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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:52:00 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Apologies - here is the OS information: $ cat /proc/version Linux version 3.10.0-862.3.3.el7.x86_64 (builder@kbuilder.dev.centos.org) (gcc version 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-28) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Fri Jun 15 04:15:27 UTC 2018 Many thanks LTC -------- Forwarded Message -------- Dear GNU folks I believe I have found a bug in ls in the GNU coreutils v. 8.22. My colleague and I found that 'ls' reported a different date for a gzipped log file when run with different options in a directory containing a large amount of data (1000MB). In the full listing we saw that date next to a different file in the other listing. `ls -ltcr` seems to be the one showing the correct date here. I like to use `ls -ltc` because it's my initials. My colleague was running `ls -lrt`. $ ls -ltcr ludo* -rw-rw-rw- 1 pax pax 237817 Jul 20 06:53 ludovic.tolhurst-cleaver_sabstt.com-log-20180720.gz $ ls -lrt ludo* -rw-rw-rw- 1 pax pax 237817 Jul 18 12:30 ludovic.tolhurst-cleaver_sabstt.com-log-20180720.gz I'm afraid I do not have the capability to test this on any later version of the coreutils. Thanks & regards Ludo Tolhurst-Cleaver Perl Developer SABS TT From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#32291: Fwd: ls -ltcr and ls -lrt report different modification dates Resent-From: Assaf Gordon Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 08:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32291 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic Tolhurst-Cleaver , 32291@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32291.154719611320008 (code B ref 32291); Fri, 11 Jan 2019 08:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 32291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2019 08:41:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ghsO0-0005CZ-MB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:41:52 -0500 Received: from mail-pg1-f180.google.com ([209.85.215.180]:36570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ghsNy-0005CG-Dw; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 03:41:50 -0500 Received: by mail-pg1-f180.google.com with SMTP id n2so6048099pgm.3; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 00:41:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m7nxt2kV2AHFSQvPfDflVhq/Npiok7hTwzHhGkMgZuU=; b=INe53T+N6nRJxyJU17K0HeiGVuv8zY8ehg2LbtA1W+aNWRRMjay8mOMqJ7HyF1+TRz 8hhNcPGb8UzqUx5zj0PWUKEHpIQtA3f/HHbC/tiSYh/DfHlcE1o1JQi+z5bV1Xio8UeR Fph01Fa1ej464dunOiAtmMWavFyeTOIJHyVEIKglkbZaNDWYwMa9fSr4X/hbQuMSWttN 7H7n4IidWjJ4og1NlDD3UqNtXsQPXrhZY4qiD3hAE8CZ/bv/yjeM/nJYGXz9tQ49yHAu 9Vij/pFw1U6cWPpAEN6OwrzUg0KA6gTLfRK8R3sTJ4+HuAC3hjAPn0x1/7QmAgW04rVU gsNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m7nxt2kV2AHFSQvPfDflVhq/Npiok7hTwzHhGkMgZuU=; b=pRGIsOhOh7BWxE+jWPWA99if85Sf32dbJbwp2gaOhwHjICtVe1JI3hE9D8de13H9wS BlhmH+cOpEbMxUcL4ayRs/ZeS6lBBm2z1YAfsZNfy/3d697mrb4oZQ+h4fZ5MbNl/Km0 ykiFpLxcKT2VbG34P+qHrFbAl53cwaaRm5i0B1lsThn7PJJ0XH0EbBJpHbpCL0ZMatU+ 1VW5lQesbdSoYtmfNupy7jhXKppkqHVP23+2vo7W6Zj/GKO1b/HY3L39U2n8w49HSECr p+2INw2omPcZX6Kw2yRle0fH6VIBw4Xqe9ueJyMaMpTxRip7qQibNpHomSjBENV0cklJ HabA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfip0H1LSDPsmaG6BsamqeCzh3I8y1/23ITDYAwGLUZmPilVk1O CtFsju/yIShrMJDk4IEQJSlIxuu4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN43EQOcwDDv8mN/SInLKYYTO4SctsF52r2tqXX7i5SG24oNJbPD79cojI2QDq2D4zxZzBDUzw== X-Received: by 2002:a62:2cf:: with SMTP id 198mr13724620pfc.67.1547196103050; Fri, 11 Jan 2019 00:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomato.housegordon.com (moose.housegordon.com. [184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c67sm103882660pfg.170.2019.01.11.00.41.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Jan 2019 00:41:41 -0800 (PST) References: From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: <134d35f5-4ba2-2afa-d7f0-51c6b0ab763d@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 01:41:40 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 32291 notabug close 32291 stop Hello, Seems your message was not replied to in 6 months - sorry about that. On 2018-07-27 3:48 a.m., Ludovic Tolhurst-Cleaver wrote: > > `ls -ltcr` seems to be the one showing the correct date here. I like to > use `ls -ltc` because it's my initials. My colleague was running `ls -lrt`. > > > $ ls -ltcr ludo* > > -rw-rw-rw- 1 pax pax 237817 Jul 20 06:53 > ludovic.tolhurst-cleaver_sabstt.com-log-20180720.gz > > $ ls -lrt ludo* > > -rw-rw-rw- 1 pax pax 237817 Jul 18 12:30 > ludovic.tolhurst-cleaver_sabstt.com-log-20180720.gz The manual explains the "-c" option: === $ ls --help -c with -lt: sort by, and show, ctime (time of last modification of file status information); === What you are seeing is the file's status-change timestamp (with "-c") versus the file's content modification timestamp (without "-c"). You can view all timestamps at once with: stat ludo* As such, I'm closing this as "not a bug", but discussion can continue by replying to this thread. regards, - assaf