From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 11:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.152638277119236 (code B ref -1); Tue, 15 May 2018 11:13:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2018 11:12:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsw-00050B-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsv-0004zz-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXso-000302-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_MANY_HDRS_LCASE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXso-0002zx-9o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43527) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsm-0003XA-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsi-0002yc-Cp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:40 -0400 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.3]:28382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsi-0002wf-1L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 07:12:36 -0400 Received: from savesent-daemon.mx-all.isti.cnr.it by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) id <01QSJ9OP4FXSADCEDZ@mx-all.isti.cnr.it> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 13:12:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) with ESMTPSA id <01QSJ9OMPK1SAC5VIZ@mx-all.isti.cnr.it> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 13:12:24 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fIXsW-0002ib-VB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 13:12:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 13:12:24 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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In GNU Emacs 25.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2018-02-19, modified by Debian built on x86-ubc-01 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-gsettings 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fdebug-prefix-map=/build/emacs25-oNxPKC/emacs25-25.2+1=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' Configured features: XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: it_IT.UTF-8 value of $LC_CTYPE: it_IT.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Help Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t epa-global-mail-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t openwith-mode: t xterm-mouse-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: Mark set Note: file is write protected uncompressing vc.el.gz...done Note: file is write protected Mark saved where search started Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help. 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(vector-slots 8 2096655 151137) (floats 8 1019 717) (intervals 56 37389 4092) (buffers 976 152)) From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 12:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= , 31460@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.1526387030648 (code B ref 31460); Tue, 15 May 2018 12:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2018 12:23:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35140 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIYzd-0000AO-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 08:23:50 -0400 Received: from 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k51-v6sm116667eda.35.2018.05.15.05.23.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 May 2018 05:23:41 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 15:23:39 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 5/15/18 2:12 PM, Francesco Potortì wrote: > vc-dired Do you mean vc-dir? > on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only > shows unregistered files. Or changed, deleted, etc. > Files that are up-to-date are hidden and > apparently there is no command to unhide them (they should be shown by > default, in fact). We don't show the up-to-date files, unless they have been recently edited. In any decent-sized project, they will be too many of them to reasonably display. From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 12:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dmitry Gutov Cc: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.15263885952969 (code B ref 31460); Tue, 15 May 2018 12:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2018 12:49:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIZOs-0000lp-UE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 08:49:55 -0400 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.3]:44829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fIZOq-0000le-2a for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 08:49:53 -0400 Received: from savesent-daemon.mx-all.isti.cnr.it by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) id <01QSJD37AKDSADCEDZ@mx-all.isti.cnr.it> for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:49:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) with ESMTPSA id <01QSJD34D438AFUNOR@mx-all.isti.cnr.it>; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:49:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fIZOa-0005pK-En; Tue, 15 May 2018 14:49:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 14:49:36 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-reply-to: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 References: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> vc-dired > >Do you mean vc-dir? Yes, sure, sorry. >> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >> shows unregistered files. > >Or changed, deleted, etc. Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have been committed. >> Files that are up-to-date are hidden and >> apparently there is no command to unhide them (they should be shown by >> default, in fact). > >We don't show the up-to-date files, unless they have been recently edited. Even if they have been recently edited, as far as I can see they are not shown any more once the changes have been committed. >In any decent-sized project, they will be too many of them to reasonably >display. Okay, but this is an argument in favor of the current default. The problem is that I don't find a command to unhide the up-to-date files, which in my case is what I usually need, and no way to change the default. I think there should be a customisable variable indicating what's hidden by default, and a command to unhide all files (for example X, or C-ux). From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 12:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.152655941520438 (code B ref 31460); Thu, 17 May 2018 12:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2018 12:16:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJHq3-0005JZ-HX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 08:16:55 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]:50763) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJHq0-0005JL-SZ for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 08:16:53 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id t11-v6so8102332wmt.0 for <31460@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 17 May 2018 05:16:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2cOlE1zZxi+cnByvmy5DTCf003rKgtAu7R0jKUU//SA=; b=nNq0gEcbTYr5IXjD7l0HyyQBqVptCxTd4jqIw/rIVVUjQ6QvsozG9tZesyWq1nIVpn VkpCiHrbcD9Ase9VHAioFAvwywui162NUEEcPiryAq8/ngeHmDRB4p5Y+AXqbgn0mSqu aj1z0kYmxxEEiTW5WoyrqrncrphzhBIIWj8YHG/aQG6AYvSsJM4BNapmkhxe/ynhj7ef A86squXXeBMSm4A+5ANHfIX0iUhaE5m4xxHvRPINukaXs/0hjPVMbAuZk0l3Wg85wFAE kMwbSuKw2bOKZ4tgMfq5T76T0c/7KzGYwq6ZESX2tC0jmMdqMFXgIqzNdF0lhvsHa8NJ Yn2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2cOlE1zZxi+cnByvmy5DTCf003rKgtAu7R0jKUU//SA=; b=q9DkoONJIkBHwbhBDyXLxHHIbezuUKZYk/YflMKSJMoJsqPPM8EYJN8jwaOnkEJDJF NXRQDV2nuEHLzOd0laV8MFLtnr/K+ff9eqSQS8ipw75OIS5Im5k7LtXPgM9o+CoHfowd 8pWBIC4nAbC1GALyezSFpY21a8WCCIrjzom0IHfHexbxkXoYLTmIx7XBGUmrWcIRM0qI wEFcXQCrsy6t9vEDo8hcFlJjLytgQdP45sVwpCgQUhfMtj0uskwrEACJwr3S4c8UQGPH OgJJ4ZaPPZlF65MfqY3zENOXadhORe52tHAgTSpIc0Nvxe33VMDPvnBErN53PBoJ6y/n DLIg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdbAwGVdpAHwpF+4G6k6Sk3w4q296Ga/xyeSHOQkrF8VU57KS15 t2UkZWMB1DaTUo4L5CyawPQy15zi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZowsvg8i57sgZjPeiIMPkU8KEMUNxY5IADdcRMTRfiGcuySygmrFB4wPxA9brQaTevSNo9MFw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f52:: with SMTP id 79-v6mr1726778wmp.24.1526559406734; Thu, 17 May 2018 05:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.200] ([212.50.99.193]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x17-v6sm11849318wmd.46.2018.05.17.05.16.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 May 2018 05:16:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 15:16:43 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 5/15/18 3:49 PM, Francesco Potortì wrote: >>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>> shows unregistered files. >> >> Or changed, deleted, etc. > > Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have been committed. Committed when? And how? >>> Files that are up-to-date are hidden and >>> apparently there is no command to unhide them (they should be shown by >>> default, in fact). >> >> We don't show the up-to-date files, unless they have been recently edited. > > Even if they have been recently edited, as far as I can see they are not > shown any more once the changes have been committed. That might be a peculiarity of the SVN backend. Hopefully someone will investigate. When I commit changes in a Git repo (inside Emacs), the recently-edited files stay in the buffer. > Okay, but this is an argument in favor of the current default. The > problem is that I don't find a command to unhide the up-to-date files, > which in my case is what I usually need, and no way to change the > default. > > I think there should be a customisable variable indicating what's hidden > by default, and a command to unhide all files (for example X, or C-ux). Ehh, keeping a history of the file hiding? That could work, but not if the problem is in a different place (see above). From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 12:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dmitry Gutov Cc: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.152656065722212 (code B ref 31460); Thu, 17 May 2018 12:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2018 12:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38021 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJIA5-0005mC-9H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 08:37:37 -0400 Received: from mx-all.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.3]:45440 helo=blade3.isti.cnr.it) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJIA1-0005m2-Qa for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 08:37:35 -0400 Received: from savesent-daemon.mx-all.isti.cnr.it by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) id <01QSM58QMPLCAH2T3N@mx-all.isti.cnr.it> for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 14:37:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx-all.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.7-x04 #1884) with ESMTPSA id <01QSM58NW29SAKULWQ@mx-all.isti.cnr.it>; Thu, 17 May 2018 14:37:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fJI9q-0005lU-5e; Thu, 17 May 2018 14:37:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 14:37:21 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-reply-to: Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 References: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >>>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>>> shows unregistered files. >>> >>> Or changed, deleted, etc. >> >> Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have been committed. > >Committed when? And how? I edit a file under svn. I save and I commit it with vc-next-action. Then I look at the directory with vc-dir. >>>> Files that are up-to-date are hidden and >>>> apparently there is no command to unhide them (they should be shown by >>>> default, in fact). >>> >>> We don't show the up-to-date files, unless they have been recently edited. >> >> Even if they have been recently edited, as far as I can see they are not >> shown any more once the changes have been committed. > >That might be a peculiarity of the SVN backend. Hopefully someone will >investigate. > >When I commit changes in a Git repo (inside Emacs), the recently-edited >files stay in the buffer. I remember that it did not use to work like this. I remember that vc-dir was useful to me, and it is much less useful now. >> Okay, but this is an argument in favor of the current default. The >> problem is that I don't find a command to unhide the up-to-date files, >> which in my case is what I usually need, and no way to change the >> default. >> >> I think there should be a customisable variable indicating what's hidden >> by default, and a command to unhide all files (for example X, or C-ux). > >Ehh, keeping a history of the file hiding? That could work, but not if >the problem is in a different place (see above). I'm not asking for any history. 1) Show all the files that are in a dir by default, just as 'svn ls' does, no files hidden by default 2) Provide a command to unhide, that is, to undo all hiding done by vc-dir-hide-state From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.163057012510039 (code B ref 31460); Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2021 08:08:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLhm9-0002br-BK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:08:45 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mLhm7-0002bY-Td for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 04:08:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/mtwan37rSMVsgAOafd2ZGMuuMct+BorC1aW/X5jvds=; b=Fsf2DK7EN41qTGnnCB9ujLmIC8 rMUH4YO/HAoPalRbc90/ufTmxOPl9NfwFgjfipdPq1GP4p9uw0k/NHTgF/zNUKYkSx9AFmJHrlnwX X7wZgiHIQGc1jPx66P1vJUGU/ybDlfRV07d1fSDGpJUhlUDSVIpUdqh8h5t3B09nHoVk=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mLhlx-0007Ku-5b; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:08:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:08:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: ("Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?="'s message of "Thu, 17 May 2018 14:37:21 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl5b8kn3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: >>>>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>>>> shows unregistered files. >>>> >>>> Or changed, deleted, etc. >>> >>> Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have bee [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: >>>>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>>>> shows unregistered files. >>>> >>>> Or changed, deleted, etc. >>>=20 >>> Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have been committed. >> >>Committed when? And how? > > I edit a file under svn. I save and I commit it with vc-next-action. > Then I look at the directory with vc-dir. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) This is how vc-dir is supposed to work -- it only shows files that aren't up-to-date (i.e., changed, unregistered, etc). So this is working as designed, and I'm therefore closing this bug report. 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Content preview: tags 31460 notabug close 31460 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 31460 notabug close 31460 quit From unknown Tue Jun 24 22:31:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#31460: 25.2; vc-dired in SVN hides up-to-date files Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 16:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 31460@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Received: via spool by 31460-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31460.163094561332266 (code B ref 31460); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 16:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 31460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 16:26:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNHSP-0008OM-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:26:53 -0400 Received: from plesklin7.if2.ehiweb.it ([79.98.45.17]:36419 helo=plesklin7.if1.ehiweb.it) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNHSN-0008OC-2h for 31460@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:26:51 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it (tucano.isti.cnr.it [146.48.81.102]) by plesklin7.if1.ehiweb.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17DF6104234; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 18:26:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <87lf49oek8.fsf@tucano.isti.cnr.it> From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:26:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87bl5b8kn3.fsf@gnus.org> (larsi@gnus.org) References: <1680f62e-73c8-3389-17c8-1bed904d6ebe@yandex.ru> <87bl5b8kn3.fsf@gnus.org> Organization: The GNU project X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PPP-Message-ID: <20210906162648.22677.6591@plesklin7.if1.ehiweb.it> X-PPP-Vhost: potorti.it X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: > >Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > >>>>>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>>>>> shows unregistered files. >>>>> >>>>> Or changed, deleted, etc. >>>> >>>> We [...] Content analysis details: (1.4 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [79.98.45.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS Relay HELO differs from its IP's reverse DNS X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > >Francesco Potortì writes: > >>>>>> on an svn-controlled directory which is completely updated only >>>>>> shows unregistered files. >>>>> >>>>> Or changed, deleted, etc. >>>> >>>> Well, yes, by updated I mean that all changes have been committed. >>> >>>Committed when? And how? >> >> I edit a file under svn. I save and I commit it with vc-next-action. >> Then I look at the directory with vc-dir. > >(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved >at the time.) > >This is how vc-dir is supposed to work -- it only shows files that >aren't up-to-date (i.e., changed, unregistered, etc). So this is >working as designed, and I'm therefore closing this bug report. (If I >misunderstood what you meant here, please respond to the debbugs address >and we'll reopen.) I think you understood. Only, at the time it seemd unreasonable to me that vc-dir does not show all vc-controlled files. In time, I got used to it but I still think that being able to see all files is a must, and it shluld be possible to use such a view by default. Thanks for your maintainance work