From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 00:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15268643358922 (code B ref -1); Mon, 21 May 2018 00:59:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2018 00:58:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZA7-0002Jp-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZA5-0002JZ-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9z-0002xW-LY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9z-0002xS-IA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9y-0000Wd-EQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9v-0002wh-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:46 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:37279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9v-0002wH-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:43 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.244.176 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BB08C0005 for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 02:58:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Van L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 10:58:34 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) Hello. The Preface section of emacs-lisp-intro.pdf is expected to have roman = numeral page numbering but the PDF produced doesn=E2=80=99t. The page = numbering counts from page 1. See the following texi file excerpt, see page 13 of 271 in the PDF = viewer. #+NAME: emacs-lisp-intro.texi #+BEGIN_SRC texi -n 223 @c >>>> Set pageno appropriately <<<< @c The first page of the Preface is a roman numeral; it is the first @c right handed page after the Table of Contents; hence the = following @c setting must be for an odd negative number. @c iftex @c global@pageno =3D -11 @c end iftex #+END_SRC= From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 14:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.15269143824225 (code B ref 31541); Mon, 21 May 2018 14:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2018 14:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43126 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKmBK-000161-6C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 10:53:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34133) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKmBJ-00015c-59 for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 10:53:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKmB9-0001FK-TG for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 10:52:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKmB9-0001FC-QG; Mon, 21 May 2018 10:52:51 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2890 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fKmB8-00076k-TI; Mon, 21 May 2018 10:52:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 17:52:55 +0300 Message-Id: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Mon, 21 May 2018 10:58:34 +1000) References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 10:58:34 +1000 > > The Preface section of emacs-lisp-intro.pdf is expected to have roman numeral page numbering but the PDF produced doesn’t. The page numbering counts from page 1. > > See the following texi file excerpt, see page 13 of 271 in the PDF viewer. > > #+NAME: emacs-lisp-intro.texi > #+BEGIN_SRC texi -n 223 > @c >>>> Set pageno appropriately <<<< > > @c The first page of the Preface is a roman numeral; it is the first > @c right handed page after the Table of Contents; hence the following > @c setting must be for an odd negative number. > > @c iftex > @c global@pageno = -11 > @c end iftex > > #+END_SRC So what is the bug you are complaining about? Is it that the comment doesn't reflect the reality, or is it something else? Thanks. From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 00:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.152694788027390 (code B ref 31541); Tue, 22 May 2018 00:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 00:11:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKutb-00077g-6f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 20:11:20 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:44623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKutY-00077V-Sk for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 20:11:17 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.244.176 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77523C0003; Tue, 22 May 2018 02:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:11:09 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > So what is the bug you are complaining about? Is it that the comment > doesn't reflect the reality, or is it something else? Is it a factual error that fails to reflect the current Emacs? to be = fixed or not. Your call. From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 02:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.15269568578422 (code B ref 31541); Tue, 22 May 2018 02:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 02:40:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxEP-0002Bl-5P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:40:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxEN-0002BZ-Ps for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:40:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxEF-0000yn-KV for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:40:50 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxEF-0000yh-Cl; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:40:47 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3697 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxEE-0001Us-QC; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:40:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 05:40:52 +0300 Message-Id: <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Tue, 22 May 2018 10:11:09 +1000) References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:11:09 +1000 > Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > So what is the bug you are complaining about? Is it that the comment > > doesn't reflect the reality, or is it something else? > > Is it a factual error that fails to reflect the current Emacs? to be fixed or not. Your call. Sorry, I don't understand: what do you mean by "the current Emacs"? We are talking about the manual, right? From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 02:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.15269572238983 (code B ref 31541); Tue, 22 May 2018 02:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 02:47:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxKI-0002Kp-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:47:03 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:49591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxKH-0002KP-25 for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:47:02 -0400 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E67B240004; Tue, 22 May 2018 04:46:57 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 12:46:52 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <88BF3540-04DD-4136-934E-701F87EDE624@scratch.space> References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > Sorry, I don't understand: what do you mean by "the current Emacs"? > We are talking about the manual, right? My understanding of ``the current Emacs=E2=80=99=E2=80=99 is everything = under directory emacs/ from a `git pull=E2=80=99. It could be the tip of = master branch or Emacs 26, I guess. I happen to be at release tag for Emacs 26.1-rc1. Does that make sense? the current is a moving target.= From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 02:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.15269577219655 (code B ref 31541); Tue, 22 May 2018 02:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 02:55:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxSK-0002Vf-Os for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:55:20 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:34399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKxSJ-0002VX-9G for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2018 22:55:19 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.244.176 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5288F1BF20B; Tue, 22 May 2018 04:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 12:55:10 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <466948F9-DAC2-44E8-818D-D72087D179D9@scratch.space> References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > We are talking about the manual, right? We are talking about the file emacs-lisp-intro.texi. Third line has : @setfilename ../../info/eintr.info which was why I used `eintr.info=E2=80=99 in the Subject: line. At issue is the comment which does not match the result produced in the = PDF for page numbering lettering.= From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 16:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Van L Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.152700829528720 (code B ref 31541); Tue, 22 May 2018 16:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 16:58:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAc3-0007TA-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 12:58:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAc1-0007Sx-1s for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 12:58:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAbv-0002cp-2D for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 12:58:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAbu-0002ck-Vw; Tue, 22 May 2018 12:58:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4372 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAbu-0008Og-DV; Tue, 22 May 2018 12:58:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:58:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83bmd7eifu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <88BF3540-04DD-4136-934E-701F87EDE624@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Tue, 22 May 2018 12:46:52 +1000) References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> <88BF3540-04DD-4136-934E-701F87EDE624@scratch.space> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 12:46:52 +1000 > Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Sorry, I don't understand: what do you mean by "the current Emacs"? > > We are talking about the manual, right? > > My understanding of ``the current Emacs’’ is everything under directory emacs/ from a `git pull’. Well, yes, but it's confusing to say "Emacs" when you really mean a very specific part of it. It tends to produce miscommunication. It is much better to be more specific, as in "manual" or "Emacs Lisp Intro". From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Van L Subject: bug#31541: closed (Re: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF) Message-ID: References: <83a7srei5u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 31541 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 17:05:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1527008702-29354-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1527008702-29354-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 31541@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 31541: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D31541 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1527008702-29354-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 31541-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2018 17:04:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAhv-0007cY-3S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:04:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37023) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAht-0007cL-Da for 31541-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:04:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAhj-0004yN-JK for 31541-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:04:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50054) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAhj-0004yJ-G1; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:04:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4390 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fLAhi-0000c2-CD; Tue, 22 May 2018 13:04:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 20:04:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83a7srei5u.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Van L In-reply-to: <466948F9-DAC2-44E8-818D-D72087D179D9@scratch.space> (message from Van L on Tue, 22 May 2018 12:55:10 +1000) Subject: Re: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF References: <83efi5f4c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgcce7kb.fsf@gnu.org> <466948F9-DAC2-44E8-818D-D72087D179D9@scratch.space> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31541-done Cc: 31541-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Van L > Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 12:55:10 +1000 > Cc: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org > > At issue is the comment which does not match the result produced in the PDF for page numbering lettering. OK, I clarified in the comments what is that all about, and I'm closing this bug report. Thanks. ------------=_1527008702-29354-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2018 00:58:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZA7-0002Jp-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZA5-0002JZ-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9z-0002xW-LY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9z-0002xS-IA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9y-0000Wd-EQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9v-0002wh-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:46 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:37279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fKZ9v-0002wH-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:43 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.244.176 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BB08C0005 for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 02:58:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Van L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 10:58:34 +1000 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) Hello. The Preface section of emacs-lisp-intro.pdf is expected to have roman = numeral page numbering but the PDF produced doesn=E2=80=99t. The page = numbering counts from page 1. See the following texi file excerpt, see page 13 of 271 in the PDF = viewer. #+NAME: emacs-lisp-intro.texi #+BEGIN_SRC texi -n 223 @c >>>> Set pageno appropriately <<<< @c The first page of the Preface is a roman numeral; it is the first @c right handed page after the Table of Contents; hence the = following @c setting must be for an odd negative number. @c iftex @c global@pageno =3D -11 @c end iftex #+END_SRC= ------------=_1527008702-29354-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 09 05:00:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31541: closed (Re: bug#31541: eintr.info - roman numeral page numbering for Preface section in PDF) Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 02:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31541 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 31541@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31541-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31541.152704096018698 (code B ref 31541); Wed, 23 May 2018 02:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 31541) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 May 2018 02:02:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLJ6u-0004rV-5o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 22:02:40 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:36057) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fLJ6r-0004rM-AR for 31541@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2018 22:02:37 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 123.243.244.176 Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D1EF1C0002 for <31541@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 23 May 2018 04:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Van L In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:02:29 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <78C2FE99-5339-48D6-A390-68E958D459A4@scratch.space> References: <83a7srei5u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > GNU bug Tracking System: > what is that all about, and I'm > closing this bug report. In case this bug is revisited best practise in contemporary book publishing industry for counting the pages in the Preface should be evaluated to choose the way forward for the numbering (or lettering) in that section.