From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:43:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#31737 <31737@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#31737 <31737@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail Reply-To: bug#31737 <31737@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 05:43:42 +0000 retitle 31737 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail reassign 31737 emacs submitter 31737 Robert Pluim severity 31737 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 06 15:24:24 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2018 19:24:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2d-0003Pj-JC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49953) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2Y-0003PP-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2O-0000Mh-Vj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:08 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:54533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2O-0000MZ-S6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2K-0001dB-Ms for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2G-0000ER-0N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:24:00 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]:50207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fQe2F-0000De-PA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:23:55 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id e16-v6so13516074wmd.0 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s6hROEvB8yA+zHohjaLJTuSHEDMGUNZ/FTIekZJ53JA=; b=gmjxsZtNISuIr3X+OlzymtcHA2Xi3sIoVwpQDVPWdk6b6myhviCLJVYGHLorp0kUZD FnrCD6zCzhSyKEgk8ldcSuU9M30wNKCXK267umej/vC1pvfBhKt/4yRpaNBcsAl6XCAJ zYPrig+wgOIk3PTdCvXAN+ldD9mRbKjTUK8nA4t8hbqTzhVBYEsXtgC6bH+1ijNJc22e de7QH3jXJE2QHr/oSM5EVelXJ8+aMV4/gUJU47K/EEZQF64NI6yJTiwV9aXTBFIZ4S8h SEunFE+8Oe1t2aPvf+wr37GSW42PYspSTSBap4CbcaNoI++n+elimh0604l+wKNs4M0r I+xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s6hROEvB8yA+zHohjaLJTuSHEDMGUNZ/FTIekZJ53JA=; b=B6ep5XJreKosVCvDH/nn8StCNbWCHao9nnyiFi7Apk5XaWShxwlWV9miAVtM/JZTWE CjHQRkcP4L0CGSy9WBhZRNZeLZjzXoSH9hQG5oLkf5nYyg1mK9nSI+WJVEH3Tnutjg4Z 3ncfMuPDyZBJVuMUL0Qn98WkSlXqJ9HOCuByxsVWhBkH5S7hRCPRoax5tLI+NYNVOxLM zaBFDY3/uOGiLtHSXYkxHt3o2I9jEk7xaApRPH9xJqXHsU4hsPoKF3CsR9Zc94xly0w6 BAbc8h9uq9wIokAjkZNqfqQKdHQ8F/SazlljxK2o+11sW6lv9VmiZ7u3buok/v/Doqjk bzWw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3jFCc8MAUI7BWpoVpJqcO5joQr/rp8haVf5MXBth43PiLUALyN Mkw2W/diMcft9vfMRTbm7dyzJ2XD5a0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKK0IsBuLevQ0vSI40ld+IQom+K16uBP1z6yOklFfJnqowKPOUJOeF8vQsM4iq/oQbKfk1y92g== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:45db:: with SMTP id l88-v6mr2454659wmi.19.1528313034398; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim (vav06-1-78-207-202-134.fbx.proxad.net. [78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p189-v6sm5481844wmg.18.2018.06.06.12.23.53 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:23:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is based on message <87po162oze.fsf@nwalsh.com> to ding@gnus.org, where someone noted that emacs-26 no longer installs movemail, breaking his Gnus setup [1]. In `mail-source-movemail' in lisp/gnus/mail-source.el, Gnus only looks in exec-directory for movemail, even though configure looked in PATH to find mailutils movemail and decide not to install Emacs' movemail. (rmail doesn=CA=BCt have this issue, it does runtime detection) Gnus should probably look in at least exec-path for movemail (after exec-directory). One way to do this would be to change the default value of `mail-source-movemail-program to be' (executable-find "movemail"), but that has the risk of silently switching emacs to using mailutils' movemail instead of the emacs one. Also, mailutils' movemail has a '--emacs' flag which rmail uses. It=CA=BCs = not immediately obvious to me if gnus should do the same or not. Robert Footnotes:=20 [1] I guess people no longer use movemail that much, otherwise this would have been noticed sooner From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 06 15:48:10 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2018 19:48:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fQePf-0003zY-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:48:10 -0400 Received: from forward100o.mail.yandex.net ([37.140.190.180]:41288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fQePa-0003yy-0q for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:48:05 -0400 Received: from mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (mxback5g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:166]) by forward100o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 32F932A27611; Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:47:55 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::27]) by mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id wCVhLURhyA-lnDiDJ7Q; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 22:47:49 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1528314469; bh=iJYEDnCmPit5Qk9ddk1QHIGmL6KHH01lUIW6qbd/i5c=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=KaHJzQWLbidEVST+jiEupo8ff56ZaUfyCR4XmdnVVtP+9InR/AAeb37XMHc1s+rqL 2+zxJlgC/HZ5P/FKOX2KXLKoJMknQ7QrZBRdfgBuO2YRiq7ljCCJjrwzmsQjrKymGS 2bnX9M/jv/3eYxVP2Q3hWc8iNXPBqKm/y1k+kNrs= Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Z43fYcAcw7-llqOMqCP; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 22:47:48 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1528314468; bh=iJYEDnCmPit5Qk9ddk1QHIGmL6KHH01lUIW6qbd/i5c=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=UaNj2QBTsHCndtNgYxNH9Bp669GNsneVYxpzL5eZpYE6lc9Hn1t1wG9nvWLzesj1y 7Ia2yQvWFj9GSeSQTWgxR0kxmlrJCJWGrsOMUEI+TpaHrqXbDlrxqePmpknt7aC2a2 jaOh5efc4KYKJHFPnZqZHYyGhgCmQlD6bVcCOv9s= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:47:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:23:52 +0200") Message-ID: <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAMCAIAAACfoWgaAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA WElEQVQ4jWP0zalkgIH+FYcZsIHCCFus4rgAMeYwkWQiFQHL09vX4ZylP55jVYSshhhAjDks0qqa cE702TdYNZxBUkMMIMacAQvq0TjGqmE0jqkBRl4cAwDug0IMHgZrSwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> "Robert" =3D=3D Robert Pluim writes: Robert> This is based on message <87po162oze.fsf@nwalsh.com> to Robert> ding@gnus.org, where someone noted that emacs-26 no longer Robert> installs movemail, breaking his Gnus setup [1]. Robert> In `mail-source-movemail' in lisp/gnus/mail-source.el, Gnus Robert> only looks in exec-directory for movemail, even though Robert> configure looked in PATH to find mailutils movemail and Robert> decide not to install Emacs' movemail. (rmail doesn=CA=BCt have Robert> this issue, it does runtime detection) Robert> Gnus should probably look in at least exec-path for movemail Robert> (after exec-directory). One way to do this would be to Robert> change the default value of `mail-source-movemail-program to Robert> be' (executable-find "movemail"), but that has the risk of Robert> silently switching emacs to using mailutils' movemail Robert> instead of the emacs one. Robert> Also, mailutils' movemail has a '--emacs' flag which rmail Robert> uses. It=CA=BCs not immediately obvious to me if gnus should do Robert> the same or not. I don't know whether my input will be relevant, but here goes. I use gnus and have had no trouble with movemail. In emacs-26.1 I compiled using ./configure --with-mailutils and in my ~/.emacs I point the mail-source-movemail-program to "/usr/bin/movemail". Everything works fine. 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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b16-v6sm14793624wrm.15.2018.06.06.12.55.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:55:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Colin Baxter Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:55:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:47:47 +0100") Message-ID: <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>> "Robert" =3D=3D Robert Pluim writes: > > Robert> Gnus should probably look in at least exec-path for movemail > Robert> (after exec-directory). One way to do this would be to > Robert> change the default value of `mail-source-movemail-program to > Robert> be' (executable-find "movemail"), but that has the risk of > Robert> silently switching emacs to using mailutils' movemail > Robert> instead of the emacs one. > > Robert> Also, mailutils' movemail has a '--emacs' flag which rmail > Robert> uses. It=CA=BCs not immediately obvious to me if gnus should = do > Robert> the same or not. > > I don't know whether my input will be relevant, but here goes. > I think it=CA=BCs very relevant. > I use gnus and have had no trouble with movemail. In emacs-26.1 I > compiled using ./configure --with-mailutils and in my ~/.emacs I point > the mail-source-movemail-program to "/usr/bin/movemail". Everything > works fine. So it looks like the --emacs flag is not necessary, which means we could just change the default of mail-source-movemail-progam. [1] Robert Footnotes:=20 [1] Eli, 26.2? This is an emacs-26 regression From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 08 11:33:48 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2018 15:33:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39842 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRJOe-0007za-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRJOa-0007zM-ML for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:33:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRJOS-0002MH-7H for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:33:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRJOS-0002MC-45; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:33:36 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1682 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fRJOR-00011J-Ez; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:33:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:33:34 +0300 Message-Id: <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:55:20 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:55:20 +0200 > Cc: 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I use gnus and have had no trouble with movemail. In emacs-26.1 I > > compiled using ./configure --with-mailutils and in my ~/.emacs I point > > the mail-source-movemail-program to "/usr/bin/movemail". Everything > > works fine. > > So it looks like the --emacs flag is not necessary, which means we > could just change the default of mail-source-movemail-progam. [1] Sorry, I don't think I follow: mail-source-movemail-progam is a variable in Gnus, and its default is nil. And I don't see how you concluded that the --emacs flag is unnecessary: the Mailutils manual says it causes movemail to "output information used by Emacs rmail interface", i.e. this is unrelated to Gnus. > Footnotes: > [1] Eli, 26.2? This is an emacs-26 regression What exactly was the regression, and which change do you propose for the branch? Thanks. 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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 19-v6sm75104317wrz.7.2018.06.08.09.01.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:01:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:33:34 +0300") Message-ID: <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:55:20 +0200 >> Cc: 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> > I use gnus and have had no trouble with movemail. In emacs-26.1 I >> > compiled using ./configure --with-mailutils and in my ~/.emacs I point >> > the mail-source-movemail-program to "/usr/bin/movemail". Everything >> > works fine. >>=20 >> So it looks like the --emacs flag is not necessary, which means we >> could just change the default of mail-source-movemail-progam. [1] > > Sorry, I don't think I follow: mail-source-movemail-progam is a > variable in Gnus, and its default is nil. Yes, and in that case Gnus looks for movemail in 'exec-directory' only, where emacs no longer installs it if it found Mailutils movemail at configure time. > And I don't see how you concluded that the --emacs flag is > unnecessary: the Mailutils manual says it causes movemail to "output > information used by Emacs rmail interface", i.e. this is unrelated to > Gnus. It wasn't a firm conclusion, it was a tentative one based on one report. There=CA=BCs no real documentation on the '--emacs' flag that I could find. >> Footnotes:=20 >> [1] Eli, 26.2? This is an emacs-26 regression > > What exactly was the regression, and which change do you propose for > the branch? Gnus can no longer use movemail, even though at configure time it was found. The simplest fix is below, but it will cause people who currently have Mailutils movemail installed, but an emacs built to not use it, to start using it, so it makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps gnus should check in 'exec-directory' first if mail-source-movemail-program is nil, and then fall back to 'executable-find'? Or perhaps we should just forget about 'our' movemail and require people to install Mailutils. diff --git i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el index d2850f4cee..1e328c9b43 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ mail-source-idle-time-delay :group 'mail-source :type 'number) =20 -(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program nil +(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program (executable-find "movemail") "If non-nil, name of program for fetching new mail." :version "22.1" :group 'mail-source From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 08 14:15:24 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2018 18:15:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRLv2-0005E5-6f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:15:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34728) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRLv1-0005Dt-65 for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:15:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRLus-00043f-Ea for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:15:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRLus-00043b-Bv; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:15:14 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1805 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fRLuq-0002WP-RM; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:15:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 21:15:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:01:14 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:01:14 +0200 > > > Sorry, I don't think I follow: mail-source-movemail-progam is a > > variable in Gnus, and its default is nil. > > Yes, and in that case Gnus looks for movemail in 'exec-directory' > only, where emacs no longer installs it if it found Mailutils > movemail at configure time. But then the fix should be where mail-source-movemail-progam is used, not in its default value, right? Gnus should use executable-find to look for the program named by mail-source-movemail-progam. > >> [1] Eli, 26.2? This is an emacs-26 regression > > > > What exactly was the regression, and which change do you propose for > > the branch? > > Gnus can no longer use movemail, even though at configure time it was > found. And why is that an emacs-26 regression? the value of that variable hasn't changed since 2004, AFAICS. > The simplest fix is below, but it will cause people who currently have > Mailutils movemail installed, but an emacs built to not use it, to > start using it, so it makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps gnus should > check in 'exec-directory' first if mail-source-movemail-program is > nil, and then fall back to 'executable-find'? I see no need for any special handling by Emacs here: the user could customize the value to point to "our" movemail as an absolute file name, in which case executable-find will pick it up. We just need to change Gnus to use executable-find where the variable is used. 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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s17-v6sm1067756wmc.34.2018.06.08.11.47.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:47:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 20:47:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2018 21:15:14 +0300") Message-ID: <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:01:14 +0200 >>=20 >> > Sorry, I don't think I follow: mail-source-movemail-progam is a >> > variable in Gnus, and its default is nil. >>=20 >> Yes, and in that case Gnus looks for movemail in 'exec-directory' >> only, where emacs no longer installs it if it found Mailutils >> movemail at configure time. > > But then the fix should be where mail-source-movemail-progam is used, > not in its default value, right? Gnus should use executable-find to > look for the program named by mail-source-movemail-progam. > It blindly calls call-process at the moment, rather than using executable-find, but that=CA=BCs a separate issue. >> >> [1] Eli, 26.2? This is an emacs-26 regression >> > >> > What exactly was the regression, and which change do you propose for >> > the branch? >>=20 >> Gnus can no longer use movemail, even though at configure time it was >> found. > > And why is that an emacs-26 regression? the value of that variable > hasn't changed since 2004, AFAICS. Pre-emacs 26 gnus used the 'builtin' movemail. That movemail is no longer installed, because configure found the Mailutils one. But gnus doesn=CA=BCt use the Mailutils one. So the end result from the user's perspective is "emacs disabled its own movemail because I have Mailutils installed, but then doesn=CA=BCt use the Mailutils movemail" We can call it a regression or not, but it=CA=BCs an unexpected outcome. >> The simplest fix is below, but it will cause people who currently have >> Mailutils movemail installed, but an emacs built to not use it, to >> start using it, so it makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps gnus should >> check in 'exec-directory' first if mail-source-movemail-program is >> nil, and then fall back to 'executable-find'? > > I see no need for any special handling by Emacs here: the user could > customize the value to point to "our" movemail as an absolute file > name, in which case executable-find will pick it up. We just need to > change Gnus to use executable-find where the variable is used. In emacs-26 there is no "our" movemail to point at when Mailutils were detected, and asking the user to customize a variable to get back to where they were before feels wrong as well. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 08 15:21:02 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2018 19:21:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRMwX-0000M0-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:21:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRMwV-0000Le-UU for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:21:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRMwL-0004sN-Qe for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:20:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRMwL-0004sG-Mn; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:20:49 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1984 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fRMwL-0002Vd-0Z; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:20:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 22:20:50 +0300 Message-Id: <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 08 Jun 2018 20:47:53 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 20:47:53 +0200 > > > But then the fix should be where mail-source-movemail-progam is used, > > not in its default value, right? Gnus should use executable-find to > > look for the program named by mail-source-movemail-progam. > > > > It blindly calls call-process at the moment, rather than using > executable-find, but thatʼs a separate issue. But call-process looks up the program along exec-path, and exec-path puts exec-directory at its end. Right? So if GNU Mailutils are installed and on PATH, Gnus should find its movemail first, right? Or am I missing something? IOW, if Gnus calls call-process, then it already uses executable-find, albeit internally. > >> The simplest fix is below, but it will cause people who currently have > >> Mailutils movemail installed, but an emacs built to not use it, to > >> start using it, so it makes me uncomfortable. Perhaps gnus should > >> check in 'exec-directory' first if mail-source-movemail-program is > >> nil, and then fall back to 'executable-find'? > > > > I see no need for any special handling by Emacs here: the user could > > customize the value to point to "our" movemail as an absolute file > > name, in which case executable-find will pick it up. We just need to > > change Gnus to use executable-find where the variable is used. > > In emacs-26 there is no "our" movemail to point at when Mailutils were > detected, and asking the user to customize a variable to get back to > where they were before feels wrong as well. We are mis-communicating, I think. The situation you described in which you feel uncomfortable was that both Mailutils and "our" movemail are installed. If that's not the situation, then what makes you uncomfortable about a case where only one movemail is available and Gnus uses it? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 04:27:23 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2018 08:27:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42755 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSIAd-0007DP-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 04:27:23 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f169.google.com ([209.85.128.169]:36236) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSIAc-0007DC-Cb for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 04:27:22 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f169.google.com with SMTP id f16-v6so19386344wrm.3 for <31737@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sdc5Dh7W9fRhYeapdVXZVvd0UTEwS4WeEZmn2U68PoA=; b=SJnWH00Yh/85E2CcAXWewxRqWYMUUZHOXD+bh+e9gmo2iOzCFTcxYzdqMqssWClrkl vpLxVOGvdxSnx6eaQWAPBBJ2iQ1OlfqI+LxQeJYRiGx6QA0JWuPaeMj6sSokP4CPxnTM YcLMsBeDBOOPBfFSCCfAvoK/5B59C/2/RNtID3OQpfSY3vhAE19ZaHGkLVKqNOKFAfgU IyoBx3o3re+awcVMBok0ax0BdtC3wvYiDWqHqiuOCMz2pOBT6rPAlGtsfnwTgkaQjVJ7 oPGsAcmpAlgcq1MBMfQDISrrnf39JxyE/oEzjIkivz8GxHXXv12cJY+gjmBxX+6JYCHq Ff5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sdc5Dh7W9fRhYeapdVXZVvd0UTEwS4WeEZmn2U68PoA=; b=Xs60jJnDNcDO8iecptqBN4NrcS/WB3B9QiOZ87dh8EyXProEEe97pGFMiWVAV9hD2l Xt0NHQO1ym0agqMXVd7gYDY+dsZ3xMrooUyvAng6S0/R7upU5AJ5VEqbRXFWae3MpC8O FhDHx475NgniEFOUWM+YfvmLeV9eLmZTGARYtVWsrPaJOCCEIBBUsqutXnikOIlGyy4p LHXasd4/xUxwqoa8RhWRKKhw+LETE1iHPYMM2u8odpz25RGc6Uflr8/uG4KaJxTAccEY uvgPGZI5duKyh83uLQj9mhSMLdEkqTmDcKwSH0ff/1B32IPIrtsGltcx93YWKf+v6oUd ymaw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2YrC+4PkiLDf25yQuXyhrmdnQhaXSB1pFu27qY6qwR8z7tRcZC 1/i/D8TR9d3DM7TvQU6FRN+6hpNp X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJJHPhZTCMXwy4jRfmWm+gfUs/UYuG/M2WxwO6u7rTFRLpYPTMSCpVhFV/Pr0LTTGR2WHEgmw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:9525:: with SMTP id 34-v6mr11327648wrs.99.1528705636109; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v68-v6sm12623668wmd.12.2018.06.11.01.27.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:27:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:27:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Jun 2018 22:20:50 +0300") Message-ID: <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 20:47:53 +0200 >>=20 >> > But then the fix should be where mail-source-movemail-progam is used, >> > not in its default value, right? Gnus should use executable-find to >> > look for the program named by mail-source-movemail-progam. >> > >>=20 >> It blindly calls call-process at the moment, rather than using >> executable-find, but that=CA=BCs a separate issue. > > But call-process looks up the program along exec-path, and exec-path > puts exec-directory at its end. Right? So if GNU Mailutils are > installed and on PATH, Gnus should find its movemail first, right? Or > am I missing something? > > IOW, if Gnus calls call-process, then it already uses executable-find, > albeit internally. As noted on emacs-devel, gnus passes (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory) to call-process, so it doesn=CA=BCt search in $PATH. I think the current suggested fix is this: (append (list (or mail-source-movemail-program - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) + "movemail" nil errors nil from to))))) (when (file-exists-p to) (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) That will work for people who have Mailutils installed in $PATH, and for those who don=CA=BCt it should use the exec-directory one. The only issue is that people who install Mailutils after they've built emacs will now be switched to using the Mailutils movemail, with no indication that it=CA=BCs happened. Robert PS The possible requirement for passing '--emacs' to movemail is still not clear to me. Rmail cares whether it=CA=BCs using Mailutils, but I don= =CA=BCt know if Gnus does. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 11:20:18 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2018 15:20:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSOcE-0001XM-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:20:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49859) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSOcC-0001X9-AK for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:20:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSOc1-0002gH-GR for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:20:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSOc1-0002g0-CX; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:20:05 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2066 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fSOc0-00034K-Pc; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:20:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:20:12 +0300 Message-Id: <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:27:13 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:27:13 +0200 > > I think the current suggested fix is this: > > (append > (list > (or mail-source-movemail-program > - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) > + "movemail" > nil errors nil from to))))) > (when (file-exists-p to) > (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) > > That will work for people who have Mailutils installed in $PATH, and > for those who donʼt it should use the exec-directory one. > > The only issue is that people who install Mailutils after they've > built emacs will now be switched to using the Mailutils movemail, with > no indication that itʼs happened. Which is what we want, I think, given the message output by 'configure'. So I think we should install the above. 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[83.233.67.151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q73-v6sm1575353lje.53.2018.06.11.14.47.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:47:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:20:12 +0300") Message-ID: <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:27:13 +0200 >>=20 >> I think the current suggested fix is this: >>=20 >> (append >> (list >> (or mail-source-movemail-program >> - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) >> + "movemail" >> nil errors nil from to))))) >> (when (file-exists-p to) >> (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) >>=20 >> That will work for people who have Mailutils installed in $PATH, and >> for those who don=CA=BCt it should use the exec-directory one. >>=20 >> The only issue is that people who install Mailutils after they've >> built emacs will now be switched to using the Mailutils movemail, with >> no indication that it=CA=BCs happened. > > Which is what we want, I think, given the message output by > 'configure'. > OK > So I think we should install the above. Are we sure enough that '--emacs' is not needed? Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 22:28:58 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2018 02:28:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSZ3K-00081r-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:28:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56758) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSZ3J-00081f-FR for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:28:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSZ3D-0001e6-G8 for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:28:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSZ3D-0001dy-Ci; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:28:51 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3257 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fSZ3C-00055R-OP; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:28:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:29:00 +0300 Message-Id: <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:12 +0200 > > Are we sure enough that '--emacs' is not needed? I don't know. I don't use Gnus, and I don't really know what that option in Mailutils does. If someone here can explain what it does, we can make the decision; otherwise, we will leave Gnus to its devices. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 12 02:12:20 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2018 06:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fScXU-0006nh-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:12:20 -0400 Received: from forward100p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.100]:47313) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fScXS-0006nU-QB for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:12:19 -0400 Received: from mxback10o.mail.yandex.net (mxback10o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::24]) by forward100p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8CA7B510515D; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:12:12 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4p.mail.yandex.net (smtp4p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1402::15:6]) by mxback10o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id Vz6p7vE0QU-CC1qeOY6; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:12:12 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1528783932; bh=QL1Bh+JD7q3AETb28MbLOhtMk1zBULKF/b2dY/yekec=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=k0dp9/NoKPoOKNbLmCAd7Ddoy/VkNxWoCRP0+Lka86LGtrqphayZTUHKHPiuKFKnH EjgN3dVRg2oUbWcyn+qBcLFKnL7vBAdDC/uQmufsB1rHu7/UF92FrwTi8fyyePNDCF dJE2rz6fo/zIBpSOG3dSHdJJC4DyteFkO7+2vmcc= Received: by smtp4p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id l6cM9Wuuee-CAfGxjTm; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:12:11 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1528783931; bh=QL1Bh+JD7q3AETb28MbLOhtMk1zBULKF/b2dY/yekec=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=L7wiaea8PChTD8LDZM6WdbxfNMCX06sedY9sp4HmdScpju/Y2KdNFVkxVpeLxDkKo tX8SOw9d4OLSuc9mLd4AN2rube0km/IHmTUyO1NIyxW2LCLdmQZf66lTM5386EaAde YbBx3oGvd6BjQjfE9qprpqbL9ck565iqMN1bHiPM= Authentication-Results: smtp4p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:12:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 05:29:00 +0300") Message-ID: <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAMCAIAAACfoWgaAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA SUlEQVQ4jWM8ffo0AyrIyMhgoDaYMWMGmggT1e0gErDw8PCgCTEzM1PdGkxbBs7HX758QRP6+/cv 1a3BtGU0jukGRuOYYdjHMQAEnRfUh1QX6AAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: , Robert Pluim , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, >> 31737@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:12 +0200 >> >> Are we sure enough that '--emacs' is not needed? Eli> I don't know. I don't use Gnus, and I don't really know what Eli> that option in Mailutils does. If someone here can explain Eli> what it does, we can make the decision; otherwise, we will Eli> leave Gnus to its devices. According to the movemail man page, the --emacs option is only used by rmail not gnus. My email setup uses both rmail and gnus and I've never used that option. Best wishes, From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 12 10:41:18 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2018 14:41:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSkU1-000257-Si for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:41:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58720) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSkU0-00024u-Cz for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:41:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSkTr-0000Hm-Ss for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:41:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37887) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSkTr-0000HQ-OG; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:41:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3870 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fSkTr-0001Lh-4z; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:41:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:41:16 +0300 Message-Id: <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Colin Baxter , Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> (message from Colin Baxter on Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:12:09 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Colin Baxter > Cc: Robert Pluim , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:12:09 +0100 > > >>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Robert Pluim Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, > >> 31737@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 23:47:12 +0200 > >> > >> Are we sure enough that '--emacs' is not needed? > > Eli> I don't know. I don't use Gnus, and I don't really know what > Eli> that option in Mailutils does. If someone here can explain > Eli> what it does, we can make the decision; otherwise, we will > Eli> leave Gnus to its devices. > > According to the movemail man page, the --emacs option is only used by > rmail not gnus. My email setup uses both rmail and gnus and I've never > used that option. The man page isn't useful in this regard, it obviously assumes that no user needs to understand what that option does. So I "used the source", and it turns out that this option simply countermands some configuration settings that users could set up which will then get in the way of movemail's invocation by Emacs. As to whether Gnus should also use that option -- I think it should, because the code in mail-source.el which invokes movemail is an almost exact copy of its sibling in rmail.el. It's quite possible that Gnus simply uses some old version of what's in Rmail. (In particular, rmail.el already does what I suggested to do in order to invoke movemail from mailutils in preference to the version which comes with Emacs.) So I'm CC'ing Lars in the hope that he will decide what to do with these two issues. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 12 14:24:54 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2018 18:24:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45324 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSnyP-0007DI-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:24:54 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSnyM-0007D8-MC for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:24:52 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.221.165.getinternet.no ([84.212.221.165] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSnyI-0003G2-MI; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 20:24:48 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 20:24:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:41:16 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: Colin Baxter , rpluim@gmail.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > As to whether Gnus should also use that option -- I think it should, > because the code in mail-source.el which invokes movemail is an almost > exact copy of its sibling in rmail.el. It's quite possible that Gnus > simply uses some old version of what's in Rmail. (In particular, > rmail.el already does what I suggested to do in order to invoke > movemail from mailutils in preference to the version which comes with > Emacs.) > > So I'm CC'ing Lars in the hope that he will decide what to do with > these two issues. I don't think that mail-source needs that --emacs switch -- it never has, I think? But from what you say, it probably doesn't hurt... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 13 10:09:10 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2018 14:09:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fT6SR-0006TX-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:09:10 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]:40646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fT6SL-0006T0-PE for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:09:05 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f53.google.com with SMTP id n5-v6so5667390wmc.5 for <31737@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PFji7v9BuN0cVIbKYEf3Z9rG2l3tsEYJvJIGPaQO90U=; b=a7k/Z3lVOP8tF/D4PBNsSm041EUDkeqqoNSESPvxkV06nvyOqe2D305FDjRjvs2fV3 S4JySN0Y0nBAXfpL81QBBjhnYHmOXh1Ae6asrsv+/bqbYXekG8pwOH0hvS4iZMG3avWx EtjVDSz6JxDyZw5UCnINJGxrnezEJu7eJM8D8sHix+T7lSRkbtusY37YKZAZHiJ8zWMC t0dPT+dNWfRE3VqYG7wvzVsr770KGskBBNAMfNJXoi8xfHhZDmwe+nlv82hn3MWyif5J 9b4Ct5nKF9tmu50pZlOzP6dMk8TnveFQWfFDFKvd+y5hD9oML2Sle9r+zyyRJwlHlf6z ojOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PFji7v9BuN0cVIbKYEf3Z9rG2l3tsEYJvJIGPaQO90U=; b=QHadBcY8QpQ+G04QJqiFTAYTEwczAbXBXSSXhnE1Uqgz4mHDiiXLfjrTdbp53hbEI7 fzkmrxXNcMSHPPewyGQ+U78zcP9oGsSEDAXDjkEvca460L7xEcpGoXHBSFiFezUsyMvk FcsfzrbrujwTviqbX8X5PI8vS7SL11pzIe37rvEaJD0mDQar3wl2jg56fcBsKwwMvbdJ k2M2jb+Njalr+YCCtfQmzAXmd+zkICxVk5ciuMXP2axBNUBSLaUuXPvdQ0+TJ0Hdx6uS yYAk6HR3zV5UrgiqioCCAquaebsdbVwtJlm2yzhR4KrMSPG8AK/B9qvwSqRVee+JN+PL fNRg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3qeR6pe2XkgRc2yjSDlxnjoGdnuUrrX49TGGmfp4qf5VQwi1wX NuDoiZWiEAyhI7otGZNZwz/4dVlF X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJltLCmoTmGvsDFkx6TuKUyyPtG/v8CbfiEEs3MKsdd9CEyxNASE6o49aNmEY7u8JVbPPhMxg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cc10:: with SMTP id h16-v6mr3367002wmb.155.1528898935582; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim (vav06-1-78-207-202-134.fbx.proxad.net. [78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q17-v6sm4150407wrr.7.2018.06.13.07.08.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Jun 2018 07:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 20:24:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: Colin Baxter , Eli Zaretskii , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> As to whether Gnus should also use that option -- I think it should, >> because the code in mail-source.el which invokes movemail is an almost >> exact copy of its sibling in rmail.el. It's quite possible that Gnus >> simply uses some old version of what's in Rmail. (In particular, >> rmail.el already does what I suggested to do in order to invoke >> movemail from mailutils in preference to the version which comes with >> Emacs.) >> >> So I'm CC'ing Lars in the hope that he will decide what to do with >> these two issues. > > I don't think that mail-source needs that --emacs switch -- it never > has, I think? But from what you say, it probably doesn't hurt... mail-source will only ever have used Mailutils movemail for those people who had it installed *and* were aware that mail-source-movemail-program needed specifying, so I suspect the sample we=CA=BCre talking about is small. Eli, were you thinking that mail-source should duplicate the movemail detection logic in rmail? Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail and pass '--emacs'? Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 13 12:42:28 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2018 16:42:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46820 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fT8qq-0005Uv-9M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:42:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fT8qo-0005Uh-1U for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:42:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT8qe-0003gP-4A for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:42:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56673) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fT8qd-0003g0-Vo; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:42:16 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1642 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fT8qd-0006y5-GA; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:42:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:42:11 +0300 Message-Id: <83d0wu4p0c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Colin Baxter , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200 > > Eli, were you thinking that mail-source should duplicate the movemail > detection logic in rmail? Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail > and pass '--emacs'? The former. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 14 08:14:37 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2018 12:14:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47391 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTR9B-0008By-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:14:37 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f194.google.com ([209.85.128.194]:38619) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTR9A-0008Bm-6L for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:14:36 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f194.google.com with SMTP id e18-v6so6200231wrs.5 for <31737@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:message-id:mime-version; bh=DE+dLZPW6j9CAuospRx8xmEviEpMgUF0OYu1/nR+k4A=; b=EvIliBt3QgjxB+w7QwNBve5rOoa/DWxCEqc/o5gJ9JvYkQSvIWMokD1csFdQS9XGHp 7RFtfEglfPYuN1hYn+u+pRc/D30KGA0PE6xaC7yKjv0fw7bfda41yfzyePhmnGDOwNpy SYgn9ui3oHYqs2LykVMtJd3qQYcGWytc+n3dg3QiQItziDMKL/ftnEp0m/NBLT9lvFoJ yLyxa/5fDSHSeSNQC91CNEXSvdQVVlva50+MUS/SAlznPEvNKvrRv7fiYUD02/ETmGQz AxnJOjsGXRll+gcgml0eF4iaGGGcZEYH8jSWoC0+7dwey4b8HiGykmVevFG50TwWqhSP bYdA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=DE+dLZPW6j9CAuospRx8xmEviEpMgUF0OYu1/nR+k4A=; b=PcRw+I6C6ru3FAO8qOHp0OkpCPsAteM2GLVchoDNZQuHxb0TOw08Tfqh67OL+VF2ug zYeCOJ4KEoaZn/mFuUSaNlRP0rBYhgPTaMR22s+b95wo5cRNC7QIZZhsaCypXaaGA7S9 4YNZ/26JiPZcofmvI53EH388tWTo8fs5p+gddHFRHuFKCFm+tfcofYLUgxpjm0Z87jht 6/J6KVmYWnRCuUehGcrHGGvA2YEfjWAulptrpS86hq7IRemzFuB2Cfqs+s2/zd0uDcXl 0H1I1VNY407LVdykfge7Gh3LoZoSOa3c95olk8TKG9DC2/il5Zv5oGAE8hlcZW3FDUD/ CcdA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1Sx2Q9J5X/76hGgIgS/mWOtcqyZigr56/FcD5VI8ze9JDtkOBS RX/bKIRwxRRNGjnFhwhtqgpSyFQ/OkA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKImnjHKLA7qjc62zTzTRxOq1vjO5m3colCiIs8I/0oQ9+CpYSkm9VmG7Jej1foakkU1iNY4eA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:99a7:: with SMTP id y36-v6mr2047147wrb.64.1528978470026; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w102-v6sm5129748wrc.23.2018.06.14.05.14.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> <83d0wu4p0c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:14:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Colin Baxter , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200 >> >> Eli, were you thinking that mail-source should duplicate the movemail >> detection logic in rmail? Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail >> and pass '--emacs'? > > The former. Something like this? Testing definitely required by someone who uses mailutils movemail for Gnus. Not sure this is emacs-26 material anymore. diff --git i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el index d2850f4cee..99dc40c843 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ mail-source-idle-time-delay :group 'mail-source :type 'number) -(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program nil +(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program "movemail" "If non-nil, name of program for fetching new mail." :version "22.1" :group 'mail-source @@ -653,6 +653,12 @@ mail-source-delete-crash-box mail-source-delete-incoming mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm))))))) +(defun mail-source-movemail-variant-p (variants) + "Return t if the current movemail variant is any of VARIANTS. +See `rmail-movemail-variant-p' for details" + (let ((rmail-movemail-program mail-source-movemail-program)) + (rmail-movemail-variant-p variant))) + (defun mail-source-movemail (from to) "Move FROM to TO using movemail." (if (not (file-writable-p to)) @@ -682,13 +688,20 @@ mail-source-movemail (setq errors (generate-new-buffer " *mail source loss*")) (let ((default-directory "/")) (setq result + ;; call-proces looks in exec-path, which + ;; contains exec-directory, so will find + ;; Mailutils movemail if it exists, else it will + ;; find "our" movemail in exec-directory. + ;; Bug#31737 (apply 'call-process (append (list - (or mail-source-movemail-program - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) - nil errors nil from to))))) + mail-source-movemail-program + nil errors nil) + (when (mail-source-movemail-variant-p 'mailutils) + (list "--emacs")) + (list from to))))) (when (file-exists-p to) (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) (if (and (or (not (buffer-modified-p errors)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 14 09:04:33 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2018 13:04:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTRvT-0000s2-ON for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:04:32 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f65.google.com ([74.125.82.65]:36097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTRvQ-0000rn-AJ for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:04:30 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f65.google.com with SMTP id v131-v6so11870794wma.1 for <31737@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=KHro4KhhRArhbPdPzrgx9/prEmkmlztcJT5cEVO97fM=; b=PYCbcNjWTFFQKbjfWjG4nBMjM0HF1LPE2vGtKGGbxmPMArmTUWXPhEfN2NStMkFMtV sa6tIBO8RFhhh1R9fg414+CXiONO1iKo4v4SqLFXyu1gUyd4NG8bHmypuPreo4alUeCA S9OkpEjkwKrdKf5xi8bWJGGpwi1wvQZdm228gy5Gd/ngBrLQQ7pKKlHrJSAsS0I6ZCqk JVzw+54U8HIger2zRSIXKqb7Qz+kHY+WoAZUTqHpbRu0u+AtqzW65Fx6v2Dm2Jpbc3yB wwTEVUCywsthT8wHQulyUgOtl/XaseIwsWL7x2WvyXp/MEHSOntAXuvfErgV9WLyR8Fu Dniw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=KHro4KhhRArhbPdPzrgx9/prEmkmlztcJT5cEVO97fM=; b=pShHyv5UTb3Q5gfwmUAkmr+M/4Gbofalbi7jjaeHykTpMEfYfeYGw4VRSNBdnbfr1W NR+hW9SxVATr3Rg1D0haSO1RdkndPQu5uKFtA+CfUrwDyf1g9r93Y+rOjUtBC6pf5Ked +iinzDQgO1GWI0aBehRFE+PIDmDeIYdMspDPzT4sB/aq8DO8bGhlGGlkXA4tWqEqHh2V JDmDexH5klqLBPMa3F2il4auDUo/Gk3M2+Dg7OQDOs06BDKQ/gQ4AnxAaMmvzwal24yo RqiOlhnA6NtvxV11CzptLHKjYObB4Y8fjf0FpcDo7Jt9QKuVvuIxer8TfC+NsMrV+hO9 qLvA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3kSfd232H00USYEvNBG9LM66m5KdJrH3H+A/qEI4OL4KRgBZ45 R9axYF/zafcG9IEIIHxgsUUHoHiCVww= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKJKm7FLLZCAV8mVU9WarZiZbZqr6unu6/U/xeoTVlYuDgszpjqsDI+wopCYM4ChMO5zmSv2Q== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c058:: with SMTP id u24-v6mr1860843wmc.136.1528981462169; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p38-v6sm12580581wrc.11.2018.06.14.06.04.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:04:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> <83d0wu4p0c.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:04:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:14:28 +0200") Message-ID: <87muvxa59n.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Robert Pluim >>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Colin Baxter , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200 >>> >>> Eli, were you thinking that mail-source should duplicate the movemail >>> detection logic in rmail? Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail >>> and pass '--emacs'? >> >> The former. > > Something like this? Testing definitely required by someone who uses > mailutils movemail for Gnus. Not sure this is emacs-26 material > anymore. *sigh*. With the typo fixed now. diff --git i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el index d2850f4cee..37bcb716f9 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ mail-source-idle-time-delay :group 'mail-source :type 'number) -(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program nil +(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program "movemail" "If non-nil, name of program for fetching new mail." :version "22.1" :group 'mail-source @@ -653,6 +653,12 @@ mail-source-delete-crash-box mail-source-delete-incoming mail-source-delete-old-incoming-confirm))))))) +(defun mail-source-movemail-variant-p (variant) + "Return t if the current movemail variant is VARIANT. +See `rmail-movemail-variant-p' for details" + (let ((rmail-movemail-program mail-source-movemail-program)) + (rmail-movemail-variant-p variant))) + (defun mail-source-movemail (from to) "Move FROM to TO using movemail." (if (not (file-writable-p to)) @@ -682,13 +688,20 @@ mail-source-movemail (setq errors (generate-new-buffer " *mail source loss*")) (let ((default-directory "/")) (setq result + ;; call-proces looks in exec-path, which + ;; contains exec-directory, so will find + ;; Mailutils movemail if it exists, else it will + ;; find "our" movemail in exec-directory. + ;; Bug#31737 (apply 'call-process (append (list - (or mail-source-movemail-program - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) - nil errors nil from to))))) + mail-source-movemail-program + nil errors nil) + (when (mail-source-movemail-variant-p 'mailutils) + (list "--emacs")) + (list from to))))) (when (file-exists-p to) (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) (if (and (or (not (buffer-modified-p errors)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 14 09:46:17 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2018 13:46:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTSZp-0001pD-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:46:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTSZk-0001oq-7W for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:46:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTSZa-0003Sp-0p for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:46:02 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTSZZ-0003Sl-TR; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:45:57 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3463 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fTSZZ-0007NW-Bv; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:45:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:45:44 +0300 Message-Id: <83k1r132if.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:14:28 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> <83d0wu4p0c.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:14:28 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Robert Pluim > >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Colin Baxter , 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:08:53 +0200 > >> > >> Eli, were you thinking that mail-source should duplicate the movemail > >> detection logic in rmail? Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail > >> and pass '--emacs'? > > > > The former. > > Something like this? Testing definitely required by someone who uses > mailutils movemail for Gnus. Not sure this is emacs-26 material > anymore. We could install on emacs-26 something much simpler: just call "movemail", without assuming it's in exec-directory, if mail-source-movemail-program is nil, and don't use the "--emacs" option. Thanks. 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Or should it just assume Mailutils movemail >> >> and pass '--emacs'? >> > >> > The former. >>=20 >> Something like this? Testing definitely required by someone who uses >> mailutils movemail for Gnus. Not sure this is emacs-26 material >> anymore. > > We could install on emacs-26 something much simpler: just call > "movemail", without assuming it's in exec-directory, if > mail-source-movemail-program is nil, and don't use the "--emacs" > option. Even simpler (I=CA=BCm tempted to put ""Don't merge to master." in the Chan= geLog). 2018-06-14 Robert Pluim * lisp/gnus/mail-source.el (mail-source-movemail-program): Change default to "movemail". (mail-source-movemail): Pass just mail-source-movemail-program to call-process instead of fully specifying it relative to exec-directory. Ensures that we will find Mailutils movemail if it is installed. (Bug#31737) diff --git i/etc/NEWS w/etc/NEWS index 938644215f..0f67ca572a 100644 --- i/etc/NEWS +++ w/etc/NEWS @@ -46,6 +46,14 @@ often cause crashes. Set it to nil if you really need t= hose fonts. * Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 26.2 =20 +** Gnus + +--- +*** Mailutils movemail will now be used if found at runtime. +The default value of mail-source-movemail-program is now "movemail". +This ensures that the movemail program from GNU Mailutils will be used +if found in 'exec-path', even if it was not found at build time. + ** Shell mode =20 --- diff --git i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el index d2850f4cee..22d3eb374f 100644 --- i/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el +++ w/lisp/gnus/mail-source.el @@ -301,9 +301,9 @@ mail-source-idle-time-delay :group 'mail-source :type 'number) =20 -(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program nil +(defcustom mail-source-movemail-program "movemail" "If non-nil, name of program for fetching new mail." - :version "22.1" + :version "26.2" :group 'mail-source :type '(choice (const nil) string)) =20 @@ -682,12 +682,16 @@ mail-source-movemail (setq errors (generate-new-buffer " *mail source loss*")) (let ((default-directory "/")) (setq result + ;; call-proces looks in exec-path, which + ;; contains exec-directory, so will find + ;; Mailutils movemail if it exists, else it will + ;; find "our" movemail in exec-directory. + ;; Bug#31737 (apply 'call-process (append (list - (or mail-source-movemail-program - (expand-file-name "movemail" exec-directory)) + mail-source-movemail-program nil errors nil from to))))) (when (file-exists-p to) (set-file-modes to mail-source-default-file-modes)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 14 11:08:29 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2018 15:08:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTTrO-0003sz-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:08:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTTrJ-0003si-Le for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:08:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTTr8-0004gC-UQ for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:08:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTTr8-0004g0-QY; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:08:10 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4058 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fTTr8-0004di-9s; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:08:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:07:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83h8m52ype.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87in6la0xk.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:37:59 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <87sh5zk9br.fsf@gmail.com> <8736xzvgrg.fsf@yandex.com> <87o9gnk7vb.fsf@gmail.com> <831sdhuwc1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvqdjmid.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh5xtaa5.fsf@gnu.org> <87602tjesm.fsf@gmail.com> <83muw5t78t.fsf@gnu.org> <871sddk9su.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgblqrir.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh5thu73.fsf@gmail.com> <83r2lcpwk3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9gg7cue.fsf@yandex.com> <83lgbkoynn.fsf@gnu.org> <87efha93t6.fsf@gmail.com> <83d0wu4p0c.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2l9a7kr.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1r132if.fsf@gnu.org> <87in6la0xk.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:37:59 +0200 > > > We could install on emacs-26 something much simpler: just call > > "movemail", without assuming it's in exec-directory, if > > mail-source-movemail-program is nil, and don't use the "--emacs" > > option. > > Even simpler LGTM, thanks. > (Iʼm tempted to put ""Don't merge to master." in the ChangeLog). Yes, please. > +** Gnus > + > +--- > +*** Mailutils movemail will now be used if found at runtime. > +The default value of mail-source-movemail-program is now "movemail". > +This ensures that the movemail program from GNU Mailutils will be used > +if found in 'exec-path', even if it was not found at build time. I'd add a sentence here saying that if the first "movemail" on PATH is not what the user wants, she should customize mail-source-movemail-program to point to the absolute file name of the program she does want. 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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, m43cap@yandex.com, Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) I just proposed a simple patch for the movemail $PATH problem here: https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2018-06/msg00441.html But now I see that Robert proposed a slightly-more-complicated patch here: https://debbugs.gnu.org/31737#63 I think either will work, and that one of the two should be applied to the emacs-26 and master branches. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 15 03:09:14 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2018 07:09:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTir9-0000fR-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:09:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTir4-0000ew-8M for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:09:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTiqv-0007tC-9w for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:09:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTiqQ-0007c0-H8; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:08:26 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4951 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fTiqP-0005jN-W8; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 03:08:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:08:14 +0300 Message-Id: <8336xo34td.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Paul Eggert In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:54:52 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, m43cap@yandex.com, 31737@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Robert Pluim , > m43cap@yandex.com, larsi@gnus.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:54:52 -0700 > > I just proposed a simple patch for the movemail $PATH problem here: > > https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2018-06/msg00441.html > > But now I see that Robert proposed a slightly-more-complicated patch here: > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/31737#63 > > I think either will work, and that one of the two should be applied to > the emacs-26 and master branches. They are both okay, but the patch proposed by Robert was there first, and includes a NEWS entry. So I think that one should go in. Thanks. 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Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8336xo34td.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737-done Cc: larsi@gnus.org, m43cap@yandex.com, 31737-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > the patch proposed by Robert was there first, > and includes a NEWS entry. So I think that one should go in. OK, I installed that in the emacs-26 branch and am marking this bug as done. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 15 06:21:13 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2018 10:21:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTlqz-00071d-8I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:21:13 -0400 Received: from forward101j.mail.yandex.net ([5.45.198.241]:37741) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTlqx-00071Q-6E for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:21:11 -0400 Received: from mxback8g.mail.yandex.net (mxback8g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:169]) by forward101j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6D3841247539; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:21:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (smtp3p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:8]) by mxback8g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id H5vgA4fEVm-L4R4jtxc; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:21:04 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1529058064; bh=edUsUd47YZiwYayMFGEwmqurVTuUSlpcYZHGGvEPA5s=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=LD8+HC3cqPsIVxW/XInMSu0P42rwKdh2VjRdbGMAq55H4kK5XPAJoLRY/Vs6oJG2q q9vbFiK7mYVy/846MQ+bKfRqcoy67Igu8W5RD7p7BNm1jiF1Vi6dFdw0oRMXjfZcub 3EW0UkcJyvPR83SjTp3l4NYdqHpkG8vCYIHJxUSw= Received: by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id nHJfCaK8Jn-L2Zaww4t; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:21:02 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1529058063; bh=edUsUd47YZiwYayMFGEwmqurVTuUSlpcYZHGGvEPA5s=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=c1Yxbi507/YAZGgQkCY4E6oVqHA4MqLOXGbtCfxCNrI/2e92kKair3HEWutxQHiOA H1f9iulSKdsJgxlatsCpLj8vj0Uh8VTett6J33ieTicEy7i9OJGsLd7cFXC5Jka2gU y7wHxlkXqPWm1ZOX3IP5IGKeql5sG74cyDKyjFpo= Authentication-Results: smtp3p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: 31737@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <8336xo34td.fsf@gnu.org> X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:21:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2018 00:42:47 -0700") Message-ID: <87zhzw1hbm.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACwAAAAMCAIAAACWSshgAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA h0lEQVQ4jc3SMQoCQRBE0V9jK5h6DkPP4KkMPZ7hnsNccKdNzK0KhO348RmG0pEr9p153nj8ZHcu Cyc/O3z6v6tml/ix91iUrYl83cj5ukZRtgKLG5Ytv48YvBO/vjwWZbcxzBkO8+CxKFsdDtPRjaJs ifY19OqxKFsDLwuAmM7exIyymxjmB6b3H3cyUsQPAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: , rpluim@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Eggert writes: Paul> Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> the patch proposed by Robert was there first, and includes a NEWS >> entry. So I think that one should go in. Paul> OK, I installed that in the emacs-26 branch and am marking Paul> this bug as done. I've tested this with my setup on a newly pulled emacs-26 branch. It seems ok; with no difference seen from my previous arrangement, where I had explicitly (setq mail-source-movemail-program "/usr/bin/movemail"). Thank you. Best wishes, -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 15 07:19:49 2018 Received: (at 31737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2018 11:19:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48987 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTmlh-0008Se-NI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:19:49 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f177.google.com ([209.85.128.177]:40874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTmlg-0008SR-98 for 31737@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:19:48 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f177.google.com with SMTP id l41-v6so9555328wre.7 for <31737@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 04:19:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3t4k0JTyoAc5r1KmXFO1dwEcbDWvVSf5rZs+CpBG4cU=; b=LyhnGxvhzGBAp9hyd2iQHwWF9Ihu2Kc8nwhXOtp5FoTxR4U6AmE4yaTrS6VEwd0OiL y2Ip0tvsNsOkpUHYCVjR98TvvQ+/pfYDKV2T8J5j7oYcdGc0Qs2FV2Uz/G4IQUDB/vkf iu8S9vBeuzfJw/3+/hrcULVEeZzfT44DleKdFEmDvhO8TqB/H4ZLmOaANb3myXXTPuO8 l9d1/sjrvCShH5mG4FAquExDF7r8Hk2bjlILeGsaW9S4nGIm0Hsr9MFRjHJozJFMHmTj mru6ArYHGRxPN1H4K+jNbbORLwYT1SVcz0AMRhc7HqgC89SMjH0zJ5ClWmTAxyasjfO6 mb2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3t4k0JTyoAc5r1KmXFO1dwEcbDWvVSf5rZs+CpBG4cU=; b=ht6KLMODZKrbDV1rR2yZia6mbTdjJ4ed9DJvvaRW6WDnRIRnX5vCIe2wU5dH1p4vI2 1/shis1Un7P00nmig8LZfli1S3Hs1rW/mIg9vpymvEItffq9wykDcw7ajUQflX68XT4a PVO63TXLiaAh6prnqahYqI++hKSVTZcbsbfuelxMIVjQYDplPvcQUrSaxK32fVlWxzCR Z3b5DtN0nYmBMJKc+C3byKAcgw1LJS1RhV/ub7sVKXX85gwcok8LxBCXA9VtaXi8pRUV hnA7jvWMytQt1knCF4jrF3ydR01IK1ucEwex5HDjHJxLL5/i8Cy0329j+tDZiuTUrXTn hm/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0X74jZ5i3hENfr+q0NIZEtGvYNziSpdhdDdS1eDolbG9RE+Sko MMbjDR8djsiBWAebRVrkzFI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKITOGrQWexBjb1m9CrXVt+7F9yk6XNptcW/cMnmscmQMhGdoAez8oduk4DAWUr13Ix9yAdhkQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:81a6:: with SMTP id 35-v6mr1339612wra.60.1529061582546; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 04:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b8-v6sm8163830wrp.50.2018.06.15.04.19.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 15 Jun 2018 04:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Colin Baxter Subject: Re: bug#31737: 26.1.50; Gnus does not use mailutils movemail References: <8336xo34td.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhzw1hbm.fsf@yandex.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:19:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zhzw1hbm.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:21:01 +0100") Message-ID: <871sd89u0j.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31737 Cc: 31737@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>> "Paul" =3D=3D Paul Eggert writes: > > Paul> Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> the patch proposed by Robert was there first, and includes a NEWS > >> entry. So I think that one should go in. > > Paul> OK, I installed that in the emacs-26 branch and am marking > Paul> this bug as done. > > I've tested this with my setup on a newly pulled emacs-26 branch. It > seems ok; with no difference seen from my previous arrangement, where I > had explicitly (setq mail-source-movemail-program "/usr/bin/movemail"). Thanks for testing. I=CA=BCm glad we don=CA=BCt appear to have broken anyth= ing. Robert From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:43:42 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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