From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:12:45 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#31585 <31585@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#31585 <31585@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Reply-To: bug#31585 <31585@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:12:45 +0000 retitle 31585 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set reassign 31585 emacs submitter 31585 markusffm@fn.de severity 31585 normal tag 31585 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 24 17:48:16 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2018 21:48:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46979 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy5o-0004hB-D0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:48:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3v-0004eG-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3p-0008Ew-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3o-0008Eb-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3m-00026g-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3j-0008Br-QR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:10 -0400 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:2]:54688) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLy3j-0008B7-Gs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:46:07 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID markusffm@fn.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1fLy3g-0001XM-8H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 23:46:04 +0200 Received: from [::1] (port=59180 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID markusffm@fn.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1fLy3g-0001M9-4E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 23:46:04 +0200 Received: from mx10.freenet.de ([195.4.92.20]:57750) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID markusffm@fn.de) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1fLy1h-0008Fb-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 23:44:01 +0200 Received: from p5495b923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.149.185.35]:52718 helo=localhost.localdomain) by mx10.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID markusffm@fn.de) (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.90_1 #2) id 1fLy1g-00053r-So for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 23:44:00 +0200 From: markusffm@fn.de To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 23:44:00 +0200 Message-ID: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamreport: Action: no action Symbol: TO_DN_NONE(0.00) Symbol: RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00) Symbol: MIME_GOOD(-0.10) Symbol: TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00) Symbol: NEURAL_HAM(-2.98) Symbol: ASN(0.00) Symbol: FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00) Symbol: RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00) Symbol: FROM_NO_DN(0.00) Symbol: MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00) Message-ID: 603craov.fsf@fn.de X-FN-Spambar: X-Originated-At: 84.149.185.35!52718 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h133-v6sm720504ioa.26.2018.05.24.14.57.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 24 May 2018 14:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: markusffm@fn.de Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set References: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 17:57:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> (markusffm's message of "Thu, 24 May 2018 23:44:00 +0200") Message-ID: <8736yghg3g.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31585 Cc: 31585@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 31585 + moreinfo quit markusffm@fn.de writes: > build with: CFLAGS="-march=native -ffast-math -Os" I don't see -ffast-math very often, does it affect anything? > and > --enable-largefile \ > --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 \ > --with-sound=no \ > --with-modules \ > --with-xwidgets \ > --without-pop \ > --without-selinux \ > --without-gnutls \ > --disable-acl \ > --with-file-notification=yes \ > --with-json \ > --without-xml2 \ > resulting in: > 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set usage > measured by htop What do you do in Emacs for this to happen? Just on startup (with -Q?), open N files, ...? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 25 02:29:28 2018 Received: (at 31585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 May 2018 06:29:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM6EC-0005fK-FE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:29:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM6E9-0005f6-TU for 31585@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:29:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM6E1-0008U2-CK for 31585@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:29:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52351) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM6E1-0008Tu-9F; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:29:17 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1302 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fM6E0-00074V-NS; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:29:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 09:29:29 +0300 Message-Id: <83o9h49rjq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <8736yghg3g.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Thu, 24 May 2018 17:57:23 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set References: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> <8736yghg3g.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31585 Cc: markusffm@fn.de, 31585@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 17:57:23 -0400 > Cc: 31585@debbugs.gnu.org > > > build with: CFLAGS="-march=native -ffast-math -Os" > > I don't see -ffast-math very often, does it affect anything? It does. It breaks IEEE compatibility and enables "unsafe" optimizations of FP calculations. I cannot recommend its usage in general-purpose programs such as Emacs. Not sure it has any relevance to the issue at hand, but I would recommend to begin by building without that flag. > What do you do in Emacs for this to happen? Just on startup (with -Q?), > open N files, ...? Indeed, some information about the recipe to reproduce the problem is required to investigate this problem. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s185-v6sm3543177iod.25.2018.05.25.17.57.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 25 May 2018 17:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: 31585@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 20:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: <87a7snfd39.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31585 Cc: markusffm@fn.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain [forwarding to list, please use "Reply All" to keep 31585@debbugs.gnu.org on Cc] --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 00:14:45 +0200 From: markusffm@fn.de To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Message-ID: <20180524221445.GA24234@INDRA> References: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> <8736yghg3g.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8736yghg3g.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 05:57:23PM -0400, Noam Postavsky wrote: >tags 31585 + moreinfo >quit > >markusffm@fn.de writes: > >> build with: CFLAGS="-march=native -ffast-math -Os" > >I don't see -ffast-math very often, does it affect anything? NO! >What do you do in Emacs for this to happen? Just on startup (with -Q?), >open N files, ...? No effect. -- lg M --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain I meant, how did you start Emacs, and what actions did you take in Emacs before observing the 112GB virtual memory usage? --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 27 09:18:02 2018 Received: (at 31585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2018 13:18:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMvYg-0003iF-9b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 09:18:02 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180]:33792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMvYe-0003hl-DZ for 31585@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 09:18:00 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id e15-v6so2943438iog.1 for <31585@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 27 May 2018 06:18:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=ZsY21xDvrtTq4WT+wp87B8xqvlY1myVDKT4WybNz8z8=; b=Qi+FhkjyWaKf7u5yX3qyglLzqFZN6wNE7QJZ6A0cMMPiiXkZnugfJmXT84ECktwWoG TwtYsM3dDuLoycWhVLUo15Gd5z42Bo0Xp7hHej2qVDqIxYuy4b/4vpx1s1jSi9VEQHNA xnooYlMUIjCCTK4RX04QcdvIacrwptxHOngMOadILuGD9kC/lzetJGGaiOeAuAGn+fa4 a1x/4AT6lYFNzDPD8VjyZATHGB0slDFGqapbby/2KFlf1pESdS9qmfX+S7nvqQ9H/bs4 el1/t3xxLe+OgW62zcHJiabU1p9fm9QBlnVRfwG7gdnDjuCwgjSVVOdAsFSIrQtU49AF YG0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=ZsY21xDvrtTq4WT+wp87B8xqvlY1myVDKT4WybNz8z8=; b=qA79HMpO/4dxQC3v61NfsiVjMwGf1TPPIbf2zu4TGnIFHJKWwIBW4Q5yCC2iRe1LKz +BtW10OKNnH07vla8I2NH6UbQD5Rl+F2JahWhWzra69AFPVOvEiWGzgGcUMJtLagv4CL GODdZsmM+z75ZV8ZmnY4VCYA/xpF0dt71KMcuMgyPIFwJotObIiqCeOKwYfn9MzKMa0X fgnNxX/T7HlJIiM54DQYnf4PY8pLOmPPy9sdLzJwNiwXFMo7wQuMU5kQnID2gq3NtTC7 Rl0y8yXZlLMIQqa4oBsqt4UXgub1Kdb0a+pKuPQDhzJ30IMETvgPCUT3To0wi3KUxC9k f2dA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweoyJoiWgrndYScqFWj45AumtdahQ9YXTrmINs8Q8RABv4rnPRr aSdxNC/5TW64emuaZQHGLUC6qA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqWro/VObTpwFdDqFZLEPw/ubhrlsmQWA6DLSxTuLIBIrKaaiTjnN64EiSccnyZf1kJAmaJIQ== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:c38b:: with SMTP id t133-v6mr5242916iof.197.1527427074928; Sun, 27 May 2018 06:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zebian (cbl-45-2-119-34.yyz.frontiernetworks.ca. [45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y2-v6sm6057029ita.31.2018.05.27.06.17.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 27 May 2018 06:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: 31585@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 09:17:52 -0400 Message-ID: <87y3g5dypr.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31585 Cc: "markusffm@fn.de" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain [forwarding to list, please use "Reply All" to keep 31585@debbugs.gnu.org on Cc] --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 08:23:21 +0200 From: "markusffm\@fn.de" To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set Message-ID: <20180526062321.GA31924@INDRA> References: <87a7snfd39.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87a7snfd39.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > >I meant, how did you start Emacs, and what actions did you take in Emacs invoked by emacs >before observing the 112GB virtual memory usage? no action. after running emacs for let me say an hour the size of the working set increases to 170mb invoking emacs with -Q doesn't change anything either. -- lg M --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain You mean, immediately after startup the virual memory is 112GB? Or only after an hour (and what do you do during that hour)? --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 27 12:11:49 2018 Received: (at 31585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2018 16:11:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyGq-0003HS-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:11:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54185) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyGp-0003HB-9J for 31585@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:11:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyGi-0008D8-T8 for 31585@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:11:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyGb-0008AA-Vf; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:11:34 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2433 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyGb-0003pv-CE; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:11:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 19:11:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83bmd184er.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <87y3g5dypr.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Sun, 27 May 2018 09:17:52 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set References: <603craov.fsf@fn.de> <87y3g5dypr.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31585 Cc: markusffm@fn.de, 31585@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 09:17:52 -0400 > Cc: "markusffm@fn.de" > > From: "markusffm\@fn.de" > To: Noam Postavsky > Subject: Re: bug#31585: 27.0.50; 112GB Virtual Memory; 102MB working set > > > > >I meant, how did you start Emacs, and what actions did you take in Emacs > invoked by emacs > >before observing the 112GB virtual memory usage? > no action. after running emacs for let me say an hour the size of the > working set increases to 170mb > invoking emacs with -Q doesn't change anything either. A working set of 170MB is quite normal. What I don't understand is how come such a moderate working set can cause a 112GB VM usage. Any chance you could run some memory analyzing program and see what part(s) reserve all that huge memory? 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