From chris@simplistix.co.uk Sun May 10 15:13:53 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 May 2009 22:13:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4AMDodu016657 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 15:13:51 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:53065 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M3HHK-00021R-0j for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:13:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M3HHH-0002Wm-K9 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk ([89.151.125.140]:41445) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M3HHG-0002WM-JB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2009 18:13:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 420F24F8079 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:50 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Opening a file on a windows share by dragging it from Explorer and dropping it into Emacs takes many many seconds. Doing the same operation on Emacs 22.3.1 is almost instantaneous. The file is in a large subversion 1.6 checkout, which may or may not be relevant In GNU Emacs 23.0.93.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-05-02 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENG value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Sun May 10 20:07:12 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 03:07:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4B377Yi003184 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 10 May 2009 20:07:09 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJG00300LTH0300@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 11 May 2009 06:05:59 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.73.80]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJG00F1XLXYRS30@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Mon, 11 May 2009 06:05:59 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:06:00 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers , 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:13:50 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > Cc: > > Opening a file on a windows share by dragging it from Explorer and > dropping it into Emacs takes many many seconds. > Doing the same operation on Emacs 22.3.1 is almost instantaneous. > The file is in a large subversion 1.6 checkout, which may or may not be > relevant Could you try again after setting w32-get-true-file-attributes to nil? Does that make the time shorter in any significant way? Also, can you show some numbers, like how "many many seconds" does it take with the current pretest and what is the time it takes Emacs 22.3 to do the same job? And if you repeat the same task again, is the time shorter or roughly the same? Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as drag-n-drop? Thanks. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 11 01:36:09 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 08:36:09 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4B8a623031209 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 01:36:07 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA5FA4F8079; Mon, 11 May 2009 09:36:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:36:11 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Also, can you show some numbers, like how "many many seconds" does it > take with the current pretest and what is the time it takes Emacs 22.3 > to do the same job? And if you repeat the same task again, is the > time shorter or roughly the same? Emacs 22.3 is pretty much instantaneous. Emacs 23.0.93 takes around 11 seconds. Repeating the task with a different file in the same folder takes roughly the same time. > Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as > drag-n-drop? No, the one file I tried took over a minute before I got bored of counting. > Could you try again after setting w32-get-true-file-attributes to nil? > Does that make the time shorter in any significant way? No. I wonder if vc-svn may be the culprit? How can I disable that? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 11 11:08:44 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 18:08:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BI8eh7008373 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:08:41 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJH00H00RI4Z500@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:08:12 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.73.80]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJH008ETRPMDIV0@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:08:12 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:08:13 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:36:11 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > > Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as > > drag-n-drop? > > No, the one file I tried took over a minute before I got bored of counting. Sorry, I don't understand: is "C-x d" faster or slower than drag-n-drop? > I wonder if vc-svn may be the culprit? How can I disable that? Try setting `vc-handled-backends' to nil. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 11 11:11:29 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 18:11:29 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BIBPPC009753 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:11:27 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64C2E4F8076; Mon, 11 May 2009 19:11:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:11:31 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:36:11 +0100 >> From: Chris Withers >> CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com >> >>> Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as >>> drag-n-drop? >> No, the one file I tried took over a minute before I got bored of counting. > > Sorry, I don't understand: is "C-x d" faster or slower than > drag-n-drop? Slower. >> I wonder if vc-svn may be the culprit? How can I disable that? > > Try setting `vc-handled-backends' to nil. The gave me the following error on startup: Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `~/.emacs': Wrong type argument: symbolp, (RCS CVS SVN SCCS Bzr Git Hg Mtn Arch) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 11 11:25:23 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 18:25:24 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BIPI1j013491 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:25:20 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJH00000SDP4700@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:25:12 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.73.80]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJH0063LSHZUGW1@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:25:12 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:25:15 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83y6t3xzsk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:11:31 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:36:11 +0100 > >> From: Chris Withers > >> CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > >> > >>> Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as > >>> drag-n-drop? > >> No, the one file I tried took over a minute before I got bored of counting. > > > > Sorry, I don't understand: is "C-x d" faster or slower than > > drag-n-drop? > > Slower. Ah, now I get it: you need to wait 11 seconds for visiting _a_single_file_ in that directory, is that right? > >> I wonder if vc-svn may be the culprit? How can I disable that? > > > > Try setting `vc-handled-backends' to nil. > > The gave me the following error on startup: > > Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `~/.emacs': > > Wrong type argument: symbolp, (RCS CVS SVN SCCS Bzr Git Hg Mtn Arch) Try in 'emacs -Q". After invoking "emacs -Q", manually set `vc-handled-backends' to nil, and then drag-n-drop that file. And trying this in "emacs -Q" is a good idea anyway, since the source of the slowdown may be in your ~/.emacs. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 11 11:28:26 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 18:28:26 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BISJfP014349 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:28:21 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 307F94F8076; Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A086E45.5030806@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:21 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <83y6t3xzsk.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83y6t3xzsk.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>>> Finally, does "C-x d" of the same directory take the same time as >>>>> drag-n-drop? >>>> No, the one file I tried took over a minute before I got bored of counting. >>> Sorry, I don't understand: is "C-x d" faster or slower than >>> drag-n-drop? >> Slower. > > Ah, now I get it: you need to wait 11 seconds for visiting > _a_single_file_ in that directory, is that right? No, the 11 seconds is for dragging and dropping a single file from Windows Explorer into Emacs. For a single file in that directory using C-x d, I waited for over a minute and then gave up counting. The file did eventually open some time later... > Try in 'emacs -Q". After invoking "emacs -Q", manually set > `vc-handled-backends' to nil, and then drag-n-drop that file. > > And trying this in "emacs -Q" is a good idea anyway, since the source > of the slowdown may be in your ~/.emacs. My .emacs is pretty sparse nowadays ;-) What does emacs -Q mean? How do I do this on Windows? runemacs.exe -Q in a DOS box or something else? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 11 11:41:45 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 18:41:45 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il (mtaout1.012.net.il [84.95.2.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BIfdnO018790 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 11:41:41 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KJH00E00T5TSR00@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:41:02 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.73.80]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KJH002P4T8CX590@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:41:01 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:41:03 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A086E45.5030806@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83ws8nxz28.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <83y6t3xzsk.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086E45.5030806@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:28:21 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > What does emacs -Q mean? It disables all customizations and in particular does not load your ~/.emacs init file. > How do I do this on Windows? runemacs.exe -Q in a DOS box or > something else? Yes, "runemacs -Q" in a DOS box. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Mon May 11 14:15:17 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 21:15:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BLFDVw001180 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:15:14 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIEADMyCEpLd+1m/2dsb2JhbACBUMsxhAIFhVk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,330,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="38421296" Received: from 75-119-237-102.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.237.102]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2009 17:15:07 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0AE257ED8; Mon, 11 May 2009 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Chris Withers Cc: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive Message-ID: References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:15:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> (Chris Withers's message of "Mon, 11 May 2009 19:11:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Try setting `vc-handled-backends' to nil. > The gave me the following error on startup: > Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `~/.emacs': > Wrong type argument: symbolp, (RCS CVS SVN SCCS Bzr Git Hg Mtn Arch) What Eli meant to say is (setq vc-handled-backends nil) not (set vc-handled-backends nil) Stefan From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 11 15:06:07 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2009 22:06:07 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4BM63SQ017491 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 15:06:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE3CC4F8076; Mon, 11 May 2009 23:06:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:06:10 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Monnier CC: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Try setting `vc-handled-backends' to nil. > >> The gave me the following error on startup: > >> Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `~/.emacs': > >> Wrong type argument: symbolp, (RCS CVS SVN SCCS Bzr Git Hg Mtn Arch) > > What Eli meant to say is > > (setq vc-handled-backends nil) With this, drag'n'drop time isstil about 8 seconds, and C-X d time is about 12 seconds. I guess it must be something else then... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 11 21:49:16 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 May 2009 04:49:16 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4C4nDvF004433 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 11 May 2009 21:49:14 -0700 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M3jvT-0005Et-VQ; Tue, 12 May 2009 00:49:11 -0400 From: Eli Zaretskii To: Chris Withers CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> (message from Chris Withers on Mon, 11 May 2009 23:06:10 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:49:11 -0400 > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:06:10 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Eli Zaretskii > > > (setq vc-handled-backends nil) > > With this, drag'n'drop time isstil about 8 seconds, and C-X d time is > about 12 seconds. > > I guess it must be something else then... I guess it is. How large is the file, and what's in it? Is it plain ASCII text or does it have non-ASCII characters? if the latter, can you tell more about the contents? What mode does Emacs turn on when you visit that file? Next, can you copy the file to your local filesystem and visit it from there? If you do, how much time does it take then? Finally, is the time to visit the file with "C-x C-f" comparable with the time needed when you drag-n-drop it? How about the time to visit it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? From chris@simplistix.co.uk Sat May 16 09:23:22 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 May 2009 16:23:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4GGNIdh016776 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:20 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4371E4F8076; Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:15 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How large is the file, and what's in it? Is it plain ASCII text or > does it have non-ASCII characters? if the latter, can you tell more > about the contents? It's a 12kB .py file... > What mode does Emacs turn on when you visit that file? Python Mode, but it doesn't matter, same problem if I open a similarly small text file. > Next, can you copy the file to your local filesystem and visit it from > there? Yes. > If you do, how much time does it take then? Instantaneous. > Finally, is the time to visit the file with "C-x C-f" comparable with > the time needed when you drag-n-drop it? Yes, it's just as slow. > How about the time to visit > it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? No, this is instantaneous. cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Sat May 16 10:48:17 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 May 2009 17:48:17 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il (mtaout4.012.net.il [84.95.2.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4GHm948010872 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 16 May 2009 10:48:11 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJQ00500ZZLVH00@i_mtaout3.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sat, 16 May 2009 20:48:03 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.73.80]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJR0069D0420Q40@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sat, 16 May 2009 20:48:03 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:48:02 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:15 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > > How about the time to visit > > it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? > > No, this is instantaneous. Is "M-x find-file-literally RET" instantaneous when the file is on the networked drive as well? From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 18 03:16:34 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 10:16:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4IAGUhZ032500 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:16:31 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A48534F8075; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:34 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:15 +0100 >> From: Chris Withers >> CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com >> >>> How about the time to visit >>> it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? >> No, this is instantaneous. > > Is "M-x find-file-literally RET" instantaneous when the file is on the > networked drive as well? Yes Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From lennart.borgman@gmail.com Mon May 18 03:37:18 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 10:37:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-fx0-f160.google.com (mail-fx0-f160.google.com [209.85.220.160]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4IAbEvH005280 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:37:16 -0700 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so4287247fxm.1 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XPbwuflABYwr6LfyHrkAZY+DXRU82P4hCUtbWcA4vh8=; b=dcCy8Oh5Ksyh+FwVjG1zcEy1QXukqYhDH2o5IsI2AnU6/yamhpexbio7/EG4ov+0NQ OY72EVBRbuf9ix52aLEsg5S+tPyPkI9990oPtCkOH9auIRs7ZDDsKHUTm/Aj/N7i7q1E lSiGmvx6HyZIWaHDasvgWV2Xbnv/XueqeV1fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wGSXBl1WRt8XfTSgkTlYVpZCNvCzVd3Ye1Y6+1/2AOYLCNmo51iyLz3d1zPmV+1/0x UHMi9MHACWbfHpkVDKx2RFXlWFcE1lRx4h7kllvBL7f+NBu2unlKs43hakSwutkCc19K c/LNsvtCCCtFIYoR6Ok1IJxo++eEkY/4EfN8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.69 with SMTP id b5mr4190324fas.54.1242643028867; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:37:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:37:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive From: Lennart Borgman To: Chris Withers , 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> >>> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:23:15 +0100 >>> From: Chris Withers >>> CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com >>> >>>> How about the time to visit >>>> it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? >>> >>> No, this is instantaneous. >> >> Is "M-x find-file-literally RET" instantaneous when the file is on the >> networked drive as well? > > Yes Could it be that Emacs has the wrong default directory internally when searching for some files? (Perhaps fonts?) From jasonrumney@gmail.com Mon May 18 05:42:14 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 12:42:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([124.13.7.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm8562098wff.4.2009.05.18.05.42.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 May 2009 05:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4A115785.2020807@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:41:41 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lennart Borgman , 3252@debbugs.gnu.org CC: Chris Withers Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lennart Borgman wrote: > Could it be that Emacs has the wrong default directory internally when > searching for some files? (Perhaps fonts?) > Emacs doesn't search for fonts directly on Windows. I am pretty sure Windows itself only searches in a fixed location for fonts, otherwise other applications would have the same slowdown whenever they enumerate fonts when the default directory is a network drive. From lennart.borgman@gmail.com Mon May 18 05:49:31 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 12:49:31 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-fx0-f160.google.com (mail-fx0-f160.google.com [209.85.220.160]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4ICnQOR010372 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 05:49:27 -0700 Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so4389558fxm.1 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pOiu6xCxRUQBkJuX0lrnsEFcHAQjWn7wSHjuZFOEL2k=; b=YNI7m6ffCSwQpH4RZG+9cga6LacX3i4Ue3LOK+t2XzJA0H4ntXcELvhet0E7OaHLzA UP2SSKZMbSBp+K2UYejoY8zY5NKo67aveoP/UxmbOxDFiLeuTUifgZcFSJjovw2gWRHb Fe1A9fdHjhQyhX3xbOK4X1MYpgmb2u+wsVfbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C68A0/yFyyjEVSkt4eRN6nTZVtK5RSatCQM/DlSSrA5iBBoSVlmvNtQopI6zdMNIDL Qs7HHAYRXOm/qYQJKyZwg8XHrWP+q19kQDQ4ThxyyH6zyXODeC7OojapiJT+ChZZW0u3 knZY1dBAOyoM5u3FIS6PEWjO0rljkn1s6r6UQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.207 with SMTP id f15mr4242859faq.90.1242650960147; Mon, 18 May 2009 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A115785.2020807@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <4A115785.2020807@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:49:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive From: Lennart Borgman To: Jason Rumney Cc: 3252@debbugs.gnu.org, Chris Withers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Jason Rumney wrote: > Lennart Borgman wrote: >> >> Could it be that Emacs has the wrong default directory internally when >> searching for some files? (Perhaps fonts?) >> > > Emacs doesn't search for fonts directly on Windows. I am pretty sure Windows > itself only searches in a fixed location for fonts, otherwise other > applications would have the same slowdown whenever they enumerate fonts when > the default directory is a network drive. But maybe only Emacs handles the default directory in a way that might interfere? From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 18 11:19:24 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 18:19:24 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4IIJITf009729 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 11:19:20 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJU00E00QUD3500@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:19:12 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.115.215]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJU00ETMQVZZQS0@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Mon, 18 May 2009 21:19:12 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:19:13 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:34 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > >>> How about the time to visit > >>> it with "M-x find-file-literally RET"? > >> No, this is instantaneous. > > > > Is "M-x find-file-literally RET" instantaneous when the file is on the > > networked drive as well? > > Yes OK. I asked before, but I don't think you answered: does this file include non-ASCII characters? Also, what happens if you use "C-x C-f" to visit an identical file on the networked drive, but whose name ends with a .txt extension? do you see any significant change in the time it takes? If visiting a .txt file is also instantaneous, then please tell what version of Python mode do you use. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Mon May 18 12:13:34 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 19:13:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, PENISACCENT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4IJDUoK025630 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 12:13:32 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4580C4F8076; Mon, 18 May 2009 20:13:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:13:37 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Is "M-x find-file-literally RET" instantaneous when the file is on the >>> networked drive as well? >> Yes > > OK. I asked before, but I don't think you answered: does this file > include non-ASCII characters? No, it doesn't. > Also, what happens if you use "C-x C-f" to visit an identical file on > the networked drive, but whose name ends with a .txt extension? Interestingly, that's prettymuch instantaneous, as it should be. However, a .cfg file (which openis in Conf[unix]) mode is just as slow as the .py file. > see any significant change in the time it takes? If visiting a .txt > file is also instantaneous, then please tell what version of Python > mode do you use. I use whatever ships with 23.0.93. How can I check the version for definite? Also, what mode is used to open .cfg files? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From eliz@gnu.org Mon May 18 13:31:58 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 May 2009 20:31:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, PENISACCENT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4IKVrtR016758 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 13:31:54 -0700 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KJU00I00X0TX400@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Mon, 18 May 2009 23:31:44 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.115.215]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KJU007R6X0IF4F0@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Mon, 18 May 2009 23:31:40 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:31:29 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive In-reply-to: <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chris Withers Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83pre6p2zi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> > Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:13:37 +0100 > From: Chris Withers > CC: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > > Also, what happens if you use "C-x C-f" to visit an identical file on > > the networked drive, but whose name ends with a .txt extension? > > Interestingly, that's prettymuch instantaneous, as it should be. > However, a .cfg file (which openis in Conf[unix]) mode is just as slow > as the .py file. Can you try using elp.el to profile python.el and conf-mode.el in the slow cases? The instructions are at the beginning of elp.el. > > see any significant change in the time it takes? If visiting a .txt > > file is also instantaneous, then please tell what version of Python > > mode do you use. > > I use whatever ships with 23.0.93. How can I check the version for definite? If you are sure you are using python.el that comes with Emacs 23.0.93 and that there's no stray python-SOMETHING.el on your load-path, then no need to dig deeper. > Also, what mode is used to open .cfg files? conf-mode.el, I'd presume. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Mon May 18 19:11:58 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 May 2009 02:11:58 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, PENISACCENT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4J2BrFm016613 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 18 May 2009 19:11:55 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAE+yEUpMCovv/2dsb2JhbACBT8t6hAEFhWo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,212,1241409600"; d="scan'208";a="38744686" Received: from 76-10-139-239.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.139.239]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2009 22:11:48 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D02827F29; Mon, 18 May 2009 22:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Chris Withers Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive Message-ID: References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:12:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> (Chris Withers's message of "Mon, 18 May 2009 20:13:37 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Interestingly, that's prettymuch instantaneous, as it should be. > However, a .cfg file (which openis in Conf[unix]) mode is just as slow as > the .py file. Great: the mode used for .cfg files is much simpler than for Python files, so it should make it easier to find the problem. What happens if you enable "Options => Enter Debugger on Quit/C-g" in the menu and than hit C-g during the 10s delay (try it at different moments of this 10s window, to see if/how the resulting backtrace changes)? Stefan From chris@simplistix.co.uk Wed May 20 03:34:59 2009 Received: (at 3252) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 10:34:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, PENISACCENT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4KAYtPV009412 for <3252@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 20 May 2009 03:34:56 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CF524F8076; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:34:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:35:04 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Monnier CC: Eli Zaretskii , 3252@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Interestingly, that's prettymuch instantaneous, as it should be. >> However, a .cfg file (which openis in Conf[unix]) mode is just as slow as >> the .py file. > > Great: the mode used for .cfg files is much simpler than for Python > files, so it should make it easier to find the problem. > > What happens if you enable "Options => Enter Debugger on Quit/C-g" in > the menu and than hit C-g during the 10s delay (try it at different > moments of this 10s window, to see if/how the resulting backtrace > changes)? Okay, I enabled the debugger as requested, on trying to drag and drop, hitting C-g just cause the bell to sound, nothing happened and the delay wasn't interrupted. In fact, when the file was eventually opened, the debugger didn't even pick up and give me a backtrace. Opening another .cfg file with C-x C-f also had a bit of the bell-not-debugger problem when hitting C-g, but it did eventually give me the following backtrace: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) locate-dominating-file("//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg" ".dir-locals.el") dir-locals-find-file("//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg") hack-dir-local-variables() hack-local-variables() normal-mode(t) after-find-file(nil t) find-file-noselect-1(# "//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg" nil nil "//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg" ((134283655 . 49251) 105972995)) find-file-noselect("../buildout.cfg" nil nil t) find-file("../buildout.cfg" t) call-interactively(find-file nil nil) cheers, Chris - be warned, I know no lisp ;-) -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From jasonrumney@gmail.com Wed May 20 05:53:03 2009 Received: (at 3252-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 12:53:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([124.13.7.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm3046363wfa.35.2009.05.20.05.52.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 May 2009 05:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:52:26 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Withers , 3252-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Withers wrote: > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) > locate-dominating-file("//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg" > ".dir-locals.el") Thanks, there was a / missing from the regexp in locate-dominating-stop-dir-regexp, so the search wasn't actually terminating at the root of UNC drives, instead a fruitless and time consuming search for a machine on the network called ".dir-locals.el" would occur. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Wed May 20 06:00:21 2009 Received: (at 3252-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 13:00:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4KD0HrT021221 for <3252-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 20 May 2009 06:00:18 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80F6C4F8076; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:00:16 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A13FEEB.2050201@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:00:27 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Rumney CC: 3252-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Rumney wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) >> locate-dominating-file("//Server2/chris/folder/file.cfg" >> ".dir-locals.el") > > Thanks, there was a / missing from the regexp in > locate-dominating-stop-dir-regexp, so the search wasn't actually > terminating at the root of UNC drives, instead a fruitless and time > consuming search for a machine on the network called ".dir-locals.el" > would occur. Interesting. Does Emacs have an automated unit test suite? The last couple of bugs I've filed all appear to have been funny little things like this which I'd expect unit tests to catch... Anyway, what version of emacs 23 will this fix land in and when will it be released? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From jasonrumney@gmail.com Wed May 20 06:10:09 2009 Received: (at 3252-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 13:10:09 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([124.13.7.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm525824wfg.25.2009.05.20.06.09.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 May 2009 06:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4A140109.3040407@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:09:29 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Withers CC: 3252-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> <4A13FEEB.2050201@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A13FEEB.2050201@simplistix.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Withers wrote: > Interesting. > > Does Emacs have an automated unit test suite? > The last couple of bugs I've filed all appear to have been funny > little things like this which I'd expect unit tests to catch... There is nothing magic about automated test suites that makes them catch bugs like this. Someone still needs to write the test cases and configure machines, and in this case networks, to run them. From chris@simplistix.co.uk Wed May 20 06:12:18 2009 Received: (at 3252-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 13:12:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from server1.simplistix.co.uk (server1.simplistix.co.uk [89.151.125.140]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4KDCEvC025654 for <3252-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 20 May 2009 06:12:15 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (cust162-dsl93-89-128.idnet.net [93.89.128.162]) by server1.simplistix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6E994F8076; Wed, 20 May 2009 14:12:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A1401B9.90802@simplistix.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:12:25 +0100 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Rumney CC: 3252-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> <4A13FEEB.2050201@simplistix.co.uk> <4A140109.3040407@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <4A140109.3040407@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Rumney wrote: > Chris Withers wrote: >> Interesting. >> >> Does Emacs have an automated unit test suite? >> The last couple of bugs I've filed all appear to have been funny >> little things like this which I'd expect unit tests to catch... > > There is nothing magic about automated test suites that makes them catch > bugs like this. Someone still needs to write the test cases and > configure machines, and in this case networks, to run them. I'll take that as a "no" then ;-) What about a release date? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From jasonrumney@gmail.com Wed May 20 06:26:45 2009 Received: (at 3252-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 May 2009 13:26:45 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([124.13.7.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm71411wfd.21.2009.05.20.06.26.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 May 2009 06:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4A1404EC.7010200@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:26:04 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Withers CC: 3252-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#3252: 23.0.93; extremely slow to open file on windows network drive References: <4A07519E.1000704@simplistix.co.uk> <8363g8z6cn.fsf@gnu.org> <4A07E37B.2050806@simplistix.co.uk> <831vqvzf5e.fsf@gnu.org> <4A086A53.9030506@simplistix.co.uk> <4A08A152.2060101@simplistix.co.uk> <4A0EE873.6000701@simplistix.co.uk> <83bpptq6r1.fsf@gnu.org> <4A113582.3020004@simplistix.co.uk> <83vdnyp93y.fsf@gnu.org> <4A11B361.1000200@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13DCD8.2000600@simplistix.co.uk> <4A13FD0A.5070306@gnu.org> <4A13FEEB.2050201@simplistix.co.uk> <4A140109.3040407@gnu.org> <4A1401B9.90802@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A1401B9.90802@simplistix.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Withers wrote: > Jason Rumney wrote: >> There is nothing magic about automated test suites that makes them >> catch bugs like this. Someone still needs to write the test cases and >> configure machines, and in this case networks, to run them. > > I'll take that as a "no" then ;-) Not quite a no; http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/test/README?root=emacs&view=markup But the point that someone needs to write the test cases still stands, as in a little over a year there are still only tests for the byte compiler's handling of arithmetic functions, icalendar.el and parts of newsticker.el > What about a release date? 23.0.94 is due to be released today, but I don't know if my checkin was already too late to make the release. From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:39:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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