From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:14:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#30946 <30946@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#30946 <30946@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops Reply-To: bug#30946 <30946@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:14:58 +0000 retitle 30946 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops reassign 30946 emacs submitter 30946 Nicolas Petton severity 30946 normal tag 30946 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 26 04:43:01 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2018 08:43:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiX-0002HS-7O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:43:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiV-0002HE-LC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:43:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiP-0001wS-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:42:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiP-0001vy-Kz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:42:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39498) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiO-0006ie-AW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:42:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiL-0001ts-92 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:42:52 -0400 Received: from petton.fr ([89.234.186.68]:43476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f0NiK-0001t8-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:42:49 -0400 From: Nicolas Petton To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:42:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petton.fr; s=mail; t=1522053765; bh=vO6I5p1/wIWioCq30LTsCh+iv5UxfM2uLmdvA59ttbo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HuOAEe3K7rg3jhXl+bA61HYsxhC3jRCj/uBNS/X25szeyjrew5JvHB8hjXhx1COC0GQJ91lHq5yX87/McSOvCDVaJp8lOngf8/0M2/IF+AamjGI3mk45G1he03Wk89v+7/N3EbjEjBhiXlXxA/sq2JEDC66wIXSPIyFmEq9+jOo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) As discussed on the emacs-devel mailing list, when using tramp with multiple hops like the following: C-x C-f /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost:/etc/deluser.conf Tramp opens an empty buffer, without showing any error message. I understand now that the second hop should be "sudo:example.com:", but it felt intuitive to use localhost, and for most files on the remote host it actually worked. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 10:11:14 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2018 14:11:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58808 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1YGn-0003J2-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:11:13 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:48715) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1YGl-0003Im-G3 for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:11:12 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.46.81]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9K5G-1epyjx1bF0-00CmAr; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:11:03 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:11:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:42:43 +0200") Message-ID: <87sh8j9dl5.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2j9IxDNGDaerWasbjISLDUzNw5yUWnLKq2JBgmu11U08avAF4GZ a+YtM2vntU/NlnQ92y5MYge2DUZgb8rJExYy0uphBGWcvM7FYXqnpJdUWNYO7e1WKstU6iH vbJI6Ky0c8TodmJQ3P5aTMFJf0fbyWulsxnjhTjccW03YIwDxzHfvgNNhiBegsYYbv2so+a M90W6RndY0Kha2F8wv9jw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:u8FbBo5FLq0=:AZpe5J+QxvxSy2rr1e6pKz s6VWu0mSCOQxcZErpczAFfnwe9sVfkWfd+rkwc80jC4tVDLh0zCRClcFoqzrxVsxAMKw6nK8I qf+POGLbZB/7ecaGPeclx3UOL3fwiyAKbR2noA75NGH8ThRI8RITyjKaS32UnG7snufzwAndk E/IPu7yVAdER4bWLG0mYrRqsX1k0TLQoJ6TGPyWgg8cRh5ABoDDkzHvZ9g3FdDQy1isZ4v4Kz lydr2ggbXwHwBHc01IYdLK9kusCUnUWj+iEBBwQQikb0Uxx+vzfTkUz/ugF96SP38d2GaeQZ3 wPGiP7N/NOJU8GEanVnpwIqJSY5mVbQ38uZTyvZcDwsy4O/ksRMMqrkb7y1XS0G1qoKb2n29m ux2ZPYexduPG6dKbV0pCK5VTid2m2MzFYaRzBr6UnUucNgL+NnBfV2UELr163dqu4J9XZ54Wk VfGoTT6r8D1/K/SpQIayqZGeUf8ezcsn91AzvnO4JQzTtL568XEmXXIgH5PtYw4AKMlDrJtyL NEauE0cBy2RZO+l1miIM9swn4Jc90hS/qwqlLBloWFf37JgVFSUTumt5Y7qtj6ggcvw/A0liC Bakr2eTCH77Xi/4Uzwble3g09K9FNnwx8CeNi5IsjDoygKmUJqW4gKh6fk0EDf85zymmAdrj4 pNWYeeDZlCVSUblEYrM6rBypfEH576zsWdjKsM8izRJBE9xOzzz8n44+A1qcHQaZMTCqzg4eI jtfroO2R/TuzVS8YD64eLAadd+pjZpXKM1KC5RTIU9mLaABk4pzfiKa664AcAu4KDRPoG+byU FLUdt83lkGdimsZNTywv3lQccUbbtLDWiFvMFZR4NXDdaaT9qM= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 Cc: 30946@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Nicolas Petton writes: Hi Nicolas, > As discussed on the emacs-devel mailing list, when using tramp with > multiple hops like the following: > > C-x C-f /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost:/etc/deluser.conf > > Tramp opens an empty buffer, without showing any error message. > > I understand now that the second hop should be "sudo:example.com:", but > it felt intuitive to use localhost, and for most files on the remote > host it actually worked. I have added an additional check in Tramp for host name matches in such cases. This checks also the single hop case "/sudo:example.com:", which shall fail when "example.com" is not your local host name. There's a new test case for this, tramp-test03-file-name-host-rules. I have the feeling that this test needs too much time; maybe I'll move it to the expensive tests. Could you pls check, whether Tramp behaves now as expected? Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 03 08:02:19 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2018 12:02:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f3Kdm-0006cj-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 08:02:19 -0400 Received: from petton.fr ([89.234.186.68]:52966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f3Kdk-0006cQ-TJ; Tue, 03 Apr 2018 08:02:17 -0400 From: Nicolas Petton To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops In-Reply-To: <87sh8j9dl5.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <87sh8j9dl5.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:02:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87vad8birm.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petton.fr; s=mail; t=1522756930; bh=Y4zg58FzyQZP2VH7/jku2dyvHNGeJsWJ0RmThgT2meE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GOMT1bWE62Cwyoj8hzrS3zr1FIYOYgSqynC1srZkCe8P5lwuVVzXrVoTdhXxv8Fx5bqcjehmqpefcUWpPROBe0z8LYN+RWrRmyY1DOTfr28aLotNcQHIsZpih7CB0v8jhtaIkwq1GI3AkKWcH3fvwjg9N79GB6SQnMhzRsY5LxY= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 Cc: 30946-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 30946@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Michael Albinus writes: Hi Michael, > I have added an additional check in Tramp for host name matches in such > cases. This checks also the single hop case "/sudo:example.com:", which > shall fail when "example.com" is not your local host name. > > There's a new test case for this, tramp-test03-file-name-host-rules. I > have the feeling that this test needs too much time; maybe I'll move it > to the expensive tests. > > Could you pls check, whether Tramp behaves now as expected? It works fine (and thank you for documenting it as well). 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Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 30 16:53:07 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 21:53:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42666 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj19-00071o-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:53:07 -0500 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:49458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj16-00071Z-UV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:53:05 -0500 Received: from [150.107.172.65] (port=36149 helo=[192.168.20.103]) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj14-0000yk-WC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 10:53:03 +1300 Subject: Re: Archived problem report bug#30946 (bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops) To: control@debbugs.gnu.org References: <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> From: Phil Sainty Message-ID: <63cb1c77-da6d-c0cd-287f-4cc1747a8e86@orcon.net.nz> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 10:53:02 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GeoIP: NZ X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) unarchive 30946 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 30 17:01:50 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 22:01:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj9a-0000Ff-9O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:01:50 -0500 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:42868) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj9Y-0000De-Dx for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 17:01:49 -0500 Received: from [150.107.172.65] (port=44722 helo=[192.168.20.103]) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdj9W-0001NG-DB for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:01:47 +1300 Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops From: Phil Sainty To: 30946@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:01:46 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GeoIP: NZ X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) (resending this to just the bug address, after unarchiving) On 26/03/18 9:42 PM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > As discussed on the emacs-devel mailing list, when using tramp with > multiple hops like the following: > > C-x C-f /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost:/etc/deluser.conf > > Tramp opens an empty buffer, without showing any error message. > > I understand now that the second hop should be "sudo:example.com:", > but it felt intuitive to use localhost, and for most files on the > remote host it actually worked. I'd suspect that https://stackoverflow.com/a/16408592/324105 explains why it 'worked': > The trap here is that sudo:: does actually appear to work -- however > when you do that the HOST for the dynamic proxy entry will be the > hostname you originated from rather than the host you connected > to. This will not only look confusing (as the wrong host will be > displayed in the file paths), but it will also mean that any > subsequent attempt to use sudo:: on your localhost will instead be > proxied to the remote server! i.e. /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost was previously creating a proxy that said that when you request files as root@localhost (for *any* tramp method!) it should proxy via "/ssh:me@example.com:". The sudo method didn't actually need or care about the specified host, so that "worked" -- but the proxy you'd created was then a problem waiting to bite you. Ooohh. Michael, that actually still remains a problem in the new version. Despite the error message, the unintended proxy is still created, and hence can still break things. i.e. I try to visit: /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost I get the new error message: Host name ‘localhost’ does not match ‘^example.com$’ but I *also* get a new proxy entry: ("localhost" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") So when I then visit: /sudo:localhost: I get the error message: Host name ‘localhost’ does not match ‘^example.com$’ etc, etc... Conversely, it seems that the "::" case has been attended to so that it now transparently DWIM ? i.e. When I try /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:: I get a proxy entry of: ("example.com" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") whereas in earlier versions of Emacs I get the undesirable: ("" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") Where is my local hostname. That's excellent, and possibly also deserves a note in the NEWS? Currently it reads: *** For some connection methods, like "su" or "sudo", the host name in ad-hoc multi-hop file names must match the previous hop. We could perhaps append: If the hostname is left empty (e.g. "sudo::") then the host from the previous hop is used automatically. cheers, -Phil p.s. I find the new error slightly confusing to dismiss. It's not entirely obvious how to get back to the prompt. Not a big problem, as ideally people don't run into it at all, but I just thought I'd mention it. The error sticks around persistently until I type C-g, at which point I get a new error "Tramp: Opening connection for root@localhost using sudo...failed". That error also sticks around for a couple of seconds, which is long enough to make one suspect that it also needs to be dismissed with C-g -- which will actually exit the minibuffer entirely, meaning you can't simply edit the incorrect path to fix the problem, but must start over. (So the correct sequence is C-g and then either wait a couple of seconds, or just start typing blindly.) It would be nice if that was a bit smoother -- but again, I don't think this is a significant issue in reality, so I wouldn't worry about it unless you think it's easy to deal with. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 31 06:20:20 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2018 11:20:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdvcK-0007ZH-4L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 06:20:20 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:56311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdvcI-0007Z4-UW for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 06:20:19 -0500 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([217.70.140.229]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnfuZ-1hGXUX1fvr-00hte4; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:20:06 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:20:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Phil Sainty's message of "Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:01:46 +1300") Message-ID: <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:45cSgov7IWj5vwVbKwGtzW44SUK7xvTHPLoicjKA6A2rpX4O0TI +ZokIOKBN7owkf7BMu+LPCUOeMuTlpPDJCnX6bKxfWB9H5cI5cbQo3pB+FoLEXHSD1R5Jqp L4kL6ySETvXZmjdeAHMSqFMShADF8bVnaxeDGjCvCIb5mpIYjZamBMDm/dMUKcTKx0kdA0T vJwikTeGDWUN7njWutdUA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:iELYjYXBHsY=:fEXpuvQHuz0WTL7jjIsfVZ 9/wjeE8xjM9G6Sbg4YpdJxw6iwcKlqDdqV4TvAdZeTZbf6rpbTKPPbLVsQkdB46ZdYBWfbgu4 Ry7xfMNTV3FrFZWsoYUAZZXvj9rdo8g82475dP3H4EcRaO6QWMKy7R8rAfRkJL/6NLotWDk7e tg+aut/lu1vAbKoQLgS3Mifx074A9wgOajNhfLtAqy1c0AralXlfHTAhEFWlQ4PBi1t7QzUZl oPWJQsC5Xlp9mtd/qcs2rgjKx44Uyv0xXZ1PYaaPdactZ+RvjfsOU17OTcoww0urid18VDOLj AKB+dLg1Z0Ty+UTNdDY1Klv1KxYKIdX6Pv83VqEX7axrtpz3KiZR/1sMzoHJu08AnTBuoDDNI ybZYzPwuaOXqioARsR5bbiadJ4cob9GihiNHKuQ+p0wy24updOJRfu2v2QfQtcTaCgYiaxA/x vAqgypO5YGb+1qelH47DKMDk4vxZja2O2oKlHVI0xeXuqoczICQgtk966OLJbESBGY1SJlFqu 4Z3yHAL9hpURks5XznAfpFk6/X/26i90KPEAtberr7H3iY0BQWGrsRRqy1JmH4b5HJ4dZ9zAo BhsZc66Qw14ZBudIzooDX3vHUb7VHHBSuwv3QnHA2kBtT9C2NQwaVyZiSv9AsdYoaxXh1zW4d ZV0VcThyZowKNd1Wy5AtkMiLnoiDqqALvd0Z68XPJnFjtPytOFBeAuOU2XkFgzxoGtAMr3FF6 t3P9QJB/AH6Rl4FVOm3+Po8XDO0vs0l9u+F6OmxSBJub36QtjK4bzM1TD20enybJz/xyNMBQY lNSaebvj87pJsu7NSofwtvN+KIIqWT0yzWIVD04XMbwLLnXBlGD6jQA+D00RZpp1fFV606Oo+ p5G+1DJJbAwyZlRBPkKVHCoWx2QvcyyMYAIzgrdbF5I/Wty1xsuIfrn3Zuq6RlJbGR4lLqade 1kbiTQHLPOA== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 Cc: 30946@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Phil Sainty writes: Hi Phil, > i.e. /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost was previously creating a proxy > that said that when you request files as root@localhost (for *any* > tramp method!) it should proxy via "/ssh:me@example.com:". The sudo > method didn't actually need or care about the specified host, so that > "worked" -- but the proxy you'd created was then a problem waiting to > bite you. > > Ooohh. > > Michael, that actually still remains a problem in the new version. > > Despite the error message, the unintended proxy is still created, > and hence can still break things. > > i.e. I try to visit: > > /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:localhost > > I get the new error message: > > Host name =E2=80=98localhost=E2=80=99 does not match =E2=80=98^example.co= m$=E2=80=99 > > but I *also* get a new proxy entry: > > ("localhost" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") > > So when I then visit: > > /sudo:localhost: > > I get the error message: > > Host name =E2=80=98localhost=E2=80=99 does not match =E2=80=98^example.co= m$=E2=80=99 > > etc, etc... Ad-hoc proxy definitions are removed by "M-x tramp-cleanup-all-connections". I've added a respective hint to the manual. > Conversely, it seems that the "::" case has been attended to so that > it now transparently DWIM ? > > i.e. When I try /ssh:me@example.com|sudo:: I get a proxy entry of: > ("example.com" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") Yes. This was already documented in the Tramp manual. > whereas in earlier versions of Emacs I get the undesirable: > ("" "root" "/ssh:me@example.com:") > Where is my local hostname. > > That's excellent, and possibly also deserves a note in the NEWS? The previous behaviour was a bug. I've corrected it. Bugs don't need to be mentioned in etc/NEWS. I've extended the NEWS entry to describe the new default host name behavior. > cheers, > -Phil > > p.s. I find the new error slightly confusing to dismiss. It's not > entirely obvious how to get back to the prompt. Not a big problem, > as ideally people don't run into it at all, but I just thought I'd > mention it. > > The error sticks around persistently until I type C-g, at which point > I get a new error "Tramp: Opening connection for root@localhost using > sudo...failed". That error also sticks around for a couple of seconds, > which is long enough to make one suspect that it also needs to be > dismissed with C-g -- which will actually exit the minibuffer entirely, > meaning you can't simply edit the incorrect path to fix the problem, > but must start over. > > (So the correct sequence is C-g and then either wait a couple of > seconds, or just start typing blindly.) > > It would be nice if that was a bit smoother -- but again, I don't > think this is a significant issue in reality, so I wouldn't worry > about it unless you think it's easy to deal with. See above. Some "C-g" in a raw (let's say, two or three times) plus "M-x tramp-cleanup-all-connections" shall be sufficient. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 31 07:41:01 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2018 12:41:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42854 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdwsN-00034l-Io for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:41:01 -0500 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:57476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdwsL-00034b-4T for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 07:40:58 -0500 Received: from [150.107.172.17] (port=36841 helo=[192.168.20.103]) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdwsI-0005wS-U2; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 01:40:55 +1300 Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops To: Michael Albinus References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> From: Phil Sainty Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 01:40:54 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GeoIP: NZ X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 Cc: 30946@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Ad-hoc proxy definitions are removed by > "M-x tramp-cleanup-all-connections". > I've added a respective hint to the manual. Right; but given that there is now some form of error detection in the case when a clearly-incorrect hostname is given for the sudo/su methods, would it not be very sensible to also ensure that a proxy matching the incorrect hostname is not added? As it is, the error is 'caught' but the unwanted behaviour silently happens anyway, which seems bad to me; especially when any subsequent use of that proxy is likely to be pretty confounding. In the worst case someone can end up unwittingly connecting to a different machine than the one they intended, at which point they could inadvertently cause themselves real problems. Sure, it's ultimately their mistake; but when that mistake was actually detected at the outset, it seems a shame not to deal with it then. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 31 09:13:32 2018 Received: (at 30946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2018 14:13:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdyJw-0005FU-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:13:32 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:60075) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdyJu-0005FH-AK for 30946@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:13:30 -0500 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([217.70.140.229]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQeET-1glzZQ0Vzh-00TyOa; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 15:13:17 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 15:13:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87bm51bx8k.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gGLK7hqRwXPdfl3uPYdgBIekzCugQbDipP1gFFCtvuE2mX2bswj zXLCNJeKaTskRqiJqGYUT1aaA8mDoVvF3qZKbCZtLxxJpnYJavnd9WObdb063qJfKeT1o8h EWmtds3ltE17aStIhiR0WY2wusagbTuYkJGSn9WfrkKX3sGnghW7DunhpvcFcpcLOShDwRl DXqsDmMmQLutM3sMBCmTw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:urB4XjX+sH4=:Skrrx8F2bI5mVpAmB15aVJ cxpabygzEXlDS5w39fus+ySpxzHI8BTy7f3XAXNZYPgCNElqAkyGKTUs4ulRThc8xy3omEmeh ViZXt5jnKuxVrF3Y3fPnNbGM3h60BVvS1RbmsGu89GLE5RA150bJzHrTXR6Hc/wfy5xkh32o9 bpTYVm5X6p2HI9c6mpxfnVfsS5rMohhf2qFiHUjX+WKNUxomVtsuMziDKhpY15zlxcc/DnIVB U9dYQlRvh2f1UvbkE1deh4uUVbd+NaQBO/VvKWU5xWj9tD1A639zT8HcGvK2gq5XktraQOBni sWdaUyoSpt5IXgZgptmtT1sGzWn9kSKU8QWKYL1NDuAm4p+2DAucQbeUUJOH9jt7P86Mf3vii 45zlBasV7yD5oneDNHCB34tJ78EHiAtNxK8oy7SEHG1o7V4P1QQSOyfmAmRjhPl7ukYRv3Gvt AJB7CzpdFmBWczp9xzNPmkGosqCdfQVXdmPkpf6D93scfR3uOSuvvjNlr8a7VKrWKp5hX/40P OIO1AVaYbcV2rCYpo3K4NYx/PEn6ONLOI2FZVA3EC2z6TCXNbgB5PHpVisaLv1nZG37bI3ms2 8v9+LsZZRLDy7eBrYw4LwPi4wQt3t1APUoRYE9/AlAC0bUA11cbLyUwF+9aW/ZegX/2lV89qi y8Q8AphYhpZ0Hw8g0yyGpPvti8zPjCMIySl07lXqyl/NYiYEDe+dez9JYT2aa139csQR0V3Ih MymrIaHsDcd3VJpdemnMe+8LpmNXapp/8UslqHsU9xGeuDU1fviGYb1uRmQR4mrNHRZrXB8Dk Zf8WfRQ13OC2MZsld4VfBY8lOH1bv9B3vpTL4om4+cAvC4WVkSOakLi9FuztQy5TzlZzIJ2Ci OSmGnR8yVTcGI/vgD/mDRUSqX8sEmehVgUAPwuuut/VG5S7dVzPVDU7edgUUy1jX4PuwcGQ1e pjmIz+LFGVg== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946 Cc: 30946@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Phil Sainty writes: Hi Phil, >> Ad-hoc proxy definitions are removed by >> "M-x tramp-cleanup-all-connections". >> I've added a respective hint to the manual. > > Right; but given that there is now some form of error detection in the > case when a clearly-incorrect hostname is given for the sudo/su methods, > would it not be very sensible to also ensure that a proxy matching the > incorrect hostname is not added? I've pushed a fix for this to the master branch; could you pls check? > -Phil Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 31 16:48:37 2018 Received: (at 30946-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2018 21:48:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ge5QK-0001aK-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:48:36 -0500 Received: from smtp-1.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.34]:54831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ge5QH-0001aB-U7 for 30946-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:48:34 -0500 Received: from [150.107.172.17] (port=23534 helo=[192.168.20.103]) by smtp-1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ge5QE-0001pr-DX; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 10:48:31 +1300 Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops To: Michael Albinus References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> <87bm51bx8k.fsf@gmx.de> From: Phil Sainty Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 10:48:29 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87bm51bx8k.fsf@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GeoIP: NZ X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946-done Cc: 30946-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi Michael, On 1/01/19 3:13 AM, Michael Albinus wrote: > I've pushed a fix for this to the master branch; could you pls check? Yes, the tramp master branch works nicely! http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/tramp.git/commit/?id=1dbd930da8 does make me wonder whether it would be good for tramp-user-error to check whether saved-tdpa is bound, and handle the rollback itself, so the code which sets the error doesn't need to? I assume there are other error cases where the rollback doesn't happen and doesn't *need* to happen; but if it's harmless to do so (which I have no idea about), then "roll back any new proxies in the face of an error" might well be a sane behaviour, and might possibly prevent undesirable proxies being added in other situations (speculating). I'm re-closing this bug in any case. Thank you for fixing this. -Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 01 06:54:29 2019 Received: (at 30946-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2019 11:54:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1geIcv-0007KM-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:54:29 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:53403) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1geIcs-0007K4-UN for 30946-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 06:54:28 -0500 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([217.70.140.229]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LmOLO-1hD5PQ1A1a-00Zzpt; Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:54:14 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Phil Sainty Subject: Re: bug#30946: 26.0.90; TRAMP cannot access some files when using hops References: <87o9jbfcsc.fsf@petton.fr> <6e181a50-452c-0e8b-ae5a-0746f64a6dfb@orcon.net.nz> <877efqdjtn.fsf@gmx.de> <87bm51bx8k.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:54:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Phil Sainty's message of "Tue, 1 Jan 2019 10:48:29 +1300") Message-ID: <87sgyc3863.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:br6GY48qUNDqw3kfRYjTXiiEYaH3iO0Sg84QsggWSBZTgQ8FpEQ 1A9NTho6tw+BG5YyEd0UHseUePeXRiT8ZNnwXHoSEhz5ZWae3yGfEGNihYmQ234T0VXu3Ob 82ccYDP8+i7CS+IeaeRAnsOcOP51ZXXmbUPE/HbH4GpcLbc61ZDXI5LlcG7wiwZjf38QeQ1 0EGoUQ8s6tuTMxL3abfUw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:OSnuQjXa1Qs=:M6eRMx+7KJQC52OAl0exJm KVj95apkxkRJTSxVrzabSyh8W/x6pB4xl0CAATqmIa8rvzECIs4OZkTJUk5ho/pLPc+RZKxoE e1p3MXw0C/DkRK6gotbttBaTW8f6Ls1czeSTKSyCrWEk/Q/yhQZE7VJlfjHcDSV6asUs3hlrW 1ph6t38nvuLsmv8xqvpSOHrcLq9PoaJ3jidajWyamrGJxQysNg88+VgunZ5k4Me5ZxHeMtvF1 S+3zzM070DImYQUd8PLInfMPgu4UTdROH+0n90G6ZCk/KnRYCW1DMd+U5PmudpjFUH5jlHX4v qEwClOpzOKF/htdgHQpMjUcHRnPR5mJQ4iQtlSVWy1v6EQ7i2Lb8gJt5GFJ72QXsBtQsi1iXB OcqmVZkCXaWF22740LzBX53rzFeXLVO/qgeC3KhiCC/CidLTBXbKJlcqlQb4P/k66xgQb7i4n 915fEu/xupr6U8zAKUGYPTdcMwwXX7s5iNWOLIqbv6PpRlQhg47ThH2N3a+a02U0gA628etT5 +aH1uP/h94I+WJeTTKAsHi6O4jLxHWAHP+5Rdb74EyBZ+eMUiIQ44dL44FleiaXLUBOQMdgJm Wr3X5SsHtWx9L29xYpS/8YyB7YCxsEUTy7VPD82DbUtc9iszcUhlHhy7Y1WN7npne6QG/VYJA 6BgESqJwnIccnSTbIDqnOo44/Hn0TVKkCJhT3PLfHv4545Y7PozXXl4pUKV4arCLp9BpW7AI7 fNvv/fqusGIrt7NUanJy8IAJiz03zphD9HW3Y1EhO0I3KtQ+T65yzNKSCDyl52XAL4cKRkpjf wQ/Xa2LQMb0S6qmudTi6Ct3bB8BmpYum75pUfkK6ph5Dev7YAj1ZPG+JqEb51v8UoiwtzoTLu Cwh0G0OS803LSbWuYGHyS99zbUa2TJRt+t/fHz6ZYax+8VVTQnnSUU3VLUV/ZBLyzRKFsmU6u tOfGj5s1Mbw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30946-done Cc: 30946-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Phil Sainty writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Phil, > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/tramp.git/commit/?id=1dbd930da8 does > make me wonder whether it would be good for tramp-user-error to check > whether saved-tdpa is bound, and handle the rollback itself, so the > code which sets the error doesn't need to? `tramp-user-error' is Tramp's counterpart to `user-error'. No rollback, or something else. > -Phil Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:14:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator