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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --00000000000015516a056cca48f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi emacs developers. In custom.texi:147..150, >>> start here If you are interested in customizing a particular setting or customization group, you can go straight there with the commands @kbd{M-x customize-option}, @kbd{M-x customize-face}, or @w{@kbd{M-x customize-group}}. @xref{Specific Customization}." <<< end here only '@kbd{M-x customize-group}' are marked-up by @w{...} (Prevent Line Breaks). About this paragraph, only adding @w markup was changed in Emacs manual from emacs-25.2 to emacs-26. Is there any reason? It seems necessary for specific columns count environment for me. Or original language environment, @kbd{M-x customize-group} will be put line-break position, always? (If so when it translated to other languages, translators should decide @w markup target separately?) Thanks. ayatakesi --00000000000015516a056cca48f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi emacs developers.

In custom.texi:147..150,

>>> start here
If you are intere= sted in customizing a particular setting or customization group, you can go= straight there with the commands @kbd{M-x customize-option}, @kbd{M-x cust= omize-face}, or @w{@kbd{M-x customize-group}}.=C2=A0 @xref{Specific Customi= zation}."
<<< end here

=C2=A0only '@kbd= {M-x customize-group}' are marked-up by @w{...} (Prevent Line Br= eaks).

About this paragr= aph, only adding @w markup was changed in Emacs manual from emacs-25.2 to e= macs-26.

Is there any re= ason?

It seems necessary for specific columns = count environment for me.

Or= original language environment,=C2=A0@kbd{M-x customize-group} will be put line-break position, always?<= /div>
(If so when it translated to other languages, transla= tors should decide @w markup target separately?)

Thanks.

--00000000000015516a056cca48f4-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 22 13:08:32 2018 Received: (at 31550-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 17:08:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44388 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAm0-0007il-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:08:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38017) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAly-0007iZ-Ms for 31550-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:08:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAlo-0006fr-Im for 31550-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:08:25 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAlo-0006fl-FI; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:08:20 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4392 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAln-0007Ww-TR; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:08:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:08:26 +0300 Message-Id: <838t8behyt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Takesi Ayanokoji In-reply-to: (message from Takesi Ayanokoji on Tue, 22 May 2018 21:08:40 +0900) Subject: Re: bug#31550: Inconsistent markup usage in custom.texi(emacs-26) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31550-done Cc: 31550-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Takesi Ayanokoji > Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 21:08:40 +0900 > > In custom.texi:147..150, > > >>> start here > If you are interested in customizing a particular setting or customization group, you can go straight there with > the commands @kbd{M-x customize-option}, @kbd{M-x customize-face}, or @w{@kbd{M-x > customize-group}}. @xref{Specific Customization}." > <<< end here > > only '@kbd{M-x customize-group}' are marked-up by @w{...} (Prevent Line Breaks). > > About this paragraph, only adding @w markup was changed in Emacs manual from emacs-25.2 to > emacs-26. > > Is there any reason? The reason is to avoid breaking a long command between two lines. Commands that are not in danger of being split between lines don't need the @w{..} guard. Having @w{} everywhere cannot do any harm, but it makes reading the Texinfo source harder. This is not a bug. Thanks. From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:17:00 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator