From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:40:44 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#32507 <32507@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#32507 <32507@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style Reply-To: bug#32507 <32507@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:40:44 +0000 retitle 32507 27.0.50; text-quoting-style reassign 32507 emacs submitter 32507 Helmut Eller severity 32507 wishlist tag 32507 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 23 06:59:28 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2018 10:59:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnKp-0006pe-UT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:59:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnKn-0006pR-Ph for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:59:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnKc-0000pA-Cf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:59:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnKc-0000nO-3T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:59:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnKY-0007vf-IM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:59:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnJx-0000LG-Hq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:58:36 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]:53084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsnJx-0000Kv-B1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 06:58:33 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id y139-v6so4749383wmc.2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 03:58:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=et8aBTSRKIBTZNt0bUr2rGLv+jSK0VQUJL2DLnk5lyY=; b=GlROUTL7UHnNqINwJm/zguNN/C8gygnGh0zbUFNU1mjxy6bzxYYWiL9JbCneht3pK6 /LW85IhZsvklKHfPi8DoX//rE7ippp4jJB9xWGgeFhWy3RDLWAP0AVr40mbDuSilrkt9 WZTvSAzwJGdA3cXcGmb+rRyO9t19MLNgdujQrHFMryJVjHyNSKofEgZw161gGfBWoCeq Z6+X2XXO9wFJ0rqrQUbw7ix4wL5Jp7W996hJKzhABhmijVlTK2xZuzWJnfu/Aas7QU4u KhbjfTEpaN00lJA0nU/Sv/O0hDIzAX3R/rMwRykTleOIVeDqAJB11E93yQ1EOd15xLqQ gF5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=et8aBTSRKIBTZNt0bUr2rGLv+jSK0VQUJL2DLnk5lyY=; b=RxY6eU160a9z8nZNMSXp3mVd7F13Qc9A9MPcNZiTwnZ4McsOV11UhPOfCyMvNFuwoL INagukZyd1vWOdwsnjeusaHZsiaMCeG8fRSdeFihXy+07ecyFkbECUIY9Cu4ohLALGfH j0LDPjXZu38USufPqayC3PwotKFp3R0Akht1CymBZRJu4XnzCYtbQHwsKmgxq46rFv3B SVRv+JSuDjLecXhaEAj9AQvetgbWrvdmA4X1voZf62QS/hc444VUQttbHwYHRLzg16tX zWBqxSSmLvQmn1DqZ/qjq2+1rC+dHQeaEyQErAYzo4oJphLEvHhlHIf2QaW1XuNI6rOT nP/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A0pn2QPxeZ8p52VjZMzZj0LaPeQvnGFAtNgZkSP7vRJATdzmxK j5z1IT8mcGfw7qrQ1ZJ6N5GezfNX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0Vdaau0stuo84jEHFkjonh3rV0jCHWmiotgQQuoxM/WlXCaxEeWIj1gFmIpZFYvlqopK2H9+uxw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:8955:: with SMTP id l82-v6mr4639234wmd.110.1535021912108; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 03:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caladan ([37.186.178.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t4-v6sm3640430wrb.45.2018.08.23.03.58.31 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Aug 2018 03:58:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Helmut Eller To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message. In other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which the following assertion does not fail: (let* (;(text-quoting-style ') (x "'`=C2=B4=E2=80=98=E2=80=99=E2=80=9A=E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D=E2=80=9E") (y (format-message x))) (cl-assert (equal x y))) In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 7, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11) of 2018-08-23 built on caladan Repository revision: a4a3c92e9de59bd0251f36326375cce898919edc Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) Configured using: 'configure --with-xpm=3Dno --with-gif=3Dno --with-tiff=3Dno --with-jpeg=3D= no --without-pop' Configured features: PNG SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 THREADS LIBSYSTEMD GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: C.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 23 09:53:22 2018 Received: (at 32507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2018 13:53:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsq38-0004mB-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:53:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsq36-0004lz-SA for 32507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:53:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsq2y-0006mE-D0 for 32507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:53:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsq2y-0006m0-9I; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:53:12 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3827 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fsq2x-0000ni-T5; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:53:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:52:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83d0u9b35y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Helmut Eller In-reply-to: (message from Helmut Eller on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32507 Cc: 32507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Helmut Eller > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200 > > There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message. In > other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which > the following assertion does not fail: > > (let* (;(text-quoting-style ') > (x "'`´‘’‚“”„") > (y (format-message x))) > (cl-assert (equal x y))) Seems to work for me with == grave. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 24 01:37:48 2018 Received: (at 32507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2018 05:37:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ft4n6-0004pp-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:37:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f47.google.com ([209.85.221.47]:44602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ft4n5-0004pc-6u for 32507@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:37:47 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f47.google.com with SMTP id v16-v6so6401595wro.11 for <32507@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Pssg4A1f0rHls7Hhfk3YMLR2GvP42GFIdg7ZbKuZeQ=; b=sUtLfR6HNajY62nLAbO05Ya781wZU7T5LYmpdgQDmrLv1RPKHnUOO7miVen8+yKmYw pjnv2tCxackRXT7l26Tj0UuDHIznEDoVEwNGFUxFKkj4A2gceuiazwQwV99pjHUDPVPU ACshO9mWSoFcppjCIPU9qGAzf/SlN1KrRreoK9MzEAxfOWAfjhuWCGDVn5VXgoupT6WV wO+9iqMKyWCWE0EHcqnmkHCRMex8mERhcSlnOoLfyJ6yXJHADduSDsXHMnBbHTFYRitq L+a75nLkWEorCPT7qIr5vvo+yuOjBe4AXg7nCbxllLMd+f9AvfPDG4UfuofSbdLK8Nqz eA8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Pssg4A1f0rHls7Hhfk3YMLR2GvP42GFIdg7ZbKuZeQ=; b=lS33Yg3CztBsMxs8hQQh4oniWZ4OeosEwWYqDYWzrJzNyVdY7Pgmhrus1c4rIUIP6K /AZX7OKPNfWZdI/waPyomrazDJYxKaabhTiuxoMzTSTeDzW9Fn2jSMmErBe5PnDc+PUy IlOYemIm4LqDoTaM/uqQ3Ln6TM12FHW1mJ7zclZBGxI46QJ5mDwCxMk7jSr1PYgTHZwm mCa5vcVdnk90JYN6v0uPW6CNGpcxnxd8VAMsFMs3Alh5ep9kJ5jO+/Y0HDSLWk/YDkWJ z+wsp4yB+FL0hV0TvUEV+pXXg0h7bpoAq069TxHQqVw8d1dGs593paQfFS+a8lfdeFxD Y8Og== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Dk7xJkDwg8aG2CifMopc3HdMIeZU/L2PkbcboDdHUFYX4h0pXo iS+9SOZIdVcepr9rtsMBstDGAKC6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYXWsqemW5S4Mlk/w/6BDI3mdL7vxlIg2N6mA1CJ8ghji3XAl0xNTcemFEZ80XfgnA3C5AzeQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:bd90:: with SMTP id l16-v6mr143258wrh.250.1535089061052; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caladan ([37.186.178.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 198-v6sm633966wmm.0.2018.08.23.22.37.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:37:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Helmut Eller To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style References: <83d0u9b35y.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:37:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83d0u9b35y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:52:57 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32507 Cc: 32507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Aug 23 2018, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Helmut Eller >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200 >>=20 >> There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message. In >> other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which >> the following assertion does not fail: >>=20 >> (let* (;(text-quoting-style ') >> (x "'`=C2=B4=E2=80=98=E2=80=99=E2=80=9A=E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D=E2=80= =9E") >> (y (format-message x))) >> (cl-assert (equal x y))) > > Seems to work for me with =3D=3D grave. Yes, indeed. I even had written a loop to try all possible values; must have been buggy. Sorry, for the noise. Helmut From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 24 02:42:38 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2018 06:42:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ft5np-0006OJ-QL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:42:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50635) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ft5no-0006O2-8i for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:42:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ft5nf-0007KP-Rv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:42:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ft5nf-0007KJ-Nw; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:42:27 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4276 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ft5nf-0000dR-Aw; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 02:42:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:42:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83mutc9sfu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Helmut Eller In-reply-to: (message from Helmut Eller on Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:37:38 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style References: <83d0u9b35y.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 32507-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) tags 32507 notabug thanks > From: Helmut Eller > Cc: 32507@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:37:38 +0200 > > >> (let* (;(text-quoting-style ') > >> (x "'`´‘’‚“”„") > >> (y (format-message x))) > >> (cl-assert (equal x y))) > > > > Seems to work for me with == grave. > > Yes, indeed. I even had written a loop to try all possible values; must > have been buggy. > > Sorry, for the noise. Well, it's hard to blame you because the value that makes this possible is non-intuitive. Perhaps we should have some more intuitive alias, like 'literal or something. Thanks, I'm closing the bug. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:40:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator