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When I fire up the executable with `src/emacs -Q` over X11 it shows an empty window with nomin= ibuffer. See the following screenshot: https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Uf4m.png I built Emacs without `gnutls`, but that should be possible. Do I missany e= ssential libraries? According to a stack exchange question (https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/41021/emacs-26-1-rc1-display-iss= ues-over-ssh-x11-with-xming-vcxsrv)the issue might be related to the X-tool= kit I'm using (GTK2). Does Emacs26 not support GTK2? The X server I use is = MobaXterm 3.0 on Windows 7Enterprise. I cannot test with another X server. The output of my `./configure --without-gnutls` is stored in a GitHubgist: https://gist.github.com/halloleo/46808e9574f375f1e320f5e13c068296. Theoutpu= t of the `make all` is in this gist: https://gist.github.com/halloleo/c4a4ac53c047d972b6f7b91a0240167f ## Notes: 1. The build runs fine in a terminal via `src/emacs -Q -nw` (**That=E2=80= =99s how I generated the bug report output below!**) 2. I have built Emacs 25 on the same machine and it runs successfullyover X= 11. In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23) of 2= 018-06-29 built on ACCRAD01 System Description: Oracle Linux Server release 6.9 Configured using: 'configure --without-gnutls' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUXLIBXM= L2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 THREADS Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache epa derived epgepg-c= onfig gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encodemail-pars= e rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils term/xterm xterm time-date elec-pair mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hookvc-= hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dndtool-bar= dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet laokore= an japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charpropcase= -table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffercl-prelo= aded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtkx-t= oolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 97738 9072) (symbols 48 20313 2) (miscs 40 33 93) (strings 32 28225 1194) (string-bytes 1 746234) (vectors 16 12015) (vector-slots 8 446631 9182) (floats 8 53 260) (intervals 56 204 0) (buffers 992 11) (heap 1024 15148 697)) --_----------=_15304963543039150 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I just built Emacs 26.1 on Centos = 6 (RHEL 6.9). When I fire up the

executable with `src/emacs -Q` over X11 it show= s an empty window with no

minibuffer. See the following screenshot:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Uf4m.png


I built Emacs without `gnutls`, but that should be possible. Do I mi= ss

an= y essential libraries?


According to a stack exchange question

<= span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12px">(https://emacs.stackexchange.com/qu= estions/41021/emacs-26-1-rc1-display-issues-over-ssh-x11-with-xming-vcxsrv<= /a>)

= the issue might be related to the X-toolkit I'm using (GTK2). Does Emacs

26 not = support GTK2? The X server I use is MobaXterm 3.0 on Windows 7

Enterprise. I ca= nnot test with another X server.

=

The output of my `./configure -= -without-gnutls` is stored in a GitHub

<= p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font= -weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;">gist:

https://gist.github.com/halloleo/46= 808e9574f375f1e320f5e13c068296. The

=

output of the `make all` is in this gi= st:

<= a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/halloleo/c4a4ac53c047d972b6f7b91a0240167f= " class=3D"">https://gist.github.com/halloleo/c4a4ac53c047d972b6f7b91a02401= 67f


## Notes:

<= br>

1. The build runs fine in a ter= minal via `src/emacs -Q -nw` (**That=E2=80=99s how I generated the bug repo= rt output below!**)


2. I have built Emacs 25 on the same machine = and it runs successfully

over X11.

<= br>

In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86= _64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23)

=

=  of 2018-06-29 built on ACCRAD01

System Description: Oracle Linux Server releas= e 6.9


Configured using:

 'configure --without-gnutls'


Configured features:

XPM JPEG TIFF G= IF PNG SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUX

LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLI= B TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 THREADS

<= p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font= -weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 13.= 8px;">

Important settings:=

  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8=

  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix


Major mode: Lisp Interaction


= Minor modes in effect:

  tooltip-mode: t

  global-eldoc-mode: t

<= span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">  eldoc-mode: t

&n= bsp; electric-indent-mode: t

 = mouse-wheel-mode: t

<= span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">  = tool-bar-mode: t

  menu-bar-m= ode: t

  file-name-shadow-mode= : t

<= span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">  global-font-lock-mode: t=

  font-lock-mode: t<= /span>

  auto-composition-mode: t

  auto-encryption-mode: t=

  auto-compression-mode: t<= /span>

  line-number-mode: t

=   transient-mark-mode: t=


Load-path shadow= s:

No= ne found.


Features:

(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny= seq byte-opt gv

bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib dired dired-loa= ddefs

format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg

epg-conf= ig gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode

mail-parse rfc22= 31 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047

<= span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util m= ail-prsvr mail-utils term/xterm xterm

time-date elec-pair mule-util tooltip el= doc electric uniquify ediff-hook

vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-wi= n term/common-win x-dnd

tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-= list replace

newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page

<= span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12px">menu-b= ar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock=

font-lock syntax= facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic

= cham georgian utf-8-lang mi= sc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao

korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 he= brew greek romanian slovak czech

european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese compo= site charscript charprop

case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev = obarray minibuffer

cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp = files

text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule<= /span>

custom widge= t hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify<= /span>

dynamic-setting system-fon= t-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk<= br>

x-toolkit x multi-tty make-netw= ork-process emacs)


Memory information:

((conses 16 97738 9072)<= /span>

 (symbols 48 20313 2)<= /span>

 (miscs 40 33 93)

 (strings 32 28225 1194)
=

 (string-bytes 1 746234)

<= p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font= -weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;">&n= bsp;(vectors 16 12015)

 (vector-slots 8 446631 9182)

 (floats 8 53 260)

 (interva= ls 56 204 0)

 (buffers 992 11)=

 (heap 1024 15148 697))


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When I fire up the > executable with `src/emacs -Q` over X11 it shows an empty window with no > minibuffer. See the following screenshot: > https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Uf4m.png > > I built Emacs without `gnutls`, but that should be possible. Do I miss > any essential libraries? Try disabling double-buffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do that). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 03 03:21:01 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2018 07:21:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faFcT-0003f2-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 03:21:01 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:47471) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faFcS-0003eg-JI for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 03:21:01 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AB821813; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 03:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 03 Jul 2018 03:21:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=p3p9SRPC7+pJlLxzawplWNYhcxQi6 PJNAYcRA+gumJo=; b=gY4KlHWfP8DvQIuNcOa9eHXM0mA8ir5ULsyty/XzlI2aa zRb0cMs9z9kb7kPNSDuIHLFXMyzOwRWHJ+VEE7yAgz0UDVYPE7X89jlEBa/MTTj6 DccdmMA9FN46K8zp+uwd6/JPq8X5W2aitCbK7taUNkrWXzkl6/0ZWONWad2eqqyv BCHItHqRLqx07eWAO3Q+25NF8BLzjMi3OVRjJ6oWSfjVDWR8wfP6l4NNqLOhK1Ar 7oE5hhS5CYqUTuoiQMEDWd0PqNFkfX3ArarbV5UncP3AtoaMN2B7XC2jO7ChMMdO vOR4SSvlXXgRt2UcwkeQU6ep+XVm1KUeGacWAc3AA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=p3p9SR PC7+pJlLxzawplWNYhcxQi6PJNAYcRA+gumJo=; b=DThlUL5eZCpoeVsnSiXYGO RmZZtq0jF1rfrf92pP/9ddU2ZT1U1T2iwkyuXGQKi6WWRHoUi3ovvr+VH/zti4aC VOT2JVPW8QgXvK1U9M67NQEEETrzOdemhp1ArHBFWb8gM+FEjYzJUXU9fN+pNDxp 8D+4l2GBQB7ewblnf/KhpU+U/jMGmxQjbA97hoi08hHmppBrxUkWRG2GcLzwTzIv l2SIycCFq4/I913a4ZNq4aCXX9/13l6BM+rM2djwfX+gE8sKEFcjpfCQywPCvoe/ vNf8NetyMNOji5uVIeBThfWpagfuYptdgRM98PuUzPrvbXDebFX/+mnjgeusePUQ == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id C5A499E48F; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 03:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net To: Eli Zaretskii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0d8ea36c Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window In-Reply-To: <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:20:59 +1000 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > > I just built Emacs 26.1 on Centos 6 (RHEL 6.9). When I fire up the > > executable with `src/emacs -Q` over X11 it shows an empty window with no > > minibuffer. See the following screenshot: > > > https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Uf4m.png > > > > I built Emacs without `gnutls`, but that should be possible. Do I miss > > any essential libraries? > > Try disabling double-buffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do that). Thanks Eli. That works. :-) Any way to *build* Emacs so that it disables by default double-buffering? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 03 05:20:25 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2018 09:20:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faHU0-0006hk-Sz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 05:20:25 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f196.google.com ([209.85.128.196]:40961) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faHTz-0006hX-U3 for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 05:20:24 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f196.google.com with SMTP id h10-v6so1173344wrq.8 for <32032@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uiosM/UXhkN5xST1rrGYkOxrS3ekX6wXxkoe0uaa6Fo=; b=SxWDzsrn/pkTobYz7oYbfNVgIuh2ycMjKzq5FoKfQtiGwIeQlcEglaOJgEEdndIexG t1UJJ1IU81lTYncgatVwgAVkevATbD+z4c4qgqOcg+PPwkTRAGb5i+yuvw4RsMVwPDxi bTI7hOhwL2y6fo6LB4oneiaQrT7bouaBsIsuo+D77TJtDedEmRooXHFYOfGbK6HQVG7X pzVLD+MPJVujiSCVWVOa4guEpck6mX+0VCTu7vPhUk6Tj5XvXpo57LnjZm5dCI3ecHsq HYA5mLr0rF+UVMEmRyERhSoFmzJiCHHMbyB1DcE+3zoqlreLh1hoIdNzI0sFhOfguA2C PS7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uiosM/UXhkN5xST1rrGYkOxrS3ekX6wXxkoe0uaa6Fo=; b=WZbdgFcIePq/9wCI+d8//lS8kWd1hQws5S7yjV50pDbiT+eAWIwgfQYPoUrp6sBXr7 FavfM0He/xohYRY5MSAKvtetpRN217svUSjTAy+QXxtuM8lJm3ht7WjLzTupdMXjIkiF /LZfByU49RrpmSoQxJ7YtQX3lVIoYOoUqMZJo6zZ29zcH+pLAUqc+nm7h8VXuyYxSISQ 7WKkzVk4fFXY+7DPuPp0I7zNldE6f+yQ8/T6/+jKEt3npVd/JLIRvDUQCBpb+G5Ni9fW HYUUY9U5hEiHYoC6uT3TrXOioKuGCM/ZAQFCm1hD0NLkiXM2ODDyA7+UcWLyQepXQO2S QozQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1Y0X32PEiqM5Frip5KTthKfEcErrrKvmhCGj5QYmrzCaKCyDXm zv0EnVf9jLPRgIEN7XtuCDM85yx2kPQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcmDSokf8VBCeK1vZrjYvnmSyGH2c1LmSButDDuGXsZe8S6o1HaDtMMexLe/ABMEz2d/izTiA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:9e48:: with SMTP id v8-v6mr11842888wre.277.1530609617650; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 02:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t11-v6sm1228989wrg.23.2018.07.03.02.20.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jul 2018 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:20:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> (gnu lists's message of "Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:20:59 +1000") Message-ID: <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net writes: >> > I just built Emacs 26.1 on Centos 6 (RHEL 6.9). When I fire up the >> > executable with `src/emacs -Q` over X11 it shows an empty window with = no >> > minibuffer. See the following screenshot: >>=20 >> > https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Uf4m.png >> >=20 >> > I built Emacs without `gnutls`, but that should be possible. Do I miss >> > any essential libraries? >>=20 >> Try disabling double-buffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do that). > > Thanks Eli. That works. :-) >=20=20 > Any way to *build* Emacs so that it disables by default double-buffering? It doesn=CA=BCt look that way, if configure finds the Xdbe extension Emacs uses it. You could add '(inhibit-double-buffering . t) to default-frame-alist, or uninstall the Xdbe.h header. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 03 14:53:41 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2018 18:53:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faQQn-0006nF-Il for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:53:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57465) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faQQm-0006n4-TU for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:53:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faQQc-0006yG-VQ for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:53:35 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faQQc-0006y6-RS; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:53:30 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3411 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1faQQc-0005RC-37; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:53:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:53:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:20:15 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:20:15 +0200 > > >> Try disabling double-buffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do that). > > > > Thanks Eli. That works. :-) > > > > Any way to *build* Emacs so that it disables by default double-buffering? > > It doesnʼt look that way, if configure finds the Xdbe extension Emacs > uses it. You could add > > '(inhibit-double-buffering . t) > > to default-frame-alist, or uninstall the Xdbe.h header. Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch to build without double-buffering. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 03 18:57:58 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2018 22:57:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faUFB-0004Dj-Nh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:57:57 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:50423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faUFA-0004Dc-WF for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:57:57 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D8B21A7D; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:57:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=0YuLjO61xzhlpe2NUt6GRVnwZGzwS KoUJEdW1KiAQLA=; b=d1GpbYMnfsRMPNAOnF6ksB+RQXubsEpojb5XuDzfQ12he g0/XTcLmBgraL7+DSKrZLMj4hURtjLh3oVmPjKXQeuC9p0448g8+eyR9scy7iVdx QjvtFyil5cPl4smYrRFJqWgRg0Npp9AsOwsFMJj/L4vXn81azI/Ia6uY8KsRQ7rC CWN8xghQK81hNXL5kp/B3LGgep4TVMCEWj3NKofQ2OUOGIlDWTXNlFIMu894HLiq dHd3BwSzBt9U2mqyatEjYXXMYHyB6wBQu+j0TZnc7FEaYuMBakaWsL96QWWu9XeX hcJWEH474xMXLZprJMO0Al5g92P44vNItW55Erv1Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=0YuLjO 61xzhlpe2NUt6GRVnwZGzwSKoUJEdW1KiAQLA=; b=Nlzt69NwWPljhZW/S4K9UN VuodS0btJZecP74/4XbLH47fPv3oaBZmszN1PKTn1RNtBo/XKk/XX5pPB2hIS/g3 yVDeF5EX/3Gx8il7Hgt6mtCYLnYjvwwKBe8qFdamdAEIVooLyQinQ7HB0GUeoKWY s01FNT9+PRrkpEN4iMtVws+3UPePs49jcnXHpgtyiPN8je6xpY2SUiuzyPLUZR2p ne417sS5r5NBuiBjOz1fq14RYKJEdf1NIuB5tjvjBCv3q4/KeCUo1AE8unctrRC/ G0h2/XgeUbJF7CujEB95wCE4KNu3phTi+7QdPc01MdVz/+xetQSyzA5Z2tdkPU7w == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id E01FA4191; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_153065867540443991" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0d8ea36c Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:57:55 +1000 Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window In-Reply-To: <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_153065867540443991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, at 4:53 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Robert Pluim > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:20:15 +0200 > > > > >> Try disabling double-buffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do > > >> that).> > > > > > Thanks Eli. That works. :-) > > >=20 > > > Any way to *build* Emacs so that it disables by default double- > > > buffering?> > > > It doesn=CA=BCt look that way, if configure finds the Xdbe > > extension Emacs> > uses it. You could add > > > > '(inhibit-double-buffering . t) > > > > to default-frame-alist, or uninstall the Xdbe.h header. > > Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is > working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch > to build without double-buffering. Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip in here? --_----------=_153065867540443991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"



On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, at 4:53 AM, Eli Zaret= skii wrote:
> > From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@g= mail.com>
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.= org>,  32032@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:20:15= +0200
> >
> > >> Try disabling double-b= uffering (etc/NEWS describes how to do that).
> > >
> > > Thanks Eli. That works. :-= )
> > > 
> > > Any way to *build* Emacs s= o that  it disables by default double-buffering?
> >
> > It doesn=CA=BCt look that way, = if configure finds the Xdbe extension Emacs
> > uses it. You could add
> >
> > '(inhibit-double-buffering . t)=
> >
> > to default-frame-alist, or unin= stall the Xdbe.h header.
>
> Given that there are known bugs with= this feature that no one is
> working on, perhaps we should introd= uce an optional configure switch
> to build without double-buffering.

Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs so= urce code newbie to chip in here?
--_----------=_153065867540443991-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 03 22:35:26 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2018 02:35:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45757 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faXdb-0000r0-TC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:35:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50185) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1faXda-0000qj-3b for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:35:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faXdR-0005qz-DX for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:35:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59105) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1faXdR-0005qv-AB; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:35:13 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4290 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1faXdQ-0000LQ-La; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:35:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:35:09 +0300 Message-Id: <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-reply-to: <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> (gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net > Cc: 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:57:55 +1000 > > > Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is > > working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch > > to build without double-buffering. > > Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip in here? Of course. We were all newbies at some point. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 08:33:10 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 12:33:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbPvB-0006Ar-VD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:33:10 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:42367) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbPv9-0006Ai-0N for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:33:09 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BE721B84; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 08:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:33:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=mNv3kb3AyOJ67pEl0Zh4SPx88J56o MhGP3TpNFMb44U=; b=cRlWnn4coVzQTAnfVS1tQLIEaThrEvJYypxYa5kETBCIA QGIV2F9EEpmQJwLP+gW93L7T+dv9Izp3fqfHyw4Tn89fA3BYvScMC3zf2R5AMo5O HSIbHh4qdtS3A1jbEC27FUjxbPy5qXlZitBYvP9+GIPC4hy/UiYYl64FNReIpT9T hU5rtLMZe3Bx0gYcTjb95IrXVVAzgV5I4IWsYdFIYhdk78ODs36newhXM02BhsuL eIrSzk78Sk7lKm/J+WOdETDt7xnQ0/01AZh9IHK/hUj6f+jFpy/xzwQ0oWg/A9Sc F4Idi0tAHNrCNQpqtE5AWx0GMtUFBf8+JK1tnWxcQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=mNv3kb 3AyOJ67pEl0Zh4SPx88J56oMhGP3TpNFMb44U=; b=ivlSTkAK2XM4B71MrGTBNG 9Pq68zdvawuSGvbGFYUUfAvmJ1HYBjI3i4aAuLYE630EsvFLu7gllvJ+l3/31FyY e4/YHh3T/sp0l3YCFM/+n8RNqC+zmRaAXXbsCGyIkta30cEA+pw3Fqjrs8lhUNgQ m/jBMKlvQZzKEzyRdzN7n2Pj6aaEMqJJ/t0iOZZK+m7m+DIcT3bB4gu41i2W8Xtn 8gx8ZF7emlpKQePk+ZljZ9Y2GH980lSvlRt5lX0Wfajzkg6OviFHBldSRpQe4cfD CsAUPfUwRYu24rZ2J4QDIBow63Ii3B/V6RoOHRNwdJAmqBerbaQzB6Pzx4m5vbng == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id C578B410D; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 08:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net To: Eli Zaretskii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_15308803855376410" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0d8ea36c Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:33:05 +1000 In-Reply-To: <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_15308803855376410 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is >>> working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch>>> to build without double-buffering. >> >> Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip >> in here?> > Of course. We were all newbies at some point. I created a new `configure.ac` (see https://gist.github.com/halloleo/8f4ba4b1ffcc3874a2ee0e16e03f6618) which provides a `--without-backbuffer` option: ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X servers without any custom `.emacs` file. Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull request for it? --_----------=_15308803855376410 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is
working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch
to build without double-buffering.

Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip in here?

Of course.  We were all newbies at some point.

I created a new `configure.ac` (see https://gist.github.com/halloleo/8f4ba4b1ffcc3874a2ee0e16e03f6618) which provides a `--without-backbuffer` option:

    ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer

then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X servers without any custom `.emacs` file.

Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull request for it?

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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4-v6sm15343011wmh.14.2018.07.06.05.50.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 05:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:50:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> (gnu lists's message of "Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:33:05 +1000") Message-ID: <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net writes: >>>> Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is >>>> working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch>>= > to build without double-buffering. >>>=20 >>> Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip >>> in here?>=20 >> Of course. We were all newbies at some point. > > I created a new `configure.ac` (see > https://gist.github.com/halloleo/8f4ba4b1ffcc3874a2ee0e16e03f6618) which > provides a `--without-backbuffer` option: > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer > I=CA=BCd call it --without-xdbe, since that=CA=BCs the name of the X extension. You should probably also add it to the output of configure (all those "Does Emacs use " lines), and to emacs_config_features. > then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X > servers without any custom `.emacs` file. > Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull > request for it? We don=CA=BCt do pull requests. Creating a git format-patch (including a ChangeLog entry), is probably the easiest way to get the change in. It=CA=BCs possible you'll need to complete a copyright assignment [1] Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment? I suspect the change is less than 10 lines. Regards Robert Footnotes: [1] Yes, there=CA=BCs a lot of inertia to overcome before you can contribute to emacs. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 08:51:39 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 12:51:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQD1-0006bg-FD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQD0-0006bT-HJ for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQCr-0004A6-H1 for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQCr-0004A1-Dp; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:25 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4838 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQCq-0004zs-Sa; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:51:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:51:26 +0300 Message-Id: <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-reply-to: <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> (gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net > Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:33:05 +1000 > > > [1:text/plain Show] > > > [2:text/html Hide Save:noname (2kB)] > > Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is > working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch > to build without double-buffering. > > Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip in here? > > Of course. We were all newbies at some point. > > I created a new `configure.ac` (see https://gist.github.com/halloleo/8f4ba4b1ffcc3874a2ee0e16e03f6618) > which provides a `--without-backbuffer` option: > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer Thanks. > then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X servers without any custom `.emacs` file. > > Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull request for it? We don't (yet) work with pull requests. Please make the change in your local clone of the Emacs repository, on the master branch, and then use "git format-patch" to prepare a patch and post the patch here. (Please consult CONTRIBUTE in the repository for some of the practices we advise to use with contributed code.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 08:55:12 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 12:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48301 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQGW-0006h1-Nz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:55:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]:34294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQGT-0006gl-SH for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:55:10 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id s13-v6so4390538wmc.1 for <32032@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version; bh=HpWeWSJcrm89qoGQdQWM1PaU4WTFcV8+GE//+wBycsQ=; b=O7p6IvLLqyRsWalEag00GaEI8vKwEdxOQGvLM6GttaMiNTmj0zkkww6FL5l/h4GlMx HmOVfEhrfCQAkHVQzeObZa9bdEvwoySM8TvP7pyzYW+eudu4BgxOVepPfUcwtOFYrTCF C4UsvTxgCR62MZ79dtfXIxoCw77C/OggCHBoFjXJOsZLCH1mIBCXu/T6tlUCRCL/BzLQ ngkTAeCwgLI0ATXrinFLx12zDF5bvmZc8CxGxhT4hTLIqwaHHKoW+eZsskKs/FgVdpyp FA0CfDnF+sh3KZBvoGWh73lQ6l1Y+L2QgeUb9rSNvCqmZC/ABennWnFns0WrLrqjPQbG AOrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=HpWeWSJcrm89qoGQdQWM1PaU4WTFcV8+GE//+wBycsQ=; b=kOuPy0ZV7FRRCo8de1JBRiz8hWKo3K5oc01TLlJhxGRebL0kSiXd8ukdog4QJoBMGK 0P54/cMGjc25Hw1FeVPNCi2GQ4wzVPrV01KifZDTMKCyedKx0lQzqWMT0v+kKTmIJG1S 4EKgHSvwuh61cKEoRfMzdq1xc1koyIVuGFp/UH7MUcmWDc3TT6CkxyMLbvPAgvxpqf9W UpwrGtoiaH8FQ1VpiP1e7Hk12bErBQgOYOEL4Yedo82Ht0ElvrOxNC3JnhWmBIG48htk g8a/cTTaujZFlEejZuTsMCrWsPuyBr7i8m+O9YKkEcpdQosEAulbo4b+ZjyZniUDuiAE stjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2H53Ed72pyTY24ERqS3cqaTzLmHFIINIdjbyTPnGhyQxQNOh31 b6eIYTyFj5hNY0opiEUbNAPiLemqD2M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd6EfxDqWyJo4Wc0fjXGHXZp61oqhxWdt0v7olmZSpsUQV4Pxr+aT/3147vnHRY0JA37znXfQ== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c0d5:: with SMTP id s21-v6mr6137776wmh.106.1530881703828; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu (vav06-1-78-207-202-134.fbx.proxad.net. [78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5-v6sm17647540wmv.48.2018.07.06.05.55.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:55:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:51:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > We don't (yet) work with pull requests. Please make the change in > your local clone of the Emacs repository, on the master branch, and > then use "git format-patch" to prepare a patch and post the patch > here. It looks simple enough for emacs-26, no? Of course, it needs an etc/NEWS entry as well describing it whichever branch it goes to. Regards Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 09:13:09 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 13:13:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQXo-000796-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:13:08 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:50741) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQXh-00078Z-Gr for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:13:01 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7080D21AD2; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:12:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=qehdxHI/q+K/NimOGH1O9aaZSYG7D Tc+rS7ND1SzJiM=; b=TueWfQPkfjIyzsjoCprfcXHCXtveNq/eANX2IUznu7qNt pnWuXQGkNobADzRjlRhl1ce8WfRzZ0HllNYMUva4/b+UxFCNCWVlqPDr74zHi3XO 49S9r9qLDesWURYqH03qaLp28/QpZ3dZlDE9/TKS2va6sy9MzJFLMcWYSOa0hMvT zBRMMlM/AYvAsBhwv2KB3rG7pjJzzbVNiXBWGF2B9qbCkJORJcsDHYLZrcOCS5ML PjEykE0GVYeyWHgUmwiWoZPvOlIP9rXAwwN1EA+z5hy62zZmeCDIyvRSJh5xPMJO tllp5fcoCGvwhfuzCLCk77nFBq10wUusVDm/Vt7Cw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=qehdxH I/q+K/NimOGH1O9aaZSYG7DTc+rS7ND1SzJiM=; b=e1m+wdaDOh/PNz2hsEuLfn iV31+HuvJRI/dBeAa6JSRduOKxR2BkZ+Zf0quMQpb8TAgNWz7l30c2uNhwFrn9HO Jyl080HGgys/c0My8V1qr4ZFM/g+V3rDqUeuWz0C31CrnBN4e6O4hYgWBVvf2O7n EVQts6vXuZefYG9+a3op0PFGBAVg/10XwVftSxwMmfdRfRGgxJTfRPV8lInYPcqW G3VLxyyW7LdE8QmeDJnqsFID58aKtljgfiZqgq4JfkVgsPLIGjeHPty7pC7yKF97 WjU1O3VcUymzT4yykSnAVLuyaJivcQuDPNUPTHtu9cB+4oQqIF5NZi4UXj+QWuDg == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 06C89410D; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1530882775.549830.1432064648.17C214DA@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net To: Eli Zaretskii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0d8ea36c Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:12:55 +1000 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > > Given that there are known bugs with this feature that no one is > > working on, perhaps we should introduce an optional configure switch > > to build without double-buffering. > > > > Agreed. Does it make sense for a Emacs source code newbie to chip in here? > > > > Of course. We were all newbies at some point. > > > > I created a new `configure.ac` (see https://gist.github.com/halloleo/8f4ba4b1ffcc3874a2ee0e16e03f6618) > > which provides a `--without-backbuffer` option: > > > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer > > Thanks. > > > then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X servers without any custom `.emacs` file. > > > > Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull request for it? > > We don't (yet) work with pull requests. Please make the change in > your local clone of the Emacs repository, on the master branch, and > then use "git format-patch" to prepare a patch and post the patch > here. > > (Please consult CONTRIBUTE in the repository for some of the practices > we advise to use with contributed code.) Will do. Will try to post patch tomorrow. Happy emacsing! : -) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 09:20:38 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 13:20:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQf8-0007Kt-09 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQf2-0007Kd-Rs for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQeu-0005vg-DM for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQet-0005uZ-Qf; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:24 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2634 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQes-0004CR-SE; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:20:23 +0300 Message-Id: <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:50:22 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:50:22 +0200 > > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer > > > > Iʼd call it --without-xdbe Or maybe --disable-double-buffering? > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment? I suspect the > change is less than 10 lines. If it's small (and I also expect it to be small), then no assignment is necessary. Of course, starting the paperwork now would be a good idea regardless. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 09:30:19 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 13:30:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQoV-0007bW-6x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQoS-0007aQ-Mo for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQoH-0003ke-4P for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQoH-0003k1-1N; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:05 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3219 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbQoG-0000uq-B6; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:30:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:30:06 +0300 Message-Id: <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:55:02 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:55:02 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > We don't (yet) work with pull requests. Please make the change in > > your local clone of the Emacs repository, on the master branch, and > > then use "git format-patch" to prepare a patch and post the patch > > here. > > It looks simple enough for emacs-26, no? It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no urgent need for this option. What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 09:54:15 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 13:54:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRBf-00088r-G7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:54:15 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:39039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRBd-00088j-RT for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:54:14 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3745C21F46; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:54:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=6y3T9AlHnZSSCCRPJzeTM1tgVYs6o NmvFRDDRKNKY2g=; b=O14RDnnYx4UOH2IJzRTut4df09Ucck3Nj0LSGCe5No4bn 5Zk6UR0dfHcpPrfWyKkyiPkU9idx28TUc779RO5JgqJuIse3bIQg4mrC+bbgrO7m xpRDS9dhNYnk+2u5neu95RJh6HEBIMNI320Vv3VbszTUh55OBjMLfLuHEjzll77G we4U3vK9tm8WVMINODt8+9P701dBmBZVKwja/qIijhRagub6OpGXRmdNiHDzcl6g 8Da7Ec3cLX5AFo8rfEb8fPiC0eN7dgIBfAqM12VcsqGG7bZMPbWehbc2CX8ySVCv uvB0BX8h+qJph1iI2c7XogaPsnrAJJTQg9Flm33ng== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=6y3T9A lHnZSSCCRPJzeTM1tgVYs6oNmvFRDDRKNKY2g=; b=Q2JrHXpq37jBJK9CmPkJ4l 6C5t4TLIqo0VfiQNDIChTwq8vg2eVH2Yl/uzl4GT/ZXdFglavIwAQj1LdNCAqhtu 7gqcX7KmM6g0ZfatUs2GBMuaX8Fgnq+kBmmugCadoILb0sFsb++23tFzzQo0q1rE bnrLfSx+jJ3jp+7bzAmnaJSXtmOW+VA3gdHZuFQnMVide6promvef7bvoPh/5Pc7 0JwDTKyHzhuVLeozodK9P7HBIj2dXOwwuYOZWOhao6muAOPU7qW5TCY5LiI/vYCQ +ArwR17YccfPSGdsr3kMztjTm0LtbeSkGXLkWcmqvk09ZXF62fgQ7qj3MeOyu6aA == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9A53340FF; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 09:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net To: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_15308852525693620" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0d8ea36c Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:54:12 +1000 References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_15308852525693620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer > > > > > > > I=CA=BCd call it --without-xdbe > > Or maybe --disable-double-buffering? I think sticking with the --without-... pattern makes sense. > > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment?=20 What=E2=80=99s this copyright assignment about? A GNU thing? --_----------=_15308852525693620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
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> > Eli, would such a change requir= e copyright assignment? 

What=E2=80=99s this copyright assignment abo= ut? A GNU thing?
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If you call it 'without-double-buffering' please make Xdbe appear in the help string, it would help people search for it. >> > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment?=20 > > What=E2=80=99s this copyright assignment about? A GNU thing? Yes. The FSF requires that substantial changes to GNU programs have their copyright assigned to them (although you still retain your rights to the changes as well). Explained in greater detail here: For small changes such assignment is not required, but if you plan to make lots of contributions it=CA=BCs a good idea. The process is relatively painless. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 10:07:34 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 14:07:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbROX-00005v-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]:35293) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbROW-00005j-S6 for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:07:33 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i12-v6so23684300oik.2 for <32032@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3zZCbx8W6xKvGOgXRxz8zs+lztu19ky7rkN+ZEp5TZc=; b=LZSXWtIc7ycuZTPdXUZ5VnQB2jR9YdNUsra7APQHQG9p2s79pd2l4KkPHZuAewrziu fvcI4rGOI5UPdfWMkBP6rD+rr8WqjAJVrSm56Pqq8O5ZsiC+Gj5JJ5ydNEtYX9wUmNLh 4+B3iF9p0PlMCWzGP5wbdsalW9JEmVE30b/IzUwtHERAliNY94s0VQa0EiWbDkaUKERx QZHYH8LTAJMGKV63qYGW34mx5TRWwpQtgMwTuc0HmIGiOTvVXMS9gJMebZk4JJ2h+zuY 4BlOvQHmWFYLyEqiR9o0Ledh5/dC+84OJHpgMV9nrRckw5Tl39HpJuELiV42UW2h2fpD h41w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3zZCbx8W6xKvGOgXRxz8zs+lztu19ky7rkN+ZEp5TZc=; b=aiMEa/qxma4HVTm/sKxAhOHh7oytd6g6+KqI2Vf8JMj6T/Dd44ngg2lb6zgwXOhWSh fUYl+trBKpfYA8+NLVHqlr/3DowdfopllrJeleuTo7FHAit6gTVnkSNjMLTTvOOWfW7V +l8irZWXC6IxH7oYSF7Ge4rXwzn0OS3h3Gah6w8xRul2cabB4JusvoGR0Hl3zrbo6AyH vhB+Bigii2MCuR/grQjpICnGm4esizcFRJYveRBtKT1HtP8XfvfFS4LB++BJW4LcLggB HgClrEhw5u/cnhTdDkMhMenx1ql4ZIpIFcikSgxLoRxYgetQ+hTUf9kxuqTSxWhRpitI MbMA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3X/9Mkd09dcVsr6HZrr1rZ/uJyBjQMMCd01LQ3h3COiwBCBNW0 8pawhl18qfffgwkjRr0lM+TaOvB01LMHnIqrNs4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd88RIEc9JLegFqNLD/NM2K+MDqI/jYEkThHmnfCbjkL4LqttBldY3dHymfdZFicBiT+yDlv5eIEQeEhmGi0o8= X-Received: by 2002:aca:d9c5:: with SMTP id q188-v6mr10716668oig.239.1530886047381; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:07:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4a:3b8d:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 07:07:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:07:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 6 July 2018 at 09:54, wrote: >> > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer >> > > >> > >> > I=CA=BCd call it --without-xdbe >> >> Or maybe --disable-double-buffering? > > I think sticking with the --without-... pattern makes sense. The ./configure --help output distinguishes between features and packages: Optional Features: --disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATURE= =3Dno) --enable-FEATURE[=3DARG] include FEATURE [ARG=3Dyes] Optional Packages: --with-PACKAGE[=3DARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=3Dyes] --without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=3Dno) I think the double buffering thing is a feature, not a package, so --disable-... fits better. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 10:08:42 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 14:08:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRPe-00007f-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:08:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRPb-00007S-F9 for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:08:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRPV-00067y-JK for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:08:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRPV-00067f-FT; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:08:33 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1770 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbRPU-0004WC-RQ; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:08:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 17:08:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83bmbklan1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-reply-to: <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> (gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net > Cc: 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:54:12 +1000 > > > > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment? > > What’s this copyright assignment about? A GNU thing? Yes. I can send you the assignment form, and you can then decide whether you are okay with doing it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 10:57:28 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 14:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbSAq-0001CA-2G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:57:28 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f52.google.com ([209.85.221.52]:39142) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbSAn-0001Bv-L8 for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 10:57:26 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id h10-v6so4485995wre.6 for <32032@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9bJP1WOaSGvsYAmLEiJc5zvTJYv8UjHiCaRRlEyICFc=; b=iKxFD/y4bYSquPII9fPIQ6URp+2GT+lWej5XPy4RIahsFf2hdMX4tExcp4XMH3FzPz P9z6woS/BzcGZQEvwQNW8VGPiQY/howLNbTrUmACbcARszi5p5ZL0ZIu5VaNvW71CqIZ mPDETcWzSGGRaIFpvKf2djkK75tlVZGcw10g90CNObj24RXQFyQv8FNt/rE8G+JJeB4M j4LftpniAdLf5PriRlQCOd40lIYc+Qj7qsK5SMFU4x2meV7ljjGSjOqQw+mtg1t/1cii UVIaDABelf9sk2TNyhhxwl8Di4L4zhTgzIxlNaOq2wxrMlN47lGSWwVs3qyadPbPRDm1 Z9Gw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9bJP1WOaSGvsYAmLEiJc5zvTJYv8UjHiCaRRlEyICFc=; b=pGknlSpyEXcS3I5Lk3dVpiBmTy2lnBT9B7MGDRBYfjGD7TVieeOhuzptKfow6vizQ9 JHkLyLtTcJ+5b5KixezWsUkx+HmAy/hkNirKsq6z9gMUN86EoG7ttISnKqi84YVZeddR lVaUa5DMHAm2S3jZqnZ5I+fAnVITbfxMgJfLFA+wzXIdhK2YihwUnSRHLsaNgdg4NzIu ruI+NcSaVE8TDPgOWskDsbjKLDgKOXNV9rjfl05offhQ0JehuT2iqJlPV6GyKH3gwf83 uX9EwecZWfnVFJbU1qbnkBv5tn9974rQK/7mhH8qGMUOoLnWksnhVHXSH1NIklUJfY5e ngkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2bSRQd8x0KtjlAu1Th9z+5ezkHmpYRnuZ11ohQXy6GAqb+NCyS ZljkUqFmzg2BLoK6tTlir3eHAJ7gQrc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe0UDeMwtlWgMqMX6ib0xJ+zuQIpoT42WJ3wsa+2Y2m87fqJMmKPkL5bKV2N9R0rM6wUId1FQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ab14:: with SMTP id q20-v6mr7536943wrc.239.1530889039236; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l17-v6sm14623948wrh.45.2018.07.06.07.57.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:57:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Noam Postavsky's message of "Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:07:26 -0400") Message-ID: <87r2kg8l9v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Noam Postavsky writes: > On 6 July 2018 at 09:54, wrote: >>> > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer >>> > > >>> > >>> > I=CA=BCd call it --without-xdbe >>> >>> Or maybe --disable-double-buffering? >> >> I think sticking with the --without-... pattern makes sense. > > The ./configure --help output distinguishes between features and packages: > > Optional Features: > --disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATUR= E=3Dno) > --enable-FEATURE[=3DARG] include FEATURE [ARG=3Dyes] > > Optional Packages: > --with-PACKAGE[=3DARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=3Dyes] > --without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=3Dno) > > I think the double buffering thing is a feature, not a package, so > --disable-... fits better. Is XIM as feature or a package? Because that=CA=BCs under --with (as is X11). Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 18:43:52 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 22:43:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbZSC-0004Ky-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:43:52 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:51127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbZSA-0004Kr-Ax for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:43:50 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8C921ADC; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:43:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=QYu0QlzJvtOh/2mYR6PqDW5b6/dJ6 49e/c802k9dBFo=; b=g4/kZx0wwPSp5DE/YWF7kuhQyCroJKeqLvmng8BhVe8mi XTEBZGxlQVVpbz9/LC1EKSjfquVSXs6xQuYgK1bv6vhZBs7LNfohhZizj8KNo189 lE1W4qUD2G5ojnWyjxmywUwHzQMULgL+xIc4wtQaJ1FbjxEefcC1+ydjI1VXAWga NeQBaJSaDeqbFCrB/FD+B4a6HlgTsdKXrdnCnOhXhKpEe9JJtjGnbUgimdsahWBn KRkAehsb+ai42EhmahxqMQHQTmXGOqtSeQ5rhVo/7z+c/nbYsTiU/rPweDajCjMH QwLZs2BWEATzedTL4zI4xc3iOwIbct601jfRykLZg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=QYu0Ql zJvtOh/2mYR6PqDW5b6/dJ649e/c802k9dBFo=; b=DBZMeU7C30PM+VvqX2bevY ue3Fmyx07OVbxkFbpbarCTrztmTHdxZeInqI3hDwm3j6evL6EHLMoE7zEPl2wZxZ IJ9Rl8JxifT23UmRIvV6+yblP7+m8soJBjWE1zVpEDBkLFKd9kj2jaRgS93WJC8h GYtPEssExCZU2akSwSUmhmbsVjxoKuTiLD945LUN45ZyCosPy3LTxfk4KyQiHXB7 BNNhEZduBDyXk/ZJczXdu8RnmZMG/Q1jxq03NpQDDhJTy1OIHiykc4AJjKGuLv4Y AWJSzwH63RFJhQJzQrF/c9CvPccz5R48o+kveQoDxyIIsRkIDusQUz3nzzA+PYdQ == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.0.3] (203-59-52-166.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.59.52.166]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 844C4E4040; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-Reply-To: <87r2kg8l9v.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 08:43:44 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F63C6C5-4209-46A8-9865-DB7D1F28E5A9@halloleo.hailmail.net> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87r2kg8l9v.fsf@gmail.com> To: Robert Pluim , Noam Postavsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > >>> > > ./configure --without-gnutls --without-backbuffer > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > I=CA=BCd call it --without-xdbe > >>> > >>> Or maybe --disable-double-buffering? > >> > >> I think sticking with the --without-... pattern makes sense. > > > > The ./configure --help output distinguishes between features and = packages: > > > > Optional Features: > > --disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as = --enable-FEATURE=3Dno) > > --enable-FEATURE[=3DARG] include FEATURE [ARG=3Dyes] > > > > Optional Packages: > > --with-PACKAGE[=3DARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=3Dyes] > > --without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as = --with-PACKAGE=3Dno) > > > > I think the double buffering thing is a feature, not a package, so > > --disable-... fits better. > > Is XIM as feature or a package? Because that=CA=BCs under --with (as = is > X11). I=E2=80=99d say if we call it "--without-xdbe" it=E2=80=99s a package, = if we call it "--disable-double-buffering" it is a feature. %-) I vote for --without-xdbe; - it is shorter and gives the X11 reference. = I can include "double-buffering" in the help string. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 06 18:44:04 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2018 22:44:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbZSO-0004Lz-B3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:44:04 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:57215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbZSN-0004Lr-2i for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E274A21B62; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:44:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=4afsvAZRtAwVFgXl12J99i3gGOhuV kQ+5+EWOeHs98A=; b=gnNo2se308kL3Zp4WAqPFpWv46XL1LnkEKLs053GHIJsb g1moohi8xhpbVyRhmQUf6j2q6VgB1NLGYCAJHAn+wzh1AEQcdnAaBu6S/fQDBIPV JsLG24b31UQttSdNQomIzOfp5pFk+9vWHUOTC7vWYRnouMp7cZ3shaHayHnXnmsR X4YFEEDQzQ1a/8jw8LEx55gT9GESTfauBPt9dTKJchopNsTZ0EP9+PsHWqChWylf YXlT6/hRrwgGoAtdFd04TkE+x+z4IFLGps4+wcepxbnfpX0nebC4CctWrppe8tOj Eq1BTCwhDF/SM+3SdekwTAwx7fH21gD5CbjB+2FLQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=4afsvA ZRtAwVFgXl12J99i3gGOhuVkQ+5+EWOeHs98A=; b=j7psIbAJJzTDz861aXs5rm bV6LefZNP4kqEDITxVNLhlSInpVOTfD9LRwKPR/v/vE4MYFkbuaGuW2VO83htmIs navMO3ltsCovRY9Y1yVjT8Yz5cn3zyWxeVc+x5/nnfNhQ8l53g7TuqVOhurQIfu4 oVZ224aiBsf9FHxDyKE+qBF6DnvRCyBwplcK2r8UGMpxGBUZ58AwtKvEJnEGJKj8 gIDvpY2A6QzV0tfq/MLM2q14SDYFftGNbFNW8sYzK8lZtb1A6lfnhPvr0iV7hnEg uPQDl7dziHhkKCAzVFwEZ3r6dKfb3UEA0CyMT8WDVs1RFPNdeiJqUi0WycFWVOSA == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.0.3] (203-59-52-166.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.59.52.166]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6DF7FE4627; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 18:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-Reply-To: <83bmbklan1.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 08:44:00 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <31A88FC8-561E-4925-A65A-38529737B7D8@halloleo.hailmail.net> References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83bmbklan1.fsf@gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > > > > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment? > > > > What=E2=80=99s this copyright assignment about? A GNU thing? > > Yes. I can send you the assignment form, and you can then decide > whether you are okay with doing it. Yes, please send it through.= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 07 03:18:55 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2018 07:18:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49030 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhUd-0001Bs-Kx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:18:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50448) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhUc-0001Be-Fo for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:18:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhUU-0000C9-2f for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:18:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhUT-0000C3-V9; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:18:46 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1192 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbhUT-0003sL-9l; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 03:18:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:18:49 +0300 Message-Id: <83tvpbjyxy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net In-reply-to: <31A88FC8-561E-4925-A65A-38529737B7D8@halloleo.hailmail.net> (gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <878t6oa5pt.fsf@gmail.com> <83in5slcvc.fsf@gnu.org> <1530885252.569362.1432108416.7AF1FD37@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83bmbklan1.fsf@gnu.org> <31A88FC8-561E-4925-A65A-38529737B7D8@halloleo.hailmail.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 08:44:00 +1000 > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, > 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > Eli, would such a change require copyright assignment? > > > > > > What’s this copyright assignment about? 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charset=utf-8 On 6 Jul 2018, at 22:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> then builds an Emacs exe which starts up properly on unbuffered X = servers without any custom `.emacs` file. >>=20 >> Where do I put the `configure.ac` file and how do I create a pull = request for it? >=20 > ...Please make the change in your local clone of the Emacs repository, = on the master branch, and > then use "git format-patch" to prepare a patch and post the patch > here. Created the patch. I went with =E2=80=9C--without-xdbe" and "double = buffering" in the help message. Please find attached the zipped patch file. Let me know whether I=E2=80=99= ve done it according to protocol. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p21-v6sm7461603iog.70.2018.07.14.16.55.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 14 Jul 2018 16:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:55:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:30:06 +0300") Message-ID: <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Robert Pluim , gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) retitle 32032 26.1; MobaXterm X server + double buffering causes blank window quit Eli Zaretskii writes: > > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no > urgent need for this option. > > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time, but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X servers. 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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 131-v6sm17950848wmm.31.2018.07.15.04.35.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 15 Jul 2018 04:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 13:35:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:55:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87sh4k4tqb.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Noam Postavsky writes: > retitle 32032 26.1; MobaXterm X server + double buffering causes blank wi= ndow > quit > > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still >> hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no >> urgent need for this option. >> >> What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? > > I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time, > but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug > fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X > servers. I can understand that some people want to build an emacs that=CA=BCs maximally likely to work with all X servers, hence they want to be able to disable possible problematic features like double-buffering at compile time. That doesn=CA=BCt make it urgent, but it=CA=BCs a pretty smal= l and harmless change (famous last words). Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 20 05:17:57 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2018 09:17:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgRXx-0008Bs-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:17:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55648) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgRXv-00088N-HB for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:17:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgRXl-0005Rd-Hf for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:17:50 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45098) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgRXl-0005RY-Ct; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:17:45 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3492 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fgRXk-0006Zh-Or; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:17:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:17:45 +0300 Message-Id: <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:55:11 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Noam Postavsky > Cc: Robert Pluim , gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:55:11 -0400 > > retitle 32032 26.1; MobaXterm X server + double buffering causes blank window > quit > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still > > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no > > urgent need for this option. > > > > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? > > I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time, > but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug > fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X > servers. So you tend to have this on the release branch? 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j11-v6sm910895itj.6.2018.07.20.05.50.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:17:45 +0300") Message-ID: <8736we6phh.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > >> > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still >> > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no >> > urgent need for this option. >> > >> > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? >> >> I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time, >> but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug >> fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X >> servers. > > So you tend to have this on the release branch? Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 21 06:51:10 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2018 10:51:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgpTi-00065d-Ln for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:51:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgpTh-00065O-2c for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:51:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgpTX-00063y-2P for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:51:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fgpTW-00063r-U4; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:50:58 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3235 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fgpTV-0003y7-OV; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 06:50:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 13:50:59 +0300 Message-Id: <834lgszwto.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <8736we6phh.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> <8736we6phh.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Noam Postavsky > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > > >> > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still > >> > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no > >> > urgent need for this option. > >> > > >> > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2? > >> > >> I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time, > >> but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug > >> fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X > >> servers. > > > > So you tend to have this on the release branch? > > Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 21 07:25:31 2018 Received: (at 32032) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2018 11:25:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50261 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgq0x-0006t7-Dy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:25:31 -0400 Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.21]:40903) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fgq0v-0006sz-MO for 32032@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:25:30 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728A2250; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:25:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hailmail.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Wf0EY9RS8QfrDuE67zMS4Du6cdaYK M7WC9jLjVvT1dI=; b=rb72afz7TGNuSZaTo/O3huWb1scAljc+E7ZRo9Bavj+aq cUEazOpuJRi5Cla77aVZBC+cUJBC1Rg+gXtsTZia4shPA76FSkHqnMdq4Vk5jxpO 77tnhXx+JUC9WwEM0LXie9rnf8O/QnNgBTf702RGuZBaewyCSzjX0vT0WZ2a489C O4cG7VRmPv0pZaomb/PTqqqePbia6Iv5VYP9wmLs2+h9A60pMtWlAsn0r/1Ltcmx Ke1jpK8y+UffZeYodIGQDYUrz5Mtj2T6TMEG0T8w8IetCtTykKjOoGFqA8oz1k8v x0qw47w69lhL/vsJrHbKyEZUrVHEd7HfsP+8jeclg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=Wf0EY9 RS8QfrDuE67zMS4Du6cdaYKM7WC9jLjVvT1dI=; b=SCCZwzod/VaACs/7L3aCz1 ykOZxTTlgkR5WPyk2iEaBCZn2cjZIcO59nLF0tLOcbhWQ/wMEGP0qGvRxobKN+3S sgACjbkwpD/5R+9ZZIy2z1sj7Woml88Cw2j3DQ+4Z+h7+xgrNtGR3aB8Hpz/InDY L1QYAFYeYlsFSmwk1zrg6dOw57smkf6OqTFkRyI2SaI066omZLAQR5sqps9vQAlD vQNluMiHJjp8UFmpNTULkHNZvC/xdg0OQUsTx2EbxpYmZVw0qVrKzPQrGLl3zCHj nrIJk82ne6CwQYmHGTRclTCVrnyNVrXOMklAsVr7aGX/t86PU82WLYDoeAmKNYjg == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 462DE412A; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1532172327.4151523.1448176088.290E94AD@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: leo To: Eli Zaretskii , Noam Postavsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_153217232741515230" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0843ff3e In-Reply-To: <834lgszwto.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:25:27 +1000 Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> <8736we6phh.fsf@gmail.com> <834lgszwto.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_153217232741515230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, at 8:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Noam Postavsky > > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, > > 32032@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> > > > >> > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and > > >> > I still> > >> > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have > > >> > no> > >> > urgent need for this option. > > >> > > > >> > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into > > >> > Emacs 26.2?> > >> > > >> I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure > > >> time,> > >> but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the > > >> bug> > >> fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more > > >> exotic X> > >> servers. > > > > > > So you tend to have this on the release branch? > > > > Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. > > OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then. > > Thanks. Cool! If there's anythingfor me to add in, let me know. Leo --_----------=_153217232741515230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"



On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, at 8:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
> > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com,  gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net,  32032@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > >> >
> > >> > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and I still
> > >> > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so we will have no
> > >> > urgent need for this option.
> > >> >
> > >> > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into Emacs 26.2?
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure time,
> > >> but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by getting the bug
> > >> fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more exotic X
> > >> servers.
> > >
> > > So you tend to have this on the release branch?
> >
> > Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature.
>
> OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then.
>
> Thanks.

Cool! If there's anythingfor me to add in, let me know.

Leo
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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i125-v6sm8032459wmd.11.2018.07.21.10.20.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: leo Subject: Re: bug#32032: 26.1; Emacs 26 opens under X with blank window References: <1530496354.303915.1426735056.22418E3E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83a7r9ln7o.fsf@gnu.org> <1530602459.1684831.1428231512.49979EDA@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878t6sd6b4.fsf@gmail.com> <83bmbojgm8.fsf@gnu.org> <1530658675.4044399.1429182904.3377623F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83sh4zohia.fsf@gnu.org> <5E9BAFF1-1EAE-47CD-8983-6B36AB232B9C@hailmail.net> <83lgaole7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhz48qxl.fsf@gmail.com> <83h8lclcf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87efg59xuo.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1pq1d1i.fsf@gnu.org> <8736we6phh.fsf@gmail.com> <834lgszwto.fsf@gnu.org> <1532172327.4151523.1448176088.290E94AD@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 19:20:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1532172327.4151523.1448176088.290E94AD@webmail.messagingengine.com> (leo's message of "Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:25:27 +1000") Message-ID: <87o9f0fqu5.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Noam Postavsky , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) leo writes: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, at 8:50 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > From: Noam Postavsky >> > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, >> > 32032@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:50:02 -0400 >> > >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > >> > >> > >> > It does, but I'm hesitant to add new features to emacs-26, and >> > >> > I still> > >> > hope those bugs will get fixed at some point, so = we will have >> > >> > no> > >> > urgent need for this option. >> > >> > >> > >> > What do others think--is it urgent to get this option into >> > >> > Emacs 26.2?> > >> >> > >> I'm not sure why it's so important to disable this at configure >> > >> time,> > >> but I wouldn't count on the urgency being relieved by g= etting the >> > >> bug> > >> fixed any time soon since it only seems to happen on more >> > >> exotic X> > >> servers. >> > > >> > > So you tend to have this on the release branch? >> > >> > Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. >> >> OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then. >> >> Thanks. > > Cool! If there's anythingfor me to add in, let me know. I think an entry in etc/NEWS describing the new configure option would be good (and a commit message in ChangeLog format, I don=CA=BCt recall if you provided that). 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > So you tend to have this on the release branch? >> >> Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. > > OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then. Apparently everybody agreed that this was to be applied, but that never happened? So I applied it now to Emacs 28, but since nobody has complained about this in the past two years, perhaps it's superf [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32032 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, gnu_lists@halloleo.hailmail.net, Noam Postavsky , 32032@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > So you tend to have this on the release branch? >> >> Yeah, since it's to avoid a bug in a new feature. > > OK, let's get this into emacs-26, then. Apparently everybody agreed that this was to be applied, but that never happened? So I applied it now to Emacs 28, but since nobody has complained about this in the past two years, perhaps it's superfluous. 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