you understood correctly.  I'm not sure what version of which Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste programming for a few more customizations).

Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file.

"Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make mode-specific abbrevs work."

And I find the following line in my .emacs file:

(add-to-list 'load-path "d:/my/py/emacs/python-mode.el-6.1.1")
--------------C5366F2179B85241ED90C797-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 09:36:09 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2019 13:36:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmIC9-0002lj-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 09:36:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:33708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmIC4-0002lY-Fa for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 09:36:07 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hmIBz-0000yh-NH; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:36:02 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Linderman Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 15:35:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> (Glenn Linderman's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 20:48:26 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Glenn Linderman writes: > I think you understood correctly. I'm not sure what version of which > Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, > because it has extensions, but I'm not real good [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Glenn Linderman writes: > I think you understood correctly. I'm not sure what version of which > Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, > because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding > elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste > programming for a few more customizations). > > Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. > > "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make > mode-specific abbrevs work." Right. Some modes are chatty at startup and hides warnings you're interested in. It's perfectly valid to not want to load an autosaved file, and making Emacs prompt would be an inconvenience, in my opinion. Perhaps Emacs should treat auto-saved files a bit more like what it does with files that have changed? I.e., if you try to edit a file with an auto-save file, it should prompt you something like "foo has auto save data; really edit the buffer?" or something? Would that make sense? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 12:24:18 2019 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2019 16:24:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmKor-0001l9-Qs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:24:18 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmKop-0001l0-Oo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:24:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmKoo-0007ty-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:24:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmKon-0007NE-Da for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:24:14 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:46469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmKon-0007GA-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.39] ([88.130.49.12]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MXHBo-1hy0k62MPe-00Yhzw for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:24:04 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Message-ID: <6738fac4-f893-001c-2e40-cc4f241007d1@easy-emacs.de> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:26:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TxKzUMVkrWT9BIWc1i31kbSQr324/kpva+sZ0Nd1Y1PnF8AbCTo 85pHJ4grX//3zz+1W/Spf1ot6VS7y+FlWeSeNhGMUWDgRDc7L6P11ku2jO6ND/Gap44YNll +5UW8W2ydyaf/V2k/NBZFnLgl7dNEXfJmc1hIHZW0L32auNxlsVAZ2VxUTfHWYe1lgXbLv0 X1s8iPXvqLD0kZNIbPXtw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:dVcaANCBurw=:TP3RWT2bM7jhPOsxBfA7OX L5Hol+ZlLaxYtNcoN3LBOrQClFRI8o2VH/bYbpKjnKQC5iWC9fjpfMIxJZ6NdLU13fRcPBGdf G30U1f366rztQKQISI6SSiLnJ7oXFa0YMc2XJSJyr84T5+JYVQq/f5sfm3oRlQTxFBcKGZ0Oo poo9rVn6jpBSRp1KqbAjqgyDU1hHMDfxr6bX3Z7qRouOY8nfqDYjqedLODFEO0j1+Hq7HIhNs MmabEyWOs2/k4/g3EXls48RMeRLn4jP6/+/M6DsLkEw1FN31YyxOfaWXgSnqfe08u1IvJEtK3 haW+v/vsVxPERRLK1CPO1EXMLv479EBKRGo5B2dtJxSkDQtQMi8CX4CoiGbwPZq9L4fWHOhHd 3zlx/TXLqTdl4cweQNSBvbDgYdNRMT45y6Oq6cw/4Nbf01koY160fwCiRF1a6rxH7A35HamzD Ugk3Rrp5iktY6IBKe1dgmp/0AaIdks7zsauLwA60pI1ex/l8jBYQIkN3aFQF+TZPBDNvwTTRq u3cweDtCnuvrUHOXpDlM0j0RLE/9QxTSVDA2A496nejRBkYE6XAEHIaDmaXk/UO1B5L/40DN8 QRRQaB0fGzi8JoTAA7DvWttbdAfLY/vyFyC2JHIv2ddJfnvO7pmc0XM27GS9D44N/1np3vXcC e7PSPK8uNs4Rk0su8Jj/t1lE32QAedNHbFF5U4++vemsybK0FFC7sA6R8vCfsGn5PSRZWDZYW 8p9XKqI1aafmn1eZaYSPyra732QEmJRLqW532ccsaIC9RRQMI2qWjt1iadxJfyi2APo27bPkK /dW7hyp X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.13 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 13.07.19 15:35, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Glenn Linderman writes: > >> I think you understood correctly. I'm not sure what version of which >> Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, >> because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding >> elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste >> programming for a few more customizations). >> >> Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. >> >> "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make >> mode-specific abbrevs work." > Right. Some modes are chatty at startup and hides warnings you're > interested in. > > It's perfectly valid to not want to load an autosaved file, and making > Emacs prompt would be an inconvenience, in my opinion. > > Perhaps Emacs should treat auto-saved files a bit more like what it does > with files that have changed? I.e., if you try to edit a file with an > auto-save file, it should prompt you something like "foo has auto save > data; really edit the buffer?" or something? > > Would that make sense? > Hi, python-mode.el developer here. As for the abbrev-file-name, assume that's a general warning from Emacs. Looking for the value of abbrev-file-name and creating a file of that name if not existing should silence that warning. Also auto-save issue seems not mode-related. BTW bug-reports are welcome at https://gitlab.com/python-mode-devs/python-mode/issues Best, Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 13 22:11:12 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2019 02:11:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43670 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmTyp-00034m-TB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:11:12 -0400 Received: from cadetblue.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.28]:64000) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmTyn-00034d-3Z for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:11:09 -0400 X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C059B1A189A; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc (100-96-30-63.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.30.63]) (Authenticated sender: interserver) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3676E1A15AD; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:11:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com Received: from webhosting2025.is.cc ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.20.52.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.3); Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:11:07 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: interserver|x-authuser|email@ywawy.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: interserver X-Ruddy-Abortive: 425cc9081ae70837_1563070267450_2262778579 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1563070267450:2602636603 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1563070267450 Received: from 24-205-219-131.dhcp.crcy.nv.charter.com ([24.205.219.131]:52328 helo=[192.168.43.252]) by webhosting2025.is.cc with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hmTyb-003NbH-9a; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 22:10:59 -0400 Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning To: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> From: Glenn Linderman Message-ID: <7128dbb2-de2c-45e2-2cd6-fd55bc8bb6ab@g.nevcal.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:10:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CBA5FA460B773F792F74F66A" Content-Language: en-US X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AuthUser: email@ywawy.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CBA5FA460B773F792F74F66A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/13/2019 6:35 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Glenn Linderman writes: > >> I think you understood correctly. I'm not sure what version of which >> Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs, >> because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding >> elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste >> programming for a few more customizations). >> >> Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. >> >> "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make >> mode-specific abbrevs work." > Right. Some modes are chatty at startup and hides warnings you're > interested in. > > It's perfectly valid to not want to load an autosaved file, and making > Emacs prompt would be an inconvenience, in my opinion. I agree that a prompt (a forced interaction) would not be appropriate. > Perhaps Emacs should treat auto-saved files a bit more like what it does > with files that have changed? I.e., if you try to edit a file with an > auto-save file, it should prompt you something like "foo has auto save > data; really edit the buffer?" or something? This is a very interesting idea. It is only when you go to edit that you would lose the auto-save file, so that would be a "last-chance" to retrieve your data, and you would be interacting with the file at that point anyway, so a forced interaction would be less intrusive than at load time. > Would that make sense? > That would certainly be safer than the current behavior, but would add the forced interaction. My thought was more along the lines of some sort of message priority, where informational messages like the abbrev-file-name warning could not override a more important message... Of course, everyone thinks there message is most important, so that might be difficult to enforce or rank. Another idea is that multiple messages could be displayed concurrently in an expanding echo area, and that none would vanish until the first user interaction. That way, when the user turns their attention to the emacs window again, all the messages from startup activities would be visible until the first keystroke or significant mouse operation (more than just a click) for the window occurs. This wouldn't require a forced interaction, and wouldn't require ranking message priorities, but would allow the user an opportunity to see all the startup messages. And it could generalize to non-startup situations: any occasion when macros or scripts are running and produce multiple messages without user interaction might want to grow the echo area to display them until there is another required user interaction. Thanks for considering the possibility of enhancing something in this area, as it was a significant amount of work that was lost, and it could potentially happen again, and not just to me (I'm a little sensitized to the possibility now, others may not yet be). --------------CBA5FA460B773F792F74F66A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 7/13/2019 6:35 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Glenn Linderman <v+python@g.nevcal.com> writes:


I think you understood correctly.  I'm not sure what version of which
Python-mode I have, but could probably figure it out somehow (I love emacs,
because it has extensions, but I'm not real good at writing or understanding
elisp: I use other people's extensions, mostly, and a bit of cut-n-paste
programming for a few more customizations).

Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file.

"Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make
mode-specific abbrevs work."

Right.  Some modes are chatty at startup and hides warnings you're
interested in.

It's perfectly valid to not want to load an autosaved file, and making
Emacs prompt would be an inconvenience, in my opinion.

I agree that a prompt (a forced interaction) would not be appropriate.
Perhaps Emacs should treat auto-saved files a bit more like what it does
with files that have changed?  I.e., if you try to edit a file with an
auto-save file, it should prompt you something like "foo has auto save
data; really edit the buffer?" or something?

This is a very interesting idea. It is only when you go to edit that you would lose the auto-save file, so that would be a "last-chance" to retrieve your data, and you would be interacting with the file at that point anyway, so a forced interaction would be less intrusive than at load time.

Would that make sense?
That would certainly be safer than the current behavior, but would add the forced interaction.

My thought was more along the lines of some sort of message priority, where informational messages like the abbrev-file-name warning could not override a more important message... Of course, everyone thinks there message is most important, so that might be difficult to enforce or rank.

Another idea is that multiple messages could be displayed concurrently in an expanding echo area, and that none would vanish until the first user interaction. That way, when the user turns their attention to the emacs window again, all the messages from startup activities would be visible until the first keystroke or significant mouse operation (more than just a click) for the window occurs. This wouldn't require a forced interaction, and wouldn't require ranking message priorities, but would allow the user an opportunity to see all the startup messages. And it could generalize to non-startup situations: any occasion when macros or scripts are running and produce multiple messages without user interaction might want to grow the echo area to display them until there is another required user interaction.

Thanks for considering the possibility of enhancing something in this area, as it was a significant amount of work that was lost, and it could potentially happen again, and not just to me (I'm a little sensitized to the possibility now, others may not yet be).

--------------CBA5FA460B773F792F74F66A-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 08:50:54 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2019 12:50:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmdxt-0001oU-PQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:50:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:51332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmdxr-0001oL-OG for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:50:52 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hmdxm-0002Ih-V8; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:50:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Linderman Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> <7128dbb2-de2c-45e2-2cd6-fd55bc8bb6ab@g.nevcal.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEXc2t729vkiHR+9sreO dn/q6u5/N+tPAAACWElEQVQ4jV3TzZKbMAwAYBHjO56E+45x70pk7tRS7zhE7/8qlQmbpWUyOfiz /CPJAF5VH5HR9zHeQxiIHCJ5eEPixW8ldgaLA6IGNq7PKX95la/ZgB3NM36gLJwL4fdS2BlsXp9c KPnXC8OG3oBci3jNesmpT7OuXbj+Rocz093gOWt5TP0kvt7DFYVoYereEXLhXpKvXRhW0NXXMTRY lC8L5tTVGj7fDitnWoTCuFY9wbZcEfokc1AH3Rm+tOomdB/tyifwtpR6nwlWYv4fAFZBRyIngMsC q8MtIuUsc/2Bh13ZQS9MkjOeoKC2WxXqf+VMn6XIoK5YSagACdcw7vtAkojqyNvGfwbb3oewXxJi jGxhFTIHdE6sJOMHiMnrwuuMTpbjwA2SCKFbyA69Frn/QIxWg8uU6fpnKGU+Q+TuNl3Fy1DicloK tYZrugqzK5HrNyzWKHaU2A2ZucTpgMywQyg85CVbfPd9c4M2qaTxIZLKB9Ay3+ARl76I5PQ+FtiO 1r7VG/BWZOoTHhFWOqc4G0gmQfiAjTtvXXsp0lLgE9UDMuXZcnqLIsJYZa/VCNnSYZsYiJWWfoAI iWYN9WULCUHYYVSwlNtPtb7aOPoxGYzagBnb63nZDFvpNoFF7ED2Fi0kS9utPhmOiGwTiXWVVkio D7b+1QZtIpLaUdtS3pLtRz0i0Po02bhdb4gWpTu0edaOCfbnfUv/gBUugWvwTNYwo+4poVysvhO0 zz8msiLUPbvl6IcW4qOgfyfxGN4F/Wb/em6ftxBcDHzYk3iCKBBTu3iDv5httvTR+ZAeAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:50:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <7128dbb2-de2c-45e2-2cd6-fd55bc8bb6ab@g.nevcal.com> (Glenn Linderman's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:10:56 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Glenn Linderman writes: > This is a very interesting idea. It is only when you go to edit that > you would lose the auto-save file, so that would be a "last-chance" to > retrieve your data, and you would be interacting with [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Glenn Linderman writes: > This is a very interesting idea. It is only when you go to edit that > you would lose the auto-save file, so that would be a "last-chance" to > retrieve your data, and you would be interacting with the file at that > point anyway, so a forced interaction would be less intrusive than at > load time. Yes, I think that warning about the auto-saved file when you try to edit the new file has possibilities... I'm wondering whether there would be any adverse effects somehow. Emacs has a number of things that warn about editing files -- that it's changed on disk, or that another Emacs process has the file locked, and now checking for auto-saved files in the same area would perhaps add unforeseen complications. But perhaps we should just try and see what it feels like in practice. > My thought was more along the lines of some sort of message priority, where > informational messages like the abbrev-file-name warning could not override a > more important message... Of course, everyone thinks there message is most > important, so that might be difficult to enforce or rank. We do have a very primitive sort of message priority -- i.e., we have some things that are so bad that we pop up the *Warnings* buffer. But I think that's too intrusive for auto-saved files. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 08:55:34 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2019 12:55:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43977 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hme2Q-0001vr-F1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:55:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:51398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hme2O-0001vi-2o for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 08:55:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hme2K-0002Le-Be; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:55:30 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> <6738fac4-f893-001c-2e40-cc4f241007d1@easy-emacs.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEXc2t729vkiHR+9sreO dn/q6u5/N+tPAAACWElEQVQ4jV3TzZKbMAwAYBHjO56E+45x70pk7tRS7zhE7/8qlQmbpWUyOfiz /CPJAF5VH5HR9zHeQxiIHCJ5eEPixW8ldgaLA6IGNq7PKX95la/ZgB3NM36gLJwL4fdS2BlsXp9c KPnXC8OG3oBci3jNesmpT7OuXbj+Rocz093gOWt5TP0kvt7DFYVoYereEXLhXpKvXRhW0NXXMTRY lC8L5tTVGj7fDitnWoTCuFY9wbZcEfokc1AH3Rm+tOomdB/tyifwtpR6nwlWYv4fAFZBRyIngMsC q8MtIuUsc/2Bh13ZQS9MkjOeoKC2WxXqf+VMn6XIoK5YSagACdcw7vtAkojqyNvGfwbb3oewXxJi jGxhFTIHdE6sJOMHiMnrwuuMTpbjwA2SCKFbyA69Frn/QIxWg8uU6fpnKGU+Q+TuNl3Fy1DicloK tYZrugqzK5HrNyzWKHaU2A2ZucTpgMywQyg85CVbfPd9c4M2qaTxIZLKB9Ay3+ARl76I5PQ+FtiO 1r7VG/BWZOoTHhFWOqc4G0gmQfiAjTtvXXsp0lLgE9UDMuXZcnqLIsJYZa/VCNnSYZsYiJWWfoAI iWYN9WULCUHYYVSwlNtPtb7aOPoxGYzagBnb63nZDFvpNoFF7ED2Fi0kS9utPhmOiGwTiXWVVkio D7b+1QZtIpLaUdtS3pLtRz0i0Po02bhdb4gWpTu0edaOCfbnfUv/gBUugWvwTNYwo+4poVysvhO0 zz8msiLUPbvl6IcW4qOgfyfxGN4F/Wb/em6ftxBcDHzYk3iCKBBTu3iDv5httvTR+ZAeAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:55:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6738fac4-f893-001c-2e40-cc4f241007d1@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6hler\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:26:00 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andreas Röhler writes: > python-mode.el developer here. As for the abbrev-file-name, assume > that's a general warning from Emacs. > > Looking for the value of abbrev-file-name and creating a file of that > name if not exis [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > python-mode.el developer here. As for the abbrev-file-name, assume > that's a general warning from Emacs. > > Looking for the value of abbrev-file-name and creating a file of that > name if not existing should silence that warning. > > Also auto-save issue seems not mode-related. Yes, this isn't really a python-mode issue... > BTW bug-reports are welcome at > https://gitlab.com/python-mode-devs/python-mode/issues ... but there are a number of python-mode bugs in the Emacs bug tracker. Looks like about 40-ish, with an additional ten that are in the intersection of python mode and CEDET. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 13:04:23 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2019 17:04:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmhvD-0000kK-F8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:04:23 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.73]:49807) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmhvA-0000jt-VQ for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:04:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.39] ([88.130.49.39]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N5VPg-1iWPtU0rsI-016u8p; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:04:14 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning To: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> <6738fac4-f893-001c-2e40-cc4f241007d1@easy-emacs.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Message-ID: <6b2c17e0-9dd2-7675-483d-70fc7975fd18@easy-emacs.de> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:06:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jC4fp2PZnbGn8q8nQqfXKLeysmfNc8hHTWKZ7yRI4xGMZfNTpU8 LKLCAW1uBEfoD0VUbAJO2WaQQsiVU6z8U2+ha04+DrRoiLRGfzU1hgxCYgqKyGKKzw6A/yR Xd9UWqqrCnFHuREplxzXyzDcdmECRLU7Y4AFBmVj87hvPWBO04eb/7OVXLgoOCp6ceMQi74 3ODjjYtlKGE3i1+9AWYRg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:hFNF1XLYj6o=:stP0zw+kLgui9CSPe6B931 Zp4gM2a0xwPBKEGDgVoV4pjv4TThcQaHU+hE2/AWoT3T0C03NoLpiwMOrfATE84Cw+PMlnRnx cAV6ao6+cYMUUPbL0jy81gbENBZPYHxA/NIeziS2dZRoJhtkGtyJr3hr8YAh53CgZXDLGiPC0 5ZNZiWUacCthEed5TMOzasoSB4nSNoGhjK3MIDhTb1JwXDPgRLbPeIEx4zaikez670PZfqXzq cYz3dkqEFnt/BsMKIWFgaHU7G7/o5zyZrKRTgJNfTw89SRrVoPif0A2fCh0XEsERzbKLPpwDu o7KeVxrC34MUTmEe2roTkt+K215yXxJGOe2BunRB7lpyYRLzjrmAl+puRdRtUcZlkoPJeuULq h1FYm/TV0uraGd1Lcs2cmJ6L6d1HQen+LjeNkhY/8RDsn6M9etl4rFYX3I7sN5Pe+yazaHSqi sLK8P766B20sOr2s6lVOWnYb5yIYeLg02Ekw5I/l7nBknk28W2oK4RrEiH5n6v+9qwhC5N0F3 xrY+PstqrrB039/Koj2lKv5FxGDCkgjV28Roa2YBTFizTrEkXSCpl1nI2WAcIPFL3JscUuoSc eYtTHMwgHsoCj4uruj2aMiJtYnwuoo7uWjawg2QsEUYEaI0s2xGDL2Qgsu1p2KzqcocgU8PsN BkvrbRgCCMG+KsNSmlj68SUM86iSbFz2udc1+vqkUoToDdvlM5IrTSKRLUxbU2Yfqnr4/BWNu pQgTlPk1bNdJFpqmCmm0Hi7Kpa4jfTf9Xb5Dp63EsFVse6lwroU+avC7s+mhOXxiipzaHLzTe A5BHVTs X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 14.07.19 14:55, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Yes, this isn't really a python-mode issue... > >> BTW bug-reports are welcome at >> https://gitlab.com/python-mode-devs/python-mode/issues > ... but there are a number of python-mode bugs in the Emacs bug tracker. > Looks like about 40-ish, with an additional ten that are in the > intersection of python mode and CEDET. > Understood  a fairly old version of python-mode.el was mentioned in this report, not python.el developed here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 13:18:37 2019 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2019 17:18:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmi8z-0001E3-BR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:18:37 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:55542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmi8x-0001Dv-9e for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:18:35 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hmi8u-0004Iz-Fu; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:18:34 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> <6738fac4-f893-001c-2e40-cc4f241007d1@easy-emacs.de> <6b2c17e0-9dd2-7675-483d-70fc7975fd18@easy-emacs.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEV/AQMlAABTAQKeFxpH AAFlvZNhAAACK0lEQVQ4jV1T7YHrIAxzIANgzgMAYQBfeQNAjv1nejJpru3xI2kjbEn+oJ+dWRL3 pnv3zQ6V9ewLEPUq7BpR0zdglqjUmEPTRPQE5jZYKLqmzIddv4HBXGV2IsfiLVFrzriIQSFjzjG5 AFiXbyAOQdwU3wgB6pc4AxCzsZzc1SBPf4AIL6QOKnzzFwBZmWVK8tCUwK+/wDoRWcyG01cqHmcF OVFyjxouVdf1Ucf4OUsit3P0upwvrRH5euVEiveyQ48RM2TVGXvdQqVM5J0B+SKfM6baD84OPt44 uPKZslUasvz+UoUQ6qduEpsj4hcgAMrZtBNq6z4AgTl4pkPT6jE9jc9A/dBC2xfaiwaTkY+JTOJg ucx8NBcIj5XK+hQpnwrt0e8BRXRXKpgPD0lqWYM7URIAw7o6RneHVwvv6qzEl0FhLuTzjq5wfOC7 GvmchhUkLdl+6eoKjSFL8GmlXFICYfCI6rNYwJ8n5i+v7i4il5BvhL8agLzqgQTlDmVpJne5MIBf B8ADgCy5QeK4hNtwI6Le10K0NDFtbA0sxjHty4yyquO/A75jT6ZcpGWU9bbCN4/ZWz4Qk7aajYAy 7FkHb47uaI9mvhyfwPFwBwjjcwvWXF259+DRqMOjfc8dvMjXPA1BMfwNXEgN3wjG3FLzH6k4VqwV 5j2pb78jGhfk4CalteWv2bXjJbsfeuO4i4V/W8cYtLWcbwCanQ9y5dAPcg7/cB1yCxnwH+irfa7/ 1zcoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:18:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6b2c17e0-9dd2-7675-483d-70fc7975fd18@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6hler\=22's\?\= message of "Sun, 14 Jul 2019 19:06:12 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andreas Röhler writes: > Understood  a fairly old version of python-mode.el was mentioned in > this report, not python.el developed here. Ah, I see. 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Ah, I see. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 06 23:13:40 2022 Received: (at 32581) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2022 04:13:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGvPH-0005IW-Uk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 23:13:40 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nGvPC-0005IA-S9 for 32581@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2022 23:13:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hc9Hj2x4i8eeKf6mBn3IUEUox15TjgPSapP2APDBlV8=; b=Aks5yEIgrJl9PhfuPMJvl1wT0Z 6X5Lred9eXf3e0dUT7mG4F4d1sLLCr+wLrAfTsmGlZgNroxkhJ2B6WhwNxmBzzdh1yLpH8pAYqGMA szTorEkL5A+J18xt4hab7W1icV5kfbml1vK2u54rJmAf6JM4BlwAkqm4glpkEwuQZyBE=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nGvP2-0003tU-UW; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 05:13:27 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Linderman Subject: Re: bug#32581: 24.4; make recover-file a prompt instead of a warning References: <4cb978b3-9453-29c5-4757-4ef804bf5c54@g.nevcal.com> <87sgrazmc0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <81bd4ae4-60de-7a64-24e6-d6e43c89c13f@g.nevcal.com> <7128dbb2-de2c-45e2-2cd6-fd55bc8bb6ab@g.nevcal.com> X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _77_: "Sugar On My Tongue" Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 05:13:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7128dbb2-de2c-45e2-2cd6-fd55bc8bb6ab@g.nevcal.com> (Glenn Linderman's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2019 19:10:56 -0700") Message-ID: <87h79bxqjh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Glenn Linderman writes: > Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. > > "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make > mode-specific abbrevs work." Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32581 Cc: 32581@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Glenn Linderman writes: > Probably the following message, that I get every time I open the file. > > "Warning: no abbrev-file found, customize `abbrev-file-name' in order to make > mode-specific abbrevs work." (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) I can't find that message in the Emacs tree, so I guess it's coming from a third party package? In any case, I think we decided to not make recover-file into a prompt, so I think the problem here really is that warning message, which seems unhelpful and excessive. 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