From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:14:40 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#31873 <31873@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#31873 <31873@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: head/tail --help K != N Reply-To: bug#31873 <31873@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:14:40 +0000 retitle 31873 head/tail --help K !=3D N reassign 31873 coreutils submitter 31873 Karl Berry severity 31873 normal tag 31873 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 17 17:47:37 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2018 21:47:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54118 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfWK-0005La-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfWI-0005LL-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfWC-0004zD-5d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:28 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfWC-0004z8-2E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33979) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfWB-000329-3f for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfW7-0004xf-7U for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:27 -0400 Received: from freefriends.org ([96.88.95.60]:51070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUfW6-0004x7-Vy for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:47:23 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id w5HLlL4U001868 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:47:21 -0600 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/submit) id w5HLlK5r001867; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:47:20 GMT Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:47:20 GMT Message-Id: <201806172147.w5HLlK5r001867@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: nobody set sender to karl@freefriends.org using -f From: Karl Berry To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: head/tail --help K != N X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) It's just an idea, and a tiny one at that, but I was momentarily perplexed by the lines like -n, --lines=[-]K in head --help, making it look like the number is given in kilobytes, when I knew that was not correct :). So I suggest replacing K with N in the --help messages when the metavar is standing for just a number, especially/only a number that takes a suffix. FWIW ... --best, karl. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 17 18:20:46 2018 Received: (at 31873) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2018 22:20:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUg2Q-0006GN-I8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:20:46 -0400 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:40394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUg2O-0006GB-NQ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:20:45 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [76.21.115.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D64F59FFF; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:20:42 +0100 (IST) Subject: Re: bug#31873: head/tail --help K != N To: Karl Berry , 31873@debbugs.gnu.org References: <201806172147.w5HLlK5r001867@freefriends.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=c3=a1draig_Brady?= Message-ID: <2bf827c8-f0c3-b7b5-c04a-76eaa8b7752d@draigBrady.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 15:20:41 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201806172147.w5HLlK5r001867@freefriends.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31873 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tag 31873 notabug close 31873 stop On 17/06/18 14:47, Karl Berry wrote: > It's just an idea, and a tiny one at that, but I was momentarily > perplexed by the lines like > -n, --lines=[-]K > in head --help, making it look like the number is given in kilobytes, > when I knew that was not correct :). > > So I suggest replacing K with N in the --help messages when the metavar > is standing for just a number, especially/only a number that takes a > suffix. FWIW ... --best, karl. Already done for a while now in: https://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commitdiff;h=v8.24-101-gf7ab20c cheers, Pádraig From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:14:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:24:11 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator