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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --0000000000007f5d81056c91d551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi emacs developers. In dired.texi:240..253 You can delete empty directories just like other files, but normally Dired cannot delete directories that are nonempty. If the variable @code{dired-recursive-deletes} is non-@code{nil}, then Dired can delete nonempty directories including all their contents. That can be somewhat risky. If the value of the variable is @code{always}, Dired will delete nonempty directories recursively, which is even more risky. Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to @code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories without being asked for confirmation for all of them. This is handy when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very sure that all of them can safely be deleted. For every nonempty directory you are asked for confirmation; if you answer @code{all}, then all the remaining directories will be deleted without more questions. I think the sentence Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to @code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories without being asked for confirmation for all of them. and the sentence This is handy when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very sure that all of them can safely be deleted. is reverse order. How is this? ayatakesi --0000000000007f5d81056c91d551 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
Hi emacs developers.

In dired.texi:240..253

 You can delete empty directories just like other files, but normally
Dired cannot delete directories that are nonempty.  If the variable
@code{dired-recursive-deletes} is non-@code{nil}, then Dired can
delete nonempty directories including all their contents.  That can be
somewhat risky.  If the value of the variable is @code{always}, Dired
will delete nonempty directories recursively, which is even more
risky.  Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to
@code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories
without being asked for confirmation for all of them.  This is handy
when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very
sure that all of them can safely be deleted.  For every nonempty
directory you are asked for confirmation; if you answer @code{all},
then all the remaining directories will be deleted without more
questions.

I think the sentence

Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to
@code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories
without being asked for confirmation for all of them.

and the sentence

This is handy
when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very
sure that all of them can safely be deleted.

is reverse order.

How is this?

ayatakesi <ayanokoji.takesi@gmail.com>
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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z85-v6sm1540551ita.1.2018.06.07.16.25.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Jun 2018 16:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Takesi Ayanokoji Subject: Re: bug#31529: Sentence order in dired.texi(emacs-26) References: Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:25:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Takesi Ayanokoji's message of "Sun, 20 May 2018 01:47:59 +0900") Message-ID: <878t7q2n88.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31529 Cc: 31529@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 19 May 2018 at 12:47, Takesi Ayanokoji wrote: > I think the sentence > > Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to > @code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories > without being asked for confirmation for all of them. > > and the sentence > > This is handy > when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very > sure that all of them can safely be deleted. > > is reverse order. I don't think they're reversed, "this is handy" refers to the previous sentence "delete [...] without being asked [...] for all of them". Maybe it would be clearer if the second sentence said "For example" instead of "This is handy". Also, I'd say the word "recursively" *is* reversed with one of the words around it, it should be either "recursively delete directories" or "delete directories recursively". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 09 05:00:10 2018 Received: (at 31529-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2018 09:00:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40294 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRZjD-0002kb-SP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 05:00:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57084) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fRZjC-0002ij-44 for 31529-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 05:00:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRZj3-0008DB-9R for 31529-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 05:00:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRZj3-0008D1-5t; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 04:59:57 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2660 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fRZj1-0007vs-Uz; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 04:59:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 11:59:58 +0300 Message-Id: <831sdgtjw1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <878t7q2n88.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:25:27 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#31529: Sentence order in dired.texi(emacs-26) References: <878t7q2n88.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 31529-done Cc: 31529-done@debbugs.gnu.org, ayanokoji.takesi@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:25:27 -0400 > Cc: 31529@debbugs.gnu.org > > On 19 May 2018 at 12:47, Takesi Ayanokoji wrote: > > > I think the sentence > > > > Even if you have set @code{dired-recursive-deletes} to > > @code{nil}, you might want sometimes to delete recursively directories > > without being asked for confirmation for all of them. > > > > and the sentence > > > > This is handy > > when you have marked many directories for deletion and you are very > > sure that all of them can safely be deleted. > > > > is reverse order. > > I don't think they're reversed, "this is handy" refers to the previous > sentence "delete [...] without being asked [...] for all of them". > Maybe it would be clearer if the second sentence said "For example" > instead of "This is handy". > > Also, I'd say the word "recursively" *is* reversed with one of the words > around it, it should be either "recursively delete directories" or > "delete directories recursively". 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