From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:14:47 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#31908 <31908@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#31908 <31908@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Save file locks in centralized location Reply-To: bug#31908 <31908@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:14:47 +0000 retitle 31908 Save file locks in centralized location reassign 31908 emacs submitter 31908 Radon Rosborough severity 31908 wishlist tag 31908 confirmed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 20 00:42:02 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2018 04:42:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwU-000077-Bh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:42:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwT-00006e-FX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:42:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwN-0002OP-3c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:41:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:54203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwN-0002OJ-0R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:41:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58149) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwL-0006DM-Or for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:41:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwK-0002NE-RS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:41:53 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::230]:34664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVUwK-0002Mp-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:41:52 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-x230.google.com with SMTP id e13-v6so2545159lfc.1 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/gQTr+Hd36TNgwBSquvgJuzzB/CqHEhhWxzKQDBdIKs=; b=uNn2C0agaPOMELlki3Vj6dORaYWjJc/bb59EuD7swIPYpQBjk50C2jBuTWCxfk5WPg gQgMoPaAtiYs+1yy2V4dxvHDeKsBmNcmR6zZCqBGQIsLfC2fmlkrgacRhLjK8bWtqoqN HZZHmMNvJ0VRu2+B9ykdOYMG0/XDa8zjNZCc6s80VPFpCmNMdXazMjXAoxml1iqfYKuo XvOgOVExLwLj2BESQ93MQeAVkDZ1vMbLEpQWLUwmajiGFNZB/rRG2dbZ9tcddqLxfWUz VEW4yFYzV2DY7/gHCfm5nBPBeSvPVF08v//QTLUqmf9neGZaS8J24V2+PXuwDwUN92SG SBPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/gQTr+Hd36TNgwBSquvgJuzzB/CqHEhhWxzKQDBdIKs=; b=fLgGDLcYqbS/kd3UiDMUgJzDbhPM0OtnRvfqp3mILH9J8b+coAosIR4P97nArBXz06 eaKoz9s3vrqh97Cs8VBLDCExU/uOOZWPoeV7Dy614tnUnb3/1M1sdeByYPbGUKl9edLE BAFy7EFrVBQNNDGbpIHwp8Pm/94cAOnDwkEnsgEtYfHqWWYQphyRapyzKX2ktSrijR46 DQvRjQVoEKNC2efsgYWJZm44qIpotUmEYBdXtiG4QB+00fmPtkTIwb7QUKkJFramhCaW i+WUkK0doAd9SgvrMXikugycHI6cWUbEkN9Klp2ffogxEhJ6C/nZabsTkv/3oX5Vi81U 38eA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3eJ3Gg9uAST58+WYCSMN0yB8DH4XQbbzctYq6KIFdkNC419GwC 8qVr7VYyPHzTh2tUOUD8JsoWC5NOLIW6gpUYcin+pw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKL0u2fRy59v7l1qaYh4e5ExwbxCyBhletoF3HBItlj6IrNOQnVnL05kVnmQVeL69C2QroFZd6Cpv4OxiRGd8qg= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9a44:: with SMTP id k4-v6mr12760339ljj.17.1529469710277; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:41:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Radon Rosborough Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:41:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Save file locks in centralized location To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) While you have an unsaved buffer, Emacs creates a lock file [1] in the current directory. This is useful to prevent concurrent edits, but it is also annoying to have the extra file around: for example, if you save frequently while you have a Dired pane with a fast Auto Revert enabled in another window, the lock file will keep appearing and disappearing rapidly. I wish for Emacs to save its lock files in some subdirectory of my `user-emacs-directory', rather than in the same directory as the file under consideration. Is that possible? If not, is it possible to implement the feature someday? I found no relevant discussion on the bug tracker or on emacs-devel, and I only found the discouraging [2] on Stack Exchange. [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/File-Locks.html [2]: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/5967/12534 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 20 02:03:34 2018 Received: (at 31908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2018 06:03:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56849 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVWDO-0002C0-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:03:34 -0400 Received: from smtp-4.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.59]:43298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVWDM-0002Br-Sr for 31908@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:03:33 -0400 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=1574 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-4.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVWDK-0007Vq-KW; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:03:30 +1200 Received: from wlgwil-nat-office.catalyst.net.nz ([202.78.240.7]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:03:30 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:03:30 +1200 From: Phil Sainty To: Radon Rosborough Subject: Re: bug#31908: Save file locks in centralized location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5db0cafc33dd36dd9bc279f035cce3a0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs , 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) If users had their own custom location for locks, surely the locking would cease to have any significant purpose, because no one would ever see a lock created by someone else? The utility would be reduced to preventing you from simultaneously using multiple separate emacs instances to edit/write a given file. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 20 11:30:14 2018 Received: (at 31908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2018 15:30:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVf3k-0002UT-VS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:30:14 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f42.google.com ([209.85.215.42]:39280) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVf3h-0002TO-JJ for 31908@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:30:11 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f42.google.com with SMTP id t2-v6so5608315lfd.6 for <31908@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:30:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e+veZksz3DctTKpKaT2nZvfy71B4ZYI2MxMLlGmzkTk=; b=aNHIRN4A0y7QgZRmiSwq4cY9B14n+PRGAlxAQNs6PKOKCwpHxcG9iR4b6dnrVcupJV Mzb4uzDQ9AthmrqKOqw84MIy1OOo5dxzyvcjFJ9kJpv7wR17nSiwNzI5gajJkC4nIBFz DSP6/r7OVwz+4gzJeincDDzjnbfiMI9HtLpobS9DikWY46TjHfKS8hP7Xog+JsdGUAkm jW2bH2fsTWnzH0BeGMPr1DEUcoLNvmgl5y4sh6BZTI3G3QOrT4ZP9zACPZ76eZqEgvzq 963aeUQECCF2XBgK/SnZmqrE/6nYmfVwDjmImiYoHpN0zwIDA6nKi0QvzZVuFBoPgjTX du3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e+veZksz3DctTKpKaT2nZvfy71B4ZYI2MxMLlGmzkTk=; b=uluQ6rOdRWM9RaOeRTAJ4CJ0H5B5BphtMMHKQPo/zyjvxtnvhGbrY3D7dnNe4q59Yo jiRSbn7xFKKkwy8U2Z41V2KJTI8z43D+INi/QIuDWbXuL/f7COuqbD7Q/3ahirljnj5e uL6UhwHoH+CG/rfITvVao7f4pqYTpm4t3KLwc/J4kLfgea5mjopBTXZCieBs9+rZO+w2 kW6c/0daC7QcSFKkmqPE/4uN9urdK25D6rpNt6Zt1lhmivpJZafXG+RUdtDu3xL/YTH/ 9q/NKwXIb3RVqRogfga1hGoBriyIszojOC7rCEl1Mq2fSLM1hCY8E9aGsCsx0kmxMy8G cRJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2KGm6x+0eMN7LIatMIY3dD8yL60ekPXdr9kSLEiCL71yP6mDJI 5A6W+XmIe9tUSI4i6WOi9xWgPdeZXkKLQCbL1z4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLWUXQyb13UV+crohxPDsUE9233I6JEa4kEYCoKab0XKthV8M237z7e6NZ2whVdNKt0VujuEv9owPjblgtNcFI= X-Received: by 2002:a19:15d4:: with SMTP id 81-v6mr12175054lfv.129.1529508603366; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:30:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5db0cafc33dd36dd9bc279f035cce3a0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <5db0cafc33dd36dd9bc279f035cce3a0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> From: Radon Rosborough Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:29:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#31908: Save file locks in centralized location To: psainty@orcon.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+psainty=orcon.net.nz@gnu.org, 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > If users had their own custom location for locks, surely the locking > would cease to have any significant purpose [...] The utility would > be reduced to preventing you from simultaneously using multiple > separate emacs instances to edit/write a given file. I run a single-user system; preventing concurrent edits is the only purpose of the locking mechanism for me. This feature would hardly remove "any significant purpose" from it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 21 04:34:59 2018 Received: (at 31908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2018 08:34:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVv3S-0006JG-Vk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 04:34:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:35258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fVv3R-0006J4-Pu for 31908@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 04:34:58 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j15-v6so4357910wme.0 for <31908@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:34:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=uDLi7dvaEVFZu4TrJGDM1Fg2XOfc+Rx0aaS/9YZ7Ifc=; b=KSKvIbHJV0hphw5ZRBtWED+0XyZGONB/LCW/bZD1xOy9ffEkcL9NPh3LGWrTSITUmk bxazY5xImv3ffErc9J8y+M91utGefsQk3VaTQHN9bZgAsjnq9icRwwf4bPHxRMOJWQ3m qXn7umlMGJhbyv43bGHmasT4S9yvqtgkdKz83+UeTeOpyFtjHpM2bvS8KREJOObY0a5Z czTGmD1AgqwfSx6z1HhCmPttx9jHgw9P9Vgi3Kvp3e3B3kAk4BgEuASd5RfVAnWaPX6/ 03RuWLJQU77ycsD8XCS6pkk6YpmQPhyTtNRbBKVJvCqqOLPL0YXPI4AhnfigHZK+Rqgi 4BZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=uDLi7dvaEVFZu4TrJGDM1Fg2XOfc+Rx0aaS/9YZ7Ifc=; b=rdeNfcIZHJJ6jlMSpTh+JoEl2gzZNbW10HlSI0tyRjBRbgQ+4mg62GmyX44hPEUbgT JaOCHIKJOLrIu2W0NItO1l9t+4ZpAoxAooKzSVyepRh2LlvLP9vTQ3NBZOoymruOJq8z 1LS7uIAfbUBd++/3OIKWtgR3o7cdXroDFQTb3U1eW+qr2Oo8Fo/lHSXRZYjHTot3BPjA Uefn/kZHPckBqyKTQFuBAjcJjuOJU/7uyHm9v+becUzisFCaou6dnOyxPumTrECcvqTr REJ22zA3m+cxEPrm+cDhziYFV6yXKUFWFN8LZZJcbfo5fNGPa4/4eWED/E9jAdG0XgoB Fjqg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1DdUrb8t1dCr7PnNACNYTFvwOXi72gp5yA1R10fnw4Z1GZ/2ds oAvcQpN0OBN5S3HFwtiAWrWZVBJlKPk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLhRWETOmUKpn0TZqXzDlaYHpbKhAmPJ6hBvPo7W0x9u28C10QQEkxEM1CSLAgZr7kYbrbjCw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4743:: with SMTP id u64-v6mr4169172wma.49.1529570091917; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v14-v6sm4770072wro.33.2018.06.21.01.34.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Radon Rosborough Subject: Re: bug#31908: Save file locks in centralized location References: <5db0cafc33dd36dd9bc279f035cce3a0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:34:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:29:26 -0600") Message-ID: <877ems4jx1.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+psainty=orcon.net.nz@gnu.org, 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Radon Rosborough writes: >> If users had their own custom location for locks, surely the locking >> would cease to have any significant purpose [...] The utility would >> be reduced to preventing you from simultaneously using multiple >> separate emacs instances to edit/write a given file. > > I run a single-user system; preventing concurrent edits is the only > purpose of the locking mechanism for me. This feature would hardly > remove "any significant purpose" from it. If implemented, this feature would almost certainly be off by default, so no existing users would end up being surprised. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 21 12:02:26 2018 Received: (at 31908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2018 16:02:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fW22U-0003cN-9Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 12:02:26 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:32936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fW22S-0003c7-2d for 31908@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 12:02:24 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f50.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so5109324lfy.0 for <31908@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=V9zlJpwqW5iB1+4liz2WUSL+CP/vSFYZZk5lSzRoGGQ=; b=urkvkRPFDqM6+30Ud/PAhVQa4hi5SC/m0LHxLN002mcpmJA+R0LOFMsdbpFWY3COnc guYnyXaR700t0LwVYWQnt61wWmb2HR4aoLUMO1TQwCnr9aMl0c+QJmiCEV4GXQLBpMjf +rbOyDUCBkaD6lhmfDnvfH4U2YRdIJ5DptjRa0p3T+Kot//1Xiu/Trc/q8sox2e/LjGV 9UT5S9n7fqQ8Vu1EmkDn/ZnjgPQ7ISc/5KXciwk1ilt1bYurRajMDoUNJ8boMsl02TN0 AMrKabxSPNjopGV5Op3C0vP+zVbXANvNurONqtT4EVJi2q72A0WM6o4gEQ9dEc1ToH2+ t64Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V9zlJpwqW5iB1+4liz2WUSL+CP/vSFYZZk5lSzRoGGQ=; b=sqUdZZ3reRjhTU4BPnEzgVR8/zy0HrekRYVXlGSybJNCQpTVL31Yc+T4vzAQIxZOcV FZjBL0PO4/Clveym9npSPHmZ1ZKH0OHIt0p/1q3hmueL0RXQFBiZwKpj2+IsnMgsK+/3 t2CiPMLjt3ssIy+edRaeSYztPIieSlcoJjIhMIhCKpRZr//5RD57kQ/2IcmLgDMlmhX9 WcePtlB6KEhY1oS1PbTUyZnL49KLdFQjvC4PxkSf7lFtJXpeAinZdEFq7e/aXIuCDc0a EuGsIzhL4kB/xK1IN/x0bJwugPLqUv7yv9+ZrPpaxDF1QEQ4sik64fQl32hTqeUr6Qth ULdA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0UqAOsBTNVMfrCSHxLGynw/bXlKrOLOlsFTP1EAgM9ATe99dN2 4YIpu5eAK0DglVOFuLsVHr/nNbR2cbx/Ge9ZAyA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKbgwe1cLmdJyZC6GqVlJhSDQXsIZYwBxKyTGBVKd2bKG2zCoOgXhQHWzVhur5qgjmT86XkHQXrL7pdeGRP2WE= X-Received: by 2002:a19:5483:: with SMTP id b3-v6mr15303545lfl.128.1529596938092; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5db0cafc33dd36dd9bc279f035cce3a0@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <877ems4jx1.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <877ems4jx1.fsf@gmail.com> From: Radon Rosborough Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:01:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#31908: Save file locks in centralized location To: rpluim@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+psainty=orcon.net.nz@gnu.org, 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > If implemented, this feature would almost certainly be off by > default, so no existing users would end up being surprised. That doesn't bother me in the slightest, and I agree with your conclusion. 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--00000000000014f71405813dfd5a-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 06 14:40:04 2019 Received: (at 31908) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2019 19:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grT3E-00046j-97 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:40:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48185) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1grT3B-000468-PC for 31908@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:40:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grT36-0001pZ-A9; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:39:56 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4509 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1grT33-0001eK-O1; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:39:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 21:39:41 +0200 Message-Id: <83imxwso3m.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mauro Mandracchia In-reply-to: (message from Mauro Mandracchia on Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:35:11 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#31908: Save file locks in centralized location References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Mauro Mandracchia > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:35:11 +0100 > > Is there any update on this? Not that I know of, sorry. Patches to implement this are welcome. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Radon Rosborough writes: > While you have an unsaved buffer, Emacs creates a lock file [1] in the > current directory. This is useful to prevent concurrent edits, but it > is also annoying to have the extra file around: for e [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31908 Cc: 31908@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Radon Rosborough writes: > While you have an unsaved buffer, Emacs creates a lock file [1] in the > current directory. This is useful to prevent concurrent edits, but it > is also annoying to have the extra file around: for example, if you > save frequently while you have a Dired pane with a fast Auto Revert > enabled in another window, the lock file will keep appearing and > disappearing rapidly. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) This has been fixed for Emacs 28 by the introduction of the `lock-file-name-transforms' variable, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 23 08:50:07 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2022 13:50:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBdFv-0004ET-GX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:50:07 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nBdFt-0004DX-Pa for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:50:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1sMjFV5hHDWh3W2lUGqX+C4hfGxymIGBRAT7P1bOKXk=; b=QG1V8qSQ9+PllCCqZOo1nkd4JA 8fvbgCIZGSIJ6y6kyPCN1hY1V3QBarYupck7UQWas9zU3Txs2kx8H2s4dS0b4HPyh4X2t9DTuKotj 1rsIWqVAr1n+P+0zt3Avpr0DWBxBscEFbyv8t53aG+xdHb5IE0U1VUygadnaJaEY+Kfc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nBdFl-0005QX-JQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:49:59 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:49:57 +0100 Message-Id: <87mtjma7ei.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #31908 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 31908 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 31908 28.1 quit From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:14:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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