From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 11:29:29 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2018 15:29:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ZUW-000561-FO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:29:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42341) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLz-0001gK-SB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLs-0004Ev-Ul for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLs-0004Er-R7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33275) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLr-0002Bq-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLp-0004D0-Ec for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:23 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]:40330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1XLp-0004Cb-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:12:21 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so7821380itc.5 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:12:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pGnwSYg9MQtN0pYnmKAGu9kEbeHXIBzblCINdgq4H0E=; b=uZf9VYdeKombVRZnyIpuVPPSHXwzL9fru5w76gafUbtI+vnDnmc+c1XLD2e6QlGM5m EvIxobIJQXS2ZayQsq1OKkVK6z1xSJMnoVg0IiCBLVztKlxS4LaGL5qfIoGgH8orq7Hf 55/WCOvknmVpyYQmeknI/6o0NkA+2+p2JAlmpsal8wPzlPXNh/KlcNFhjLsCFg+emmJ0 TewAOozX7QHIKHRlYmzqfm6kFpcdRz2Y+FhU3BKI8PqMw5drkoa6fzq+TGD6j3XWFr/9 WM2TuR+kPDD763BsoCVfZGnQbD9gE8vRSIF5abrD5sjLCECvRMUHxEgZcND9yq+50rVJ drBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pGnwSYg9MQtN0pYnmKAGu9kEbeHXIBzblCINdgq4H0E=; b=CpxB7kSHbuF2uNDpr9HAWjnsg5dr01kOOdoIwL9GwkXDCa4NuJKYcRHQJo7Ja3vIm/ PnRI4KmTpSZk1RxxdA46XApNIlQLd6Lb5G1UK2MEP6Qg20GGIyfKrj7cMnE4UankUH2e RMNxjsC+l1g1hqLpUiJypYy7cPNW4SCSG5n34B2fxOVdQGIHoTAPe8Nv22nTnULfvHqy MzUb8InV9j3RJgV1jlLOejFPEuyjHZmhNvGXI3S5v4NZvCmt/xi2b3KxAYKueu3FGXrL VqWVi8sAftYuAYyOOFa6iy2EGu9g2YzX9wpwssoevUgG0jbFEgewm9U2NJOGC/m3NudB CRBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7GAN+CFkQ3smjUh40pGwFF3d14hU/UTKcOQfz8HO79JUpIG6rOs R4Xa41Hb7eRvi1vanxG5pZfxPu+57/o9tJP3VEMOyIv+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48B6EbKUcsxuAZFzQF7As4t5m2Kipx4An+KIhoI/ddRjwflz1RUlAIAaI0R5ky0pbGSRqH3qy23tBy0Q3j5ml8= X-Received: by 2002:a24:a14a:: with SMTP id n10-v6mr2733475iti.66.1522329140270; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:12:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.176.155 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nichtmein Name Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:12:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a31bc705688cdf15" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:29:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) --000000000000a31bc705688cdf15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steps to reproduce: 1) Launch emacs -Q 2) M-x set-input-method german-prefix 3) Type " (double quote) followed by S (capital s) Expected behavior: Emacs should insert =E1=BA=9E, that is, a capital sharp S (which is an offi= cial letter in Germany as of 2017, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%E1%BA%9E ) Actual behavior: Emacs inserts the text literally. In GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.26) of 2018-02-09 built on bisson Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/usr --sysconfdir=3D/etc --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --localstatedir=3D/var --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-xft --with-modules 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dx86-64 -mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-stro= ng -fno-plt' CPPFLAGS=3D-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dxim locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message dired format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epg epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns help-mode easymenu cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 86355 6655) (symbols 48 19767 0) (miscs 40 50 121) (strings 32 14299 4549) (string-bytes 1 407478) (vectors 16 11747) (vector-slots 8 430579 4683) (floats 8 167 83) (intervals 56 224 0) (buffers 976 19)) --000000000000a31bc705688cdf15 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steps to reproduce:
1) Launch emacs -Q
2) M-x set-input-method german-prefix
3) Type " (double quote) followed by S (capital s)

Expected behavior:
Emacs should insert =E1=BA=9E, that is, a capital sharp S (which is an offi= cial letter in Germany
as of 2017, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%E1%BA%9E )

Actual behavior:
Emacs inserts the text literally.



In GNU Emacs 25.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.26)
of 2018-02-09 built on bisson
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.1= 1906000
Configured using:
'configure --prefix=3D/usr --sysconfdir=3D/etc --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib
--localstatedir=3D/var --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-xft --with-modules
'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dx86-64 -mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector= -strong
-fno-plt' CPPFLAGS=3D-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2
LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now'

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS
NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES

Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
value of $LC_COLLATE: C
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dxim
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Making completion list...

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message dired format-spec rfc822 mml
mml-sec password-cache epg epg-config gnus-util mm-decode mm-bodies
mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail
rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns help-mode easymenu
cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date mule-util
tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
mwheel x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt
fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock
font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian
utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice
loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay
sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting
system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x
multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 86355 6655)
(symbols 48 19767 0)
(miscs 40 50 121)
(strings 32 14299 4549)
(string-bytes 1 407478)
(vectors 16 11747)
(vector-slots 8 430579 4683)
(floats 8 167 83)
(intervals 56 224 0)
(buffers 976 19))


--000000000000a31bc705688cdf15-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 12:49:00 2018 Received: (at 30988-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2018 16:49:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58912 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ajU-0006z2-Go for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:49:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46702) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ajS-0006yp-Ps for 30988-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:48:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ajJ-0004UP-Kg for 30988-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:48:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ajJ-0004UG-He; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:48:49 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3056 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ajI-00084c-Vx; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:48:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:48:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Nichtmein Name In-reply-to: (message from Nichtmein Name on Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:12:19 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#30988: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30988-done Cc: 30988-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Nichtmein Name > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:12:19 +0200 > > Steps to reproduce: > 1) Launch emacs -Q > 2) M-x set-input-method german-prefix > 3) Type " (double quote) followed by S (capital s) > > Expected behavior: > Emacs should insert ẞ, that is, a capital sharp S (which is an official letter in Germany > as of 2017, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%E1%BA%9E ) > > Actual behavior: > Emacs inserts the text literally. Thank you for your report. In general, what you can expect from an Emacs input method is shown when you type "C-h C-\ RET". As you can see, this letter was not supported by the german-prefix and german-postfix input methods. I now added it on the master branch. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 04:07:54 2018 Received: (at 30988) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2018 08:07:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1p4j-0000Un-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:07:54 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:34935) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1p4h-0000UY-H5 for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:07:51 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id r82so15613318wme.0 for <30988@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:07:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zZsp4vYKyJYTPntpIvYMYGL+m+o9MNjwuGUIG3AgOuI=; b=CY39vKTrZ3RD0WbI4X1vXDMDj7JfKFrl18CRxtkXtb/64ZoE6a7Is4uUU8Dap6IP8c IdKu9T0KssIYFKxPdDcsBOgdFyu1BXmtBM0RwWbdngNoYqDVfLzaP0QnHTs6ZSbGeBf7 bm+HGHU+0p4TBKiuzncyybAx8guPzqGW0QYRWdsQY74So8OtzRYm+lRLpVV4m5vorEtN kSGKIgfF1hnKev1GzvfrteylB4pBEy0uIxAgZg3CdrgiWD5AbN2QZM4AHWT7TkI/cZMI LnKKaNSPwrsV7xkty0QbzZJaztaU7Rp80tlOYB3DwFtCn7H+nXobXfaBia68QH2CNzw+ Xi/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zZsp4vYKyJYTPntpIvYMYGL+m+o9MNjwuGUIG3AgOuI=; b=nHkqGnA3pFAOHDRFyBBKtIdLq9MwzJVEnOW4hPVTusMGLgWNOdFPzcFsJLVQiXhPNd S7D7FZ08vMEMF5q85yTqng8hgZ/cxEcrgP7GFAaRCYq2GhuNzlKq/apSX/2m2Z1oEsCR JRMhu9lYPh+sh+efBR3fwfPvPnJtSUqdFKqXpRHivmDk4OR2fI+TTJFhDQI7m4CRc8W/ TXZMFzdxjS3OJ6uj4KB+HfZnOrtm4PPb4E62QuXZGqObuawMLhqyglELLYVO1jeDaLK9 WdLKgo5eixTv912OlFACsT/7W3d1RE8IjAlsCoUfcU3Er7Cy1K1Yce9VwEYGWj7vbpaW 0vlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FZXi/lKk2Boc/isihVeXr0wxfB5Gis0tY0y9F5/HoCIVSJKXUn im+0a2RPojoRs8kadFI7OWc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49FF34Jusz35YoxEsdTmQoAdtQyN2Be2IKr4ens9xzyAnzFx56nXZqrGLNEK8clBNcshBQ6kw== X-Received: by 10.28.85.137 with SMTP id j131mr1596892wmb.127.1522397265362; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i52sm15776983wra.82.2018.03.30.01.07.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: 30988@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#30988: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix References: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:07:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:48:34 +0300") Message-ID: <874lkyq94f.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30988 Cc: cgeek97@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > In general, what you can expect from an Emacs input method is shown > when you type "C-h C-\ RET". As you can see, this letter was not > supported by the german-prefix and german-postfix input methods. I > now added it on the master branch. Would it make sense to also add it to all the latin-* methods that currently define a mapping for =C3=9F ? Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 04:21:41 2018 Received: (at 30988) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2018 08:21:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1pI4-0000pQ-Sg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:21:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1pI3-0000pE-C0 for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:21:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1pHx-0006iN-7y for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:21:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34051) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1pHs-0006aZ-KT; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:21:28 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3894 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f1pHr-0004j9-JV; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:21:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:21:14 +0300 Message-Id: <83efk2c6th.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <874lkyq94f.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:07:44 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#30988: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix References: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> <874lkyq94f.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30988 Cc: cgeek97@gmail.com, 30988@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, cgeek97@gmail.com > Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:07:44 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > In general, what you can expect from an Emacs input method is shown > > when you type "C-h C-\ RET". As you can see, this letter was not > > supported by the german-prefix and german-postfix input methods. I > > now added it on the master branch. > > Would it make sense to also add it to all the latin-* methods that > currently define a mapping for ß ? Which ones? Sharp s is a German-only thing (AFAIK), so IMO it makes sense to add this only to input methods that specifically support the German language. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 08:12:56 2018 Received: (at 30988) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2018 12:12:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1sts-0003cI-9H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 08:12:56 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]:33378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1str-0003c5-3k for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 08:12:55 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id o23so2008411wmf.0 for <30988@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sE7cKa6cymLqkZn+yNvX37k3IRPcDSM7QPK7HmOmcoU=; b=NflhDwSJEIhiu6eBECm/l8G21shu8IH/emRR5iFh6ARZX5IWiQzqj8bUdZlxuTxpXR 7T7BjQd2kywm4McxpF1lHrEDVNnFxTaW9OsphilUH2AoJ0bHbnnxOF2B8oKDLbeNaAXB QJ/eeSxDUZ060eklqvXO61RwVXmJAzZc4RotKOyu8ghiZTauVJ/KzAzEF2Uzgt6lRS1c 69GZRO7BAlAKYbbFCvRVojrvAOaeM0HT9y3dS/mj3XcO8mN18zKROD2MsgYFKwEgUorE thpnCY45teTGKwNYReLPaXFyHmYKSQZ7YJVjmzcJPA6QjSASEyCZJHluMulxnspafwQE owUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sE7cKa6cymLqkZn+yNvX37k3IRPcDSM7QPK7HmOmcoU=; b=tCSPkDE7ROnnz3OuHXj5vH2BwuWygA0QBaIUYG+Q4V3hSbBtIVauIMJrX05ySCca2x MHM/Nkh7Bf5rcGSZXDe9KZ/iDcIrYScmn3w88sRqB2HceW97Kmd9c5bPDAEPOzN4z52c meLrrD9K8NOeJDPiIgmJ78Rs8DmaSR0nELE0Llk+Usxk2YLYq5yXeR+qSMBeFN8q0JX3 +YrJqUqeJGV2enM6W3vUFYhV6SRlw+aDuNJT3L3fWdyatAd6R2Q3YLSMnA9puFZL8L2C wtSCROwhKXnQCaMsLmASWhM8bcrsR8yBcBMgotIufwrDrGODRO9hGJxorQHmge0fPcmB 5etw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7EA+jqq5WDjBGK7teWbxSwX5fU94jf53IS2PJFyyzItoNOYVhk6 A5cFxVMXJC9WbhimWimaai+kLGC2wqo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/+KfeWnQ05kG2jQkA9L8MsPvpDvm+Yy5bj7ycWTYv5qvRiupoikxwvwHK8UKcF7EPC9b7Fpw== X-Received: by 10.28.63.212 with SMTP id m203mr2150671wma.124.1522411968892; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 05:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k18sm6486242wmd.4.2018.03.30.05.12.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 30 Mar 2018 05:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#30988: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix References: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> <874lkyq94f.fsf@gmail.com> <83efk2c6th.fsf@gnu.org> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:12:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83efk2c6th.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:21:14 +0300") Message-ID: <87sh8hpxs0.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30988 Cc: cgeek97@gmail.com, 30988@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, cgeek97@gmail.com >> Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:07:44 +0200 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > In general, what you can expect from an Emacs input method is shown >> > when you type "C-h C-\ RET". As you can see, this letter was not >> > supported by the german-prefix and german-postfix input methods. I >> > now added it on the master branch. >>=20 >> Would it make sense to also add it to all the latin-* methods that >> currently define a mapping for =C3=9F ? > > Which ones? Sharp s is a German-only thing (AFAIK), so IMO it makes > sense to add this only to input methods that specifically support the > German language. grep =C3=9F '*.el' gives: czech.el:84: ("\\s" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:88: ("\\S" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:191: ("\\s" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:195: ("\\S" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:302: ("++s" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:325: ("++S" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:381: ("++s" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:404: ("++S" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:481: ("=3DS" ?=C3=9F) czech.el:505: ("=3Ds" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:126: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:306: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:493: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:677: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:856: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-alt.el:1520: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-ltx.el:166: ("\\ss" ?=C3=9F) ;; ("{\\ss}" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:114: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:290: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:470: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:647: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:819: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:1105: ("sz" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:1878: ("-" ?=C3=9F) latin-post.el:2279: ("s/" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:122: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:374: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:563: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:670: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:896: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:1054: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) latin-pre.el:1186: ("\"s" ?=C3=9F) rfc1345.el:134: ("&ss" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:102: ("=3Ds" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:127: ("=3DS" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:199: ("[[[s" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:229: ("[[[S" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:297: ("=3Ds" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:321: ("=3DS" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:375: ("[[[s" ?=C3=9F) slovak.el:420: ("[[[S" ?=C3=9F) although the Czech and Slovak mappings all map to the lower-case version, not the upper case. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 09:15:15 2018 Received: (at 30988) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2018 13:15:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1tsB-0005AK-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:15:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1ts9-0005A6-U9 for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:15:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1trz-00078Y-UI for 30988@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:15:08 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50187) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1trz-00078U-Qv; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:15:03 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1488 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f1trz-0004sS-9F; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:15:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 16:15:00 +0300 Message-Id: <83muyp902z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-reply-to: <87sh8hpxs0.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:12:47 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#30988: 25.3; Cannot input capital sharp S using the input method german-prefix References: <83tvsyddzx.fsf@gnu.org> <874lkyq94f.fsf@gmail.com> <83efk2c6th.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh8hpxs0.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30988 Cc: cgeek97@gmail.com, 30988@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: cgeek97@gmail.com, 30988@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:12:47 +0200 > > >> Would it make sense to also add it to all the latin-* methods that > >> currently define a mapping for ß ? > > > > Which ones? Sharp s is a German-only thing (AFAIK), so IMO it makes > > sense to add this only to input methods that specifically support the > > German language. > > grep ß '*.el' gives: Thanks, I added the capital sharp s character to latin-prefix and latin-postfix input methods. The rest are either legacy (Latin-2, Latin-3, Latin-4, etc.) and/or not really relevant to the German language. RFC 1345 doesn't support the new character, and I see no signs that it wants to add it, so I don't think we should add it there. From unknown Sat Jun 14 05:29:56 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator