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[84.114.215.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o53-v6sm47806775wrc.96.2018.05.28.08.20.36 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 May 2018 08:20:36 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Christian Schwarzgruber To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; isearch prompt not shown when `inhibit-message` is set to `t` Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 17:20:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hello Everybody! (setq inhibit-message t) hides isearch prompt. Is this defined behavior or a bug? Thank you! regards, Christian Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr --with-modules --without-pop --without-mailutils --with-xwidgets' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES THREADS XWIDGETS LIBSYSTEMD LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r10-v6sm19621569wrn.6.2018.05.28.09.01.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 May 2018 09:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Christian Schwarzgruber Subject: Re: bug#31627: 27.0.50; isearch prompt not shown when `inhibit-message` is set to `t` References: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 18:01:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> (Christian Schwarzgruber's message of "Mon, 28 May 2018 17:20:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87tvqrhiqr.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31627 Cc: 31627@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Christian Schwarzgruber writes: > Hello Everybody! > > (setq inhibit-message t) hides isearch prompt. Is this defined behavior > or a bug? Good question. 26.1 and 25.3 behave the same way, but it=CA=BCs certainly unexpected behaviour to me (and not described in the docstring for isearch-forward). 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[101.128.225.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u10-v6sm40104015pgp.32.2018.05.28.22.17.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 May 2018 22:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha To: Christian Schwarzgruber Subject: Re: bug#31627: 27.0.50; isearch prompt not shown when `inhibit-message` is set to `t` References: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 14:17:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> (Christian Schwarzgruber's message of "Mon, 28 May 2018 17:20:35 +0200") Message-ID: <874lirxcq4.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31627 Cc: 31627@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Christian Schwarzgruber writes: > Hello Everybody! > > (setq inhibit-message t) hides isearch prompt. Is this defined behavior > or a bug? Its use is not intended to be set globally by users, because you don't want to suppress all the calls to `message'; `message' is a common way for Emacs to talk with its users, ask them for input or whatever. Maybe something could be added in its docstring to make the point clear. This var is mainly used by package developers in a controlled way: typically by locally let-binding it around an expression. For example, imagine the package `foo' having an user option `foo-verbose' to display/suppress not very important messages: (defcustom foo-verbose t "If nil, suppress some messages" :type 'boolean :group 'foo) (defun foo-set-vars () (message "Setting package variables!") (setq foo-mint 100) (setq foo-star -1)) (defun foo-start () (foo-procastinate-response) (message "Initialisation complete!")) (defun foo-initialize () (let ((inhibit-message (not verbose))) (foo-set-vars) (foo-start))) That would be OK. Another typical use is to suppress garbage messages when writing tests. 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[84.114.215.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a8-v6sm21044847wrc.18.2018.05.28.22.37.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 May 2018 22:37:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> <874lirxcq4.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Christian Schwarzgruber To: Tino Calancha Subject: Re: bug#31627: 27.0.50; isearch prompt not shown when `inhibit-message` is set to `t` In-reply-to: <874lirxcq4.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 07:37:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87efhvowda.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31627 Cc: 31627@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Thank you for clarification! With that "docstring" things are now clear to me. -Christian Tino Calancha writes: > Christian Schwarzgruber writes: > >> Hello Everybody! >> >> (setq inhibit-message t) hides isearch prompt. Is this defined behavior >> or a bug? > Its use is not intended to be set globally by users, because you don't > want to suppress all the calls to `message'; `message' is a common way > for Emacs to talk with its users, ask them for input or whatever. > Maybe something could be added in its docstring to make the point clear. > > This var is mainly used by package developers in a controlled way: > typically by locally let-binding it around an expression. For example, > imagine the package `foo' having an user option > `foo-verbose' to display/suppress not very important messages: > > (defcustom foo-verbose t > "If nil, suppress some messages" > :type 'boolean > :group 'foo) > > (defun foo-set-vars () > (message "Setting package variables!") > (setq foo-mint 100) > (setq foo-star -1)) > > (defun foo-start () > (foo-procastinate-response) > (message "Initialisation complete!")) > > (defun foo-initialize () > (let ((inhibit-message (not verbose))) > (foo-set-vars) > (foo-start))) > > That would be OK. > Another typical use is to suppress garbage messages > when writing tests. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 02 07:10:24 2018 Received: (at 31627-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2018 11:10:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58423 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP4QR-0007vn-Ug for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:10:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP4QP-0007va-Oe for 31627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:10:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP4QF-0004HX-Of for 31627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:10:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP4QF-0004Gp-Kx; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:10:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2145 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fP4QD-0005Gq-Ja; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:10:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 14:10:12 +0300 Message-Id: <83in71e963.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Christian Schwarzgruber In-reply-to: <87efhvowda.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Christian Schwarzgruber on Tue, 29 May 2018 07:37:37 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#31627: 27.0.50; isearch prompt not shown when `inhibit-message` is set to `t` References: <87y3g3lscc.fsf@gmail.com> <874lirxcq4.fsf@gmail.com> <87efhvowda.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31627-done Cc: 31627-done@debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Christian Schwarzgruber > Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 07:37:37 +0200 > Cc: 31627@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thank you for clarification! > > With that "docstring" things are now clear to me. I added the warning to the doc string, and I'm therefore closing the bug. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:04:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2018 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator