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27.0.50; text-quoting-style

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From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200

There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message.  In
other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which
the following assertion does not fail:

(let* (;(text-quoting-style '<something>)
       (x "'`´‘’‚“”„")
       (y (format-message x)))
  (cl-assert (equal x y)))





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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 32507 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:52:57 +0300

> From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200
> 
> There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message.  In
> other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which
> the following assertion does not fail:
> 
> (let* (;(text-quoting-style '<something>)
>        (x "'`´‘’‚“”„")
>        (y (format-message x)))
>   (cl-assert (equal x y)))

Seems to work for me with <something> == grave.

Message #11 received at 32507 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 32507 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:37:38 +0200

On Thu, Aug 23 2018, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:58:30 +0200
>> 
>> There is no option to disable quote substitution in format-message.  In
>> other words, there should be a value for text-quoting-style for which
>> the following assertion does not fail:
>> 
>> (let* (;(text-quoting-style '<something>)
>>        (x "'`´‘’‚“”„")
>>        (y (format-message x)))
>>   (cl-assert (equal x y)))
>
> Seems to work for me with <something> == grave.

Yes, indeed.  I even had written a loop to try all possible values; must
have been buggy.

Sorry, for the noise.

Helmut

Message #18 received at 32507-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 32507-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32507: 27.0.50; text-quoting-style
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:42:13 +0300

tags 32507 notabug
thanks

> From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: 32507 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:37:38 +0200
> 
> >> (let* (;(text-quoting-style '<something>)
> >>        (x "'`´‘’‚“”„")
> >>        (y (format-message x)))
> >>   (cl-assert (equal x y)))
> >
> > Seems to work for me with <something> == grave.
> 
> Yes, indeed.  I even had written a loop to try all possible values; must
> have been buggy.
> 
> Sorry, for the noise.

Well, it's hard to blame you because the value that makes this
possible is non-intuitive.  Perhaps we should have some more intuitive
alias, like 'literal or something.

Thanks, I'm closing the bug.

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